MJ made 2nd Rd with an 8 ppg rookie, while Lebron needed a 2-time all-star center and

[3ball]

an all-defender acquisition, along with the future COY (top defenses and rebounding teams).

So Jordan led an undecorated cast of role players to the playoffs and deep runs, while Lebron needed teammates with all-star and all-defender resumes to make the playoffs (in a conference that 1-star teams were winning)

[1987_Lakers]

Tatum was able to get a win and drop 50 points on a historically stacked team while MJ went 0-6 when he went up against the Bird-McHale-Parish-DJ super team.

[Shooter]

Tatum was able to get a win and drop 50 points on a historically stacked team while MJ went 0-6 when he went up against the Bird-McHale-Parish-DJ super team.

[3ball]

Tatum was able to get a win and drop 50 points on a historically stacked team while MJ went 0-6 when he went up against the Bird-McHale-Parish-DJ super team.


Jordan dropped 63 and took the goat team and #1 defense to double OT (86' Celtics).

And anyone can drop 50 in today's game..

Whereas Jordan used to drop 47, 46, and 42 against the Bad Boys when the pace was only 85 (not 98 like Tatum's game), and when the Bulls only scored 97 points (not 125 like the Tatum's Celtics)

https://www.basketball-reference.com/boxscores/198905270CHI.html

[AirBonner]

Tatum essentially beat a team better than the 86 Celtics singlehandedly

[Axe]

50 points in a win?

Or

63 points in a loss?

The choice is yours.

[1987_Lakers]

50 points in a win?

Or

63 points in double OT and a loss?

The choice is yours.

fixed

[3ball]

Tatum essentially beat a team better than the 86 Celtics singlehandedly


Jordan dropped 46 of 99 points against the Bad Boys, including the game-winner over Rodman

That's better than Tatum's 50 of 125 points against the Nets matadors

[RRR3]

Jordan dropped 46 of 99 points against the Bad Boys, including the game-winner over Rodman

That's better than Tatum's 50 of 125 points against the Nets matadors
Tatum has no help. MJ had Pippen and Grant.

[3ball]

Tatum has no help. MJ had Pippen and Grant.


89' Pippen was a role player that averaged 14/6/3 in the regular season and 10 on 40% in that series

So he would be Tatum's 6th option behind Brown, Smart, Kemba, Fournier, and Tristan Thompson..

[RRR3]

Pippen was a role player that averaged 14/6/3 in the regular season and 10 on 40% in that series

So he would be Tatum's 6th option behind Brown, Smart, Kemba, Fournier, and Tristan Thompson.. Maybe he would be ahead of Tristan and Fournier, but not stars like Brown, Smart or Kemba
:roll: :roll: :roll:



Pippen sucked but Marcus Smart is a star!





:yaohappy:









3braincells strikes again.

[Axe]

89' Pippen was a role player that averaged 14/6/3 in the regular season and 10 on 40% in that series

So he would be Tatum's 6th option behind Brown, Smart, Kemba, Fournier, and Tristan Thompson..
Essential role player who became a key in overcoming his 1-9 skidmark, yes.

[3ball]

:roll: :roll: :roll:



Pippen sucked but Marcus Smart is a star!





:yaohappy:









3braincells strikes again.


89' Pippen was a role player - can you understand that?

He was literally a spot (liability) that opponents exploited - he averaged 14/6/3 in the regular season and 10 on 40% in that series

So he would be Tatum's 6th option behind Brown, Smart, Kemba, Fournier, and Tristan Thompson..

I just looked up Fournier and saw that he's a 19 ppg veteran who averaged 17 ppg this year - that destroys 89' Pippen... :facepalm:

[DABIGSALSISHA]

Hi,

My name is Lebron James and I have a problem:

I just don't know how to win championships. I keep passing and passing the ball , creating turnovers in games 5, 6, and 7 of the playoffs.

My Doc. prescribed me medications but it has been happenning to me for almost 20 years now. I just can't win finals, repeat, threepeat, etc.

