Lebron is doing things to elite pro athletes that MJ couldnt do to a bank supervisor

[FultzNationRISE]

How do you guys feel about this? What does it say to you?

Feel free to share thoughts and opinions in this thread.

[Shooter]

Five

Stars :rockon:

[KirbyPls]

LeGoat makes world-class athletes look like the 90s Safeway NBA.

[3ball]

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SKILL RECAP


Post game - Jordan was called the best post player in the NBA (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SYsbx66LZbA&t=0m42s), while Lebron was never considered an elite post player

Jumpshooting - Jordan was called the best jumpshooter in the game by the goat talent evaluator (Jerry West - source here (https://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/showpost.php?p=57091082&postcount=15799)).. Furthermore, the stats show that Jordan's jumpshooting volume, efficiency, and production was unprecedented and goat, while Lebron's jumpshooting isn't elite (complete stats for both here (http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?492972-Which-finals-choke-was-worse-Wilt-1969-s-finals-or-Lebron-s-2011-finals&p=14312634&viewfull=1#post14312634)).. Lebron also defers/avoids contested jumpers (stats here (https://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/showpost.php?p=57091045&postcount=15797)), so his jumpshooting skill is manufactured by playing with multiple stars or 1b's (so he doesn't have to take contested jumpers).

Off-ball game - Jordan was goat off-ball, while Lebron is bad.. Jordan's off-ball ability included a goat drop-step (shown here (https://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/showpost.php?p=57078289&postcount=15706)) and goat jumpshooting production (link in jumpshooting section above), and goat quick-iso ability upon catching the ball (triple-threat).

On-ball game and passing - both Jordan and Lebron demonstrate elite production on-ball (NBC Sports reported that MJ averaged 32/8/9 in 41 games at point guard in his career (https://www.nbcsports.com/bayarea/warriors/why-michael-jordan-shouldve-been-point-guard-according-don-nelson))... Jordan also had the goat hop-step or jump-stop, which are common off-the-dribble finishing techniques (shown here (https://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/showpost.php?p=57091073&postcount=15798)).. More importantly, Jordan could average 6 to 11 apg without playing PG or bringing the ball up court (he's the only player to average 10 apg in a series without playing PG, aka 1991 Finals).

Team Assists/Ball Movement/Strategy/Brand of Ball/Organic Ability - Jordan's elite jumpshooting skill and off-ball production allowed the best fit with teammates and the best strategy/ball movement, while Lebron's ball-dominance does the opposite (poor teammate fits and low strategy/ball movement).. Furthermore, high scoring from Lebron equals dribble-heavy rim attacks, so he can't win with high scoring (never won outside the 1st round with 35+), while Jordan's jumpshooting allowed ball movement, and therefore won at high scoring or volumes.

Defense - Jordan was top 5 DPOY from 88-98' (and scoring champ), while Lebron hasn't been all-defense in 8 years.

Clutch - Jordan is the goat clutch player by far and led the NBA in clutch points every year (last 5 within 5), while Lebron hasn't hit a winning or tying shot in 10 Finals and frequently had poor clutch stats (and he was a turnover machine).. Complete clutch stats for Lebron and Jordan are shown in the post above (link here (http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?492972-Which-finals-choke-was-worse-Wilt-1969-s-finals-or-Lebron-s-2011-finals&p=14312629&viewfull=1#post14312629)).

[ShawkFactory]

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SKILL RECAP


Post game - Jordan was called the best post player in the NBA (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SYsbx66LZbA&t=0m42s), while Lebron was never considered an elite post player

Jumpshooting - Jordan was called the best jumpshooter in the game by the goat talent evaluator (Jerry West - source here (https://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/showpost.php?p=57091082&postcount=15799)).. Furthermore, the stats show that Jordan's jumpshooting volume, efficiency, and production was unprecedented and goat, while Lebron's jumpshooting isn't elite (complete stats for both here (http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?492972-Which-finals-choke-was-worse-Wilt-1969-s-finals-or-Lebron-s-2011-finals&p=14312634&viewfull=1#post14312634)).. Lebron also defers/avoids contested jumpers (stats here (https://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/showpost.php?p=57091045&postcount=15797)), so his jumpshooting skill is manufactured by playing with multiple stars or 1b's (so he doesn't have to take contested jumpers).

Off-ball game - Jordan was goat off-ball, while Lebron is bad.. Jordan's off-ball ability included a goat drop-step (shown here (https://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/showpost.php?p=57078289&postcount=15706)) and goat jumpshooting production (link in jumpshooting section above), and goat quick-iso ability upon catching the ball (triple-threat).

On-ball game and passing - both Jordan and Lebron demonstrate elite production on-ball (NBC Sports reported that MJ averaged 32/8/9 in 41 games at point guard in his career (https://www.nbcsports.com/bayarea/warriors/why-michael-jordan-shouldve-been-point-guard-according-don-nelson))... Jordan also had the goat hop-step or jump-stop, which are common off-the-dribble finishing techniques (shown here (https://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/showpost.php?p=57091073&postcount=15798)).. More importantly, Jordan could average 6 to 11 apg without playing PG or bringing the ball up court (he's the only player to average 10 apg in a series without playing PG, aka 1991 Finals).

Team Assists/Ball Movement/Strategy/Brand of Ball/Organic Ability - Jordan's elite jumpshooting skill and off-ball production allowed the best fit with teammates and the best strategy/ball movement, while Lebron's ball-dominance does the opposite (poor teammate fits and low strategy/ball movement).. Furthermore, high scoring from Lebron equals dribble-heavy rim attacks, so he can't win with high scoring (never won outside the 1st round with 35+), while Jordan's jumpshooting allowed ball movement, and therefore won at high scoring or volumes.

Defense - Jordan was top 5 DPOY from 88-98' (and scoring champ), while Lebron hasn't been all-defense in 8 years.

Clutch - Jordan is the goat clutch player by far and led the NBA in clutch points every year (last 5 within 5), while Lebron hasn't hit a winning or tying shot in 10 Finals and frequently had poor clutch stats (and he was a turnover machine).. Complete clutch stats for Lebron and Jordan are shown in the post above (link here (http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?492972-Which-finals-choke-was-worse-Wilt-1969-s-finals-or-Lebron-s-2011-finals&p=14312629&viewfull=1#post14312629)).

It would really ease my second-hand anxiety for you if you already had this saved in some archive somewhere.

[3ball]

It would really ease my second-hand anxiety for you if you already had this saved in some archive somewhere.


Lebron was never called the best post player.

Jordan was

Lebron was never called the best jumpshooter.

Jordan was

Lebron was never elite off 2 feet

Jordan was


Previous post has links for all this and more

[DABIGSALSISHA]

LeWHO???


the 4/20 guy ?

[outofstomach]

It would really ease my second-hand anxiety for you if you already had this saved in some archive somewhere.

:lol :lol :lol

[Airupthere]

Lebron has the size/athleticism combination in a league that allows him to bulldoze defenders and the defenders arent allowed to give the slighest amount of resistance otherwise, its a foul. Otherwise, lebron has a basic game. Ugly form too.

[Shooter]

LeWHO???


the 4/20 guy ?

MJ is 6/20 :lol

No extra credit earned for quitting before 20 seaoans

Sorry :lol

[2much_knowledge]

Another garbage thread. Great job guys

[kawhileonard2]

Like win 1 title in 11 years for the franchise that drafted you despite forming a superteam and getting a guy suspended when down 3-1. Yeah you right about that.:oldlol: