Who do you think personally is the most overrated player of all-time on this site.

[coastalmarker99]

I have recently asked this question on Real GM and I am deeply interested in hearing people's actual serious answers instead of troll ones such as Jordan and Lebron.

[LeCola]

It is currently Lebron and it was Kobe 10 years ago.

Nba is just a product for media and they overrate players on purpose to increase value of the product they market.

[paksat]

it's easily lebron, and that's not a troll

kobe is a bit over rated, I think wade was a considerably better player than him prime vs prime.

but lebronze gets made out to be this genius of a player and he's just not.

[ELITEpower23]

Right off the bat, two retard trolls. I'll stay the course and continue with your question OP.

My choice would be Kareem. He has a lot of blunders that we ignore but would not ignore if it were LeBron/MJ/Kobe.

Missing the playoffs in your prime for two years is a big yikes (yes he was injured but still).

Playing in the weak 70s era with major help and winning only 1 chip is also odd.

He always had an ATG point guard for all of his chips (Robertson or Magic)

He only won 2 Finals MVPs (Yes, 1980 could/should have been his, but he DID get hurt so...)

[paksat]

Right off the bat, two retard trolls. I'll stay the course and continue with your question OP.

My choice would be Kareem. He has a lot of blunders that we ignore but would not ignore if it were LeBron/MJ/Kobe.

Missing the playoffs in your prime for two years is a big yikes (yes he was injured but still).

Playing in the weak 70s era with major help and winning only 1 chip is also odd.

He always had an ATG point guard for all of his chips (Robertson or Magic)

He only won 2 Finals MVPs (Yes, 1980 could/should have been his, but he DID get hurt so...)

he asked a question, he gets a legit answer.

no one on this board even mentions kareem, your post sucks based on that alone.

[Foster5k]

Looking at LeBron's entire career, it's hard to say he's overrated. His resume speaks for itself. It's easy to critic him, because he's compared to literary the greatest player in history.

If coming up somewhat short of the greatest to ever do it, makes you overrated, then I guess he's overrated. At that point, we're just nitpicking. LeBron was/is a beast.

I still got Jordan ahead of LeBron. However, I can't say LeBron is overrated. I think he's right where he needs to be. He gets hyped up and also gets shots fired at him for poor performances. He's rated just right.

[dbugz]

libron

thrive in a weak eastern conference
colluded/formed super teams
all rings have * (shortened season, saved by Ray, saved by Kyrie, scrimmage season/mickey mouse season)

[PeroAntic]

James Harden by far

[BallsOut]

Lebron James. Failed to win titles on his home team then spent rest of career team hopping and colluding to form superteams to get cheap rings.

[Gohan]

Lebron James. Failed to win titles on his home team then spent rest of career team hopping and colluding to form superteams to get cheap rings.

This is exactly what makes him the most overrated the players he’s played with but his fans and the media act like he never colluded:cheers:

[HoopsNY]

Keep in mind the OP is saying "on this site". The answer is clearly LeBron, just by the sheer number of posters who post ridiculous things day and night about him.

As for his career, then LeBron isn't overrated.

[Bronbron23]

I have recently asked this question on Real GM and I am deeply interested in hearing people's actual serious answers instead of troll ones such as Jordan and Lebron.

Steph. His stans make claims that he's the best player currently and even all time when in reality he's not close to being either. He's a borderline top 5 currently and all time he's somewhere in between 13-20.

[Bronbron23]

And how is bron overrated? While i think mj is better bron has a decent argument for goat. He's not overrated his stans on here just troll to much when it comes to others.

[FKAri]

This is exactly what makes him the most overrated the players he’s played with but his fans and the media act like he never colluded:cheers:

As a Lebron James acolyte I believe I can speak on his fans' behalf. We don't act like he's never colluded. We simply don't care. If anything, we applaud him for taking the bull by the horns. We also believe Lebron writes the script so he is basically winning every season anyways. Your welcome.

[Axe]

Steph. His stans make claims that he's the best player currently and even all time when in reality he's not close to being either. He's a borderline top 5 currently and all time he's somewhere in between 13-20.
Agreed

[Druckenmiller]

Bent Simmons.

That clown would rather take five shots and lose then try to actually do something. I can’t think of a player in my lifetime who wanted it less who wasn’t a role player or specialist — Dennis Rodman, Mark Eaton and Tree Rollins were more aggressive at the offensive end.

