Players better than Iverson

[Dr Hawk]

For instance, John Stockton.

[Akeem34TheDream]

Michael Jordan

[pandiani17]

Not many, my man, not many. Remember he dropped 48 on Kobe 20 years ago.

[Dr Hawk]

Dwight Howard

[Gohan]

Dwight Howard

Howard is a top 10 all time player? Jordan, Russell, wilt,shaq

That maybe it

[Spain_]

Kobe
Lebron
MJ
Kareem
Wilt
Russell
Moses
Magic
Bird
Havlicek
Pettit
Barry
Dr J
Shaq
KG
Isiah
Dirk
Duncan
Durant
Curry
Nash
D.Howard
Webber
Malone
Barkley
Payton
Kawhi
Oscar
Kidd


A lot of current players are probably better all time than him too Jokic Giannis Luka Embid will very likely have better careers

[Dr Hawk]

Kobe
Lebron
MJ
Kareem
Wilt
Russell
Moses
Magic
Bird
Havlicek
Pettit
Barry
Dr J
Shaq
KG
Isiah
Dirk
Duncan
Durant
Curry
Nash
D.Howard
Webber
Malone
Barkley
Payton


A lot of current players are probably better all time than him too Jokic Giannis Luka Embid will very likely have better careers

Throw in Allen, Miller, Pau, Pierce, Melo.

More to come.

[Gohan]

Lmao at these fools Webber? Payton? Tell me how iversons ass taste please

[2much_knowledge]

Idk why Iverson is so hated on this site. A.I was a ****ing headache for me as a Raptor fan back in the day. It was torture

[Spain_]

Idk why Iverson is so hated on this site. A.I was a ****ing headache for me as a Raptor fan back in the day. It was torture

AI just isn't a top 30 player like people seem to think he is don't know what to tell you.
He was very influential and memorable though, which causes people to overrate him.

[paksat]

defensively? Everyone

offensively? quite a few

very inefficient chucker that plays his own style of lebronze ball except with a better jumpshot

I wouldn't want him on my team personally. If he's sooo great then why did he and prime melo do anything together? Billups was also on that nuggets team. Dude is lucky he took a game off the lakers too, bucks should have been in that championship but the refs decided that wasn't gonna happen.

[Smoke117]

Too many to bother making a thread.

[Gohan]

Too many to bother making a thread.

If we can bother to make a 1000 threads for lefraud we can make a thread for iverson

[tpols]

There are literally 100s. I would rather have a guy like Boris diaw or shane battier on my team.

[ShawkFactory]

Throw in Allen, Miller, Pau, Pierce, Melo.

More to come.

Let’s add Hakeem, David Robinson, Gervin, and Isiah Thomas too. There’s others

Was Iverson really more impactful that Dominque?

[Gohan]

Shaq “iverson is a top 5 player of all time”

[Dr Hawk]

Let’s add Hakeem, David Robinson, Gervin, and Isiah Thomas too. There’s others

Was Iverson really more impactful that Dominque?

No he wasn't.

Let's add Klay Thompson to the list as well.

More to come.

[Gohan]

No he wasn't.

Let's add Klay Thompson to the list as well.

More to come.

Klay couldn’t hold iversons jock strap

[imdaman99]

This thread was made to rile up gohan. I feel you bruh, they will make threads like this on Westbrook one day (oh wait it's a regular occurrence already)

[Phoenix]

Brian Scalabrine. I mean, this is where the thread is headed so why not.

[Gohan]

This thread was made to rile up gohan. I feel you bruh, they will make threads like this on Westbrook one day (oh wait it's a regular occurrence already)
Ima fan of Westbrook so I know lol some people act like he was never good. I saw him straight body Chris Paul in the playoffs

[Smoke117]

If we can bother to make a 1000 threads for lefraud we can make a thread for iverson

You think Iverson is top 10…your opinions are forever voided of merit.

[Gohan]

You think Iverson is top 10…your opinions are forever voided of merit.

