Ja Morant drops 47-7-4. He is for real folks.

[ELITEpower23]

Ja MF Morrant has arrived. Playoff Ja.

[highwhey]

now that is an iconic playoff moment

[Hamtaro CP3KDKG]

Ja VS Zion
Trae VS Luka

some great draft rivalries...

[Stanley Kobrick]

now that is an iconic playoff moment
:cheers:

[ZionDunks]

Dude is like iverson

[imdaman99]

That shot he puts up in the lane is unguardable. He speeds past someone and gathers and floats it in. Kid is special, he proved it in the last 3 games.

[Xiao Yao You]

Dude is like iverson

15-26 and 45% on the year is not very AI like

[Axe]

now that is an iconic playoff moment
I don't like him but i do agree with this

[ZionDunks]

15-26 and 45% on the year is not very AI like

Iverson shooting % was .412 and .416 in years 1 and 3.

They’re similar , the game is different

[LAL]

Iverson shooting % was .412 and .416 in years 1 and 3.

They’re similar , the game is different
AI?

Little zion fan already trying to bring his rivals down. A look into the future right here.

[ImKobe]

15-26 and 45% on the year is not very AI like

You have to adjust for the era, and 2nd year Morant was below league average in scoring efficiency.
Morant: 19.1 ppg 44.9%FG/53.7%TS
League average for this season was 46.6%FG/57.2%TS.

Iverson in his 2nd season averaged 22 ppg on 46.1%FG/53.5%TS%, the league average was 45%FG/52.4%TS.

[miggyme1]

Oh god here we go with the AI vs (insert your fave guard) debate. Smh AI was one of a kind,idk why we have to compare others to him. Ja is a hell of a player and barring injuries he is going to have an illustrious career but even if he goes on to win 10 rings and 5 MVPs he still wont be AI. I dont think people understand how special AI was.....he went number 1 in a draft that is considered the best draft of all time and he was barely 6 feet. Just stop the comparisons.

[tanibanana]

Ja VS Zion
Trae VS Luka

some great draft rivalries...

Another narrative (class rivalry), which draft is better Luka/Trae vs Ja/Zion

[90sgoat]

15-26 and 45% on the year is not very AI like

AI would be way more efficient today.

[tontoz]

I don't like him but i do agree with this

Why is it iconic? They lost.

What specific moment was iconic? Getting the foul line 20 times?

[ELITEpower23]

AI would be way more efficient today.

With even better perimeter defense and him being forced to take more 3s? I'm not so sure of that.

[ELITEpower23]

AI?

Little zion fan already trying to bring his rivals down. A look into the future right here.

You hate to see it.

Ja is only 21 and out here killing it in his 1st playoff series. The kid is special.

[tontoz]

You hate to see it.

Ja is only 21 and out here killing it in his 1st playoff series. The kid is special.

In fairness Morant's 3 pt% is almost identical to Iverson's.

However he is more unselfish and a much better playmaker than AI.

[PeroAntic]

Ja has studied those DRose tapes meticulously. Its clear from his game that hes Derrick's disciple.

[Axe]

Ja has studied those DRose tapes meticulously. Its clear from his game that hes Derrick's disciple.
Yea there's some piece of truth to that.

[ClipperRevival]

Oh god here we go with the AI vs (insert your fave guard) debate. Smh AI was one of a kind,idk why we have to compare others to him. Ja is a hell of a player and barring injuries he is going to have an illustrious career but even if he goes on to win 10 rings and 5 MVPs he still wont be AI. I dont think people understand how special AI was.....he went number 1 in a draft that is considered the best draft of all time and he was barely 6 feet. Just stop the comparisons.

And I don't think you're giving Ja enough credit either. Athletically, he is tier 1. He's in that MJ, Zion, LeBron class. He is like 6'3" but routinely gets his head at rim level, which is unreal. And he's got the competitive nature to him too. If his skills continue to improve, the sky is the limit for a guy with this much athleticism.

He might never be as good as AI but to say with certainty Ja has no chance to be at his level or eclipse AI isn't fair either.

