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tontoz
05-21-2021, 09:25 AM
Curry haters on suicide watch :oldlol:

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https://www.nba.com/news/finalists-announced-for-2020-21-nba-awards

And1AllDay
05-21-2021, 09:31 AM
good on him but dont worry hes not winning :oldlol:

tontoz
05-21-2021, 09:39 AM
Jokic looks like a lock to win. Still props to Curry on a great season and play in game vs the Lakers.

Axe
05-21-2021, 11:16 AM
good on him but dont worry hes not winning :oldlol:
Lol

Axe
05-21-2021, 11:18 AM
At least the candidates from the teams that have won over 45 games this season are much more convincing to garner the said award. :rolleyes:

GOBB
05-21-2021, 03:04 PM
Embiid finishing second is a shocker (said no one ever). Most likely will be first team all nba as well.

hold this L
05-21-2021, 03:05 PM
good on him but dont worry hes not winning :oldlol:

Honestly Joker deserves it. I wouldn't complain if Chef won it, but Joker winning should have no one in their feelings.

GOBB
05-21-2021, 03:07 PM
Curry winning it wouldn’t have you complain? Yikes.

tontoz
05-21-2021, 03:10 PM
Yeah i cant see Curry winning. Finishing 3rd is good for him realistically.

GOBB
05-21-2021, 03:23 PM
Yeah i cant see Curry winning. Finishing 3rd is good for him realistically.

That’s still high all things considered. Just on the basis there have been players in Curry shoes who did similar things and were never rewarded for top 3.

tontoz
05-21-2021, 03:30 PM
That’s still high all things considered. Just on the basis there have been players in Curry shoes who did similar things and were never rewarded for top 3.

He won a scoring title with elite scoring efficiency and is ranked first in RPM.

Only 3 times in history has a player averaged over 30 ppg with a TS over 65%. This is the 2nd time Curry did it. He was really good.

A lot of the other top players missed a lot of games which hurt their case.

GOBB
05-21-2021, 03:32 PM
He won a scoring title with elite scoring efficiency and is ranked first in RPM.

Only 3 times in history has a player averaged over 30 ppg with a TS over 65%. This is the 2nd time Curry did it. He was really good.

A lot of the other top players missed a lot of games which hurt their case.

I’m talking about in the past. Where guys have balled out on lesser teams taking them to the playoffs. And were never considered top 3 for it like Curry has. Heck Suns 2nd best record in the NBA.how is Curry over Paul given the same “he carried them” logic that’s being used in Curry defense?

tontoz
05-21-2021, 03:42 PM
I’m talking about in the past. Where guys have balled out on lesser teams taking them to the playoffs. And were never considered top 3 for it like Curry has. Heck Suns 2nd best record in the NBA.how is Curry over Paul given the same “he carried them” logic that’s being used in Curry defense?

The Suns were undefeated in the bubble without CP3 and just missed the playoffs by a game i think. People are giving Paul too much credit for their success. Pretty sure they were the healthiest team in the league this year. A lot of teams got crushed by injuries or covid.

Plus the Suns had injury issues last season. Both of their centers missed half the season. And they added Crowder this year who was in the Finals with Miami last year. But let's just give Paul all the credit.

Xiao Yao You
05-21-2021, 03:46 PM
The Suns were undefeated in the bubble without CP3 and just missed the playoffs by a game i think. People are giving Paul too much credit for their success. Pretty sure they were the healthiest team in the league this year. A lot of teams got crushed by injuries or covid.

Plus the Suns had injury issues last season. Both of their centers missed half the season. And they added Crowder this year who was in the Finals with Miami last year. But let's just give Paul all the credit.

Suns were the worst team in the west going into the bubble. CP3 deserves plenty of credit for a team that has done nothing besides a run in the bubble

tontoz
05-21-2021, 03:54 PM
Suns were the worst team in the west going into the bubble. CP3 deserves plenty of credit for a team that has done nothing besides a run in the bubble

They finished tied for 9th last year one game behind 8th. Ayton/Baynes missed a combined 66 games last season.

All of the teams in the bubble were either playoff teams or potential playoff teams and the Suns went 8-0.

Xiao Yao You
05-21-2021, 03:56 PM
They finished tied for 9th last year one game behind 8th. Ayton/Baynes missed a combined 66 games last season.

