Doncic was the best player in Mavericks-Clippers series

[LeCola]

I agree that Kawhi was great but Doncic was the best player on the court. Just like Lebron in 2015 Finals.

He reminds me Jordan before Pippen. Doing everything, had great stats in first round playoff series but not enough to beat much higher seed teams without a good team.

[Mask the Embiid]

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[Chuckbe]

Gimme some of that Le'Cola yer sippin boyo

[Hamtaro CP3KDKG]

How can he do everything when he don't play any defense?

Kawhi was the best player in the series.

[Thenameless]

Defense counts, so no.

[Chuckbe]

How can he do everything when he don't play any defense?

Kawhi was the best player in the series.


Defense counts, so no.


Dude Kawhi is a great defender. Whole game he guarded Doncic.

However, Doncic has 46 points 14 assists.

Kawhi has 28 points 9 assists against weeker defence.

So, what does it mean:

a) Kawhi is not a good defender as you think.

or?

b) Doncic is much better on offence.

Which one? Can you answer it?

[FultzNationRISE]

I'd say it was pretty even.

Kawhi is the more consistent, automatic scorer. Luka's scoring is more explosive but inconsistent. Luka is a better facilitator. Kawhi is a better defender.

Ultimately a very similar impact. Basically if you could combine them into one guy, you'd have Lebron James.

[FultzNationRISE]

Dude Kawhi is a great defender. Whole game he guarded Doncic.

However, Doncic has 46 points 14 assists.

Kawhi has 28 points 9 assists against weeker defence.

So, what does it mean:

a) Kawhi is not a good defender as you think.

or?

b) Doncic is much better on offence.

Which one? Can you answer it?

It primarily means Kawhi's teammates were far superior and didn't need him to fill up the stat sheet the way Luka was required to.

[Ghost1]

I'd say it was pretty even.

Kawhi is the more consistent, automatic scorer. Luka's scoring is more explosive but inconsistent. Luka is a better facilitator. Kawhi is a better defender.

Ultimately a very similar impact. Basically if you could combine them into one guy, you'd have Lebron James.

6" + 6" = ...

[LeCola]

He is guarded by Kawhi and George. He is mostly doubled just he stepped the halfcourt.

However he had 35.7/10.3/7.9

It means:

he is

1st on points

1st on assists

17th on rebounds

in the 2021 playoffs.

Not only this series, we could also say best performance in all first round series in 2021 playoffs.

[FultzNationRISE]

6" + 6" = ...


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[fsvr54]

Dude Kawhi is a great defender. Whole game he guarded Doncic.

However, Doncic has 46 points 14 assists.

Kawhi has 28 points 9 assists against weeker defence.

So, what does it mean:

a) Kawhi is not a good defender as you think.

or?

b) Doncic is much better on offence.

Which one? Can you answer it?

He stopped Doncic from getting 60. Also he didn't guard him on every single possession.

[Chuckbe]

He is guarded by Kawhi and George. He is mostly doubled just he stepped the halfcourt.

However he had 35.7/10.3/7.9

It means:

he is

1st on points

1st on assists

17th on rebounds

in the 2021 playoffs.

Not only this series, we could also say best performance in all first round series in 2021 playoffs.

No. That belongs to Jokic.

[LeCola]

In game 7, 3 point shot stats:

Doncic: 5-11 (Mostly contested stepback threes)

Rest of team: 5-25 (Mostly open shots)

Can you explain that?

Doncic is mostly doubled, guarded by Kawhi. There is no way he finds some open threes.

But he made 5 of 11 attempts.

During this time, as a result of he is doubled, his teammates played 4 vs 3 all the game and found lots of open three point shots.

However, they could make only 5 of 25 shots.

Made threes are equal, but attempts are 14 higher. Also, mostly open shots.

Can you explain it?

[HBK_Kliq_2]

Not even close. Kawhi was 4 or 5 times better defensively and 4 or 5 times better in the clutch. Also look at their win share per 48 going into game 7:

Kawhi - .294

Luka - .106

Luka doesn't play defense and he's too overly ball dominant, pretty much a white tall westbrook

[HBK_Kliq_2]

He stopped Doncic from getting 60. Also he didn't guard him on every single possession.

Luka was like 7\25 shooting when Kawhi was actually guarding him this series, anybody who actually watched will tell you that unless their blind or something. Luka's points were all on switches while being defended by Zubac or Batum or Reggie Jackson mostly.

[Bronbron23]

I agree that Kawhi was great but Doncic was the best player on the court. Just like Lebron in 2015 Finals.

He reminds me Jordan before Pippen. Doing everything, had great stats in first round playoff series but not enough to beat much higher seed teams without a good team.

Idk man it's close. Luka was better offensively but he's also playing in a ball dominant system where he dominated the ball. Kawhi on the other hand was still great offensively but he did it in more of a team system. Plus he way way better on defense which is kind of half the game. Luka was great but give me kawhi if we're talking trying to win it all. Give me luka if we're just talking stats

[LeCola]

He stopped Doncic from getting 60. Also he didn't guard him on every single possession.

Kawhi (+ double teams) stopped Doncic from scoring 60. It is true.

Can you answer who stopped Kawhi?

