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Nike D'Antoni
05-21-2021, 09:49 PM
WHo do you take ahead in all time rankings?

Nike D'Antoni
05-21-2021, 09:56 PM
Rings:
Curry 3
Durant 2

League MVP:
Curry 2
Durant 1

All-NBA First Team
Durant 6
Curry 3

Finals MVP:
Durant 2
Curry 0

Scoring titles:
Durant 4
Curry 2

Steals Leader:
Curry 1
Durant 0

Rookie of The Year
Durant 1
Curry 0

FultzNationRISE
05-21-2021, 10:16 PM
Lebron, easily

Nike D'Antoni
05-21-2021, 10:23 PM
Espn all time had Curry 13th, Durant 14th.

1.Michael Jordan
2.LeBron James
3.Kareem Abdul-Jabbar
4.Bill Russell
5.Magic Johnson
6.Wilt Chamberlain
7.Larry Bird
8.Tim Duncan
9.Kobe Bryant
10.Shaquille O’Neal
11.Oscar Robertson
12.Hakeem Olajuwon
13.Stephen Curry
14.Kevin Durant
15.Julius Erving
16.Jerry West
17.Karl Malone
18.Moses Malone
19.Dirk Nowitzki
20.Kevin Garnett
21.Scottie Pippen
22.Elgin Baylor
23.Charles Barkley
24.David Robinson
25.Kawhi Leonard

Cold soul
05-21-2021, 10:41 PM
Durant for sure a better player and his career has been better than Curry.

Stanley Kobrick
05-21-2021, 10:55 PM
Durant wouldn't have his team in 8th seed getting roasted by Alex Caruso and Dillon Brooks

Nike D'Antoni
05-22-2021, 01:30 AM
Curry won without Durant, Durant will win this year without Curry

Nike D'Antoni
05-27-2021, 09:44 PM
I really wanted to dig more into this.
Went to Quora to see some replies


https://www.quora.com/Is-Kevin-Durant-or-Stephen-Curry-the-better-player



I firmly believe it’s Steph, it’s funny how people underrated him today as if he got worse, did we all forget 2016? Curry was rivalling LeBron in popularity, I mean this guy was just taking over the world, before 2015 KD was definitely the better player but after that Curry won back to back MVPs with the 2016 MVP being one of the best MVP seasons of all time. We would’ve never taken KD over curry at that point, also like wasn’t Curry the one who came back from a 3–1 to KD? He literally hit the game 7 game winning OT deep three buzzer beater.

Curry is a earned champ and KD couldn’t win so he joined a 73–9 team. After that everyone started sleeping on Curry, because Curry is a great enough player to share the ball in order to sacrifice his own stats to win, it just makes KD look good as he is a pure scorer and even though Curry is around the same level scorer as KD, Curry is a point Guard, he’s supposed to pass even though he CAN just score 30 a night if he wanted to, for the past couple years LeBron and Curry have undoubtedly been the two best players.




Steph Curry, and it’s not close.

In Durant’s two full seasons with the Warriors, when Curry is not on the court, his +/- is +1.8 per 48 minutes. Curry’s +/- when Durant isn’t on the court is an incredible +14.8 per 48 minutes. During those seasons, the Warriors were 23–10 in games with Durant and without Curry (69.7%), they are 26–3 with Curry and without Durant (89.7%), and are 107–26 with both of them (80.5%). They’ve had a BETTER winning percentage without Durant! This current season has been much the same without Curry. Curry is the most underrated player in the NBA because his individual analytics don’t represent the opportunities, spacing, and pace that he creates for his teammates. If you look all of his teammates with Curry on/off court, he makes everyone better in a way that no other player comes close to, statistically. His teammates shoot over 7 percentage points higher TS% when he is on the court, and Lebron is second at 4 percentage points.




Durant is the better player period, now or as a whole career. The illusion of Curry being better comes from the fact that the offense is built for him. Durant is a pick and roll player as a ball handler. The problem is that the Warriors have no player who is great at both rolling to finish as well as rolling to pass. This means that the defense can just double team Durant and end the issue. Curry, on the other hand, has personnel for him. He runs a lot off ball, and needs ways to get open. Here, he can use Klay’s gravity and general floppy action from other good shooters. The only reason Curry can get open in certain situations is because the team also has to worry about Klay going the other way (or Durant).