[Xiao Yao You]

And I don't think you're giving Ja enough credit either. Athletically, he is tier 1. He's in that MJ, Zion, LeBron class. He is like 6'3" but routinely gets his head at rim level, which is unreal. And he's got the competitive nature to him too. If his skills continue to improve, the sky is the limit for a guy with this much athleticism.

He might never be as good as AI but to say with certainty Ja has no chance to be at his level or eclipse AI isn't fair either.

I'd take him over AI any day. Better play maker. Been hitting 3's to end the year. His team that should be tanking has been competitive since he joined them. Will have to get better at FT's and D of course

[Axe]

Why is it iconic? They lost.

What specific moment was iconic? Getting the foul line 20 times?
I mean he did the feat without being on a stacked team.

[tontoz]

I mean he did the feat without being on a stacked team.


Steph dropped 44/11 on the 2 seed Spurs in the playoffs way back in 2013 in a 2 pt loss. Draymond was averaging 2.9 in 13 minutes off the bench. Klay was in his second season averaging 16.6 ppg.

Their other starters were David Lee, Jarret Jack and Harrison Barnes.

Why isn't that iconic?

[Xiao Yao You]

Steph dropped 44/11 on the 2 seed Spurs in the playoffs way back in 2013 in a 2 pt loss. Draymond was averaging 2.9 in 13 minutes off the bench. Klay was in his second season averaging 16.6 ppg.

Their other starters were David Lee, Jarret Jack and Harrison Barnes.

Why isn't that iconic?

It probably was on ISH

[AlternativeAcc.]

Steph dropped 44/11 on the 2 seed Spurs in the playoffs way back in 2013 in a 2 pt loss. Draymond was averaging 2.9 in 13 minutes off the bench. Klay was in his second season averaging 16.6 ppg.

Their other starters were David Lee, Jarret Jack and Harrison Barnes.

Why isn't that iconic?

He dropped 44/11 and still wound up averaging only 22 on 40% in 42 mpg?

:roll:

God curry ****ing sucks lol

And that was what, his 5th season to morants 2nd?

Curry isn't good, never has been

[ClipperRevival]

He dropped 44/11 and still wound up averaging only 22 on 40% in 42 mpg?

:roll:

God curry ****ing sucks lol

And that was what, his 5th season to morants 2nd?

Curry isn't good, never has been

The eternal dilemma for Bron fans.

Boast that Bron beat the GOAT 73 win team but always sh*t on that team's best player.:yaohappy:

Pick a side.

[tontoz]

The eternal dilemma for Bron fans.

Boast that Bron beat the GOAT 73 win team but always sh*t on that team's best player.:yaohappy:

Pick a side.


:roll:


Bron stans are so clueless.

[ClipperRevival]

:roll:


Bron stans are so clueless.

:roll:

[Shooter]

The eternal dilemma for Bron fans.

Boast that Bron beat the GOAT 73 win team but always sh*t on that team's best player.:yaohappy:

Pick a side.

Curry BUZZSAWED the entire Western Conference

5 years (2015, 2016, 2017, 2018, 2019)
15 Western playoff Series

He went 15-0

LeBron was the only reason Curry didn't 4peat

[ClipperRevival]

You don't see MJ fans sh*t on Bird's Celtics or the Bad Boys Pistons because they were legit GOAT tier teams. Ditto for Magic's Lakers, Barkley's Sun's, Ewing's Knicks, Shaq's Magic, Payton/Kemp Sonics, Drexler's Blazers, Malone/Stockton Jazz, Mourning's Heat and Hornets, Miller's Pacers, etc.

Who did Bron beat coming out East? Hibbert's Pacers, Horford's Hawks, Derozan's Raps, etc?:yaohappy:

[3ball]

Curry BUZZSAWED the entire Western Conference

5 years (2015, 2016, 2017, 2018, 2019)
15 Western playoff Series

He went 15-0

LeBron was the only reason Curry didn't 4peat


Lebron's super-teams dominated the East from 2011-2018, so Lebron's teams dominated their conference more than Curry's and were the preseason league favorite from 2011-2016






LeBron was the only reason Curry didn't 4peat





Klay was a first-time all-star in 2015 and the Warriors surprised everyone - they simply weren't a super-team until KD got there.