All of the teams in the bubble were either playoff teams or potential playoff teams and the Suns went 8-0.

everyone has injuries. Not everyone has guys on roids. 26-39 going into the bubble. Shouldn't have even been there

GOBB
05-21-2021, 04:03 PM
The Suns were undefeated in the bubble without CP3 and just missed the playoffs by a game i think. People are giving Paul too much credit for their success. Pretty sure they were the healthiest team in the league this year. A lot of teams got crushed by injuries or covid.

Plus the Suns had injury issues last season. Both of their centers missed half the season. And they added Crowder this year who was in the Finals with Miami last year. But let's just give Paul all the credit.

Man stop. When was the last time the Suns had the second best record in all of the NBA? Sure Suns weren’t a bad team minus Paul. They would probably be in the play in tournament trying to win a seeding. No lock to win it either. With Paul? He’s been huge in their growth and development. He’s a second coach on the court. He’s not going to take shots from guys who need them. He’s going to set you up. He’s going to defend. He’s going to get buckets if the situation calls for it. Heck vs Sixers we locked up Booker and Paul killed us hitting some unbelievable shots. How is what Paul did for Suns not as good as what Curry has done for the Warriors?

tontoz
05-21-2021, 04:04 PM
everyone has injuries. Not everyone has guys on roids. 26-39 going into the bubble. Shouldn't have even been there

They were there and they went 8-0.

Every team has injuries but i don't think you will find any team in the league that had a few as the Suns this season. Good health is a big reason for their success. They had very few injuries or covid absences.

Xiao Yao You
05-21-2021, 04:07 PM
They were there and they went 8-0.

Every team has injuries but i don't think you will find any team in the league that had a few as the Suns this season. Good health is a big reason for their success. They had very few injuries or covid absences.

the bubble wasn't the same though. Without Paul they likely aren't even in playin

tontoz
05-21-2021, 04:08 PM
Man stop. When was the last time the Suns had the second best record in all of the NBA? Sure Suns weren’t a bad team minus Paul. They would probably be in the play in tournament trying to win a seeding. No lock to win it either. With Paul? He’s been huge in their growth and development. He’s a second coach on the court. He’s not going to take shots from guys who need them. He’s going to set you up. He’s going to defend. He’s going to get buckets if the situation calls for it. Heck vs Sixers we locked up Booker and Paul killed us hitting some unbelievable shots. How is what Paul did for Suns not as good as what Curry has done for the Warriors?


Like i said they were undefeated in the bubble without Paul.

Just look at the injuries/covid absences that other teams have had to deal with this year. The Suns haven't had to deal with that. Without their good health nobody would even consider Paul in the MVP conversation.

HBK_Kliq_2
05-21-2021, 04:08 PM
The MVP voting is a joke. How the hell is Embiid a finalist when he only played 51 games. Also not putting Lillard as a finalist last year because he was an 8th seed but putting Curry on there this season even though Draymond is clearly a better player then anybody that Lillard had.

MVP is a disgrace. The only one that counts is finals MVP because they just watched 6-7 games and give their honest opinion on it, while 72\82 games just becomes a stupid narrative and popularity contest.

tontoz
05-21-2021, 04:10 PM
the bubble wasn't the same though. Without Paul they likely aren't even in playin

That is idiotic. They were 1 game out of the playoffs last year with injury problems. This year they were the healthiest team in the league and added Crowder but somehow they would miss the playoffs but somehow they would miss the playoffs without Paul?

GTFO

tontoz
05-21-2021, 04:11 PM
The MVP voting is a joke. How the hell is Embiid a finalist when he only played 51 games. Also not putting Lillard as a finalist last year because he was an 8th seed but putting Curry on there this season even though Draymond is clearly a better player then anybody that Lillard had.

MVP is a disgrace. The only one that counts is finals MVP because they just watched 6-7 games and give their honest opinion on it, while 72\82 games just becomes a stupid narrative and popularity contest.


:roll:


You are just mad because your boy didn't make the finalists. Cry me a river.

tpols
05-21-2021, 04:11 PM
Yup.

Good list. Easy top 3 MVP candidates.

HBK_Kliq_2
05-21-2021, 04:12 PM
:roll:


You are just mad because your boy didn't make the finalists. Cry me a river.

Makes me feel pretty good though because now nobody can ever make the "load management" argument against Kawhi anymore. You just nominated Embiid as a top 3 finalist who played 51 games.