If in 2013–14 when Westbrook was injured, you put Curry instead of Durant on OKC, they would have been terrible. Teams would have physically destroyed Curry, knowing they don’t have other shooters to worry about. Durant’s greatness allows whatever excuse of a system the Thunder had to even work a little bit.

Overall, Durant is better, this is indisputable, but Curry fits better in the GSW system




Very Obvious. Watch games with either KD or Steph absent.

KD can do things beyond normal human beings, but Curry can make other four players on the court with him better and achieve things that is hard for a single all star player to accomplish.

You can KD has better offense skills, more dagger shots, and better defense, but based on the fact that basketball is mostly about teamwork, Curry is at the same level as Lebron or Magic


Can really dig more there, but wanna see what people add on ISH

tontoz
05-27-2021, 09:57 PM
Durant wouldn't have his team in 8th seed getting roasted by Alex Caruso and Dillon Brooks

Curry destroyed Caruso, scoring over twice as many points as the balding one.

Dillon Brooks dropped 31 on Utah and beat them in game 1.

L.Kizzle
05-27-2021, 10:02 PM
Durant for sure a better player and his career has been better than Curry.

Durant would have no rings if he did not join Curry tho . .

Hamtaro CP3KDKG
05-27-2021, 10:17 PM
Who the **** voted for a tie :biggums::biggums::biggums:

HoopsNY
05-27-2021, 10:20 PM
How is this even a question? Durant played alongside Curry and won FMVP in both series that they won. It's not close. Curry is overrated in the all-time rankings.

warriorfan
05-27-2021, 11:38 PM
How is this even a question? Durant played alongside Curry and won FMVP in both series that they won. It's not close. Curry is overrated in the all-time rankings.

What did Durant win without Curry though?

Axe
05-27-2021, 11:44 PM
Durant wouldn't have his team in 8th seed getting roasted by Alex Caruso and Dillon Brooks
Durant has also been to more playoffs with three different teams than his former nickelodeon mvp teammate.

Thenameless
05-28-2021, 12:30 AM
In pure basketball ability it's close. Curry beats him on intangibles like leadership and team chemistry. Durant has weird tantrums that can really hurt a team.

HoopsNY
05-28-2021, 07:38 AM
What did Durant win without Curry though?

Durant and OKC faced a super-team in Miami with Wade, LeBron, Bosh and co. Not to mention that team was very young (Durant himself being only 23).

In that series, Durant put up 31/6/2 on 65% TS%. He wasn't that good defensively and the numbers look better than the actual performance, but compared to Steph in 2015, he's miles ahead. Steph didn't even win FMVP in a winning effort.

HoopsNY
05-28-2021, 07:40 AM
In pure basketball ability it's close. Curry beats him on intangibles like leadership and team chemistry. Durant has weird tantrums that can really hurt a team.

Leadership? Sure, Steph led his team this year, but can 2010 Durant get some love for leading his team to 50 wins with a 2nd year Westbrook, all while only being 21 years old himself?

We can't escape the fact that Durant was the better player when he played alongside Steph. That's just an observable and statistical fact that cannot be ignored.

Stanley Kobrick
05-28-2021, 08:31 AM
it seems the consensus shows most have durant ranked over stephen curry all time. very interesting

Stanley Kobrick
05-28-2021, 08:32 AM
Durant has also been to more playoffs with three different teams than his former nickelodeon mvp teammate.
high iq post

Axe
05-28-2021, 09:09 AM
it seems the consensus shows most have durant ranked over stephen curry all time. very interesting

high iq post
:cheers:

StrongLurk
05-28-2021, 09:10 AM
It's Durant, come on man.

You could argue Curry's best few yers equal Durant's, but Durant has been a superstar for way more years than Curry.

Shooter
05-28-2021, 09:15 AM
2016 wcf

Phoenix
05-28-2021, 09:51 AM
This may be one of those who's better/greater questions. Who's better overall? I'd go with Durant, I just feel like when he's on there's less the defense can do because that combo of shooting, length/height, and handles is simply too devastating. There's exactly one player in the league who can potentially disrupt his shot, and that's Giannis but that's assuming he can stay in front of him.

