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tontoz

05-22-2021, 08:00 PM

Come on guys I know Hbk is a clown but Kawhi didn't have a bad game. He was just off from 3.

26/10/5 with 4 steals and no turnovers isn't a bad game lol. If he makes one more three that would give him a 57% TS.

We saw real crap games in the Bucks-Heat game. This one isn't on that level.

ArbitraryWater

05-22-2021, 08:05 PM

HBK_Kliq_2

05-22-2021, 08:07 PM

1 tough game because it was an early start time. Does it matter that much anyway? He's already the goat after his 2019 playoff work.

tpols

05-22-2021, 08:09 PM

tpols

05-22-2021, 08:11 PM

1 tough game because it was an early start time. Does it matter that much anyway? He's already the goat after his 2019 playoff work.

:roll:

Now its an early start time.

Last year it was the bubble.

Doesn't your bitch ass ever get tired of running out of excuses?

ArbitraryWater

05-22-2021, 08:12 PM

That's an absurd argument. So he hypothetically shot on 57 TS? So what did he really shoot on? 53?

:roll::roll::roll:

thats some ImKobe shit

FireDavidKahn

05-22-2021, 08:16 PM

I remember a time where there was a burden on stars in clutch time
:roll:

So true

tontoz

05-22-2021, 08:25 PM

That's an absurd argument. So he hypothetically shot on 57 TS? So what did he really shoot on? 53?

51%

We saw real garbage games today from Bam, Butler and Giannis. Kawhi did everything well except shooting 1-6 from 3. Just because he was off from 3 doesn't mean he had a bad game. He shot 50% on 2s, got 10 rebounds, 5 assists and 4 steals with no turnovers. That isn't a bad game.

tontoz

05-22-2021, 08:27 PM

I remember a time where there was a burden on stars in clutch time

Kawhi has come up big in clutch moments enough that I am willing to give him the benefit of the doubt that he didn't choke.

He isn't Playoff P

Spurs m8

05-22-2021, 08:29 PM

Took the bron path....get ya stats early and disappear when it matters, most of the time

tontoz

05-22-2021, 08:31 PM

Game 7 against Denver last year I would call a choke. Not today

DABIGSALSISHA

05-22-2021, 08:34 PM

in down-the-wire game.

What you make of this?

Very Easy.

If They go 0-2 they are DONE.

StrongLurk

05-22-2021, 08:34 PM

That one retarded poster will legit be on suicide watch if the Clips don't win the chip this year.

DABIGSALSISHA

05-22-2021, 08:36 PM

Game 7 against Denver last year I would call a choke. Not today

I agree. The Mavs just outplayed them today. Luka and the Mavs always had an answer for the clippers and did more on the court with LESS.

tpols

05-22-2021, 08:45 PM

51%

We saw real garbage games today from Bam, Butler and Giannis. Kawhi did everything well except shooting 1-6 from 3. Just because he was off from 3 doesn't mean he had a bad game. He shot 50% on 2s, got 10 rebounds, 5 assists and 4 steals with no turnovers. That isn't a bad game.

The 0 turnovers definitely matters. But shit... He still ****ed up. Clippers have no business losing to the Mavericks. Luka knows he's in these boys head. "Bitch ass white boy". That stupid son of a bitch Harrell shouldve never uttered those words. He placed a curse on his former team.

red1

05-22-2021, 08:50 PM

he's no lebron that's for sure

tontoz

05-22-2021, 08:57 PM

The 0 turnovers definitely matters. But shit... He still ****ed up. Clippers have no business losing to the Mavericks. Luka knows he's in these boys head. "Bitch ass white boy". That stupid son of a bitch Harrell shouldve never uttered those words. He placed a curse on his former team.

Doncic averaged 31 against them in last year's series I believe. Doncic is a prodigy. He never showed any sign of playoff jitters.

Kawhi wasn't a prodigy. He was what, the 15th pick in the draft? He just developed his game over time to become a great player.