So Lebron was the only super-team and he never beat a super-team - he literally hand-picked the pre-season favorite from 2011-2016.

But carry on the false narrative that Lebron faced super-teams - he only faced super-teams when KD decided to catch up to Lebron by forming a super-team.. He was only catching up to where Lebron had already been since the "decision" in 2011.

[RRR3]

You don't see MJ fans sh*t on Bird's Celtics or the Bad Boys Pistons because they were legit GOAT tier teams. Ditto for Magic's Lakers, Barkley's Sun's, Ewing's Knicks, Shaq's Magic, Payton/Kemp Sonics, Drexler's Blazers, Malone/Stockton Jazz, Mourning's Heat and Hornets, Miller's Pacers, etc.

Who did Bron beat coming out East? Hibbert's Pacers, Horford's Hawks, Derozan's Raps, etc?:yaohappy:
:roll: :roll: :roll:

[AlternativeAcc.]

The eternal dilemma for Bron fans.

Boast that Bron beat the GOAT 73 win team but always sh*t on that team's best player.:yaohappy:

Pick a side.

They won a record 73 games and curry sucks

Both statements can be true

Good job making me cringe though little guy. Cute attention grab

[SouBeachTalents]

Only took until the 3rd page for this to completely derail into a LeBron thread :applause:

[3ball]

:roll: :roll: :roll:


Klay was a first-time all-star in 2015 and the Warriors surprised everyone - they simply weren't a super-team until KD got there.

So Lebron was the only super-team and he never beat a super-team - he literally hand-picked the pre-season favorite from 2011-2016.

[3ball]

Only took until the 3rd page for this to completely derail into a LeBron thread :applause:


It's because you guys lie about Lebron so much

Only Lebron had a super-team from 2011-2016... That's just a fact, but the historical record gets changed by the media and fans

[ClipperRevival]

:roll: :roll: :roll:

I worded it wrong. Obviously, I didn't mean all were GOAT tier teams.

[2ball]

It's because you guys lie about Lebron so much

Only Lebron had a super-team from 2011-2016... That's just a fact, but the historical record gets changed by the media and fans

73 win warriors are not a super team?

[3ball]

I worded it wrong. Obviously, I didn't mean all were GOAT tier teams.


Don't sweat the liars like RRR3, SouBeach, or the media

It's okay that Jordan faced 2-star teams because his own team was only a 2-star team..

Furthermore, the 91' Lakers and 92' Blazers had better team defenses than the Bulls and far more scorers - they simply had better casts than the Bulls..

The 96' Sonics or 93' Suns were even more stacked offensively with far more scorers, and nearly the same ranked defense.. So these teams had better casts than the Bulls too..

Only the Jazz had arguably worse talent (but they had a Spurs-like brand that demolished Shaq, Hakeem and Duncan).

People forget that the 88' and 89' Bulls were considered the biggest 1-man team in history, and those are the same rosters that 3-peated - so Jordan should get credit for carrying a non-elite cast, but instead people assume the Bulls were stacked because they won so much..

[Shooter]

Lebron's super-teams dominated the East from 2011-2018, so Lebron's teams dominated their conference more than Curry's and were the preseason league favorite from 2011-2016


Um yeah, LeBron is pretty good...He's literally the greatest of all time. So what's your point? :lol



Klay was a first-time all-star in 2015 and the Warriors surprised everyone - they simply weren't a super-team until KD got there.

False. They still went 6-0 vs all Western teams in 2015 and 2016. Try again, slick




So Lebron was the only super-team and he never beat a super-team - he literally hand-picked the pre-season favorite from 2011-2016.

False. Pure idiocy.

[Shooter]

Only took until the 3rd page for this to completely derail into a LeBron thread :applause:

He's a LeBron fan. 100% serious. HE HAS TO BE at this rate.

[RRR3]

smack slurp MJ!!!! MJ!!!!! MJ!!!!!!
:biggums:

[tontoz]

What's sad is that MJ is my favorite player ever but i am sick of seeing his name brought up over and over and over. He retired almost 20 years ago. Let it go FFS.