Xiao Yao You
05-21-2021, 04:13 PM
That is idiotic. They were 1 game out of the playoffs last year with injury problems. This year they were the healthiest team in the league and added Crowder but somehow they would miss the playoffs but somehow they would miss the playoffs without Paul?

GTFO

They were 26-39 when they were out of the bubble. They had proven nothing outside the bubble

tontoz
05-21-2021, 04:15 PM
Makes me feel pretty good though because now nobody can ever make the "load management" argument against Kawhi anymore. You just nominated Embiid as a top 3 finalist who played 51 games.


Embiid wasn't doing load management. He was actually injured and missed some games due to covid. He wasn't sitting out every 6-8 games just because he was tired.

Xiao Yao You
05-21-2021, 04:16 PM
Makes me feel pretty good though because now nobody can ever make the "load management" argument against Kawhi anymore. You just nominated Embiid as a top 3 finalist who played 51 games.

51 games is probably a career high!

ShawkFactory
05-21-2021, 04:17 PM
Embiid wasn't doing load management. He was actually injured and missed some games due to covid. He wasn't sitting out every 6-8 games just because he was tired.

And he was more dominant than Kawhi.

tpols
05-21-2021, 04:18 PM
The MVP voting is a joke. How the hell is Embiid a finalist when he only played 51 games. Also not putting Lillard as a finalist last year because he was an 8th seed but putting Curry on there this season even though Draymond is clearly a better player then anybody that Lillard had.

MVP is a disgrace. The only one that counts is finals MVP because they just watched 6-7 games and give their honest opinion on it, while 72\82 games just becomes a stupid narrative and popularity contest.

Don't be mad your boy sits out every regular season so he will never win an MVP.

Its borderline cheating that Kawhi gets to play on stacked teams every year that allow him to rest all year long and be fresh as a daisy for the playoffs.

And then still lose to a chubby white dude.

:yaohappy:

HBK_Kliq_2
05-21-2021, 04:20 PM
Embiid wasn't doing load management. He was actually injured and missed some games due to covid. He wasn't sitting out every 6-8 games just because he was tired.


Don't be mad your boy sits out every regular season so he will never win an MVP. its borderline cheating that he gets to play on stacked teams every year that allow him to rest all year long and be fresh as a daisy for the playoffs.

And then still lose to a chubby white dude.

:Yao:

It doesn't matter if it's load management or not, still only played 51 games.

That was bubble basketball and Jokic was Murray's sidekick anyways, there's 4 or 5 different stats that prove that.

Kawhi still has the goat finals MVPS when he stopped two different 3peats. Meanwhile, Curry didn't even get 1 finals MVP vote during the 2015 finals. You know that right? All the votes went to Iggy or Lebron, not even 1 person voted for Curry as finals MVP In 2015 finals hahahaha

HBK_Kliq_2
05-21-2021, 04:23 PM
51 games is probably a career high!

I guess that 1 more game was MVP worthy over Kawhi. I guess they feel sorry for Embiid since Kawhi made him cry like a baby.

hold this L
05-21-2021, 04:24 PM
Curry winning it wouldn’t have you complain? Yikes.
What can I say, I'm biased so **** it

hold this L
05-21-2021, 04:26 PM
The MVP voting is a joke. How the hell is Embiid a finalist when he only played 51 games. Also not putting Lillard as a finalist last year because he was an 8th seed but putting Curry on there this season even though Draymond is clearly a better player then anybody that Lillard had.

MVP is a disgrace. The only one that counts is finals MVP because they just watched 6-7 games and give their honest opinion on it, while 72\82 games just becomes a stupid narrative and popularity contest.

https://media0.giphy.com/media/SJYl9iCIlqT5mJpDJC/giphy.gif?cid=790b76112eb37b04da18c81f3663522af61b 86d77c94671c&rid=giphy.gif&ct=g

HBK_Kliq_2
05-21-2021, 04:26 PM
https://youtu.be/pVQX2udB5Os

tontoz
05-21-2021, 04:26 PM
It doesn't matter if it's load management or not, still only played 51 games.

That was bubble basketball and Jokic was Murray's sidekick anyways, there's 4 or 5 different stats that prove that.

Kawhi still has the goat finals MVPS when he stopped two different 3peats. Meanwhile, Curry didn't even get 1 finals MVP vote during the 2015 finals. You know that right? All the votes went to Iggy or Lebron, not even 1 person voted for Curry as finals MVP In 2015 finals hahahaha


What do the 2015 Finals have to do with this years MVP?