I don't like defending Mr Load Management, especially after they tanked to avoid the Lakers. I would love it if Dallas sends them fishing but that wasn't a bad game. It wasn't as good as Doncic but that doesn't make it bad.

kawhileonard2

05-22-2021, 08:59 PM

ArbitraryWater

05-23-2021, 05:10 AM

Kawhi has come up big in clutch moments enough that I am willing to give him the benefit of the doubt that he didn't choke.

He isn't Playoff P

You dont give benefit of the doubts out on these things that are factual: he didn't show up.

Doesnt matter if he choked or not.

He didnt show up.

And its becoming far too frequent for him lately.

TheCorporation

05-23-2021, 10:11 AM

he's no lebron that's for sure

Not even an MJ :(

He's a Playoff K

tontoz

05-23-2021, 10:35 AM

You dont give benefit of the doubts out on these things that are factual: he didn't show up.

Doesnt matter if he choked or not.

He didnt show up.

And its becoming far too frequent for him lately.

26/10/5 with 4 steals and no turnovers isn't showing up?

:facepalm

ArbitraryWater

05-23-2021, 10:55 AM

26/10/5 with 4 steals and no turnovers isn't showing up?

:facepalm

What exactly do you see depicted in the thread here?

First you talked about choking.

Since when has choking ever been about a game statline? ****ing moron get out of my face with your stupidity

tontoz

05-23-2021, 11:07 AM

What exactly do you see depicted in the thread here?

First you talked about choking.

Since when has choking ever been about a game statline? ****ing moron get out of my face with your stupidity

What I see depicted is cherry picked info used to make a troll thread.

Why did you pick the 8 minute mark? Was it because Kawhi made a jumper at 8:10? So a shot made inside 8 minutes is considered clutch but a shot made at 8:10 isn't?

:facepalm

Dallas won by 10, not one. It isn't like he had an easy shot to win and missed, or free throws to win and missed. The last 3 point shot he took with 5 seconds left was meaningless.

ArbitraryWater

05-23-2021, 02:00 PM

What I see depicted is cherry picked info used to make a troll thread.

Why did you pick the 8 minute mark? Was it because Kawhi made a jumper at 8:10? So a shot made inside 8 minutes is considered clutch but a shot made at 8:10 isn't?

:facepalm

Dallas won by 10, not one. It isn't like he had an easy shot to win and missed, or free throws to win and missed. The last 3 point shot he took with 5 seconds left was meaningless.

How retarded do you have to be?

Like 8 minutes isnt a substantially long enough time.

Like Im being unkind to Kawhi doing only the last EIGHT minutes.

They won by 10 because it blew up in the last minute.

The game was one that is considered of clutch criteria - final 5 minutes, 5 points or less. In fact, it was a tied game with 3 minutes left.

Kawhi being 0/2 instead of 0/3 isnt helping him.

His production was a no show.

Now do you have anything meaningful to add to that?

tontoz

05-23-2021, 03:20 PM

How retarded do you have to be?

Like 8 minutes isnt a substantially long enough time.

Like Im being unkind to Kawhi doing only the last EIGHT minutes.

They won by 10 because it blew up in the last minute.

The game was one that is considered of clutch criteria - final 5 minutes, 5 points or less. In fact, it was a tied game with 3 minutes left.

Kawhi being 0/2 instead of 0/3 isnt helping him.

His production was a no show.

Now do you have anything meaningful to add to that?

Not surprised you resort to making stuff up. It was a 7 point game with 59.3 seconds left.

From that point PG13 missed a 3, Batum missed 2 3s, then Kawhi missed with 5 seconds left down 10.

I suppose all of that is Kawhi's fault, right?

ArbitraryWater

05-23-2021, 04:10 PM

Not surprised you resort to making stuff up. It was a 7 point game with 59.3 seconds left.

From that point PG13 missed a 3, Batum missed 2 3s, then Kawhi missed with 5 seconds left down 10.

I suppose all of that is Kawhi's fault, right?

So it was a 5 point game with a minute left?