As far as who's 'greater' in terms of legacy, well whatever you think of the modern NBA product there's no doubt that Steph has pioneered the current era. Steph is very much a unique entity in terms of what he's brought to the game, while Durant is more the evolution of your Iceman, Alex English types but with more height and marksmanship. His actual game isn't so much an evolution in and of itself. And while it is true that when the chips were on the table, Durant won FMVP over Steph, it's also true that the Warriors record was better when Steph played without Durant then vice versa. The Warriors were more of a typical 'give the ball to the hero and let him iso' team with KD instead of the flowing offense built around Steph's gravity which opened it up for everyone.

Stanley Kobrick
05-28-2021, 10:27 AM
what's interesting is durant leading with 17 votes to stephen curry's 10 votes, but when you take into account welfarefans half dozen dups, it only comes to 4 votes stephen curry. so realistically we are looking at 17-4 tilted in favor of durant

Axe
05-28-2021, 10:30 AM
what's interesting is durant leading with 17 votes to stephen curry's 10 votes, but when you take into account welfarefans half dozen dups, it only comes to 4 votes stephen curry. so realistically we are looking at 17-4 tilted in favor of durant
In other words, he rigged the poll with his dups but it still wasn't enough to outnumber the actual users who voted for durant in this thread. :ohwell:

And1AllDay
05-28-2021, 10:36 AM
curry needed klay

kd needed curry and klay

Nashty
05-28-2021, 06:24 PM
Curry has 0 rings.

light
05-28-2021, 07:10 PM
Curry is slightly ahead. He's more unique and made a bigger impact on the league. KD is just riding the wake that LeBron made at SF. You could call KD a LeBron wannabe because that's essentially what him and Giannis and Kawhi are.

J Shuttlesworth
05-28-2021, 07:27 PM
Curry without KD > KD without Curry

J Shuttlesworth
05-28-2021, 07:28 PM
2016 wcf

True, the 3-1 lead blown hierarchy goes:

KD blew a 3-1 lead to Curry who blew a 3-1 lead to the GOAT

It's better to lose a 3-1 lead to the GOAT than to lose one to a top 15 all time player

FultzNationRISE
05-28-2021, 07:29 PM
Who the **** voted for a tie :biggums::biggums::biggums:


ME.


Problem, jack? :crazysam:

Axe
05-28-2021, 07:32 PM
Curry has never had a finals berth without steve kerr's tutelage.

Wally450
05-28-2021, 07:33 PM
KD's resume is so weak. 2 weakest rings of all time.

tontoz
05-28-2021, 07:33 PM
Curry has never had a finals berth without steve kerr's tutelage.


How did Kerr do last year without Steph?

:roll:

Axe
05-28-2021, 07:36 PM
How did Kerr do last year without Steph?

:roll:
He would have done a decent job with the team if klay didn't end up in rehabilitation.

SouBeachTalents
05-28-2021, 07:36 PM
KD's resume is so weak. 2 weakest rings of all time.
This years ain't much better, play 35 games the whole year then win with Harden/Kyrie :lol

Shooter
05-28-2021, 09:35 PM
2016 wcf




True, the 3-1 lead blown hierarchy goes:

KD blew a 3-1 lead to Curry who blew a 3-1 lead to the GOAT

It's better to lose a 3-1 lead to the GOAT than to lose one to a top 15 all time player



curry needed klay

kd needed curry and klay

We done here?

John8204
01-25-2022, 01:09 AM
Curry, Durant needs a three-peat with Harden and Irving for me to put him in the top twenty.

SouBeachTalents
01-25-2022, 01:31 AM
Curry, Durant needs a three-peat with Harden and Irving for me to put him in the top twenty.
That's retarded.

John8204
01-25-2022, 01:44 AM
That's retarded.

Says mr Lebron isn't in the top fifteen all-time.

Durant has had three chances at a dynasty and he's failed each time

Axe
01-25-2022, 03:07 AM
Kd has more playoff trips than his former teammate, despite being half a year younger than him.