I would listen to your opinions but you’re too drunk. Btw take the white sheet off your head it’s clouding your judgement

[Spain_]

Let’s add Hakeem, David Robinson, Gervin, and Isiah Thomas too. There’s others

Was Iverson really more impactful that Dominque?

Prime Dominique was similar level to AI, but that has more to do with people sleeping on Nique and thinking he was just an athlete

[Smoke117]

I would listen to your opinions but you’re too drunk. Btw take the white sheet off your head it’s clouding your judgement

Actually, I don’t post on ish anymore when I drink. Have no interest at those times anymore.

[FKAri]

Add Eric Snow to the list

[Rysio]

There is plenty of players more consistent than iverson but at his best theres probably less than 10 better than him.

[mehyaM24]

at his best not a whole lot. he wasn't the most efficient but unlike a lot of the players listed, he could get you a bucket when it counted. played through contact better than most too. iverson would be a monster in today's pucce ass game lol

[Gohan]

There is plenty of players more consistent than iverson but at his best theres probably less than 10 better than him.


at his best not a whole lot. he wasn't the most efficient but unlike a lot of the players listed, he could get you a bucket when it counted. played through contact better than most too. iverson would be a monster in today's pucce ass game lol


Both on point Iverson would be ridiculously good in today’s game

[mehyaM24]

Both on point Iverson would be ridiculously good in today’s game

m.youtube.com/watch?v=1Tb4ck8upHQ
m.youtube.com/watch?v=OjawlXmbq_M

you're a big ai fan, so you probably already seen these. realass mixtapes though.

[mehyaM24]

next time someone calls iverson "overrated" link em REAL PLUS MINUS. espn's impact measure.

http://www.espn.com/nba/statistics/rpm/_/year/2005/sort/ORPM/position/2

1999 SGs: #1 in offensive +/- & #1 in overall real +/-
2000 SGs: #2 in offensive +/- & #3 in overall real +/-
2001 SGs: #3 in offensive +/- & #4 in overall real +/-
2002 SGs: #5 in offensive +/- & #3 in overall real +/-
2003 SGs: #4 in offensive +/- & #3 in overall real +/-
2004 SGs: #6 in offensive +/-
2005 SGs: #1 in offensive +/- & #6 in overall real +/-
2006 SGs: #2 in offensive +/- & #6 in overall real +/-

these are iverson's best years. keep in mind too that around this time, kobe/carter/ray/reggie/wade/manu/redd/finley were also playing at their best.

[Gohan]

next time someone calls iverson "overrated" link em REAL PLUS MINUS. espn's impact measure.

http://www.espn.com/nba/statistics/rpm/_/year/2005/sort/ORPM/position/2

1999 SGs: #1 in offensive +/- & #1 in overall real +/-
2000 SGs: #2 in offensive +/- & #3 in overall real +/-
2001 SGs: #3 in offensive +/- & #4 in overall real +/-
2002 SGs: #5 in offensive +/- & #3 in overall real +/-
2003 SGs: #4 in offensive +/- & #3 in overall real +/-
2004 SGs: #6 in offensive +/-
2005 SGs: #1 in offensive +/- & #6 in overall real +/-
2006 SGs: #2 in offensive +/- & #6 in overall real +/-

these are iverson's best years. keep in mind too that around this time, kobe/carter/ray/reggie/wade/manu/redd/finley were also playing at their best.


I knew he’d be # 1 in 05 he was up there for best players in the league that year along with shaq
Btw thanks for posting this never seen this before

[tpols]

I knew he’d be # 1 in 05 he was up there for best players in the league that year along with shaq
Btw thanks for posting this never seen this before

He's not number 1 in 2005 according to that link. Youre only looking at offensive rpm. Total rpm he was the 16th ranked SG and 86th ranked overall player. LOL. This is exactly what were talking about. Perception vs reality.