****ing dumbass lol

Within the last 8 minutes the Clippers led, yet at the end they lost by 10 and Kawhi scored 1 point the rest of the way.

If that isnt relevant, you're taking it up the ass for him.

tontoz

05-23-2021, 04:40 PM

So it was a 5 point game with a minute left?

****ing dumbass lol

Within the last 8 minutes the Clippers led, yet at the end they lost by 10 and Kawhi scored 1 point the rest of the way.

If that isnt relevant, you're taking it up the ass for him.

The other guys on the team missed 7 shots in the last 5 minutes and committed a turnover but it's Kawhi that choked.

That is the logic I would expect from someone with their nose up Lebron's ass.

ArbitraryWater

05-23-2021, 04:47 PM

The other guys on the team missed 7 shots in the last 5 minutes and committed a turnover but it's Kawhi that choked.

That is the logic I would expect from someone with their nose up Lebron's ass.

maybe Kawhi the superstar #1 option should get himself involved instead of taking 2 shots the last 8 minutes?

hmm interesting thought

tontoz

05-23-2021, 04:54 PM

maybe Kawhi the superstar #1 option should get himself involved instead of taking 2 shots the last 8 minutes?

hmm interesting thought

Let's look at Dallas the last 5 minutes.

Hardaway 5 pts
Brunson 4 pts
KP 4 pts
Finney Smith 3 pts
Doncic 0 pts

I guess Doncic isn't a superstar first option since he didn't score in the last 5 minutes.

:facepalm

ArbitraryWater

05-23-2021, 05:11 PM

Let's look at Dallas the last 5 minutes.

Hardaway 5 pts
Brunson 4 pts
KP 4 pts
Finney Smith 3 pts
Doncic 0 pts

I guess Doncic isn't a superstar first option since he didn't score in the last 5 minutes.

:facepalm

His team was doing well, you ****ing retard.

Scoring 1 point in the last 8 minutes of a 1 possession game is okay now? How are you this retarded?

tontoz

05-23-2021, 05:17 PM

His team was doing well, you ****ing retard.

Scoring 1 point in the last 8 minutes of a 1 possession game is okay now? How are you this retarded?

Didn't you just say the clippers led with 8 minutes but now you say Dallas was doing well?

:facepalm

Kawhi made a jumper at the 8:10 mark to put the clippers up one. Doncic didn't score a point the rest of the game. Dude's a beta choking bitch, right?

:roll:

ArbitraryWater

05-23-2021, 06:00 PM

Didn't you just say the clippers led with 8 minutes but now you say Dallas was doing well?

:facepalm

Kawhi made a jumper at the 8:10 mark to put the clippers up one. Doncic didn't score a point the rest of the game. Dude's a beta choking bitch, right?

:roll:

You think thats a contradiction? :oldlol:

Doncic didnt score late, but he didnt need to, his teammates got it going.

No matter how much you take it up the ass for Kawhi: 1 point in the last 8 minutes of a 1 possession game

you cant deny the facts, nor that that is trash.

tontoz

05-23-2021, 06:10 PM

You think thats a contradiction? :oldlol:

Doncic didnt score late, but he didnt need to, his teammates got it going.

No matter how much you take it up the ass for Kawhi: 1 point in the last 8 minutes of a 1 possession game

you cant deny the facts, nor that that is trash.

And that's one more than Doncic. His teammates made shots, Kawhi's didn't. Is Kawhi supposed to tell his teammates not to shoot?

Nothing to see here.

ArbitraryWater

05-23-2021, 06:16 PM

And that's one more than Doncic. His teammates made shots, Kawhi's didn't. Is Kawhi supposed to tell his teammates not to shoot?

Nothing to see here.

Nothing to see here? 1 point in the last 8 minutes is okay now? So if he keeps this up, it will continue to be nothing to see?

Interesting...

Yes, superstars demand the ball in these situations when others arent getting it done and the offense is stagnating. Thats literally what they are supposed to do.

spread those cheeks wide, tontoz.

tontoz

05-23-2021, 06:21 PM

Nothing to see here? 1 point in the last 8 minutes is okay now? So if he keeps this up, it will continue to be nothing to see?

Interesting...

Yes, superstars demand the ball in these situations when others arent getting it done and the offense is stagnating. Thats literally what they are supposed to do.

spread those cheeks wide, tontoz.

1 pt is better than 0.

Are you really this butthurt about Kawhi beating LeBron in the finals? It was a long time ago. Get over it FFS.

ArbitraryWater

05-23-2021, 06:28 PM

1 pt is better than 0.

Are you really this butthurt about Kawhi beating LeBron in the finals? It was a long time ago. Get over it FFS.

Asking again:

Nothing to see here? 1 point in the last 8 minutes is okay now? So if he keeps this up, it will continue to be nothing to see?

LeCola

05-23-2021, 06:28 PM

Today, Lebron 0 made shots last 9 minutes, 0 point, 0/3 shooting + missed FT, clutch turnover :oldlol:

ArbitraryWater

05-23-2021, 06:29 PM

Today, Lebron 0 made shots last 9 minutes, 0 point, 0/3 shooting + missed FT, clutch turnover :oldlol:

yeah, but today's game was never close and doesnt fall under the parameters of a clutch game: last 5 minutes, 5 points or less

not scoring in semi-blowouts happens every day, LeCola.

LeCola

05-23-2021, 06:36 PM

yeah, but today's game was never close and doesnt fall under the parameters of a clutch game: last 5 minutes, 5 points or less

not scoring in semi-blowouts happens every day, LeCola.

It was only 9 point difference at 9:02, just after Lebron misses 3 of 4 free throw attempts.

tontoz

05-23-2021, 06:42 PM

Asking again:

Nothing to see here? 1 point in the last 8 minutes is okay now? So if he keeps this up, it will continue to be nothing to see?

If it's a winnable game and he is shooting.blanks at the end then yes it will be an issue. This game wasn't about Kawhi choking though.

Lukas teammates hit shots, Kawhi's didn't. Hence 10 point win for Dallas.

tontoz

05-23-2021, 06:49 PM

It was only 9 point difference at 9:02, just after Lebron misses 3 of 4 free throw attempts.

3-6 from the foul line, 6-13 from the field. Is that what superstars do in winnable games?

Schroder hit a 3 to cut the lead to 7 with 6:41 left. After that LeBron missed 3 3s and committed a turnover.

0 points from the clutch God. :oldlol:

ArbitraryWater

05-23-2021, 06:51 PM

If it's a winnable game and he is shooting.blanks at the end then yes it will be an issue. This game wasn't about Kawhi choking though.

Lukas teammates hit shots, Kawhi's didn't. Hence 10 point win for Dallas.

So this game wasnt winnable?

:roll:

No one said it was choking. Beat that stupid word out of your head. He didn't show up, period. Irrelevant how you want to describe it.

So Kawhi's teammates are blamed for not producing, but Kawhi himself isnt?

Thats a fun luxury.

Usually works the other way around when you're the #1 guy.

You're literally deluding yourself now.

Sad to see.

ArbitraryWater

05-23-2021, 06:52 PM

3-6 from the foul line, 6-13 from the field. Is that what superstars do in winnable games?

Schroder hit a 3 to cut the lead to 7 with 6:41 left. After that LeBron missed 3 3s and committed a turnover.

0 points from the clutch God. :oldlol:

Ah yes, the game that was tied with 3 minutes left and a 1 possession game most of the 4th wasnt winnable, but the game that was never closer than 8 points was...

:lol

tontoz, you moron. You make it too easy.

tontoz

05-23-2021, 06:56 PM

Ah yes, the game that was tied with 3 minutes left and a 1 possession game most of the 4th wasnt winnable, but the game that was never closer than 8 points was...

:lol

tontoz, you moron. You make it too easy.

Dallas won by 10. Suns won by 9. 10 is more than 9.

Suns game would have been closer if LeBron didn't wet the bed.

BTW the deficit was 7 after Schroder made a 3 so "never closer than 8" is FALSE. It was a 7 point game in the 3rd as well.

