MJ was 5/5 (100%)

[Shooter]

At missing the Finals without Pippen. He has a perfect record of 1st round exits or missing the playoffs without Pippen.

1985, 1986, 1987 2002, 2003

MJ is 100% after all :applause:

[3ball]

1985, 1986, 1987 2002, 2003





So you're knocks on Jordan are from when he was a rookie/sophomore (when everyone loses if they weren't drafted to a good team), or when he was 40?

It figures that you wouldn't have anything meaningful to knock the GOAT for.. that's how it's supposed to be.

[kenneth_griffin]

the reason we give jordan a pass when he lost without pippin is cause he was literally dominating on a level that hadn't been seen since wilt

and nobody wins without a 2nd guy except Hakeem in 94 with the best player in the world playing minor league baseball

lebron on the other hand shit the bed in the 2007 finals

he shit the bed vs Dwight in 2009

he shit the bed vs Boston in 2010

he shit the bed vs Dallas in 2011

he shit the bed for 6 games in 2013 before Ray Allen bailed him out

he shit the bed vs an air conditioner in 2014

he shit the bed in the 4th quarter of game 7 in 2016 before kyries shot

and in back to back years he shit the bed in every individual match-up with Durant eventually making him beg to have someone switch off onto him.

and most recently he shit the bed in his 2 years as a laker without Anthony davis being able to carry him to another finals

[Shooter]

So when he was a rookie/sophomore (when everyone loses if they weren't drafted to a good team), or when he was 40?

It figures that you wouldn't have anything meaningful to knock the GOAT for.. that's how it's supposed to be.

A 22, 23, and 24 year old "rookie" That's cute.

His failures without Pippen were 100%

5/5 the MJ formula :applause:

[FultzNationRISE]

https://i.pinimg.com/originals/44/96/c0/4496c0855caefd4aeb9988a300d0f8a0.gif

[3ball]

the reason we give jordan a pass when he lost without pippin is cause he was literally dominating on a level that hadn't been seen since wilt

and nobody wins without a 2nd guy except Hakeem in 94 with the best player in the world playing minor league baseball

lebron on the other hand shit the bed in the 2007 finals

he shit the bed vs Dwight in 2009

he shit the bed vs Boston in 2010

he shit the bed vs Dallas in 2011

he shit the bed for 6 games in 2013 before Ray Allen bailed him out

he shit the bed vs an air conditioner in 2014

he shit the bed in the 4th quarter of game 7 in 2016 before kyries shot

and in back to back years he shit the bed in every individual match-up with Durant eventually making him beg to have someone switch off onto him.

and most recently he shit the bed in his 2 years as a laker without Anthony davis being able to carry him to another finals


^^^ With or without Pippen, MJ played better than Lebron, so you're right that MJ shouldn't get blame for playing better

But Lebron also had some huge advantages... Lebron's first teams in the East or West had several years to develop into high seeds before entering the playoffs, while Jordan's first teams were forced into the playoffs in Year 1 as low seeds.

So the phrase "1-9" compares 3rd year high seeds to 1st year eight seeds.

But when Jordan had 3 healthy seasons to develop his team (88'), he won 50 games and made the 2nd Round just like 06' Lebron... In his 4th healthy season (89'), Jordan was vastly outperforming 07' Lebron against the champs.

Ultimately, the first low seed of Lebron's career equaled 1st Round loss (2021), just like Jordan's rookie and sophomore low seeds.. Otoh, prime Jordan's low seed kicked everyone's ass in 89'.

[dbugz]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/E3A5EbVXwAM0att?format=jpg&name=900x900

[Akeem34TheDream]

This thread is peak ISH.

[3ball]

1-9





Lebron's first teams in the East or West had several years to develop into high seeds before entering the playoffs, while Jordan's first teams were forced into the playoffs in Year 1 as low seeds.

So the phrase "1-9" compares 3rd year high seeds to 1st year eight seeds.

But when Jordan had 3 healthy seasons to develop his team (88'), he won 50 games and made the 2nd Round just like 06' Lebron... In his 4th healthy season (89'), Jordan was vastly outperforming 07' Lebron against the champs.

Ultimately, the first low seed of Lebron's career equaled 1st Round loss (2021), just like Jordan's rookie and sophomore low seeds.. Otoh, prime Jordan's low seed kicked everyone's ass in 89'.






1-9





rookie Pippen was an 8 ppg bench-warmer that MJ carried to the 2nd Round or ECF, while Lebron needed a 2-time all-star center to make the 06' Playoffs, along with a 22/5/5 all-defender acquisition and the future COY.