How many times Kawhi doubled just after he reached half court? Which elite defenders (like Kawhi, George) defended Kawhi?

What would happen if Kawhi played in that Mavericks team, defended by Kawhi and doubled just after he stepped the half court?

[HBK_Kliq_2]

Idk man it's close. Luka was better offensively but he's also playing in a ball dominant system where he dominated the ball. Kawhi on the other hand was still great offensively but he did it in more of a team system. Plus he way way better on defense which is kind of half the game. Luka was great but give me kawhi if we're talking trying to win it all. Give me luka if we're just talking stats

Everybody tries to run away and avoid going at Kawhi's defense.

Everybody's eyes light up when they see Luka's defense.

Big difference. Also Kawhi lets his teammates actually dribble the ball once in a while hahahah

[HBK_Kliq_2]

Kawhi (+ double teams) stopped Doncic from scoring 60. It is true.

Can you answer who stopped Kawhi?

How many times Kawhi doubled just after he reached half court? Which elite defenders (like Kawhi, George) defended Kawhi?

What would happen if Kawhi played in that Mavericks team, defended by Kawhi and doubled just after he stepped the half court?

George didn't do anything defensively on Luka though, he was mostly getting scored on. The difference was Kawhi took the challenge in game 6 and guarded Luka which resulted in him having a bad game. Luka never took any defensive challenge to guard Kawhi or even George, he's a liability on defense.

[dirkdiggler41]

Kawhi has not been playing good defence and has avoided Luka until game 7. He would not put up the same numbers while guarding Luka.

[Mr.GOAT2408]

After this game 7 I'll go with Kawhi, better two-way player and can make an impact without needing ball in hand. Doncic rarely moves off ball, takes too many unnecessary dribbles to get to his spots, and isn't trying to lock up anyone on defense what's his excuse to tire out lmao

He ain't slick with his statpadding either, learned from his idol how to make his numbers look better than his actual impact

Kawhi and Durant are the two best small forwards since Larry Bird, no shame in either one of them being better than Doncic at this stage of his career

[HBK_Kliq_2]

After this game 7 I'll go with Kawhi, better two-way player and can make an impact without needing ball in hand. Doncic rarely moves off ball, takes too many unnecessary dribbles to get to his spots, and isn't trying to lock up anyone on defense what's his excuse to tire out lmao

He ain't slick with his statpadding either, learned from his idol how to make his numbers look better than his actual impact

Kawhi and Durant are the two best small forwards since Larry Bird, no shame in either one of them being better than Doncic at this stage of his career

Exactly. Kawhi's off ball game is like 10x better and i actually think Kawhi's 1 on 1 game is better as well.

[Micku]

Kawhi has not been playing good defence and has avoided Luka until game 7. He would not put up the same numbers while guarding Luka.


He guarded him in game 6 and game 7. And he guarded him pretty well. Luka pretty much scored whenever Kawhi wasn't on him. So, the stats in game 7 are a bit misleading.

Game 1-5, Kawhi didn't guarded him as much. Game 1-2, Luka destroyed Pat Bev. Game 3-5, he still destroyed not anyone name Kawhi. When Kawhi was on him, usually he called for a pick to get Zubac or a smaller guard. He would even take on PG or Morris.

Game 6, Kawhi would fight over the screen about 70% of the time and guard him. This screwed up Luka's offensive flow.

Game 7, in the first half, Kawhi switch on the picks and Luka feasted. In the second half, he could hardly score with Kawhi on him.


Like I would say Luka is better offensively than Kawhi is, but after Kawhi slowed him down in game 6 and 7, and still played great offensively, I think I would still have to say Kawhi. It's very close tho. But Kawhi guarding Luka is was one of the turning points of the series. I didn't think he had it in him anymore, but he did.

And the way he scored off the ball was great. He had some good looks and did dmg. Luka is great tho. Not taking anything from him. Give him a couple of years, I think he'll be the best player in the league.

[mehyaM24]

kawhi but not by much.


Exactly. Kawhi's off ball game is like 10x better and i actually think Kawhi's 1 on 1 game is better as well.

you say that like its a surprise. kawh does have a better iso game. he is less reliant on step back 3s and has big hands, which means better ball security. his inbetween game is on another tier, and that ultimately separates them.

[HBK_Kliq_2]

kawhi by not by much.



you say that like its a surprise. kawh does have a better iso game. he is less reliant on step back 3s and has big hands that enable him to be more careful with the ball. his inbetween game is on another tier, which ultimately separates them.

don't forget clippers lost to mavs by 50 earlier this season when kawhi didn't play hahaahahhaa

[LeCola]

Idk man it's close. Luka was better offensively but he's also playing in a ball dominant system where he dominated the ball. Kawhi on the other hand was still great offensively but he did it in more of a team system. Plus he way way better on defense which is kind of half the game. Luka was great but give me kawhi if we're talking trying to win it all. Give me luka if we're just talking stats

I think "Doncic is bad on defence" is just a myth. I don't say he is a great defender like Kawhi but it does not mean he is bad on defence.

In regular season almost all players perform bad on defence.

He played two playoff series and he was good on defence awesome on offence in those series.

If he is that bad on defence why didn't Kawhi and George pick him with screens/switchs and score combined 60-70 points in both series.