James Harden made the playoffs with 24yo Parsons, 26yo Asik, 24yo Lin, 23yo Patterson

[Stanley Kobrick]

and that was with Patterson, Delfino and Morris out half the season. not a single scorer on the rockets averaged over 15ppg


stephen curry missed the playoffs with prime DPOY All-star Draymond, prime 20ppg Wiggins, prime 20ppg Oubre, 2nd overall 2020 pick and COTY steve kerr. really puts things into perspective

[welfarefan]

How many 50 point games in losses vs Mavs does he have that year?? let that sink in :oldlol:

[Axe]

Not to mention the whole world knows going 2-4 in the first round is much better than going 0-2 in the losers bracket first to lock in as either 7th/8th seed. :ohwell:

[Stanley Kobrick]

Not to mention the whole world knows going 2-4 in the first round is much better than going 0-2 in the losers bracket first to lock in as either 7th/8th seed. :ohwell:
well said, high IQ post from Axe as always :cheers:

[iamgine]

Parsons and Lin was pretty good back then though while Wiggins is not that good despite scoring 18 a game.

[Stanley Kobrick]

Parsons and Lin was pretty good back then though while Wiggins is not that good despite scoring 18 a game.
i don't remember Parsons or Lin ever being traded out of college for prime Kevin Love. how are Parsons and Lin doing today in the league?

[iamgine]

Today not as good as they were.

[Stanley Kobrick]

19, 5, 3 is better than Parson or Lin ever. Wiggins as a rookie was better than either ever as well. those universal facts. both drafted with Wiggins, neither are in the league anymore

[iamgine]

Number seems better but not as a player.

[Stanley Kobrick]

i use to believe in the easter bunny too, but facts remain facts. wiggins is a cornerstone piece who's retained more value than either parsons or lin since a rookie. and so has 3x all-star, 2x dpoy and olympian draymond green

[Axe]

well said, high IQ post from Axe as always :cheers:
:pimp:

Almost forgot the rockets did so as well with a worse coach in kevin mchale.

[Stanley Kobrick]

:pimp:

Almost forgot the rockets did so as well with a worse coach in kevin mchale.
mchale, another coach who is no longer in the league. similar to lin and parsons :( how was james able to achieve the playoffs and yet stephen curry not? really puts things into perspective

[Axe]

mchale, another coach who is no longer in the league. similar to lin and parsons :( how was james able to achieve the playoffs and yet stephen curry not? really puts things into perspective
Even more interesting is the fact that the rockets which were playing in a competitive conference barely missed the playoffs in the preceding season which was due to lockout that got it limited to 66 games.

[miggyme1]

Another shit thread. That rockets team was pretty good. Would of plowed through the eastern conference minus the miami heat. Team had 6 players that averaged over double figures in points and 8 players that averaged at least 8 points or better. Top 5 in free throw percentage AND in getting to the line and this is when harden actually played defense and him and pat Beverly use to give backcourts fits. That team was very balanced, they had a lot of 3 point shooters. Their downfall was turnovers....they led the league in turnovers that year. Hell curry would of made the playoffs this year if it wasnt for the play in tourney with a much worse roster.

[iamgine]

i use to believe in the easter bunny too, but facts remain facts. wiggins is a cornerstone piece who's retained more value than either parsons or lin since a rookie. and so has 3x all-star, 2x dpoy and olympian draymond green

Green sure, but not wiggins.

[Joey Turnbuckle]

well said, high IQ post from Axe as always :cheers:

Talking to your alt

[HoopsNY]

and that was with Patterson, Delfino and Morris out half the season. not a single scorer on the rockets averaged over 15ppg


stephen curry missed the playoffs with prime DPOY All-star Draymond, prime 20ppg Wiggins, prime 20ppg Oubre, 2nd overall 2020 pick and COTY steve kerr. really puts things into perspective

What a ridiculous assessment. Harden joined the Rockets in 2013 and the Rockets won 45 games. Steph had his team on a 48 win pace. You have to put context to fit the narrative. The league didn't have 82 games this season, they had 72 games, of which Steph played 63 of them. His team went 2-7 without him but 37-26 with him.

The next season, Harden had prime Dwight Howard. So if Draymond is being praised for being a 1 time DPOY winner back in 2017, then how about a prime Howard who not only won All-NBA honors in 2014, but was a 3x DPOY winner? Draymond wasn't an All-Star this year, but Howard surely was in 2014. I mean, Draymond hasn't been an All-Star in three years.

You're bringing up James Wiseman? I mean, really? Wiseman missed 33 games in a 72 game season. That's nearly half of the games.

And Oubre isn't a 20 PPG scorer. Furthermore, Oubre was garbage this year AND missed 17 games including the play in. Oubre averaged 15 PPG. lmao@20.

Wiggins didn't average 20 either. Bran stans continue to make things up on this forum and think no one is gonna check them.

[Stanley Kobrick]

Even more interesting is the fact that the rockets which were playing in a competitive conference barely missed the playoffs in the preceding season which was due to lockout that got it limited to 66 games.
very interesting indeed, always appreciate your high IQ posts as the majority on ISH do (2020 ROTY) :cheers:

[And1AllDay]

thats what you get when you dont do dumb shit like shimmy in the 1st quarter :(

[Axe]

Talking to your alt
Stfu kenny boi

[ImKobe]

That roster was deep as **** compared to what the Warriors have. Harden definitely had much more help on the offensive end. Lin, Asik and Parsons were legit in 2013, at least in the RS.