Anyways,

I just thought i would share, since I need weaker competition to achieve my goals with PEDs while stat padding often.
I tried flopping but still didn't work in the finals, you know they have the video thing now.
I tried calling M.J and the phone rang 6 times but he didn't pick up....

Don't know what to do with my insecurities,

Time is running low but i just keep losing ,

Sincerely,

LBJ.

LaBrick Join.

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[Spurs m8]

hi,

my name is lebron james and i have a problem:

I just don't know how to win championships. I keep passing and passing the ball , creating turnovers in games 5, 6, and 7 of the playoffs.

My doc. Prescribed me medications but it has been happenning to me for almost 20 years now. I just can't win finals, repeat, threepeat, etc.

Anyways,

i just thought i would share, since i need weaker competition to achieve my goals with peds while stat padding often.
I tried flopping but still didn't work in the finals, you know they have the video thing now.
I tried calling m.j and the phone rang 6 times but he didn't pick up....

Don't know what to do with my insecurities,

time is running low but i just keep losing ,

sincerely,

lbj.

Labrick join.

https://i.gifer.com/vkp1.gif
https://img.huffingtonpost.com/asset/5741126c1600002a00f94193.gif?ops=scalefit_630_noup scale

wheres my damn respect? :lebroncry::lebroncry::lebroncry:

[DABIGSALSISHA]

wheres my damn respect? :lebroncry::lebroncry::lebroncry:

In the sewage, or trash can,

WHERE HE BELONGS

"Man" has no honor.

https://aquadoc.typepad.com/.a/6a00d8341bf80a53ef0134855be793970c-320wi

[8Ball]

an all-defender acquisition, along with the future COY (top defenses and rebounding teams).

So Jordan led an undecorated cast of role players to the playoffs and deep runs, while Lebron needed teammates with all-star and all-defender resumes to make the playoffs (in a conference that 1-star teams were winning)

Tatum was able to get a win and drop 50 points on a historically stacked team while MJ went 0-6 when he went up against the Bird-McHale-Parish-DJ super team.

[And1AllDay]

Tatum was able to get a win and drop 50 points on a historically stacked team while MJ went 0-6 when he went up against the Bird-McHale-Parish-DJ super team.

[Ainosterhaspie]

Jordan had four teammates outscore Pippen that season and another match him since OP is talking about regular season scoring which doesn't have anything to do with the first round win. In the first round, which is actually relevant, Pippen was at 10.6 PPG just behind Grant at 10.8.

At the end of the day though, this is no more impressive a win than LeBron sweeping the four all-star Hawks missing his second best supporting player, with his best supporting player missing two of the four games. Regular season overachieving ensemble casts just aren't what they appear to be on the surface and are routinely exposed come post season.

[ShawkFactory]

Wasn’t Jordan 26 before he won a playoff series?

And didn’t he also need a future COTY (literally HOF coach) to do it too?

[tpols]

When the Lakers win they win because of Kareem. They literally only win when he plays well.

[ShawkFactory]

When the Lakers win they win because of Kareem. They literally only win when he plays well.

You’re implying then that he sometimes doesn’t play well and they lose.

In which case..comparing him to a Mount Rushmore basketball player doesn’t really work.

[Hey Yo]

How come that Cavs all-star center could only win 17gms in 2003? Yet Pippen, with the same role, was able to win 55gms.

[3ball]

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Thread Cliffs


Rookie Pippen was an 8 ppg liability that MJ carried to the 2nd Round and ECF, while Lebron needed a 2-time all-star center to make the 06' Playoffs, along with a 22/5/5 acquisition and the future COY.

So Lebron always enjoyed high seeds and teammates with all-star resumes in a conference that 1-star teams were winning, while Jordan had deep runs with low seeds and undecorated role players in a conference that required a super-team to win it.

[SouBeachTalents]

When the Lakers win they win because of Kareem. They literally only win when he plays well.
Kareem's teams didn't win shit until he went to the Lakers, regardless of how well he played :lol

[And1AllDay]

an all-defender acquisition, along with the future COY (top defenses and rebounding teams).

So Jordan led an undecorated cast of role players to the playoffs and deep runs, while Lebron needed teammates with all-star and all-defender resumes to make the playoffs (in a conference that 1-star teams were winning)

Modern fans lost a lot of appreciation for what basketball really is once sports center came along and made a recap 4 dunks and 6 threes. So I don’t blame you. We failed you. We let your whole generation come up thinking basketball is points.

It’s the miseducation of an entire generation by the media and I really should focus my annoyance where it belongs.

You were never taught the game really. You will never understand a Pippen, Derek Mckey, Nate Mcmillian or guys like that who changed entire games and series with intelligence, communication, and imposing their will on defense.

[light]

an all-defender acquisition, along with the future COY (top defenses and rebounding teams).

So Jordan led an undecorated cast of role players to the playoffs and deep runs, while Lebron needed teammates with all-star and all-defender resumes to make the playoffs (in a conference that 1-star teams were winning)

Scottie Pippen and LeBron James were the defensive quarterbacks on 10 championship teams. Jordan was the defensive quarterback on 0 championship teams. lol.

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[2much_knowledge]

Tatum was able to get a win and drop 50 points on a historically stacked team while MJ went 0-6 when he went up against the Bird-McHale-Parish-DJ super team.

Now yall hide behind tatum to save image for bran lol?

Lol at comparing a 3 time champ, established team with a team just months together and haven't won shit. Nice job


And lol even more to those fools who piggyback on a weak take

[And1AllDay]

Scottie Pippen and LeBron James were the defensive quarterbacks on 10 championship teams. Jordan was the defensive quarterback on 0 championship teams. lol.

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[3ball]

Modern fans lost a lot of appreciation for what basketball really is once sports center came along and made a recap 4 dunks and 6 threes. So I don’t blame you. We failed you. We let your whole generation come up thinking basketball is points.

It’s the miseducation of an entire generation by the media and I really should focus my annoyance where it belongs.

You were never taught the game really. You will never understand a Pippen, Derek Mckey, Nate Mcmillian or guys like that who changed entire games and series with intelligence, communication, and imposing their will on defense.


Rookie Pippen was an 8 ppg liability that MJ carried to the 2nd Round and ECF, while Lebron needed a 2-time all-star center to make the 06' Playoffs, along with a 22/5/5 acquisition and the future COY.

So Lebron always enjoyed high seeds and teammates with all-star resumes in a conference that 1-star teams were winning, while Jordan had deep runs with low seeds and undecorated role players in a conference that required a super-team to win it.







It's the miseducation of today's generation





2004 Cavs.... NO ALL-STARS

2005 Cavs.... LEBRON/ZYDRUNAS BECOME ALL-STARS

2006 Cavs.... LEBRON/ZYDRUNUS ACQUIRE ALL-DEFENDER HUGHES AND THE FUTURE COY (TOP DEFENSES)


^^^ Lebron got 3 years to develop his team before entering the playoffs in Year 3 as a high seed, which can't be compared to rookie Jordan being forced into the playoffs as an 8 seed.

When 88' Jordan had 3 healthy seasons like Lebron had, he won 50 games and made the 2nd Round just like 3rd year Lebron (06').

[Hey Yo]

No matter how many times you imply it, Detroit was never considered a superteam in the 80's

[3ball]

No matter how many times you imply it, Detroit was never considered a superteam in the 80's


They were considered a dynasty, and no one ever beat a dynasty with an 8 ppg rookie sidekick (lottery cast).

Pippen was a role player for several years and considered a SPOT that opponents exploited, especially the Pistons.. Young Pippen was below replacement and hurt the Bulls - this is documented fact.

That's why I keep repeating that MJ carried an 8 ppg rookie to the 2nd Round and ECF, while Lebron needed a 2-time all-star center to make the 06' Playoffs, along with a 22/5/5 acquisition and the future COY.




