If Dennis Rodman wasn't a weirdo, would he be in the HALL OF FAME?

[TAZORAC]

Most people would agree that Rodman has no place in the NBA hall of fame.

In your personal opinion, if he wasn't a weirdo/character, do you think he'd be in the NBA hall of fame?

[Foster5k]

This topic/discussion is an old one. I think the conclusion being, he should be but probably wont be in the HOF.

The Worm, for me, was always fun to watch. He was very good defensively and had personality. He was somewhat erratic, on the court and especially off the court, but that added to his mystique nature.

If you ask most people, who watched him play, they'll probably say he was a good player but very weird.

Being very weird shouldn't deny someone, who deserves it, a spot in the HOF.

The Worm should definitely be there, no doubt about it.

[Joey Turnbuckle]

What? I think he should be in the hall of fame. He was a defensive stud and rebound king. Why is Ben Wallace in and not Rodman?

[D-Wait]

What? I think he should be in the hall of fame. He was a defensive stud and rebound king. Why is Ben Wallace in and not Rodman?

Rodman was inducted in 2011.

[kenneth_griffin]

rodman is arguably the 1996 finals mvp.. he belongs

[Foster5k]

Rodman was inducted in 2012.

I thought so but didn't care to google it lol. I knew this topic was an old one for a reason....

[Stanley Kobrick]

Rodman had a great HOF speech

[Joey Turnbuckle]

Rodman was inducted in 2011.

I was gonna say. I assumed he was but title said otherwise and like other person said, I didnt care to google it lol

[TAZORAC]

What? I think he should be in the hall of fame. He was a defensive stud and rebound king. Why is Ben Wallace in and not Rodman?

Ben Wallace doesn't deserve to be in the hall of fame either.

[Axe]

T-mac doesn't deserve to be in it too

[SouBeachTalents]

T-mac doesn't deserve to be in it too
A 7x All-NBA & 2x scoring champ isn't making the HOF now? Ok :lol

[TAZORAC]

T-mac doesn't deserve to be in it too


Mcgrady in my opinion AFTER DURANT is the best pure scrorer in NBA history. If he stayed healthy HE'D EASILY be top 10 scorer.

Mcgrady was 1 of a kind offensive player.

[iamgine]

Why wouldn't he?

[Bronbron23]

Most people would agree that Rodman has no place in the NBA hall of fame.

In your personal opinion, if he wasn't a weirdo/character, do you think he'd be in the NBA hall of fame?

Hard to say. I believe he should be because i value defense and the mental aspect of the game. He was a master in both.

[LukeWalton]

most HoF people are pretty weird
except David Robinson

[Carbine]

Dennis is arguably the most versatile defender ever, he belongs in the HOF just for that. When you factor in being the best rebounder in the last 50 years....... yea.

[BarberSchool]

FAME

hall of FAME

HALL OF FAAAAAAAAAAME.

FAME is not the same as talent.

FAME is not the same as MERIT.

FAME is about notoriety.

[emaugust]

Most people would agree that Rodman has no place in the NBA hall of fame.

In your personal opinion, if he wasn't a weirdo/character, do you think he'd be in the NBA hall of fame?

I don't ever think there has been a peak as high as peak Shaq and Rodman locked him down during that time.

That's all the HoF argument I need. Dude was a key piece on 2 of the most iconic NBA teams of all time.

[TAZORAC]

Dennis is arguably the most versatile defender ever, he belongs in the HOF just for that. When you factor in being the best rebounder in the last 50 years....... yea.

most versatile defender or real life troll and flagrant fouler?

[dankok8]

Yes he would. Rodman's game warranted HOF status.

[Lakers Legend#32]

With his rebounding numbers you can't keep him out of the HOF.

[DABIGSALSISHA]

Best Defender of all time.

[Axe]

A 7x All-NBA & 2x scoring champ isn't making the HOF now? Ok :lol
I just wish he'd done more in the playoffs. :ohwell:

[pandiani17]

Mcgrady in my opinion AFTER DURANT is the best pure scrorer in NBA history. If he stayed healthy HE'D EASILY be top 10 scorer.