[Axe]

very interesting indeed, always appreciate your high IQ posts as the majority on ISH do (2020 ROTY) :cheers:
Really? I would say the same thing about you as well 2020 ish mvp. :bowdown:

[Stanley Kobrick]

thats what you get when you dont do dumb shit like shimmy in the 1st quarter :(
:cheers:

Really? I would say the same thing about you as well 2020 ish mvp. :bowdown:
:cheers:

[ralph_i_el]

Chandler Parsons was really good that year. Better than Wiggins at least. You just listed a bunch of good players entering their primes. Not really as great a point as you think. Asik had the best +/- of all the starters by a longshot, because he was a defensive stud. That was back when he actually defended pick and rolls at an elite level, and the Rockets just spammed PnR all game back at opponents with Harden and then Lin when Harden sat.

Fun young team that got smoked in the first round.

[tontoz]

and that was with Patterson, Delfino and Morris out half the season. not a single scorer on the rockets averaged over 15ppg


stephen curry missed the playoffs with prime DPOY All-star Draymond, prime 20ppg Wiggins, prime 20ppg Oubre, 2nd overall 2020 pick and COTY steve kerr. really puts things into perspective


Funny that this low IQ troll keeps talking about Wiseman and Oubre who haven't played in weeks.

"All-Star" Green averaged 7 ppg this year and 8 ppg last year. Couldn't even draw iron on a potential game winner when he was left wide open. Couldnt even make a basket against the Lakers in the first play in game. He did manage to make 6 turnovers though.

GS was 2-7 without Steph. One of those wins was against the Pels who were missing 4 starters. Their only starter was Bledsoe who played only 16 minutes. One of the losses was an epic 53 pt loss to the struggling Raps.

GS was 37-26 with Steph.

Seems like OP is more obsessed with Curry than any of the Warriors fans.

[LeCola]

What about Lebron missed with 18 PPG Ingram, 18 PPG Kuzma, 9/8/5 Rondo, 10/5/5 Lonzo, KCP, Mcgee, Zubac, Hart, Lance, Bullock, Chandler?

[Axe]

Funny that this low IQ troll keeps talking about Wiseman and Oubre who haven't played in weeks.

"All-Star" Green averaged 7 ppg this year and 8 ppg last year. Couldn't even draw iron on a potential game winner when he was left wide open. Couldnt even make a basket against the Lakers in the first play in game. He did manage to make 6 turnovers though.

GS was 2-7 without Steph. One of those wins was against the Pels who were missing 4 starters. Their only starter was Bledsoe who played only 16 minutes. One of the losses was an epic 53 pt loss to the struggling Raps.

GS was 37-26 with Steph.

Seems like OP is more obsessed with Curry than any of the Warriors fans.
You say 37-26 but why no playoff berth for this year? :ohwell:

[tontoz]

You say 37-26 but why no playoff berth for this year? :ohwell:

Primarily because they were ass when Curry was out.

Then there was the play in for the 2nd time in NBA history which put them against the defending champs.

Both games were tight but ultimately it's no biggie. They weren't going to make a playoff run but making the playoffs would have eliminated a talking point for witless Curry haters.

[HoopsNY]

Funny that this low IQ troll keeps talking about Wiseman and Oubre who haven't played in weeks.

"All-Star" Green averaged 7 ppg this year and 8 ppg last year. Couldn't even draw iron on a potential game winner when he was left wide open. Couldnt even make a basket against the Lakers in the first play in game. He did manage to make 6 turnovers though.

GS was 2-7 without Steph. One of those wins was against the Pels who were missing 4 starters. Their only starter was Bledsoe who played only 16 minutes. One of the losses was an epic 53 pt loss to the struggling Raps.

GS was 37-26 with Steph.

Seems like OP is more obsessed with Curry than any of the Warriors fans.

The arguments are regurgitated and devoid of any context.

Bran stans can't stand the fact that Curry took a team that won just 15 games last year to 39 this year, while having the team on a 48 win pace with him on the court. They consistently avoid that fact in their usual rants.

[FireDavidKahn]

33 year old LeBron has this current Warriors team in the Finals.

[FireDavidKahn]

Parsons and Lin was pretty good back then though while Wiggins is not that good despite scoring 18 a game.

:roll:

Warriors fans were pimping him out to be an all-NBA defender early in the year.

[FireDavidKahn]

Primarily because they were ass when Curry was out.

Then there was the play in for the 2nd time in NBA history which put them against the defending champs.

Both games were tight but ultimately it's no biggie. They weren't going to make a playoff run but making the playoffs would have eliminated a talking point for witless Curry haters.

Defending champs has no bearing on this year.

[Stanley Kobrick]

:roll:

Warriors fans were pimping him out to be an all-NBA defender early in the year.


Defending champs has no bearing on this year.
:cheers:

[And1AllDay]

What about Lebron missed with 18 PPG Ingram, 18 PPG Kuzma, 9/8/5 Rondo, 10/5/5 Lonzo, KCP, Mcgee, Zubac, Hart, Lance, Bullock, Chandler?

:roll::roll: oh no, not muh yung core :oldlol::oldlol: