Trae Young won a playoff series before Doncic. Who won the trade then?

[k0kakw0rld]

Trigga Trae
Ice Trae

[hold this L]

So you're comparing playing vs the 2nd worst team in the playoffs and 1 of the favorites of the entire competition to win it? Did Craptors being trash this year lower your IQ even further than it was?

[Smoke117]

The Mavs.

[plowking]

Luka is significantly better as a player.

Trae is nice for highlights and that, but he is an extreme budget version of Dame.

[FireDavidKahn]

This is by far the one of the dumbest arguments ever used on ISH:roll:

[coin24]

Lol dame is about to get bounced out of the first round against a depleted nuggets team..

Trigga makes his teammates better, can control/ takeover a game.. the trade was perfect for both teams

[insight]

Both teams are in a very good place but who won the trade depends on what type of player Cam Reddish becomes. If he becomes another key piece, I love the trade for the Hawks who will have one of the best Point Guards in the league, and one of the best defenders in the league.

[ShawkFactory]

Luka is significantly better as a player.

Trae is nice for highlights and that, but he is an extreme budget version of Dame.

Can always tell when someone doesn’t watch Trae much.

[ImKobe]

You take the ATG generational talent over an undersized star PG in Trae and a potential star in Reddish every single time. Hindsight is 20/20, obviously, but the Hawks lost the trade, even if the Mavs lose in 7 while the Hawks get to the ECF by playing an overachieving Knicks squad and an injured Philly team.

[ArbitraryWater]

Oh shit, thats what determines who the better player is?

Lolol

[k0kakw0rld]

Oh shit, thats what determines who the better player is?

Lolol

Well he is been the main problem for NY. So yeah that determines it.

[insight]

Luka is significantly better as a player.

Trae is nice for highlights and that, but he is an extreme budget version of Dame.

How is Trae an extreme budget version of Dame when they play entirely different roles for their teams. Trae is one of the best if not the best passer in the entire league, who has finished #2 in assist two years in a row. He CONTROLS the entire offense, Dame is a scorer! he can facilitate but that is not his strength he is primarily a sharp shooter and closer. You are comparing
Do you guys watch basketball or just follow narratives on sports center?

[ArbitraryWater]

Well he is been the main problem for NY. So yeah that determines it.

for NY..

what does that have to do with Luka?


Lmao

[insight]

You take the ATG generational talent over an undersized star PG in Trae and a potential star in Reddish every single time. Hindsight is 20/20, obviously, but the Hawks lost the trade, even if the Mavs lose in 7 while the Hawks get to the ECF by playing an overachieving Knicks squad and an injured Philly team.

If Luka was considered a generational talent before the draft after playing in the Euro League since 16 he would have been drafted #1 or #2. You act like everyone assumed his game would translate to the NBA which is not the case. Luka is the more talented player because of his size and unique skill set but Trae is a huge offensive talent and Cam has so much untapped potential so the trade is not lopsided as you suggest.

You are going to see, the Hawks are one of the most talented if not the most talented young team in the league. Hunter, Reddish, Heurter, OKungwu, Collins, Trae are all under 24 years old.

[k0kakw0rld]

for NY..

what does that have to do with Luka?


Lmao

Top 5 defense in the league
Because of what happened on draft daybtheybare linked forever.

[insight]

for NY..

what does that have to do with Luka?


Lmao

Luka is the superior player at this point, not to many players can do what he does at 6'7. With that said, New York was the #1 rated defense in the regular season and they were shredded by Trae Young. Luka has struggled to make free throws with limited fans, Trae is knocking down key shots in MSG with fans spitting on him and chanting F U.
Stop acting like this dude is not different!

[ImKobe]

If Luka was considered a generational talent before the draft after playing in the Euro League since 16 he would have been drafted #1 or #2. You act like everyone assumed his game would translate to the NBA which is not the case. Luka is the more talented player because of his size and unique skill set but Trae is a huge offensive talent and Cam has so much untapped potential so the trade is not lopsided as you suggest.

You are going to see, the Hawks are one of the most talented if not the most talented young team in the league. Hunter, Reddish, Heurter, OKungwu, Collins, Trae are all under 24 years old.

Like I said, hindsight is 20/20. Hawks have a great young team and Trae's a star, but the Mavs got more out of that trade.

[insight]

Like I said, hindsight is 20/20. Hawks have a great young team and Trae's a star, but the Mavs got more out of that trade.
Agree to disagree.
It all depends if Cam Reddish puts it all together at some point. If he does, look out because he will be PG 2.0 before he was injured. TBD.

[bullettooth]

Did Craptors being trash this year lower your IQ even further than it was?

LOL, Toronto's main export is idiots.

[Stanley Kobrick]

LOL, Toronto's main export is idiots.
you thought Toronto was a city in America

[LAmbruh]

you thought Toronto was a city in America
:oldlol: poor snaggletooth got so embarrassed by it and went on a 10 page meltdown lmao!

[tpols]

"The Special One"

:roll:

https://memeguy.com/photos/images/short-bus-243553.jpg

[Pip' N Rodman]

:oldlol: poor snaggletooth got so embarrassed by it and went on a 10 page meltdown lmao!

:roll:

[bullettooth]

you thought Toronto was a city in America

You know you're trash when you need to lie.

[LAmbruh]

:roll:
:roll:


hey snaggle, tell us again how bad Toronto is because you read online it has a one metro system :oldlol:

[SouBeachTalents]

There's no way anybody's this stupid, I'm holding out hope OP is low key trolling

[LeCola]

If somebody says Trae>Doncic in current conditions, it means that person is;

a) racist
b) knows nothing about basketball
c) trolling

Which one?

[SouBeachTalents]

If somebody says Trae>Doncic in current conditions, it means that person is;

a) racist
b) knows nothing about basketball
c) trolling

Which one?
I mean sure, most people would believe Trae > Luka is a bad take, but it's the OP's argument that Trae winning a playoff series (potentially) a few days earlier, against a significantly worse team, that makes him better is what's truly retarded

[LeCola]

I mean sure, most people would believe Trae > Luka is a bad take, but it's the OP's argument that Trae winning a playoff series (potentially) a few days earlier, against a significantly worse team, that makes him better is what's truly retarded

I know why he used that argument.

Because, he could find only that argument to say Trae > Doncic.

[tontoz]

Dallas won the trade but it doesn't look as lopsided now. Trae has shown that he is a legit star in his own right and he has a lot of talent around him to work with. Props to Atlanta for a nice job rebuilding.

[Airupthere]

Luka is clearly the better player and not necessarily a know on trae. My only concern with Luka is longevity. He looks heavy this early in his career.

[LeCola]

Luka is clearly the better player and not necessarily a know on trae. My only concern with Luka is longevity. He looks heavy this early in his career.

He can be a PF when he gets old. He is taller than Draymond Green.

[fsvr54]

Cam Reddish will be a DPOY level player, so the Hawks def won the trade.

[Axe]

Trae only did better once mcmillan started his coaching duties for the team but before that it was meh. I mean he was already posting interesting numbers by then although the hawks weren't going anywhere.

[ralph_i_el]

Agree to disagree.
It all depends if Cam Reddish puts it all together at some point. If he does, look out because he will be PG 2.0 before he was injured. TBD.

He won't. He's the ultimate "looks the part" guy. He is godawful.

[ralph_i_el]

Dallas won the trade but it doesn't look as lopsided now. Trae has shown that he is a legit star in his own right and he has a lot of talent around him to work with. Props to Atlanta for a nice job rebuilding.
^Correct Answer

[Spurs m8]

I'm not surprised op has posted something so ridiculously low iq that it's mind blowing.

The measurement for who won a trade isn't who won the first playoff series.

And even then, they might both get through this round and Luka could literally go further this season.

But even then...thats not the measurement...

It's who has achieved the most for the team, when it's all said and done.

You honestly can't be this stupid?
Surely?

Fvck.me hahahahhaha

[Spurs m8]

Considering their careers could go over the span of 15+ years, this is the equivalent of measuring the trade on who won the first game...noting that Luka isn't playing until the day after.

It's just THAT dumb

[WhiteKyrie]

Because the Knicks and Clippers are similar levels of competition?

This is the same idiotic equivalent of comparing eighth straight finals trips against cupcakes. In comparison to having to beat multiple 50+ and 60+ teams just to get to the finals.

[Phoenix]

Trae is nice, real nice.... but come on. You're talking about a player who may top out at Reggie Miller/Ray Allen potential( and I don't mean that as a knock) versus a dude with top 20 GOAT potential.

And the arguing 'logic' being applied? Jesus.

[Turbo Slayer]

Bruhhhh.

[insight]

He won't. He's the ultimate "looks the part" guy. He is godawful.

DeAndre Hunter was god awful is rookie season too. Some players take more time to adjust to the NBA.
He is already an elite defender who could provide Ben Simmons level defense when healthy. He has to get better offensively especially his basketball IQ, but many in the Atlanta front office believe he will become the best player on the Hawks. I would leet him get healthy and more experienced before we writing him off.

[Taurus]

The only real loser of that draft was the Kings, as always

[insight]

Trae is nice, real nice.... but come on. You're talking about a player who may top out at Reggie Miller/Ray Allen potential( and I don't mean that as a knock) versus a dude with top 20 GOAT potential.

And the arguing 'logic' being applied? Jesus.

Reggie Miller and Ray Allen were 2 guard sharp shooters. Trae young is a true point guard who is probably already the best passer in the league. Steve Nash with super deep range is a better comparison, he is nothing like Reggie or Ray.

[insight]

Because the Knicks and Clippers are similar levels of competition?

This is the same idiotic equivalent of comparing eighth straight finals trips against cupcakes. In comparison to having to beat multiple 50+ and 60+ teams just to get to the finals.

Funny how before the series started the only thing people were talking about was how the Knicks had the #1 defense in the NBA. Randal was an All NBA player and Trae Young was an empty stat foul baiting.
Now the story is New York was never good and even though the Clippers choked in the bubble and has won anything ever they are now a dynasty.

[k0kakw0rld]

I mean sure, most people would believe Trae > Luka is a bad take, but it's the OP's argument that Trae winning a playoff series (potentially) a few days earlier, against a significantly worse team, that makes him better is what's truly retarded

Knocks are a top 5 defense in the NBA.

[k0kakw0rld]

Luka is clearly the better player and not necessarily a know on trae. My only concern with Luka is longevity. He looks heavy this early in his career.
Because he is taller and does more.

But is he really better though?

[Phoenix]

Reggie Miller and Ray Allen were 2 guard sharp shooters. Trae young is a true point guard who is probably already the best passer in the league. Steve Nash with super deep range is a better comparison, he is nothing like Reggie or Ray.

I wasn't talking about his skillset compared to Reggie/Ray. I mean as far as the kind of career and success he'll have. if I intended to speak specifically about 'how' Trae plays I would have said that, but if it wasn't clear in my earlier post then hopefully it is now. I can see Luka going on to have a top 20 type career. I don't see Trae having that kind of legacy.

[bobopenguin]

putting trae and doncic on the same sentence is already a crime at this stage.

[RRR3]

Luka is better but Trae just completely annihilated an elite defense at age 22 in his first playoff series. He’s a future first ballot HOFer barring injury and the Hawks have an epic young core. They could win a ring in the next decade.

[insight]

putting trae and doncic on the same sentence is already a crime at this stage.

Before the season started according to Vegas Luka was the odds on favorite to win the MVP , 3 weeks ago Dallas was struggling to avoid the play in game and Luka and Cuban were complaining about how stupid the playin games were. I think it's a crime for a MVP candidate to whine and complain about how being a 6th seed or higher is unfair.
Do you know why nobody talks about Luka being an MVP this season? It's because he started like Doo Doo, and was straight up terrible. He finished the season strong and is playing great in the playoffs thus far but don't pretend like he wasn't stinking it up earlier in the season and his team mates kept Dallas in the hunt.

[AirBonner]

Trae and Doncic also are not 1-9 like MJ