Mcgrady was 1 of a kind offensive player.

Don't know in NBA history, but definitely you are right within the players we have seen.

[TAZORAC]

Don't know in NBA history, but definitely you are right within the players we have seen.

Wilt Chamberlin didn't have any skill and scored 100 points in a game. I don't count primitive era basketball.

[72-10]

If Rodman had still played defense and rebounded like he did in the 90s 'til '98, particularly those 7 league leading rebounding campaigns, he would probably be a Hall of Famer although barely in and probably not first ballot, but I set a much lower standard for basketball than for baseball...

[72-10]

It's a bit like asking if we didn't have a moderator who was put to death for idol worship, would we still have the same type of forum?

[72-10]

Yes he would. Rodman's game warranted HOF status.

barely, there's no offense:rolleyes:

[Jasper]

Most people would agree that Rodman has no place in the NBA hall of fame.

In your personal opinion, if he wasn't a weirdo/character, do you think he'd be in the NBA hall of fame?

yes he is and should be a HOF'er(.)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dennis_Rodman

[AirBonner]

If Ben Wallace is a HOFer than Rodman is

[RogueBorg]

Rodman is IMO the best rebounder of all-time. When you factor in pace, minutes per game, number of games played, and % of team rebounds, Rodman is better than Chamberlain.

Everyone looks at Wilt's gaudy rebound numbers and rightfully so, they are, but Rodman's are better. For example, when Wilt averaged 27.2 rpg in 1960-'61 it was 36.1% of his teams total rebounds while playing 47.8 minutes/game (2149 out of 5938 total available.)

When Rodman averaged 18.7 in 1991-'92 for Detroit it was 42.1% of his teams total rebounds in only 40.3 minutes/game (1530 out of 3631 total available.)

If you take Rodman's 42.1% of the Philadelphia Warriors 5939 total rebounds (2500.319) and divide it by the same number of games Chamberlain played (80), Rodman would have averaged 31.2 rebounds/game.

The tricky part of this, these numbers are based on 40.3 minutes played per game for Rodman. What would they be if he averaged Wilt's 47.8 minutes/game? Let me see if I can work this out, someone check my math. I'm going to round up to 48 minutes/game.

1.In an 82 game season there are 3936 total minutes (I'm not going to check for the number of OT games Detroit played in.) Rodman played in 3301 minutes out of 3936 total minutes in 1991-'92 or 83.8% of the total minutes.

2. In 1991-'92 Rodman grabbed a total of 1530 rebounds out of 3658 total rebounds by Detroit (42.1%)

3.Take 1530 rebounds divided by the 3301 minutes he played and multiply that by the total number of minutes he could have played (3936) and you get 1824 total rebounds (22.2 rpg)

4. 1824 is 49.8% of Detroit's total rebounds which was 3658. Now we have his true percentage had he played the full game.

5. Take 49.8% of the 1960-'61 Warriors total rebounds (5938) and we find Rodman would have grabbed 2958 total rebounds which equates to 36.0 rebounds per game over 82 games had he played every minute.

Throw in the fact he's a 2x DPOY, 8x All-NBA Defensive Team, 7x Rebounding champ, and 5x NBA Champion....that's Hall of Fame material.

[ClipperRevival]

Rodman is IMO the best rebounder of all-time. When you factor in pace, minutes per game, number of games played, and % of team rebounds, Rodman is better than Chamberlain.

Everyone looks at Wilt's gaudy rebound numbers and rightfully so, they are, but Rodman's are better. For example, when Wilt averaged 27.2 rpg in 1960-'61 it was 36.1% of his teams total rebounds while playing 47.8 minutes/game (2149 out of 5938 total available.)

When Rodman averaged 18.7 in 1991-'92 for Detroit it was 42.1% of his teams total rebounds in only 40.3 minutes/game (1530 out of 3631 total available.)

If you take Rodman's 42.1% of the Philadelphia Warriors 5939 total rebounds (2500.319) and divide it by the same number of games Chamberlain played (80), Rodman would have averaged 31.2 rebounds/game.