[90sgoat]

Lebron is overrated everywhere.

On this board, probably Allen Iverson.

[Gohan]

Lebron is overrated everywhere.

On this board, probably Allen Iverson.

You have to be joking on this board iverson is next to Moses with being underrated

[1987_Lakers]

I would say Iverson is the most overrated.
When you ask former and current NBA players, they highly praise him but his inefficient scoring and lack of defense are hard to ignore.

Kobe is great, but lots of casual fans have him as a top 5 player ever, which isn't the case.

[1987_Lakers]

You have to be joking on this board iverson is next to Moses with being underrated

Both are all time great talents. I used to say the same thing about Moses as a teen, wondered why people didnt talk about him as much as the other great centers, but when you watch him play he was a super black hole on offense and wasnt a defensive anchor like the other all-time great centers. I would take Bill Walton's peak over Moses in a second.

[Spain_]

players that are really famous are usually overrated, Pierce, Melo and Westbrook come to mind

[Shooter]

Iverson is top 75 so if you rate him higher then yes, I would choose AI as being most overrated.

But for the average person around here I think it would be Reggie Miller or Patrick Ewing.

[kenneth_griffin]

it's easily lebron, and that's not a troll

kobe is a bit over rated, I think wade was a considerably better player than him prime vs prime.

but lebronze gets made out to be this genius of a player and he's just not.


you think a guy that could only hit mid range shots and drive for a bail out call 20 times a game was better than kobe at his best? lol

Wade's run was 2006 to 2011.. in that time he won a bogus title rigged by stern and couldn't win woth bran and bosh as his sidekicks. then his career was practically over as a superstar and he became a permanent sidekick for the next 3 years while bosh hit more timely shots for the heats success. battier, Chalmers, Cole and Miller also were the guys stepping up mostly while wade sat and watched guys basically win a ring for him with all the help in the world from referees vs Boston and okc.. then Ray Allen stepped up instead of wade in 2013..

the guy never won mvp and you shit on kobe for only winning 1. get the f*ck outa here you derelict f****t


https://youtu.be/Iou1L27tyZI

[bullettooth]

LeBron, by far and it's not even up for debate. Simply put, way too many painful black marks on his resume.

[SouBeachTalents]

Kobe. People still argue he’s better than LeBron and that he’s Jordan’s equal. I don’t even think it’s a knock on him, I still have him as one of the 10-12 greatest players ever, but peak for peak he’s much closer to the likes of Wade, Durant & Kawhi than he is to Jordan or LeBron

[kenneth_griffin]

Kobe. People still argue he’s better than LeBron and that he’s Jordan’s equal. I don’t even think it’s a knock on him, I still have him as one of the 10-12 greatest players ever, but peak for peak he’s much closer to the likes of Wade, Durant & Kawhi than he is to Jordan or LeBron

the fact that you think there is no way to argue kobe was better than lebron means lebron is more overrated since so many people think kobe was better. probably most legends, half the nbas fans and tons of the most educated people that have worked in the nba or faced him individually

not everything is based on media voted league mvps. some people actually study the game

the people closest to lebron as far as his teammates and rivals also have kobe above him

in fact the only time I ever see lebron as a consensus pick above kobe is when guys like Stephen a Smith, max Kellerman, nick Wright and Shannon Sharpe open their mouths. and not one single guy out of any of them have ever been involved in the game of basketball in any way shape or form other than trashing or Jerking it to guys they love and hate.

how you dominate and when you dominated/what era you dominated and who you dominated with all factors in..

so you might wanna kill yourself before trying to speak on this subject again

[Shooter]

Kobe. People still argue he’s better than LeBron and that he’s Jordan’s equal. I don’t even think it’s a knock on him, I still have him as one of the 10-12 greatest players ever, but peak for peak he’s much closer to the likes of Wade, Durant & Kawhi than he is to Jordan or LeBron

Good call

If anyone has Kobe above 13th then Kobe should be on the list of overrated.

