KD, Kyrie, and Old Blake > Bran, Kyrie, and Peak Love

[Ca$H]

Durant ball elevates his teammates while Bran ball does the opposite. Love, Bosh, and Wade were all victims of Bran ball.

[theman93]

Durant ball elevates his teammates while Bran ball does the opposite. Love, Bosh, and Wade were all victims of Bran ball.

I agree. They would probably take that 2016 Warriors team in 6.

[3ball]

No question - KD's teammates always look great alongside his skillset, while bran-ball reduces folks

[Hamtaro CP3KDKG]

Players in the season pre Bran Ball

Wade 27/7/5 on 48/30/76 + Top 5 in MVP voting
Davis 26/12/4 on 51/33/79
Bosh 24/11/2 on 52/36/80 + Top 10 in MVP voting
Love 26/13/4 on 46/38/82 + Top 10 in MVP voting
Kyrie 21/6/4 on 43/36/86
IT 29/6/3 on 46/38/91 + b2b AS and Top 5 in MVP voting
Antawn 22/9/3 on 47/35/75
Hughes 22/6/5 on 43/28/78 + Top 5 in DPOY voting
Ricky 21/6/5 on 41/36/75
Ingram 18/5/3 on 50/33/68
Mo 17/6/4 on 48/39/86
Rose 18/4/4 on 47/22/87
Big Z 17/8/2 on 44/78
George Hill 17/4/3 on 48/40/80
Hood 17/3/2 on 42/39/88
Boozer 16/11/3 on 52/17/77
Wally 15/3/2 on 42/42/90
JR 15/4/3 on 42/39/65
Clarkson 15/3/3 on 45/33/80
Crowder 14/6/2 on 46/40/81
Ray 14/3/3 on 46/45/92
KCP 14/3/3/2 on 43/38/79
Kuzma 16/6/2 on 45/37/71
Schroder 19/4/4 on 47/39/84 + runnerup 6MOY
Trez 19/7/2 on 58% - 6MOY
Drummond 18/15/3/2 on 53% - led league in rebounding





Washed up Blake having a renaissance with KD. :lol

Kyrie joining the pantheon of 50/40/90 seasons :oldlol:

[FKAri]

I prefer a man tell his teammates to get in line or get ****ed. And then win anyway. Alpha. This care bear hold hands and share the ball while sipping on soy latte is what's wrong with your generation. No balls and inverted penises on you lot.

[3ball]

I prefer a man tell his teammates to get in line or get ****ed. And then win anyway. Alpha. This care bear hold hands and share the ball while sipping on soy latte is what's wrong with your generation. No balls and inverted penises on you lot.


Lebron mostly lost, so who cares about the 1 time he fluked out LA or Cleveland... And 2/4 in Miami is pathetic

KD's teammates always look great alongside his skillset, while bran-ball reduces folks

[3ball]

Players in the season pre Bran Ball

Wade 27/7/5 on 48/30/76 + Top 5 in MVP voting
Davis 26/12/4 on 51/33/79
Bosh 24/11/2 on 52/36/80 + Top 10 in MVP voting
Love 26/13/4 on 46/38/82 + Top 10 in MVP voting
Kyrie 21/6/4 on 43/36/86
IT 29/6/3 on 46/38/91 + b2b AS and Top 5 in MVP voting
Antawn 22/9/3 on 47/35/75
Hughes 22/6/5 on 43/28/78 + Top 5 in DPOY voting
Ricky 21/6/5 on 41/36/75
Ingram 18/5/3 on 50/33/68
Mo 17/6/4 on 48/39/86
Rose 18/4/4 on 47/22/87
Big Z 17/8/2 on 44/78
George Hill 17/4/3 on 48/40/80
Hood 17/3/2 on 42/39/88
Boozer 16/11/3 on 52/17/77
Wally 15/3/2 on 42/42/90
JR 15/4/3 on 42/39/65
Clarkson 15/3/3 on 45/33/80
Crowder 14/6/2 on 46/40/81
Ray 14/3/3 on 46/45/92
KCP 14/3/3/2 on 43/38/79
Kuzma 16/6/2 on 45/37/71
Schroder 19/4/4 on 47/39/84 + runnerup 6MOY
Trez 19/7/2 on 58% - 6MOY
Drummond 18/15/3/2 on 53% - led league in rebounding





Washed up Blake having a renaissance with KD. :lol

Kyrie joining the pantheon of 50/40/90 seasons :oldlol:


Bro that's amazing - literally dozens of excellent players that people thought were trash after playing with Lebron

[Airupthere]

Players in the season pre Bran Ball

Wade 27/7/5 on 48/30/76 + Top 5 in MVP voting
Davis 26/12/4 on 51/33/79
Bosh 24/11/2 on 52/36/80 + Top 10 in MVP voting
Love 26/13/4 on 46/38/82 + Top 10 in MVP voting
Kyrie 21/6/4 on 43/36/86
IT 29/6/3 on 46/38/91 + b2b AS and Top 5 in MVP voting
Antawn 22/9/3 on 47/35/75
Hughes 22/6/5 on 43/28/78 + Top 5 in DPOY voting
Ricky 21/6/5 on 41/36/75
Ingram 18/5/3 on 50/33/68
Mo 17/6/4 on 48/39/86
Rose 18/4/4 on 47/22/87
Big Z 17/8/2 on 44/78
George Hill 17/4/3 on 48/40/80
Hood 17/3/2 on 42/39/88
Boozer 16/11/3 on 52/17/77
Wally 15/3/2 on 42/42/90
JR 15/4/3 on 42/39/65
Clarkson 15/3/3 on 45/33/80
Crowder 14/6/2 on 46/40/81
Ray 14/3/3 on 46/45/92
KCP 14/3/3/2 on 43/38/79
Kuzma 16/6/2 on 45/37/71
Schroder 19/4/4 on 47/39/84 + runnerup 6MOY
Trez 19/7/2 on 58% - 6MOY
Drummond 18/15/3/2 on 53% - led league in rebounding





Washed up Blake having a renaissance with KD. :lol

Kyrie joining the pantheon of 50/40/90 seasons :oldlol:

Not a fan of KD for following the footsteps of Lebron but I have to say the numbers speak for themselves. KD does not make teammates worse. Bronball does.

[FKAri]

KD's teammates always look great alongside his skillset, while bran-ball reduces folks
And? That's the beauty of the spectacle. I want to watch a Rambo movie. You want to watch some UN Peace keeper, pussi footing around bureaucratic obstacles who cries himself to sleep at night at humanity's injustices with soy milk in hand while he's lucky to get a tuggy from his wife who's cheating on him with Tyrone. Look I'm not one to judge but you and I have very little in common. You like what you like and I like what I like.

[Lebron23]

No current team in the NBA now is as good as the 2016 Warriors. Warriors beat the nets. And Durant quit like a puto just like in the 2016 nba playoffs

[theman93]

No current team in the NBA now is as good as the 2016 Warriors. Warriors beat the nets. And Durant quit like a puto just like in the 2016 nba playoffs

Nah this Nets team even without Harden would beat that Warriors team. Durant had them dead to rights with Russel freaking Westbrick. Kyrie and the Nets supporting cast is better than Westbrick and OKC's supporting cast.

[elementally morale]

And? That's the beauty of the spectacle. I want to watch a Rambo movie. You want to watch some UN Peace keeper, pussi footing around bureaucratic obstacles who cries himself to sleep at night at humanity's injustices with soy milk in hand while he's lucky to get a tuggy from his wife who's cheating on him with Tyrone. Look I'm not one to judge but you and I have very little in common. You like what you like and I like what I like.


Maybe basketball is not the best sport for you then. I have nothing against your taste. Rambo and whatnot. But you would probably be better off following individual sports like tennis or boxing.

Great basketball players like Jokic or Magic make good players around them better (and mediocre to bad players even worse). Individual players like LeBron will make good players a lot worse due to constant ball dominance and mediocre to bad players somewhat better via open shots. Rambo is okay in my book... not so much on a basketball court.

[Hamtaro CP3KDKG]

Nah this Nets team even without Harden would beat that Warriors team. Durant had them dead to rights with Russel freaking Westbrick. Kyrie and the Nets supporting cast is better than Westbrick and OKC's supporting cast.

This.

KD's teammates that series

Shitbrick
Ibaka
sophomore Adams
Dion Waiters
Andre Roberson
Enes Kanter
Anthony Morrow
Randy Foye
Nick Collison

:roll::roll:

[Lebron23]

Nah this Nets team even without Harden would beat that Warriors team. Durant had them dead to rights with Russel freaking Westbrick. Kyrie and the Nets supporting cast is better than Westbrick and OKC's supporting cast.

That Warriors team had an excellent team chemistry. And the bench were loaded.

[Lebron23]

Maybe basketball is not the best sport for you then. I have nothing against your taste. Rambo and whatnot. But you would probably be better off following individual sports like tennis or boxing.

Great basketball players like Jokic or Magic make good players around them better (and mediocre to bad players even worse). Individual players like LeBron will make good players a lot worse due to constant ball dominance and mediocre to bad players somewhat better via open shots. Rambo is okay in my book... not so much on a basketball court.

Just like Luka Doncic, but you liked Luka because he is white. Anyway I have a good news for you lakers won the championship last year. You disappeared in this forum after they won an NBA title.

[theman93]

That Warriors team had an excellent team chemistry. And the bench were loaded.

And Durant with a weak supporting cast took them to 7.

They were a great regular season team but they were no juggernaut in the playoffs.

[Lebron23]

And Durant with a weak supporting cast took them to 7.

They were a great regular season team but they were no juggernaut in the playoffs.

Durant and his team blew a 3-1 led

[Hamtaro CP3KDKG]

And Durant with a weak supporting cast took them to 7.

They were a great regular season team but they were no juggernaut in the playoffs.

They were only as great as they were in the RS because Draymond played 81 games, Steph played 79 and Klay played 80.

Your top 3 stars missing a combined 6 games NEVER happens. A lot of teams would have had far better records and we'd have seen more 70 win seasons if they were as lucky with injuries in the RS.

[theman93]

Durant and his team blew a 3-1 led

Exactly.

How does a 73 win team get down 3-1 in the WCF? It's like I said they were not a great post season team.

[elementally morale]

Just like Luka Doncic, but you liked Luka because he is white. Anyway I have a good news for you lakers won the championship last year. You disappeared in this forum after they won an NBA title.

I didn't disappear. I was in read only. I tend to go on and off having been here 20+ years now.

I don't like Luka nearly as much as I do Embiid or Jokic or Kawhi. You may try bringing race in here... but it just looks silly. I don't give a damn about skin color.

As for LeBron ball... sure, I don't like it. Didn't like it in Cleveland, didn't like it in Miami. Avoided watching when it was possible. It was a sad day when the Lakers signed him. Made me watch the Lakers less and less. He (LeBron) had half a year with the Lakers when he seemed to have changed his game... but it didn't last. So yeah, I'm watching other teams. I'm not a constant hater or anything... you don't see me making anti-LeBron threads. I just really am not entertained by LeBron ball. Never was.

[Lebron23]

I didn't disappear. I was in read only. I tend to go on and off having been here 20+ years now.

I don't like Luka nearly as much as I do Embiid or Jokic or Kawhi. You may try bringing race in here... but it just looks silly. I don't give a damn about skin color.

As for LeBron ball... sure, I don't like it. Didn't like it in Cleveland, didn't like it in Miami. Avoided watching when it was possible. It was a sad day when the Lakers signed him. Made me watch the Lakers less and less. He (LeBron) had half a year with the Lakers when he seemed to have changed his game... but it didn't last. So yeah, I'm watching other teams. I'm not a constant hater or anything... you don't see me making anti-LeBron threads. I just really am not entertained by LeBron ball. Never was.

Lakers are going to bounce back next year. They better trade Davis for Giannis.

[Lebron23]

Exactly.

How does a 73 win team get down 3-1 in the WCF? It's like I said they were not a great post season team.

Durant was heating up before he turned into a bitch when the Warriors were making a huge comeback.

[theman93]

Durant was heating up before he turned into a bitch when the Warriors were making a huge comeback.

We're talking about a veteran and championship experienced Durant, not 2016 Durant. This version of Durant with Kyrie and Brooklyn's supporting cast is much better than 2016 OKC. It's not even close. That being the case they would handle the '16 Warriors who were not a juggernaut playoff team.

[elementally morale]

Lakers are going to bounce back next year. They better trade Davis for Giannis.

Actually, I don't care if they will or won't. I'm following the NBA for the unfolding story over 30+ years, watching whole careers of players on (and sometimes off)the court. Watching them return as analysts and coaches. As for the games... I just want to see good, hard-fought, entertaining basketball. That's all. If the Lakers win again next year... fine. LeBron wins another ring? Okay. He doesn't? That's also fine. Neither will make me like his way of playing any more or less.

We are different. We like different styles and qualities in basketball. That is also fine. I prefer skill over physical dominance any day of the week. The Nash, Hakeem, Dirk, Jokic types of game. Being a physically dominant force like Embiid or Shaq... I prefer watching Embiid. Was Shaq better? Yes. I still prefer watching Embiid.

[Lebron23]

We're talking about a veteran and championship experienced Durant, not 2016 Durant. This version of Durant with Kyrie and Brooklyn's supporting cast is much better than 2016 OKC. It's not even close. That being the case they would handle the '16 Warriors who were not a juggernaut playoff team.

Durant is a front runner. Always been.

[Ca$H]

Durant and his team blew a 3-1 led

If KD had Kyrie on the thunder instead of Westbrick they would win in 6 games. Kyrie bailed out Bran with the game winner in game 7 of the finals. Bran also needed to get cheat and bait Draymond into a suspension.

[Lebron23]

If KD had Kyrie on the thunder instead of Westbrick they would win in 6 games. Kyrie bailed out Bran with the game winner in game 7 of the finals. Bran also needed to get cheat and bait Draymond into a suspension.

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[theman93]

Durant is a front runner. Always been.

Sure, but that's not the topic of discussion.

Swapping Wesbrick for Kyrie just by itself and OKC closes out the Warriors. Couple that with a better supporting cast and it's an even easier series for them.

[ImKobe]

LeBrick reduced Irving to an ISO scorer. With KD, Irving can play PG and their ball-movement has been on a whole 'nother level. Irving's also never looked more engaged on the defensive end. KD dominates without needing to handle the ball for half the possession like LeBubble, which is why the Nets are superior to the overrated 2016 Cavs squad, and would have beat the 2016 Warriors in 5-6 games.

[LeCola]

Let's look the conditions:

Irving = Irving
Old Blake > Peak Love

Does it mean;

Post injury Durant > Peak Lebron

Also, difference must be higher than the difference between Old Blake and Peak Love:

Post injury Durant - Peak Lebron > Peak Love - Old Blake

What about the:

Prime Durant vs Prime Lebron?

[ArbitraryWater]

Griffin > Love
Kyrie > 15-17 Kyrie

Harris >>> anyone after #3 on Cavs

[ImKobe]

Griffin > Love
Kyrie > 15-17 Kyrie

Harris >>> anyone after #3 on Cavs

Harris = Jr or Korver
Love > Griffin, TT and Griffin might be a wash, but TT's defense in the '16 Finals was key to their success
Kyrie = Kyrie , same players, just has the ball more in BK
KD >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Lebron

[tpols]

Nah this Nets team even without Harden would beat that Warriors team. Durant had them dead to rights with Russel freaking Westbrick. Kyrie and the Nets supporting cast is better than Westbrick and OKC's supporting cast.

Durant shot awfully in games 6 and 7 as well. If he shoots like that vs the warriors they lose.

[theman93]

Durant shot awfully in games 6 and 7 as well. If he shoots like that vs the warriors they lose.

Probably yeah but that was a different Durant. I don’t think a veteran and championship experienced Durant fails to close up 3-1.