The tricky part of this, these numbers are based on 40.3 minutes played per game for Rodman. What would they be if he averaged Wilt's 47.8 minutes/game? Let me see if I can work this out, someone check my math. I'm going to round up to 48 minutes/game.

1.In an 82 game season there are 3936 total minutes (I'm not going to check for the number of OT games Detroit played in.) Rodman played in 3301 minutes out of 3936 total minutes in 1991-'92 or 83.8% of the total minutes.

2. In 1991-'92 Rodman grabbed a total of 1530 rebounds out of 3658 total rebounds by Detroit (42.1%)

3.Take 1530 rebounds divided by the 3301 minutes he played and multiply that by the total number of minutes he could have played (3936) and you get 1824 total rebounds (22.2 rpg)

4. 1824 is 49.8% of Detroit's total rebounds which was 3658. Now we have his true percentage had he played the full game.

5. Take 49.8% of the 1960-'61 Warriors total rebounds (5938) and we find Rodman would have grabbed 2958 total rebounds which equates to 36.0 rebounds per game over 82 games had he played every minute.

Throw in the fact he's a 2x DPOY, 8x All-NBA Defensive Team, 7x Rebounding champ, and 5x NBA Champion....that's Hall of Fame material.

:applause:

Thanks coach.

Rodman > Ilt

[72-10]

Rodman is IMO the best rebounder of all-time. When you factor in pace, minutes per game, number of games played, and % of team rebounds, Rodman is better than Chamberlain.

Everyone looks at Wilt's gaudy rebound numbers and rightfully so, they are, but Rodman's are better. For example, when Wilt averaged 27.2 rpg in 1960-'61 it was 36.1% of his teams total rebounds while playing 47.8 minutes/game (2149 out of 5938 total available.)

When Rodman averaged 18.7 in 1991-'92 for Detroit it was 42.1% of his teams total rebounds in only 40.3 minutes/game (1530 out of 3631 total available.)

If you take Rodman's 42.1% of the Philadelphia Warriors 5939 total rebounds (2500.319) and divide it by the same number of games Chamberlain played (80), Rodman would have averaged 31.2 rebounds/game.

The tricky part of this, these numbers are based on 40.3 minutes played per game for Rodman. What would they be if he averaged Wilt's 47.8 minutes/game? Let me see if I can work this out, someone check my math. I'm going to round up to 48 minutes/game.

1.In an 82 game season there are 3936 total minutes (I'm not going to check for the number of OT games Detroit played in.) Rodman played in 3301 minutes out of 3936 total minutes in 1991-'92 or 83.8% of the total minutes.

2. In 1991-'92 Rodman grabbed a total of 1530 rebounds out of 3658 total rebounds by Detroit (42.1%)

3.Take 1530 rebounds divided by the 3301 minutes he played and multiply that by the total number of minutes he could have played (3936) and you get 1824 total rebounds (22.2 rpg)

4. 1824 is 49.8% of Detroit's total rebounds which was 3658. Now we have his true percentage had he played the full game.

5. Take 49.8% of the 1960-'61 Warriors total rebounds (5938) and we find Rodman would have grabbed 2958 total rebounds which equates to 36.0 rebounds per game over 82 games had he played every minute.

Throw in the fact he's a 2x DPOY, 8x All-NBA Defensive Team, 7x Rebounding champ, and 5x NBA Champion....that's Hall of Fame material.

Rebound rate tells a lot about Rodman. It's quite convincing that Rodman grabbed a higher percentage of the available rebounds while he was on the floor than Wilt did. Rodman was excellent at put-backs resulting in a historically high field goal percentage. That's great if you ask me.

[baudkarma]

Rodman was inducted in 2011.

Please! Facts only cloud the issue.

[3ball]

Most people would agree that Rodman has no place in the NBA hall of fame.

In your personal opinion, if he wasn't a weirdo/character, do you think he'd be in the NBA hall of fame?


His wedding dresses and funny hair made him a star, otherwise he averaged 4/8 in the 97' Playoffs and wasn't the starter in 98' Playoffs, aka bum

[TAZORAC]

I can name 20 players who aren't in the HOF who played in the NBA over the span of 15 years who are better then Rodman.

He honestly shouldn't even have been nomiated.