[Shooter]

the fact that you think there is no way to argue kobe was better than lebron means lebron is more overrated since so many people think kobe was better. probably most legends, half the nbas fans and tons of the most educated people that have worked in the nba or faced him individually

not everything is based on media voted league mvps. some people actually study the game

the people closest to lebron as far as his teammates and rivals also have kobe above him

in fact the only time I ever see lebron as a consensus pick above kobe is when guys like Stephen a Smith, max Kellerman, nick Wright and Shannon Sharpe open their mouths. and not one single guy out of any of them have ever been involved in the game of basketball in any way shape or form other than trashing or Jerking it to guys they love and hate.

how you dominate and when you dominated/what era you dominated and who you dominated with all factors in..

so you might wanna kill yourself before trying to speak on this subject again

Kenny.

LeBron doubled Kobe's Final MVP totals and 4x his MVP totals.

He has done everything better at every statistical category. Everything. Literally.

Kobe is a laughing stock, in comparison to LeGoat

https://i.postimg.cc/Jnd16J6V/Bron-gw-post.jpg

In one playoff run, LeBron achieved more in each category than Kobe did from each of his best 20 year career.

https://i.postimg.cc/QtTcRFL4/FB_IMG_1528921326607.jpg

Kobe made 7 finals, right? Doesn't he have like only one 40 point game in the Finals? Yikes. Bron passed him up in one year. One. Year.

It's just bad for you bro and I'm sorry. Keep him in the top 13 and we won't bully him but don't try to slide into the top 10, it's not for guys like Kobe.

[1987_Lakers]

Iverson is top 75 so if you rate him higher then yes, I would choose AI as being most overrated.

But for the average person around here I think it would be Reggie Miller or Patrick Ewing.

Ewing was an animal at his peak and is always looked at as a worse player than Hakeem and D-Rob so I dont agree with him being overrated. I agree with Reggie Miller though.

[FKAri]

If you think Kobe's better than Lebron, you're overrating Kobe.
if you think Lebron's better than MJ, you're overrating Lebron.

Depends which group of people is greater in number on ISH.

[paksat]

you think a guy that could only hit mid range shots and drive for a bail out call 20 times a game was better than kobe at his best? lol

Wade's run was 2006 to 2011.. in that time he won a bogus title rigged by stern and couldn't win woth bran and bosh as his sidekicks. then his career was practically over as a superstar and he became a permanent sidekick for the next 3 years while bosh hit more timely shots for the heats success. battier, Chalmers, Cole and Miller also were the guys stepping up mostly while wade sat and watched guys basically win a ring for him with all the help in the world from referees vs Boston and okc.. then Ray Allen stepped up instead of wade in 2013..

the guy never won mvp and you shit on kobe for only winning 1. get the f*ck outa here you derelict f****t


https://youtu.be/Iou1L27tyZI

what in the utter living fck are you saying to me right now? Point out in my post where I said anything about kobe winning anything

my gawd that kobe d1ck is buried so far up your ass even king arthur couldn't drag it out. This shiit about the refs and wade is a just a bunch of cry baby bull shit that keeps getting regurgitated by dumb people that didn't watch the series. The mavs were doubling him because they could not stop him, he was slashing through double teams at will and finishing over 7 footers. Go point me to these fouls that didn't happen, make me a highlight vid and I'll shut up about it. Wade absolutely was completely un-guardable

bron ruined his career just like bron ruins everyones career, no one goes and plays with that guy and comes out and unscathed. The only person that is even remotely noteworthy is kyrie, and ever since he got done with bron he's been a complete and utter nut job. So blame it on bron, not on wade who was forced to take a step back and become another one of bron's stand around and shoot 3's guy.

wade is a MUCH better ball handler, and a MUCH better slasher than kobe. Kobe can shoot better, but wade shoots just fine from the mid range which is all he needs. And you're not about to just leave him open on the 3 point line, because no one does like they do with ben simmons among others who actually CAN'T shoot.

I can also post vids of wade lighting kobe up with a MUCH worse team around him, wade had no issues with kobe he routinely dropped 30+ on the lakers when they played and was a devastating force on BOTH ends. Kobe has been lit up by so many people it's rediculous, gilbert arenas flat out said that kobe doesn't have the foot speed to stay with him. You can have your own opinion because you're biased as fck, but kobe bryant had super star treatment from refs as much any player in this league.. so you calling wade out for that crap? LOL

Watch this vid of carmelo anthony flat out abusing him and the refs come and save the day https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MDdiSCt1zVU Watch that shit kenneth, watch the refs bail kobe out and protect him from contact with melo, then get more mad.

edit: that might actually be the wrong vid but i'm not spending time looking for it, if anyone wants to argue that kobe doesn't get superstar treatment.. well you're just an idiot

[Shooter]

Ewing was an animal at his peak and is always looked at as a worse player than Hakeem and D-Rob so I dont agree with him being overrated. I agree with Reggie Miller though.