So Lebron always had high seeds and decorated teammates in a conference that 1-star teams were winning, while Jordan carried low seeds and undecorated role players in a conference that required a super-team to win it.

[FKAri]

Lebron's first teams in the East or West had several years to develop into high seeds before entering the playoffs, while Jordan's first teams were forced into the playoffs in Year 1 as low seeds.

So the phrase "1-9" compares 3rd year high seeds to 1st year eight seeds.

But when Jordan had 3 healthy seasons to develop his team (88'), he won 50 games and made the 2nd Round just like 06' Lebron... In his 4th healthy season (89'), Jordan was vastly outperforming 07' Lebron against the champs.

Ultimately, the first low seed of Lebron's career equaled 1st Round loss (2021), just like Jordan's rookie and sophomore low seeds.. Otoh, prime Jordan's low seed kicked everyone's ass in 89'.






rookie Pippen was an 8 ppg bench-warmer that MJ carried to the 2nd Round or ECF, while Lebron needed a 2-time all-star center to make the 06' Playoffs, along with a 22/5/5 all-defender acquisition and the future COY.

So Lebron always had high seeds and decorated teammates in a conference that 1-star teams were winning, while Jordan carried low seeds and undecorated role players in a conference that required a super-team to win it.

1-9

[Axe]

No pip? Forget about it.

[3ball]

No pip? Forget about it.


05' Zydrunas.... 17/9.. 2.1 blocks.. 19.5 PER.. 0.142 WS/48.. all-star
88' Pippen...........8/5.. 0.7 blocks.. 12.9 PER.. 0.066 WS/48.. bench-warmer


rookie Pippen was an 8 ppg bench-warmer that MJ carried to the 2nd Round or ECF, while Lebron needed a 2-time all-star center to make the 06' Playoffs, along with a 22/5/5 all-defender acquisition and the future COY.

So Lebron always had high seeds and decorated teammates in a conference that 1-star teams were winning, while Jordan carried low seeds and undecorated role players in a conference that required a super-team to win it.

[Shooter]

This thread is peak ISH.

<3

[Shooter]

05' Zydrunas.... 17/9.. 2.1 blocks.. 19.5 PER.. 0.142 WS/48.. all-star
88' Pippen...........8/5.. 0.7 blocks.. 12.9 PER.. 0.066 WS/48.. bench-warmer


rookie Pippen was an 8 ppg bench-warmer that MJ carried to the 2nd Round or ECF, while Lebron needed a 2-time all-star center to make the 06' Playoffs, along with a 22/5/5 all-defender acquisition and the future COY.

So Lebron always had high seeds and decorated teammates in a conference that 1-star teams were winning, while Jordan carried low seeds and undecorated role players in a conference that required a super-team to win it.

The MJ 5 for 5

100% chance of not escaping the 1st round if Pippen isn't on the team

:applause:

[3ball]

The MJ 5 for 5

100% chance of not escaping the 1st round if Pippen isn't on the team

:applause:



It isn't a knock and your attempt to find flaw in the GOAT failed

[Smoke117]

No Pip, no chips.

[Shooter]

It isn't a knock and your attempt to find flaw in the GOAT failed

Who said it was a flaw? I never said that word, I just posted pure facts about the MJ 5-for-5 100% result.

Although now that you mention it...

[3ball]

Lebron's first teams in the East or West had several years to develop into high seeds before entering the playoffs, while Jordan's first teams were forced into the playoffs in Year 1 as low seeds.

So the phrase "1-9" compares 3rd year high seeds to 1st year eight seeds.

But when Jordan had 3 healthy seasons to develop his team (88'), he won 50 games and made the 2nd Round just like 06' Lebron... In his 4th healthy season (89'), Jordan was vastly outperforming 07' Lebron against the champs.

Ultimately, the first low seed of Lebron's career equaled 1st Round loss (2021), just like Jordan's rookie and sophomore low seeds.. Otoh, prime Jordan's low seed kicked everyone's ass in 89'.






rookie Pippen was an 8 ppg bench-warmer that MJ carried to the 2nd Round or ECF, while Lebron needed a 2-time all-star center to make the 06' Playoffs, along with a 22/5/5 all-defender acquisition and the future COY.

So Lebron always had high seeds and decorated teammates in a conference that 1-star teams were winning, while Jordan carried low seeds and undecorated role players in a conference that required a super-team to win it.






No one

[Shooter]

No one

https://i.postimg.cc/nhLwtDbq/MJ-stainz-yikes.png

Is there no one else?

[Spurs m8]

MJ has the most turnovers in playoff HISTORY and most missed shots in playoff HISTORY.

Oh wait, that's LeLeader

[3ball]

Is there no one else?





Help needed to make Playoffs:

Jordan.... nothing
Lebron.... 2-time all-star center... 22/5/5 all-defender.. future COY


Help needed to make 2nd Round:

Jordan.... 8 ppg rookie
Lebron.... 2-time all-star center... 22/5/5 all-defender.. future COY


Help needed to win title

Jordan.... no 1b's or super-teams
Lebron.... 1b's and super-teams

[dbugz]

MJ has the most turnovers in playoff HISTORY and most missed shots in playoff HISTORY.

Oh wait, that's LeLeader

OP on desperation mode :roll: :roll: :roll:

LeTop11 :oldlol:

[Shooter]

MJ fans in

1985, 1986, 1987 = I didn't have enough help, that's why I got 1-9'd

1988 = I don't need help I did it myself!

Pippen joined the team in 1988 and the rest is history.

https://i.postimg.cc/dVQ29yyW/23hasAsaviorPIP.jpg

[And1AllDay]

MJ fans in

1985, 1986, 1987 = I didn't have enough help, that's why I got 1-9'd

1988 = I don't need help I did it myself!

Pippen joined the team in 1988 and the rest is history.

https://i.postimg.cc/dVQ29yyW/23hasAsaviorPIP.jpg

annnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnd

silenced :oldlol::oldlol:

[Cyrus334]

MJ fans in

1985, 1986, 1987 = I didn't have enough help, that's why I got 1-9'd

1988 = I don't need help I did it myself!

Pippen joined the team in 1988 and the rest is history.

https://i.postimg.cc/dVQ29yyW/23hasAsaviorPIP.jpg

https://i.postimg.cc/vB0wsT86/qMExJUd.jpg

[Shooter]

1988 1st round

FGA per game
MJ: 30.4
Pip: 10.2

Ah gee, MJ took 3x more shots I wonder how he got all those points :lol

FTA per game
MJ: 12.2
Pip: 1.2

Ah gee, MJ took 10x more free throw shots I wonder how he got all those points :lol

2 ez baby

:hammertime::hammertime:

[Cyrus334]

1988 1st round
FGA per game
MJ: 30.4
Pip: 10.2

Ah gee, MJ took 3x more shots I wonder how he got all those points :lol


No shit? One's the star player of a team, the other is a rookie coming off the bench. Who tf else is gonna take those shots?



FTA per game
MJ: 12.2
Pip: 1.2

Ah gee, MJ took 10x more free throw shots I wonder how he got all those points :lol


See above.




2 ez baby

:hammertime::hammertime:


LeSlurpers really in desperation mode if this is the best they got lol

[3ball]

No shit? One's the star player of a team, the other is a rookie coming off the bench. Who tf else is gonna take those shots?



See above.


LeSlurpers really in desperation mode if this is the best they got lol


Rookie Pippen was an 8 ppg bench-warmer that MJ carried to the 2nd Round or ECF, while Lebron needed a 2-time all-star center to make the 06' Playoffs, along with a 22/5/5 acquisition and the future COY.

So Lebron always had high seeds and decorated teammates in a conference that 1-star teams were winning, while Jordan carried low seeds and undecorated role players in a conference that required a super-team to win it.

[Shooter]

https://i.pinimg.com/originals/44/96/c0/4496c0855caefd4aeb9988a300d0f8a0.gif

https://i.postimg.cc/sgvGPpB0/6s3PC5F.gif

[Shooter]

Rookie Pippen was an 8 ppg bench-warmer that MJ carried to the 2nd Round or ECF, while Lebron needed a 2-time all-star center to make the 06' Playoffs, along with a 22/5/5 acquisition and the future COY.

So Lebron always had high seeds and decorated teammates in a conference that 1-star teams were winning, while Jordan carried low seeds and undecorated role players in a conference that required a super-team to win it.

You gave Pippen 3x less shots than MJ and wanted him to do what? Score more? :lol MJ isn't a good passer or good at playmaking so he turned Pippen into a spot up shooter. That's why it took MJ 8 seasons to finally win a championship. Jordan ball wasn't working. Once he learned how to get his teammates involved and stop taking all the shots he won. Imagine that.

[3ball]

You gave Pippen 3x less shots than MJ and wanted him to do what? Score more? :lol MJ isn't a good passer or good at playmaking so he turned Pippen into a spot up shooter. That's why it took MJ 8 seasons to finally win a championship. Jordan ball wasn't working. Once he learned how to get his teammates involved and stop taking all the shots he won. Imagine that.


Jordan averaged more apg or assist percentage than Pippen in the regular season, playoffs and Finals - he actually assists 33% more often than Pippen in the playoffs.

So you're just lying about the passing and assists.. Jordan assisted 33% more often, while doubling Pippen's scoring and getting more DPOY votes every year (goat load, by far).

And Luka's ball-dominance will have to change his style or collude to win, while Jordan didn't have to change anything - other than 1st Round losses in 86' and 87', Jordan had career-high usage in the 93', 97', or 98' Playoffs, and 36/7/8 in the 91-93' Finals...

So he didn't change or "tone it down" to win rings - he simply proved that his unprecedented style of winning (scoring champ carry-jobs) was the most dominant way to win (6/6).

[Shooter]

Jordan averaged more apg or assist percentage than Pippen in the regular season, playoffs and Finals - he actually assists 33% more often than Pippen in the playoffs.

So you're just lying about the passing and assists.. Jordan assisted 33% more often, while doubling Pippen's scoring and getting more DPOY votes every year (goat load, by far).

And Luka's ball-dominance will have to change his style or collude to win, while Jordan didn't have to change anything - other than 1st Round losses in 86' and 87', Jordan had career-high usage in the 93', 97', or 98' Playoffs, and 36/7/8 in the 91-93' Finals...

So he didn't change or "tone it down" to win rings - he simply proved that his unprecedented style of winning (scoring champ carry-jobs) was the most dominant way to win (6/6).

So let me get this straight.

1984, 1985, 1986 = 1-9 (three 1st round sweeps)
MJ stains: Jordan didn't have teammates to help!

1988 = Wins a playoff series (1st time ever :lol Snuck by the mighty Mark Price)
MJ stains: Jordan didn't need teammate help!

You're getting undressed itt bro

[Bawkish]

OP fishing for free charity tickets for Space Jam 2

[3ball]

So let me get this straight.

1984, 1985, 1986 = 1-9 (three 1st round sweeps)
MJ stains: Jordan didn't have teammates to help!

1988 = Wins a playoff series (1st time ever :lol Snuck by the mighty Mark Price)
MJ stains: Jordan didn't need teammate help!

You're getting undressed itt bro


Rookie Jordan could only improve the Bulls so much, so they had a low seed and underdog matchup in Round 1.

Otoh, 88' Jordan had the goat individual season, which achieved a high seed and easy 1st Round matchup.

Indeed.... As Jordan was entering his prime and starting to play at unprecedented levels, he led an 8 ppg rookie to a high seed (88'), while nearly beating the champs and making the Finals the following year (89').

[AirBonner]

MJ had Bookers impact until he got his own cp3 (Pippen)

[Shooter]

Rookie Jordan could only improve the Bulls so much, so they had a low seed and underdog matchup in Round 1.

Otoh, 88' Jordan had the goat individual season, which achieved a high seed and easy 1st Round matchup.

Indeed.... As Jordan was entering his prime and starting to play at unprecedented levels, he led an 8 ppg rookie to a high seed (88'), while nearly beating the champs and making the Finals the following year (89').

So Jordan needed:

Pippen, Grant, Oakley,

Just to beat Mark Price?

[Shooter]

MJ had Bookers impact until he got his own cp3 (Pippen)

Bingo. Everyone is a Jordan (failure) until they get their Pippen.

[3ball]

So Jordan needed:

Pippen, Grant, Oakley,

Just to beat Mark Price?


Jordan led a 8 ppg bench-warmer to the 2nd Round in a conference that required a super-team to win it

Lebron had the East all-star center in a conference that 1-star teams were winning

[kawhileonard2]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EkZFOkbWkAAj_YK?format=jpg&name=small
https://i.imgur.com/jmT8kJ6.png

[Full Court]

the reason we give jordan a pass when he lost without pippin is cause he was literally dominating on a level that hadn't been seen since wilt

and nobody wins without a 2nd guy except Hakeem in 94 with the best player in the world playing minor league baseball

lebron on the other hand shit the bed in the 2007 finals

he shit the bed vs Dwight in 2009

he shit the bed vs Boston in 2010

he shit the bed vs Dallas in 2011

he shit the bed for 6 games in 2013 before Ray Allen bailed him out

he shit the bed vs an air conditioner in 2014

he shit the bed in the 4th quarter of game 7 in 2016 before kyries shot

and in back to back years he shit the bed in every individual match-up with Durant eventually making him beg to have someone switch off onto him.

and most recently he shit the bed in his 2 years as a laker without Anthony davis being able to carry him to another finals

This is 100% spot on. But the Lebron sack-danglers are too dense to understand it, so they'll just keep going "1-9 hehehehehe" thinking they're extremely clever.