:wtf:

tpols
05-21-2021, 04:28 PM
MVPs are worth way more than FMVPs. A guy like Cedric Maxwell or Chauncey Billups or Iggy or Joe Dumars or Tony Parker etc. the list goes on and on... were never capable of MVP impact. Much less UMVP impact like Curry had. GOAT shit.

FMVP only requires one guy to get hot for one series. That's why a 14 ppg role player Kawhi could win it. He can't win an MVP though because he refuses to play a whole season, and uses team hopping to already established winning teams in order to rest all year. That puts an * on him since other superstars don't have that luxury in most cases. Its like starting a race half way through when everybody else had to tire themselves out already. Cheating basically.

HBK_Kliq_2
05-21-2021, 04:28 PM
https://media0.giphy.com/media/SJYl9iCIlqT5mJpDJC/giphy.gif?cid=790b76112eb37b04da18c81f3663522af61b 86d77c94671c&rid=giphy.gif&ct=g

Where's yours at curry??? 0\5 you bitch hahahaha


https://youtu.be/d3UIgFm2FuU


https://youtu.be/AZaUp4bugbk

hold this L
05-21-2021, 04:30 PM
Babyboi melting down over nominations, that's a new one :lol

HBK_Kliq_2
05-21-2021, 04:30 PM
What do the 2015 Finals have to do with this years MVP?

:wtf:

finals MVP matters more because it's to win the championship and it's not a popularity contest by a bunch of media members.

HBK_Kliq_2
05-21-2021, 04:30 PM
MVPs are worth way more than FMVPs. A guy like Cedric Maxwell or Chauncey Billups or Iggy or Joe Dumars or Tony Parker etc. the list goes on and on... were never capable of MVP impact. Much less UMVP impact like Curry had. GOAT shit.

FMVP only requires one guy to get hot for one series. That's why a 14 ppg role player Kawhi could win it. He can't win an MVP though because he refuses to play a whole season, and uses team hopping to already established winning teams in order to rest all year. That puts an * on him since other superstars don't have that luxury in most cases. Its like starting a race half way through when everybody else had to tire themselves out already. Cheating basically.

guys like derrick rose and allen iverson have won MVP and are not even top 100 players alltime.

HBK_Kliq_2
05-21-2021, 04:31 PM
Babyboi melting down over nominations, that's a new one :lol

Just asking you a question, where is your finals MVPS when you went to 5 of them? You should have at least 3 if you were a real top 25 player ever.

tontoz
05-21-2021, 04:32 PM
finals MVP matters more because it's to win the championship and it's not a popularity contest by a bunch of media members.

Who do you think is voting for Finals MVP?

:roll:

GOBB
05-21-2021, 04:33 PM
Like i said they were undefeated in the bubble without Paul.

Just look at the injuries/covid absences that other teams have had to deal with this year. The Suns haven't had to deal with that. Without their good health nobody would even consider Paul in the MVP conversation.

You’re tripping. What about Giannis? Dame?

tpols
05-21-2021, 04:35 PM
guys like derrick rose and allen iverson have won MVP and are not even top 100 players alltime.

Still better than 14 ppg Iggy or Kawhi. :lol

Its simply way easier to win FMVP. Literal role players can win it.

HBK_Kliq_2
05-21-2021, 04:35 PM
Who do you think is voting for Finals MVP?

:roll:

When it's one series though, you can't bullshit yourself because you just watched it.

A full season, they like to pick favorites and go with their narrative.

Curry's only real championship was 2015 and he got 0 finals MVP votes, that's his legacy.

hold this L
05-21-2021, 04:36 PM
Just asking you a question, where is your finals MVPS when you went to 5 of them? You should have at least 3 if you were a real top 25 player ever.
What do you mean mine? I didn't go to them, I'm just a fan. They went to Iggy and KD, Warrior players. Babyboi melting since he was so sure Kwitter was going to be an MVP this year. Unfortunately you haven't gotten the memo that they don't let soft betas who don't feel like playing through the season get the MVP. That's the Kwitter is never winning it.

Yikes.

GOBB
05-21-2021, 04:36 PM
51 games is probably a career high!

Don’t be mad he doubled Rudy in scoring avg. Yiiiiikes


I know I know I know I know his hard setting screens make up for it!

HBK_Kliq_2
05-21-2021, 04:37 PM
Still better than 14 ppg Iggy or Kawhi. :lol

Its simply way easier to win FMVP. Literal role players can win it.