No matter how many times you imply it, Detroit was never considered a superteam in the 80's


Lebron always enjoyed high seeds and teammates with all-star resumes in a conference that 1-star teams were winning, while Jordan had deep runs with low seeds and undecorated role players in a conference that required a super-team to win it.




No matter how many times you imply it, Detroit was never considered a superteam in the 80's


2004 Cavs.... NO ALL-STARS

2005 Cavs.... LEBRON/ZYDRUNAS BECOME ALL-STARS

2006 Cavs.... LEBRON/ZYDRUNUS ACQUIRE ALL-DEFENDER HUGHES AND THE FUTURE COY (TOP DEFENSES)


^^^ Lebron got 3 years to develop his team before entering the playoffs in Year 3 as a high seed, which can't be compared to rookie Jordan being forced into the playoffs as an 8 seed.

When 88' Jordan had 3 healthy seasons like Lebron had, he won 50 games and made the 2nd Round just like 3rd year Lebron (06').

[Hey Yo]

1 All-star who is also the only All-NBA player on a team (Detroit) doesn't make them a superteam.

If it did, then there's been many superteams in the past 40yrs.

[3ball]

1 All-star who is also the only All-NBA player on a team (Detroit) doesn't make them a superteam.

If it did, then there's been many superteams in the past 40yrs.


But Pippen was an 8 ppg rookie and the Pistons were a dynasty - no one ever beat a dynasty with an 8 ppg rookie (lottery cast).

So MJ carried an 8 ppg rookie to the 2nd Round and ECF, while Lebron needed a 2-time all-star center to make the 06' Playoffs, along with a 22/5/5 acquisition and the future COY.

Ultimately, Lebron always enjoyed high seeds and teammates with all-star resumes in a conference that 1-star teams were winning, while Jordan had deep runs with low seeds and undecorated role players in a conference that required a super-team to win it.
.

[3ball]

But Pippen was an 8 ppg rookie and the Pistons were a dynasty - no one ever beat a dynasty with an 8 ppg rookie (lottery cast).

So MJ carried an 8 ppg rookie to the 2nd Round and ECF, while Lebron needed a 2-time all-star center to make the 06' Playoffs, along with a 22/5/5 acquisition and the future COY.

Ultimately, Lebron always enjoyed high seeds and teammates with all-star resumes in a conference that 1-star teams were winning, while Jordan had deep runs with low seeds and undecorated role players in a conference that required a super-team to win it.





Hey Yo on his bike and pedaling fast

[Hey Yo]

Detroit was 1-1 in the Finals, in the 80's, yet you say they were a superteam/dynasty.

Put that bottle of mad dog away, brah.

[Hey Yo]

Detroit was 1-1 in the Finals, in the 80's, yet you say they were a superteam/dynasty.

Put that bottle of mad dog away, brah.

3ball passed out on the shitter while thinking of a reply

[Shooter]

Detroit was 1-1 in the Finals, in the 80's, yet you say they were a superteam/dynasty.

Put that bottle of mad dog away, brah.

3ball shaking :lol

He never wins anymore, his time is up.

[Smoke117]

1-9

[AirBonner]

3ball passed out on the shitter while thinking of a reply
:lol:lol:lol

[And1AllDay]

Detroit was 1-1 in the Finals, in the 80's, yet you say they were a superteam/dynasty.

Put that bottle of mad dog away, brah.

3baLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLl

lots of Ls

wrekt again :oldlol:

[And1AllDay]

3ball passed out on the shitter while thinking of a reply

3ball is liek wizards jordan mike

he was good in a weak era of ball but when the super weights came in he was not good enoug hand crumpled up

he used to win all his battles back in the weak era ish days but now he gets trampled up on the daily

[2much_knowledge]

No matter how many times you imply it, Detroit was never considered a superteam in the 80's

Stop the nonsense. Bad boys was a dynasty. Period