TheCorporation

05-23-2021, 06:57 PM

Playoff K at it again. Like clockwork every year.

LeCola

05-23-2021, 07:04 PM

Playoff K at it again. Like clockwork every year.

What do you think about that?

Today, Lebron 0 made shots last 9 minutes, 0 point, 0/3 shooting + missed FT, clutch turnover :oldlol:

ArbitraryWater

05-23-2021, 07:11 PM

Dallas won by 10. Suns won by 9. 10 is more than 9.

Are you trying to say this game was closer? The Lakers were closer to winning than the Clippers?

Dallas won by 10. Suns won by 9. 10 is more than 9.

Suns game would have been closer if LeBron didn't wet the bed.

BTW the deficit was 7 after Schroder made a 3 so "never closer than 8" is FALSE. It was a 7 point game in the 3rd as well.

What matters is the game's trajectory.

The Mavericks-Clippers game was close throughout, and a 1-possession game for the majority of the quarter. (9 minutes-1.41 minutes left)

The Lakers-Suns game was never closer than 7 and a double-digit game for the majority of the quarter. (only 2.40 minutes not)

Its actually embarrassing I have to spell these things out for you.

At this point you have to know you are retarded. Im deeply hoping only pride is preventing you from admitting this.

tontoz

05-23-2021, 07:15 PM

Are you trying to say this game was closer? The Lakers were closer to winning than the Clippers?

What matters is the game's trajectory.

The Mavericks-Clippers game was close throughout, and a 1-possession game for the majority of the quarter. (9 minutes-1.41 minutes left)

The Lakers-Suns game was never closer than 7 and a double-digit game for the majority of the quarter. (only 2.40 minutes not)

Its actually embarrassing I have to spell these things out for you.

At this point you have to know you are retarded. Im deeply hoping only pride is preventing you from admitting this.

A big reason the game wasn't closer is that LeBron scored 18 points. 18 points? Is that what superstars do in winnable games?

He should have demanded the ball and taken over. 18 points is 6 fewer than Kawhi. :lol

ArbitraryWater

05-23-2021, 07:58 PM

A big reason the game wasn't closer is that LeBron scored 18 points. 18 points? Is that what superstars do in winnable games?

He should have demanded the ball and taken over. 18 points is 6 fewer than Kawhi. :lol

Newsflash: You're deflecting (and trolling)

Gl, any reasonable man reading this convo can see you're retarded, and you'll have to live with that for the rest of your life :lol

tontoz

05-23-2021, 08:09 PM

Newsflash: You're deflecting (and trolling)

Gl, any reasonable man reading this convo can see you're retarded, and you'll have to live with that for the rest of your life :lol

I am not the one making troll threads.

There are legit reasons to criticize kawhi ( non-verbal weirdo, load Mgt, quitting on the Spurs, tanking to avoid the Lakers).

Last night's game wasn't one of them. Lukas teammates stepped up and hit big shots. Kawhi's didn't. Simple as that.

ArbitraryWater

05-24-2021, 09:40 AM

I am not the one making troll threads.

There are legit reasons to criticize kawhi ( non-verbal weirdo, load Mgt, quitting on the Spurs, tanking to avoid the Lakers).

Last night's game wasn't one of them. Lukas teammates stepped up and hit big shots. Kawhi's didn't. Simple as that.

Stop worrying about the teammates. Kawhi is held more accountable than them, thats what happens for superstars that make the big money.

What about KAWHI.

He had 1 point in the last 8 minutes of a 1 possession game.

tontoz

05-24-2021, 09:44 AM

Stop worrying about the teammates. Kawhi is held more accountable than them, thats what happens for superstars that make the big money.

What about KAWHI.

He had 1 point in the last 8 minutes of a 1 possession game.