No role player in the last 25 years has won a finals MVP.

Kawhi led his team in VORP those entire playoffs and led them in RAPTOR.

Iggy has been an allstar and will end up with a better overall career then Derrick Rose.

HBK_Kliq_2
05-21-2021, 04:38 PM
What do you mean mine? I didn't go to them, I'm just a fan. They went to Iggy and KD, Warrior players. Babyboi melting since he was so sure Kwitter was going to be an MVP this year. Unfortunately you haven't gotten the memo that they don't let soft betas who don't feel like playing through the season get the MVP. That's the Kwitter is never winning it.

Yikes.

Embiid played 51 games this season. The only soft beta is the guy who won 73 games and still choked a 3-1 finals lead or the guy who been to 5 finals and can't win a finals MVP.

tontoz
05-21-2021, 04:41 PM
You’re tripping. What about Giannis? Dame?

Giannis played well enough but you know they aren't going to give it to him 3 straight years after two playoff flameouts. If he hadn't won it before he would probably be a finalist. Politics basically.

Dame had a strong season but probably not top 3. Last MVP ladder i saw had him 5-6 i think. I like Dame but he isn't as dangerous from 3 as Curry. Slightly fewer points slightly worse efficiency. He also doesn't move without the ball like Curry.

tpols
05-21-2021, 04:42 PM
No role player in the last 25 years has won a finals MVP.

Kawhi led his team in VORP those entire playoffs and led them in RAPTOR.

Iggy has been an allstar and will end up with a better overall career then Derrick Rose.
:roll:

Iggy averaged 7/4/3 in the 2016 season. You have no clue what you're talking about. He was absolutely a role player.

tontoz
05-21-2021, 04:44 PM
:roll:

Iggy averaged 7/4/3 in the 2016 season. You have no clue what you're talking about. He was absolutely a role player.

:oldlol:


I actually forgot about that.

HBK_Kliq_2
05-21-2021, 04:46 PM
:roll:

Iggy averaged 7/4/3 in the 2016 season. You have no clue what you're talking about. He was absolutely a role player.

He was an allstar 3 years prior and sacrificed his stats because he was on such a good team, so he wasn't a role player. He also ended up with a better career then Derrick Rose.

StrongLurk
05-21-2021, 04:46 PM
Bro Curry being top three is so dumb.

MVP does not equal best player in the league. You could argue Curry was best in the regular season, but that is a different conversation than MVP.

The only person who deserves MVP is Jokic. Lebron/Embiid were leading the first half of the season but injuries derailed their MVP case.

hold this L
05-21-2021, 04:46 PM
Embiid played 51 games this season. The only soft beta is the guy who won 73 games and still choked a 3-1 finals lead or the guy who been to 5 finals and can't win a finals MVP.
I'm totally fine with people shitting on Warrior fans, especially Lebron and Cavs fans for what happened. They did it, talk that shit.

except for

OKC, Clippers and Kwitter fans. Remember this guy in last years playoffs?

https://img.huffingtonpost.com/asset/5b3e9ed42200002b07eed55b.jpeg?cache=2wp2pqda85&ops=scalefit_630_noupscale

hold this L
05-21-2021, 04:47 PM
Bro Curry being top three is so dumb.

MVP does not equal best player in the league. You could argue Curry was best in the regular season, but that is a different conversation than MVP.

The only person who deserves MVP is Jokic. Lebron/Embiid were leading the first half of the season but injuries derailed their MVP case.
Jokic is winning, so the whole argument is pointless. Joker got this on lock.

HBK_Kliq_2
05-21-2021, 04:51 PM
I'm totally fine with people shitting on Warrior fans, especially Lebron and Cavs fans for what happened. They did it, talk that shit.

except for

OKC, Clippers and Kwitter fans. Remember this guy in last years playoffs?

https://img.huffingtonpost.com/asset/5b3e9ed42200002b07eed55b.jpeg?cache=2wp2pqda85&ops=scalefit_630_noupscale

Kawhi had a higher GmSc then Jokic that series though.

Lets look at the 2016 finals. i feel sorry for Curry, so i will not even bring up Lebron.

Irving GmSc: 19.1

Curry GmSc: 13.1

Now lets take a look at the 2014 finals.

Kawhi GmSc: 15.8

And kawhi was supposed to be the one who was a role player hahahaah. Again, i feel sorry for Curry so i will not even bring up Lebron.