Reggie without a doubt :cheers:

[Im Still Ballin]

Kevin Garnett

[baudkarma]

I would say LeBron, though Kobe is close. The problem is that on this site, it's sometimes difficult to tell who's expressing their real opinion, and who's just trolling. There are way too many immature posters here who think trolling is original and clever.

[72-10]

It's hard to say if it's Kobe or LeBron, and it's not Wilt, that's for sure, and I'll tell you one other thing I think the most underrated is clearly Bird. Like, where are the Bird threads?

[1987_Lakers]

It's hard to say if it's Kobe or LeBron, and it's not Wilt, that's for sure, and I'll tell you one other thing I think the most underrated is clearly Bird. Like, where are the Bird threads?
Bird is routinely talked about. Not underrated at all.

[outofstomach]

lebron by far, whenever he’s losing it’s either his teammates, coaching staff, or “he did everything he could” injuries, etc. long list of excuses, when he wins he’s the GOAT and better than jordan and everyone should get on their knees to praise him.

[72-10]

Bird is routinely talked about. Not underrated at all.

Actually, there's probably more than 10 Jordan threads to every Bird thread on here, when there should be about 3 to 5 Bird threads to every 10 Jordan threads.

[Spain_]

guys that played between the Wilt Era and the Magic/Bird era are generally underrated.

Havlicek,Barry,Thurmond,Unseld etc.

[ClipperRevival]

On this site?

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[coastalmarker99]

On this site?

https://media1.tenor.com/images/1a6b48687a22ef14f40e7ab012e5a224/tenor.gif?itemid=13739141




Stop trolling ClipperRevival.

[ClipperRevival]

I'm not trolling. Thanks to wheels and his 50+ alts, LeBron is the most overrated player on this site.

[FKAri]

Actually, there's probably more than 10 Jordan threads to every Bird thread on here, when there should be about 3 to 5 Bird threads to every 10 Jordan threads.

People are far more interested in and adulate the guys who finish 1st. Even if the guys who came in 2nd and 3rd did so by a hair. Which is why GOATs are always overrated.

[Lebron23]

I'm not trolling. Thanks to wheels and his 50+ alts, LeBron is the most overrated player on this site.

4x nba champion, 4x finals mvp. He'll be more healthier next season.


lebron by far, whenever he’s losing it’s either his teammates, coaching staff, or “he did everything he could” injuries, etc. long list of excuses, when he wins he’s the GOAT and better than jordan and everyone should get on their knees to praise him.

Cry me a river fakkit

[90sgoat]

Ewing was an animal at his peak and is always looked at as a worse player than Hakeem and D-Rob so I dont agree with him being overrated. I agree with Reggie Miller though.

I remember watching Ewing around the mid 90s, second 3-peat, and always thinking "what's the big deal?" with Ewing.

Ewing had a big time rep in the 90s, everyone talked about him, like some kind of superstar, but when you watched him, it was sort of "meh".

Part of that was probably being too young to understand fundamental defense and that kind of thing, but Ewing at that point was not a great offensive player and mostly settled for jumpers.

Probably a great leader, sure, but looked a lot more like 36 year old Duncan than 26 year old Duncan.

[outofstomach]

4x nba champion, 4x finals mvp. He'll be more healthier next season.



Cry me a river fakkit
you are the weirdest poster on this site, you’re 30+ years old and worship another grown man :lol :lol

[TheCorporation]

4x nba champion, 4x finals mvp. He'll be more healthier next season.



Cry me a river fakkit

:lol :roll:

[getting_old]

Would your minds change on LeBron if he didn't resort to fakery and flopping and quitting so often?

He never had the mamba mentality.

[BarberSchool]

Russell Westbrick

[Spurs m8]

It is currently Lebron and it was Kobe 10 years ago.

Nba is just a product for media and they overrate players on purpose to increase value of the product they market.

1st reply pretty much nails it.

LeCola bringing the goods - as usual