[red1]

trae young

[mehyaM24]

He's not number 1 in 2005 according to that link. Youre only looking at offensive rpm. Total rpm he was the 16th ranked SG and 86th ranked overall player. LOL. This is exactly what were talking about. Perception vs reality.

which is bigtime. none of those guards impacted games on defense like bigmen did. unlike offense, defense is better measured through team play anyway.

iverson was ranked #6 overall btw. click the "WINS" tab. that appropriately adjusts for minutes & games played.

[tpols]

which is bigtime. none of those guards impacted games on defense like bigmen did. unlike offense, defense is better measured through team play anyway.

iverson was ranked #6 overall btw. click the "WINS" tab. that appropriately adjusts for minutes & games played.

I'm just saying if you're a +4 on offense but a -3 on defense... how does that not count? Guards can't impact defense like a big man, but they don't have to be way deep in the negative either. Shit... Manu was hugely in the positive for defense and he's a guard too. Kobe in his worst prime year ever was a 0. -3 is a whole different level of bad. That means he was a defensive liability on the level of 5'6 Isaiah Thomas from a few years ago.

But I don't have as much of a problem with Iverson in regular seasons. He actually was good in them a lot. Its in the playoffs where his impacts fell off a cliff and his negative leadership intangibles that put me off. He plays a dumb brand of ball. Baby manu washed him and Marbury in the 2004 Olympics for a reason. Way smarter and better basketball player.

[Gohan]

I'm just saying if you're a +4 on offense but a -3 on defense... how does that not count? Guards can't impact defense like a big man, but they don't have to be way deep in the negative either. Shit... Manu was hugely in the positive for defense and he's a guard too. Kobe in his worst prime year ever was a 0. -3 is a whole different level of bad. That means he was a defensive liability on the level of 5'6 Isaiah Thomas from a few years ago.

But I don't have as much of a problem with Iverson in regular seasons. He actually was good in them a lot. Its in the playoffs where his impacts fell off a cliff and his negative leadership intangibles that put me off. He plays a dumb brand of ball. Baby manu washed him and Marbury in the 2004 Olympics for a reason. Way smarter and better basketball player.

Lmao the2004 olympics was the year iverson played atrocious bball in the reg season too he came back the next year and was the best player in the nba

[mehyaM24]

I'm just saying if you're a +4 on offense but a -3 on defense... how does that not count? Guards can't impact defense like a big man, but they don't have to be way deep in the negative either. Shit... Manu was hugely in the positive for defense and he's a guard too. Kobe in his worst prime year ever was a 0. -3 is a whole different level of bad.

But I don't have as much of a problem with Iverson in regular seasons. He actually was good in them a lot. Its in the playoffs where his impacts fell off a cliff and his negative leadership intangibles that put me off. He plays a dumb brand of ball. Baby manu washed him and Marbury in the 2004 Olympics for a reason. Way smarter and better basketball player.

ai wasn't good on defense. no argument there. it gets overblown though, and opens up a can of worms for guys like chuck & magic. i've already seen 2 posters discredit reggie because he wasn't the 2 way player richmond was. reggie supposedly had "questionable impact" because he was only great on one side of the ball. idk about you, but to me, that sounds like a dumb argument.

we know the motto, better offense > better defense. however you wanna slice it, impact is impact. bad individual defense is often hidden and successfully too, because team defense is first-rate.

[mehyaM24]

iverson averaged 31 & 10 on 47/41/90 against the 05 pistons. in the playoffs :oldlol: let him stack the deck like modern stars, and he probably rings too.

[Gohan]

iverson averaged 31 & 10 on 47/41/90 against the 05 pistons. in the playoffs :oldlol: let him stack the deck like modern stars, and he probably rings too.

They would’ve won another game if willie green didn’t choke that free throw too

[Axe]

Mj isn't better than iverson

[tpols]

iverson averaged 31 & 10 on 47/41/90 against the 05 pistons. in the playoffs :oldlol: let him stack the deck like modern stars, and he probably rings too.

I do think he'd be better in today's spaced out era for sure but that 1 playoff series accounts for like 2% of his playoff career.

[HylianNightmare]

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[Gohan]

Top 15 -20

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