And Doncic had 0 pts in the last 8 minutes of a 1 possession game. BFD

ArbitraryWater

05-24-2021, 09:47 AM

And Doncic had 0 pts in the last 8 minutes of a 1 possession game. BFD

Doncic at that point was doubled right after half court and picked them apart with his passing, speaking for him. He also set his team up with 30 through 3, and didnt need ton intervene as his teammates hit shots in the 4th. Kawhi has none of these redeeming factors.

You have your head deep up your ass, mate.

Lebron23

05-24-2021, 09:55 AM

Clippers likely make some adjustments and win game 2

Jasper

05-24-2021, 10:01 AM

kiwi isn't the player everyone thinks he is... stat padder' (expect Luc to school him in game 2)

tontoz

05-24-2021, 10:02 AM

Doncic at that point was doubled right after half court and picked them apart with his passing, speaking for him. He also set his team up with 30 through 3, and didnt need ton intervene as his teammates hit shots in the 4th. Kawhi has none of these redeeming factors.

You have your head deep up your ass, mate.

Exactly. Doncics teammates hit shots. Kawhi's didn't. Doncic didn't know his teammates would make all those big shots and Kawhi didnt know his teammates would miss. Kawhi hit the shot that put them up 1 with 8 minutes left, scoring 24 up to that point. Obviously Dallas wanted to make the other guys, who don't have a history of playoff success, beat them.

They ran their offenses and took the shots that were available. Dallas made the shots and won by 10. You are just trying to pin the loss on Kawhi because your nose is attached to Lebron's nether regions.

:blah

ArbitraryWater

05-24-2021, 10:07 AM

Exactly. Doncics teammates hit shots. Kawhi's didn't. Doncic didn't know his teammates would make all those big shots and Kawhi didnt know his teammates would miss. Kawhi hit the shot that put them up 1 with 8 minutes left, scoring 24 up to that point. Obviously Dallas wanted to make the other guys, who don't have a history of playoff success, beat them.

They ran their offenses and took the shots that were available. Dallas made the shots and won by 10. You are just trying to pin the loss on Kawhi because your nose is attached to Lebron's nether regions.

:blah

What about Doncic getting doubled and making the right play out of those doubles did you not understand?

Did you want him to jack up shots with a double on him?

You're coming up with every excuse and deflection in the book for Leonard.

Stop worrying about Luka, stop worrying about LeBron.

tontoz

05-24-2021, 10:12 AM

What about Doncic getting doubled and making the right play out of those doubles did you not understand?

Did you want him to jack up shots with a double on him?

You're coming up with every excuse and deflection in the book for Leonard.

Stop worrying about Luka, stop worrying about LeBron.

But it was a one possession game. A star player is supposed to take over. F passing out of double teams and making the right play. Superstar players are supposed to impose their will and score. Doncic was a beta and got bailed out by his teammates.

For those that arent following the conversation i am being sarcastic.

ArbitraryWater

05-24-2021, 10:24 AM

But it was a one possession game. A star player is supposed to take over. F passing out of double teams and making the right play. Superstar players are supposed to impose their will and score. Doncic was a beta and got bailed out by his teammates.

For those that arent following the conversation i am being sarcastic.

Are you trying to say Kawhi was also doubled near halfcourt?

Cause those circumstances do not apply to him.

So the point stands: Superstars are supposed to take over and score.

Kawhi didn't.

Whats his excuse?

Cause so far you've just said: yeah but eh, **** it...teammates. Doncic.

You compared it to Doncic, then I fact checked you on the context, and now you act like you were aware of it.

Lol.

tontoz

05-24-2021, 10:43 AM

Are you trying to say Kawhi was also doubled near halfcourt?

Cause those circumstances do not apply to him.

So the point stands: Superstars are supposed to take over and score.

Kawhi didn't.

Whats his excuse?

Cause so far you've just said: yeah but eh, **** it...teammates. Doncic.

You compared it to Doncic, then I fact checked you on the context, and now you act like you were aware of it.

Lol.

Kawhi doesnt get the ball at half court so of course he wasn't getting doubled at half court. Duh. However he was obviously the focus of the Dallas defense because he just scored his 24th point to put them up 1.