[WhiteKyrie]

15-26 and 45% on the year is not very AI like
Iverson put up 26 on 44% in 2007.

And 26 ppg on 46% in 2008.

That is finally playing with offensive help to distract a defense. In a much softer league that limited perimeter physicality.

Also, that was past prime Iverson at 31 and 32 years old. The very next season he was all but done.

You are comparing his efficiency numbers to a time when the scoring climate was extremely difficult and way more physical. You are being disingenuous. Or retarded. Or both. Considering your perspective on Allen Iverson typically.

[ClipperRevival]

Guys, let's not hijack OPs thread and let's go back to the topic at hand.

[Xiao Yao You]

Iverson put up 26 on 44% in 2007.

And 26 ppg on 46% in 2008.

That is finally playing with offensive help to distract a defense. In a much softer league that limited perimeter physicality.

Also, that was past prime Iverson at 31 and 32 years old. The very next season he was all but done.

You are comparing his efficiency numbers to a time when the scoring climate was extremely difficult and way more physical. You are being disingenuous. Or retarded. Or both. Considering your perspective on Allen Iverson typically.

It was playing without hand checking

[2ball]

What’s interesting is when MJ did the same thing he would win

[Shooter]

Iverson put up 26 on 44% in 2007.

And 26 ppg on 46% in 2008.

That is finally playing with offensive help to distract a defense. In a much softer league that limited perimeter physicality.

Also, that was past prime Iverson at 31 and 32 years old. The very next season he was all but done.

You are comparing his efficiency numbers to a time when the scoring climate was extremely difficult and way more physical. You are being disingenuous. Or retarded. Or both. Considering your perspective on Allen Iverson typically.

No he didn't you're an idiot liar. Obviosly a 3ball alt, since he's the only one that lies about stats.

Here are some facts of AI:
• His playoff avg FG% is .401% :lol
• Even in his 1st rund exit playoff runs (aka MJ 1-9 runs) he NEVER shot above .468%. Never hit 47%
•In ALL of his regualr seasons he averaged .425% :lol
• He never shot above .461% in his entire career

Can we ban this fakkit already for blatant lying?

[WhiteKyrie]

It was playing without hand checking

Precisely. So why are you holding Iverson’s efficiency numbers in a much more physical league pre-hand check rule of 2006 … AGAINST him by comparison to modern players who don’t deal with ANY damn physicality?

[Shooter]

What’s interesting is when MJ did the same thing he would win

If Iverson was 6 inches taller and had Pippen..

MJ was Iverson before Iverson. Thing is, MJ got lucky with more height and an all-time perimeter player in Pippen.

[WhiteKyrie]

If Iverson was 6 inches taller and had Pippen..

That’s like saying if LeBron wasn’t a chicken shit and also had a jumper or could play defense then he wouldn’t need the 3rd best PER player of all time or at minimum 2 all stars by his side … and wouldn’t be a measly 4 for 10 in the Finals. If and buts we’re candy and nuts, we’d all have a Merry Christmas. Retard.

[Shooter]

That’s like saying if LeBron wasn’t a ***** and also had a jumper or could play defense then he wouldn’t need the 3rd best PER player of all time … and wouldn’t be a measly 4 for 10 in the Finals. If and buts we’re candy and nuts, we’d all have a Merry Christmas. Retard.

MJ was Iverson before Iverson

Get it now?

[3ball]

73 win warriors are not a super team?


Super-teams are determined before the season starts because they're based on the talent and expectation - everyone knew the current Nets or Lebron's Heat were a super-team before the season started.. So super-teams aren't determined after the fact like you're doing - you're simply looking at teams that did well in the regular season and slapping the super-team label on them, without considering whether they exceeded expectation or have sufficient talent to be a super-team.




73 win warriors are not a super team?


Hell no because Klay was a first-time all-star in 2015 and the Warriors surprised everyone - they simply weren't a super-team until KD got there.. And Dray kind of sucks

So Lebron was the only super-team and he never beat a super-team - he literally hand-picked the pre-season favorite from 2011-2016.




73 win warriors are not a super team?


By your logic, the 2009 Cavs won 66 games, so they're a super-team and better than the 18' Warriors, 01' Lakers, 90's Bulls and many other champions that didn't win 66 games.