[Chick Stern]

MJ is NOT the All-time Playoffs SG assists leader

[ClipperRevival]

Tough week for Bron fans. Hang in there wheels.

[highwhey]

:roll::roll:

[sportjames23]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EkZFOkbWkAAj_YK?format=jpg&name=small
https://i.imgur.com/jmT8kJ6.png

https://media1.tenor.com/images/47150584347f873015f5e81ea7b8bf34/tenor.gif?itemid=13739141

[Shooter]

https://media1.tenor.com/images/47150584347f873015f5e81ea7b8bf34/tenor.gif?itemid=13739141

https://i.postimg.cc/wTqLqW76/SportJamesOwned.png

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[ClipperRevival]

https://media1.tenor.com/images/1a6b48687a22ef14f40e7ab012e5a224/tenor.gif?itemid=13739141

[Shooter]

https://media1.tenor.com/images/1a6b48687a22ef14f40e7ab012e5a224/tenor.gif?itemid=13739141

MJ was 5 for 5, 100% failure rate without Scottie Pippen


LeFam

https://media1.tenor.com/images/1a6b48687a22ef14f40e7ab012e5a224/tenor.gif?itemid=13739141

[dbugz]

Tough week for Bron fans. Hang in there wheels.

desperation mode :roll: :roll:

LeTop11 cemented :roll:

[TheCorporation]

MJ was 5 for 5, 100% failure rate without Scottie Pippen


LeFam

https://media1.tenor.com/images/1a6b48687a22ef14f40e7ab012e5a224/tenor.gif?itemid=13739141

[Shaquille O'Neal]

To the morons who said MJ couldn't do it without Pip - did you not watch Game 6 of the 1998 finals? What morons.

[TheMan]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EkZFOkbWkAAj_YK?format=jpg&name=small
https://i.imgur.com/jmT8kJ6.png

It's truly a miracle that overrated bum has won two rings...asterisks rings don't count. :facepalm

https://media1.tenor.com/images/1a6b48687a22ef14f40e7ab012e5a224/tenor.gif?itemid=13739141

[TheCorporation]

MJ had a perfect 5 for 5, 100% failure rate without Scottie Pippen


LeFam ouchea like:

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Guys? Rebuttal?

[dbugz]

MJ had a perfect 5 for 5, 100% failure rate without Scottie Pippen


LeFam ouchea like:

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Guys? Rebuttal?

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/E3A5EbVXwAM0att?format=jpg&name=900x900

[TheCorporation]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/E3A5EbVXwAM0att?format=jpg&name=900x900

LeQuatro :pimp:

[Manny98]

MJ was 5 for 5, 100% failure rate without Scottie Pippen


LeFam


https://media1.tenor.com/images/1a6b48687a22ef14f40e7ab012e5a224/tenor.gif?itemid=13739141

[Shooter]

MJ was 5 for 5, 100% failure rate without Scottie Pippen


LeFam


https://media1.tenor.com/images/1a6b48687a22ef14f40e7ab012e5a224/tenor.gif?itemid=13739141

:roll::roll:

[bullettooth]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EkZFOkbWkAAj_YK?format=jpg&name=small
https://i.imgur.com/jmT8kJ6.png

And that's why LeBron should never EVER be considering the GOAT, even by the likes of moron Bran rimjobbers on Insidehoops.

What an embarrassing resume.

[Spurs m8]

And that's why LeBron should never EVER be considering the GOAT, even by the likes of moron Bran rimjobbers on Insidehoops.

What an embarrassing resume.

What a list

[Airupthere]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/E3A5EbVXwAM0att?format=jpg&name=900x900

:oldlol::oldlol::oldlol:

[CountDracula]

“The War is over Prince James, you can rest now!” -MJ

https://i.ibb.co/LptNSXK/origin-gallery-uid-06-A8265-A-FCC3-4580-8724-9-D3-C07-FF0234-1623028206191-source-other.jpg (https://ibb.co/MNVBnxd)

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[TheCorporation]

“The War is over Prince James, you can rest now!” -MJ

https://i.ibb.co/LptNSXK/origin-gallery-uid-06-A8265-A-FCC3-4580-8724-9-D3-C07-FF0234-1623028206191-source-other.jpg (https://ibb.co/MNVBnxd)

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https://i.ibb.co/qgmj56m/3008593-C-B725-4277-9-FFA-0369-CDC54771.gif (https://imgbb.com/)

https://i.postimg.cc/vZbhrygm/Bird-6-0-vs-MJ.png


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[And1AllDay]

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