You have such a woody for Kawhi that you are missing the elephant in the room. Dallas scored 23 pts in the last 8 minutes (that's a 138 per 48 minute pace). They lit up the Clippers defense but you are such a Bron stan that you try to twist the narrative into Kawhi not taking over. It's nonsense.

ArbitraryWater

05-24-2021, 01:45 PM

Kawhi doesnt get the ball at half court so of course he wasn't getting doubled at half court. Duh. However he was obviously the focus of the Dallas defense because he just scored his 24th point to put them up 1.

You have such a woody for Kawhi that you are missing the elephant in the room. Dallas scored 23 pts in the last 8 minutes (that's a 138 per 48 minute pace). They lit up the Clippers defense but you are such a Bron stan that you try to twist the narrative into Kawhi not taking over. It's nonsense.

Kawhi DID not take over.

And again, are you trolling? You can't take such minimal volume where 4 of those points came from intentional fouls in the last minute lol and the Clippers rushing their shot since the timeout at the 1.41 mark.

Well, seems Kawhi can do whatever on your ass.

If he goes 1 point in the last 8 minutes of another 1-possession game tomorrow in an L, fine with you, I guess. Cause the teammatez, and the opponentz! Not the most high profile name on court, no no, not him ;)

tontoz

05-24-2021, 02:00 PM

Kawhi DID not take over.

And again, are you trolling? You can't take such minimal volume where 4 of those points came from intentional fouls in the last minute lol and the Clippers rushing their shot since the timeout at the 1.41 mark.

Well, seems Kawhi can do whatever on your ass.

If he goes 1 point in the last 8 minutes of another 1-possession game tomorrow in an L, fine with you, I guess. Cause the teammatez, and the opponentz! Not the most high profile name on court, no no, not him ;)

The final margin was 10, not one. If Kawhi makes a couple of shots it doesn't matter because they got lit up.

In the last 8 minutes Dallas scored 8 pts on dunks/ layups and another 9 pts on 3s. Those are exactly the shots that defenses try to prevent. You can't pin that all on Kawhi.

Kawhi isn't the pg. He can't just bring the ball up and shoot. Someone has to pass it to him.

Luka does bring the ball up. He also took 3 shots in the last 8 minutes and missed them all. Would you be killing him if his teammates missed those shots and Dallas lost?

ArbitraryWater

05-24-2021, 05:09 PM

The final margin was 10, not one. If Kawhi makes a couple of shots it doesn't matter because they got lit up.

In the last 8 minutes Dallas scored 8 pts on dunks/ layups and another 9 pts on 3s. Those are exactly the shots that defenses try to prevent. You can't pin that all on Kawhi.

Kawhi isn't the pg. He can't just bring the ball up and shoot. Someone has to pass it to him.

Luka does bring the ball up. He also took 3 shots in the last 8 minutes and missed them all. Would you be killing him if his teammates missed those shots and Dallas lost?

They didnt, though.

It was a 5-point game when they took a TO at 1.41 left, and Kawhi then took a quick hurried mid range shot...

then shortly after, they had to resort to intentional fouls.

I'm not sure whats sadder, you trying to paint this fantasy world where this game was a blowout, or you not wanting to hold Kawhi accountable.

And stop acting like Kawhi has no say in what happens in an offensive set :oldlol: if he wants to shoot it, he will shoot it. And he can bring the ball up any time he wants.

Again, if the exact same outcome and trajectory happens in game 2 (hypothetical), what will be your take?

tontoz

05-24-2021, 05:16 PM

They didnt, though.

It was a 5-point game when they took a TO at 1.41 left, and Kawhi then took a quick hurried mid range shot...

then shortly after, they had to resort to intentional fouls.

I'm not sure whats sadder, you trying to paint this fantasy world where this game was a blowout, or you not wanting to hold Kawhi accountable.

And stop acting like Kawhi has no say in what happens in an offensive set :oldlol: if he wants to shoot it, he will shoot it. And he can bring the ball up any time he wants.

Again, if the exact same outcome and trajectory happens in game 2 (hypothetical), what will be your take?