All i have to do is bring up Irving or 2014 Kawhi and I still make Curry look like the biggest choker in NBA history.

tontoz
05-21-2021, 04:51 PM
You could argue Curry was best in the regular season, but that is a different conversation than MVP.



Uhh....that is exactly what the MVP was about, the best player in the regular season.

tpols
05-21-2021, 04:55 PM
You could argue Curry was best in the regular season, but that is a different conversation than MVP.

Do you have brain damage? That's exactly what MVP is.

Axe
05-21-2021, 05:56 PM
He won a scoring title with elite scoring efficiency and is ranked first in RPM.

Only 3 times in history has a player averaged over 30 ppg with a TS over 65%. This is the 2nd time Curry did it. He was really good.

A lot of the other top players missed a lot of games which hurt their case.
Curry shone which resulted into a scoring title for him at age 33 and became an mvp candidate when he had teammates who wallowed in mediocrity during this season. But too bad it just wasn't enough to avoid the losers bracket. One which became a matchup against the 7th seed lakers, where he got to see a clutch three 'in your face' shot by reigning finals mvp in king kong lebron james, who did so wonderfully with a limping leg and a painful eye with a minute left in the said game.

Axe
05-21-2021, 06:06 PM
Man stop. When was the last time the Suns had the second best record in all of the NBA? Sure Suns weren’t a bad team minus Paul. They would probably be in the play in tournament trying to win a seeding. No lock to win it either. With Paul? He’s been huge in their growth and development. He’s a second coach on the court. He’s not going to take shots from guys who need them. He’s going to set you up. He’s going to defend. He’s going to get buckets if the situation calls for it. Heck vs Sixers we locked up Booker and Paul killed us hitting some unbelievable shots. How is what Paul did for Suns not as good as what Curry has done for the Warriors?
This. Op acting as if booker or ayton have ever been to the playoffs while downplaying the impact cp3 gave to phoenix recently, who should have been the third or fourth mvp candidate instead for his admirable selfless efforts. Also made a big deal of the bubble last year because his hero dingo hasn't been in one. Really just goes to show how selective he is like the other curry stains itb.

tontoz
05-21-2021, 06:12 PM
This. Op acting as if booker or ayton have ever been to the playoffs while downplaying the impact cp3 gave to phoenix recently, who should have been the third or fourth mvp candidate instead for his admirable selfless efforts. Also made a big deal of the bubble last year because his hero dingo hasn't been in one. Really just goes to show how selective he is like the other curry stains itb.


Suns were literally one game out of the playoffs last season with their centers missing 66 games combined. Talk about selective.

Maybe we should give Crowder the MVP since the Suns couldn't make the playoffs without him.

Axe
05-21-2021, 06:17 PM
It seems you forgot how much of an easy schedule they've had compared to portland, memphis and san antonio when they were all battling for that last playoff spot in the tight so-called wild wild west back then.

fourkicks44
05-21-2021, 06:18 PM
https://youtu.be/pVQX2udB5Os
Looks more clearly a travel from that angle.

tontoz
05-21-2021, 06:26 PM
It seems you forgot how much of an easy schedule they've had compared to portland, memphis and san antonio when they were all battling for that last playoff spot in the tight so-called wild wild west back then.

:facepalm

Their last 3 wins prior to the bubble were against Utah, Portland and the Bucks.

In the bubble they beat Dallas twice, Philly, Miami, Indy, and the clippers. Their only easy games in the bubble were the wizards and OKC.

HBK_Kliq_2
05-21-2021, 06:33 PM
Looks more clearly a travel from that angle.

Looks more clearly like boogers are coming out of embiid's nose while he's crying in that angle as well.

But go ahead, take your mvp finalist at 51 games played. I'm sure the media feels sorry for embiid after what Kawhi did to him. We haven't seen a beat down like that since what hakeem did to David Robinson.

HBK_Kliq_2
05-21-2021, 06:36 PM
https://youtu.be/tkQwj2UsTlA

10 seconds "fires a long one. Nothin but net. Ka whi not"

Meticode
05-21-2021, 06:40 PM
My personal pick has been Jokic since early April. Averaged 26/11/8 on 56% shooting as a center? That doesn't happen. Meaning the 8 assists for a center. Then throw in the 39% from three and taking three of those a game. 87% from the line. Centers don't do that and never have done that.

Oh also, played all 72 games.

Curry's team doesn't have a good enough record and Embiid missed too many games.