Ultimately, teams often overachieve their talent and you aren't giving any credit to that - so the 09' Cavs were a super-team by your logic and not a function of Lebron's dominance or unique chemistry with Mo.

Similarly, the 88' and 89' Bulls were considered the biggest 1-man team in history, yet they had the exact same roster as the 3-peat Bulls - so those teams weren't super-teams and people mistakenly call them a super-team after the fact just because they won so much..

[Shooter]

The eternal dilemma for Bron fans.

Boast that Bron beat the GOAT 73 win team but always sh*t on that team's best player.:yaohappy:

Pick a side.


Guys, let's not hijack OPs thread and let's go back to the topic at hand.

3ball has no shame.

[3ball]

3ball has no shame.


The Lebron talk was started by another poster that lied about Lebron (they said he beat a super-team which means nothing because lebron had his own super-team.. and the pre-KD warriors were a surprise and not a super-team, while Kyrie was an equal partner that played on Wilt's level)

So when someone lies, it should be corrected

[Xiao Yao You]

Precisely. So why are you holding Iverson’s efficiency numbers in a much more physical league pre-hand check rule of 2006 … AGAINST him by comparison to modern players who don’t deal with ANY damn physicality?

because he was a gunner

[8Ball]

You don't see MJ fans sh*t on Bird's Celtics or the Bad Boys Pistons because they were legit GOAT tier teams. Ditto for Magic's Lakers, Barkley's Sun's, Ewing's Knicks, Shaq's Magic, Payton/Kemp Sonics, Drexler's Blazers, Malone/Stockton Jazz, Mourning's Heat and Hornets, Miller's Pacers, etc.

Who did Bron beat coming out East? Hibbert's Pacers, Horford's Hawks, Derozan's Raps, etc?:yaohappy:

All the 90s teams Jordan faced (all of them) are bottom 25% all time finals opponents.

[Axe]

Guys, let's not hijack OPs thread and let's go back to the topic at hand.
Yeah poor slick. :(

[Sportal]

I saw the box-score and just HAD to watch the highlights. The kid has that mentality, he is scared of nothing, he goes for whatever he wants... See him try to dunk on Gobert? LMAO, he was so high. I think he's great, and I think he will just keep getting better due to how I feel he is mentally.

I think I'm excited about him because he has that D.Rose aura? We really missed out on D.Rose, and I'd like to think I was speaking for everyone where I've just been waiting for something close to Rose again. Like... What is he gonna do next? OH, crazy lay-up, sick dunk, mean handles... Y'know...

[tontoz]

He has a lot of crazy finishes inside but he also is a respectable playmaker and can play unselfishly.

His J is pretty shaky though.

[miggyme1]

And I don't think you're giving Ja enough credit either. Athletically, he is tier 1. He's in that MJ, Zion, LeBron class. He is like 6'3" but routinely gets his head at rim level, which is unreal. And he's got the competitive nature to him too. If his skills continue to improve, the sky is the limit for a guy with this much athleticism.

He might never be as good as AI but to say with certainty Ja has no chance to be at his level or eclipse AI isn't fair either.


Never said he cant be at AI’s level....i said” HE WILL NEVER BE AI”....what are u not comprehending?

[PeroAntic]

He has a lot of crazy finishes inside but he also is a respectable playmaker and can play unselfishly.

His J is pretty shaky though.

He has the best combo of putting person in jail + floater in the league.

[Taurus]

And only 21 years old, the sky is the limit for this guy

[Wally450]

We praising these numbers in a loss?

[Xiao Yao You]

We praising these numbers in a loss?

It's ISH. All about the numbers!

[Shooter]

It's ISH. All about the numbers!

Nope, no one cares about the $tats

Wins or nothing

[Xiao Yao You]

Nope, no one cares about the $tats

Wins or nothing

this thread proof of that

[ELITEpower23]

Are we still waiting on Curry's iconic moment or did he have one in 2021?

[Axe]

Are we still waiting on Curry's iconic moment or did he have one in 2021?
I doubt b2b 35+ point games in the losers bracket without Ws would count as iconic.