:roll:

First you criticize him for not "taking over" and taking more shots, then you criticize him for taking a "quick hurried" jumper. With 1:34 left should he take his time and hope the defense leaves him an open look? Probably not going to happen.

Sounds like you can't even make up your mind what you are criticizing him for.

And of course you don't address the fact that Dallas had multiple players hitting dunks, layups and 3s because you can't blame it all on Kawhi. Two of those layups/dunks were in the last two minutes.

:facepalm

ArbitraryWater

05-24-2021, 05:33 PM

:roll:

First you criticize him for not "taking over" and taking more shots, then you criticize him for taking a "quick hurried" jumper. With 1:34 left should he take his time and hope the defense leaves him an open look? Probably not going to happen.

Sounds like you can't even make up your mind what you are criticizing him for.

And of course you don't address the fact that Dallas had multiple players hitting dunks, layups and 3s because you can't blame it all on Kawhi. Two of those layups/dunks were in the last two minutes.

:facepalm

You're trying way too hard.

Where does it say that taking over must include taking a jumper 5 seconds into the shotclock? :oldlol:

Besides, it was merely to make a point about your lie: that a Kawhi shot here or there couldn't have turned the outcome, because apparently they "got lit up". Turning a 5-point game into a 3-point game apparently wouldn't do anything, with 1.35 left.

And additional information for your incompetent ass: Teams do indeed play out shotclocks at that time left, waiting for a better look would have been the much better thing to do :facepalm

You're hopeless on all counts.

No shit those dunks came in the last minute. Kawhi didnt do shit the previous 7 minute, and so they had to play really high and double and got passed out.

But again to your eternal dodge:

If the exact same scenario plays out over and Kawhi re-peats his performance, what will be your take?

Even with your much acclaimed glorious "lighting up" Dallas offense :oldlol: and all that other good shit.

mehyaM24

05-24-2021, 05:36 PM

its only one game, but yes, kawhi should have been more aggressive. 1 point in the final 8 minutes is pretty weak.

ArbitraryWater

05-24-2021, 05:37 PM

its only one game, but yes, kawhi should have been more aggressive. 1 point in the final 8 minutes is pretty weak.

A sensible take.

tontoz

05-24-2021, 05:46 PM

He didn't play bad and he didn't choke so I am not going to criticize him for the same scenario.

Now if he actually has a bad game or chokes it away then yes I will criticize him for it like I have in the past.

I have no problem admitting that he wet the bed in game 7 vs Denver or that he shamelessly tanked to avoid the Lakers. Hbk will attest that I have criticized him repeatedly load management.

Buy it's a team game and I am not going to bury a guy when the other team clearly outplays his.

ArbitraryWater

05-25-2021, 01:48 PM

Where do you get the "clearly outplayed" from? :oldlol:

He didn't play bad and he didn't choke so I am not going to criticize him for the same scenario.

Now if he actually has a bad game or chokes it away then yes I will criticize him for it like I have in the past.

I have no problem admitting that he wet the bed in game 7 vs Denver or that he shamelessly tanked to avoid the Lakers. Hbk will attest that I have criticized him repeatedly load management.

Buy it's a team game and I am not going to bury a guy when the other team clearly outplays his.

If the exact same scenario plays out over and Kawhi re-peats his performance, what will be your take?

tontoz

05-25-2021, 02:00 PM

Where do you get the "clearly outplayed" from? :oldlol:

If the exact same scenario plays out over and Kawhi re-peats his performance, what will be your take?

Dallas won by 10 hence they clearly outplayed the Clippers. Not that complex.

How many times do i have to repeat the same answer?

He didn't play bad and he didn't choke so I am not going to criticize him for the same scenario.

.

Is it Kawhi's fault that Dallas had a bunch of layups and open 3s to end the game? I dont think so.

I would guess that Lue makes it a point to get Kawhi more looks late as opposed to Playoff P and Morris. Probably not a coincidence that Kawhi's shot at 1:34 was right after a time out.