MavAlbert
05-21-2021, 06:40 PM
I’m talking about in the past. Where guys have balled out on lesser teams taking them to the playoffs. And were never considered top 3 for it like Curry has. Heck Suns 2nd best record in the NBA.how is Curry over Paul given the same “he carried them” logic that’s being used in Curry defense?

westbrook

Axe
05-21-2021, 06:49 PM
https://youtu.be/tkQwj2UsTlA

10 seconds "fires a long one. Nothin but net. Ka whi not"
Still not mvp lmao

Meticode
05-21-2021, 06:52 PM
westbrook

I think there's been like two exceptions to the rule because of their outstanding individual success. Westbrook was one because he got he first triple double season in like forever. And I think the other was Kareem for the Bucks when they didn't even make the playoffs? Not sure of others. But like 95%+ of the time the MVP has their team in a Top 3 or Top 4 ranking seed on their league.

Xiao Yao You
05-21-2021, 07:28 PM
Don’t be mad he doubled Rudy in scoring avg. Yiiiiikes


I know I know I know I know his hard setting screens make up for it!

best player on the best team

RRR3
05-21-2021, 07:55 PM
best player on the best team
And yet Embiid was an MVP finalist and he wasn’t.

Xiao Yao You
05-21-2021, 08:16 PM
And yet Embiid was an MVP finalist and he wasn’t.

yep the league is a joke

RRR3
05-21-2021, 08:49 PM
yep the league is a joke
Nah you’re the only person on earth who thinks Wop bop a loo bop a lop bom bom Toody Froody Rudy is better than Embiid.

Xiao Yao You
05-21-2021, 09:30 PM
Nah you’re the only person on earth who thinks Wop bop a loo bop a lop bom bom Toody Froody Rudy is better than Embiid.

never said that. He should have certainly been in the MVP conversation. Only two teams have a a better record than the Jazz's 22-7 without Conley/Mitchell.

GOBB
05-22-2021, 02:10 AM
Yeah Curry 3rd in mvp race despite missing playoffs. Solid.

LoneyROY7
05-22-2021, 02:15 AM
OP's last activity: Yesterday 9:47pm.

:yaohappy:

tontoz
05-22-2021, 10:17 AM
OP's last activity: Yesterday 9:47pm.

:yaohappy:


Uhhh... you realize it was friday night, right? Some of us don't live on this forum.

So in two play in games Curry scored 76 pts with a TS of 66% in spite of being routinely doubled. GS was +8 in the 88 minutes he played. In the 13 minutes he didn't play the Warriors were -16.

Of course i know you clowns aren't interested in facts.

Mr.GOAT2408
05-22-2021, 06:28 PM
Curry shouldn't have even been top 3 for voting, Warriors won games largely because of defense which he's obviously not responsible for, he was important for offense obviously but they weren't that great on O even with him on floor (and were much worse when Green wasn't there with him, he needs his high IQ point forwards to thrive even in today's very 6'3 and under friendly NBA) so the "worst O in league without him" isn't quite as powerful as his supporters want it to be, or missing games against some of their toughest opponents (oftentimes without Green). Not at all comparable to actual carry jobs like 06 Kobe (who should have won that year)


Jokic my pick largely because he stayed healthy, Embiid was my pick early in the season but he missed too much time but him and Giannis would round out my top 3

GOBB
05-22-2021, 08:43 PM
Exactly Giannis rounds out top 3. And I gave Jokic the award due to Jamal Murray going down. The games missed aren’t that big for me. But the fact Jokic didn’t miss a beat during that stretch? Easy winner winner chicken dinner.

Curry belongs with the other guys who had great seasons and their teams barely made the playoffs. And in his case his team didn’t. We can’t just rewrite the rules here. You reward Curry and skipped over other dudes in his shoes in prior years. Solid.

Chuckbe
05-22-2021, 09:38 PM
Exactly Giannis rounds out top 3. And I gave Jokic the award due to Jamal Murray going down. The games missed aren’t that big for me. But the fact Jokic didn’t miss a beat during that stretch? Easy winner winner chicken dinner.

Curry belongs with the other guys who had great seasons and their teams barely made the playoffs. And in his case his team didn’t. We can’t just rewrite the rules here. You reward Curry and skipped over other dudes in his shoes in prior years. Solid.

Not just Murray, Barton, Dozier and Monte Morris also went down, Milsap didn't play b2bs and they still kept winning.