Top 100 Wrestlers of all time

[kenneth_griffin]

since you guys might start up your little draft again i figured i would post a cheat sheet for the people on here that don't know shit about wrestling

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#1 - Hulk Hogan ( made wwe go world wide and helped wcw pass wwe for 2 years )
#2 - Stone Cold Steve Austin ( took wwe to its highest peak )
#3 - The Rock ( rival to austin during wrestlings peak )
#4 - The Nature Boy Ric Flair ( most respected/imitated character/most longevity )
#5 - Andre The Giant ( biggest spectacle/sideshow act )
#6 - Macho Man Randy Savage ( most all around superstar with look/promo/skill )
#7 - Bret Hitman Hart ( best technical wrestler, best story teller/ring psychology )
#8 - Shawn Michaels ( most skilled in ring performer, rivalled bret for best matches )
#9 - The Undertaker ( most memorable character )
#10 - Roddy Rowdy Piper ( most hated heel )
#11 - Dusty Rhodes ( 2nd most loved of the 80's )
#12 - Sting ( helped carry wcw for almost a decade )
#13 - Harley Race ( almost the same level as dusty )
#14 - Bruno Sammartino ( carried wwe for a decade )
#15 - Antonio Inoki ( most respected foreign wrestler )
#16 - The Nature Boy Buddy Rogers ( the original ric flair )
#17 - Chris Jericho ( only gets better with age )
#18 - Vern Gange ( pioneer )
#19 - Lou Thesz ( pioneer )
#20 - Nick Bockwinkel ( pioneer )
#21 - Barry Windham ( pioneer )
#22 - Superstar Billy Graham ( original hulk hogan )
#23 - John Cena ( carried wwe for a decade during its decline into irrelevancy )
#24 - The Texas Tornado Kerry Von Erich ( what could have been )
#25 - Mick Foley/Cactus Jack/Mankind ( hardcore legend )
#26 - Rey Mysterio ( rivals shawn michaels as best in ring performer )
#27 - Eddie Guerrero ( triple threat like macho )
#28 - Bob Backlund ( carried wwe for 5 years )
#29 - Dory Funk Jr ( pioneer )
#30 - Bruiser Brody ( pioneer )
#31 - Terry Funk ( hardcore legend )
#32 - Dynamite Kid ( original chris benoit )
#33 - Mr Perfect Curt Hennig ( only behind shawn and rey in the ring )
#34 - Kurt Angle ( triple threat )
#35 - Chris benoit ( 4th best in ring performer ever )
#36 - Tiger Mask ( 5th best in ring performer ever )
#37 - The Rocket Owen Hart ( 6th best in ring performer ever )
#38 - Dean malenko ( bret hart without the adequate size, character or push )
#39 - Jushin Thunder Liger ( 7th best in ring performer ever )
#40 - Ricky The Dragon Steamboat ( triple threat )
#41 - CM Punk ( legendary mic skills and technique in the ring )
#42 - Jake the snake Roberts ( greatestest heel talker ever. solid wrestler. great gimmick )
#43 - Sabu ( biggest risk taker ever after mick foley )
#44 - RVD ( had his own style )
#45 - Brian Pillman ( character and skill )
#46 - The Great Muta ( character and skill )
#47 - Ultimo Dragon ( 8th best in ring performer ever )
#48 - Randy Orton ( triple threat )
#49 - Kane ( an all time great gimmick )
#50 - Edge ( character and skill )
#51 - Jeff Hardy ( 3rd biggest risk taker )
#52 - Goldberg ( legendary push, fastest ascension )
#53 - Brock Lesnar ( great longevity, most believable and feared in real life after haku )
#54 - William/Steve Regal ( character and skill )
#55 - The British Bulldog Davey Boy Smith ( look and skill )
#56 - Ultimate Warrior ( 2nd fastest push/ascension )
#57 - Scott Hall/Razor Ramon ( triple threat )
#58 - Rick Rude ( Look and Character )
#59 - Jerry the king lawler ( Pioneer )
#60 - Arn Anderson ( believable )
#61 - Mr Wonderful Paul Orndorff ( one of the most hated )
#62 - Tito Santana ( extremely skilled )
#63 - Rick the Model Martel ( character and skill )
#64 - Pedro Morales ( pioneer )
#65 - Stan Hansen ( pioneer )
#66 - Georgeous George ( pioneer )
#67 - Iron Sheik ( one of the most hated )
#68 - Greg The Hammer Valentine ( very tough and believable )
#69 - Big Van Vader ( very skilled big man )
#70 - Tully Blanchard ( pioneer )
#71 - Dr Death Steve Williams ( pioneer )
#72 - AJ Styles ( solid dead era wrestler )
#73 - Daniel Bryan ( solid dead era wrestler )
#74 - Big Papa Pump Scott Steiner ( good wrestler before steroids, great character after steroids )
#75 - Triple H ( good heel, pushed too much but very solid )
#76 - Jimmy Super fly Snuka ( first high flyer )
#77 - Kenny omega ( most talented wrestler over the past 5 years )
#78 - The Total Package Lex Luger ( character and look )
#79 - Ricky Morton ( pioneer )
#80 - Gene Kiniski ( pioneer )
#81 - Tatsumi Fujinami ( pioneer )
#82 - Akira Maeda ( pioneer )
#83 - Mitsuharu Misawa ( pioneer )
#84 - Stan Hansen ( pioneer )
#85 - Road Warrior Hawk ( half of the goat tag team )
#86 - Road Warrior Animal ( other half of the goat tag team )
#87 - Sgt. Slaughter ( character/promo and one of the most hated ever )
#88 - Ron Simmons/Farooq ( first black world champion )
#89 - Abdula the butcher ( pioneer for black wrestlers )
#90 - Million Dollar Man Ted Dibiase ( one of the most memorable characters )
#91 - Junkyard dog ( pioneer for black wrestlers )
#92 - George the animal Steel ( one of the most memorable characters )
#93 - Diamond Dallas Page ( latest start to a legendary career )
#94 - Big Show/The Giant/Captain Insano ( best andre rip off )
#95 - Diesel/Kevin Nash ( very good heel. horrible baby face. changed the way wrestlers are paid forever )
#96 - Captain Redneck Dick Murdoch ( pioneer )
#97 - Jeff Jarrett ( created a rival promotion for wwe as a top star )
#98 - Christian ( great worker and character )
#99 - Goldust/The natural Dustin Rhodes ( one of the most memorable characters and best workers )
#100 - Cody Rhodes ( created a rival promotion for wwe as a top star )

[Lebron23]

Solid lists bro

[MrFonzworth]

https://youtu.be/-9jsJiubPrI

[highwhey]

https://youtu.be/-9jsJiubPrI

:roll:

[bobopenguin]

undertaker 9?

[kenneth_griffin]

undertaker 9?

hes arguably the greatest gimmick but he was never actually the top guy at any moment. even when he was champion he didn't carry the company.

90 was warrior
91 was ric flair/hogan
92 to 94 was bret
95 was Diesel
96 was shawn
97 to 99 was Austin
2000 to 2001 was rock
2002 was hogan again
2003 was goldberg/brock
2004 was triple H
2005 to 2011 was Cena
2012 to 2013 was CM punk
2014 to 2015 was Cena
2016 to 2018 was Brock
2019 to 2021 is Roman Reigns



PWI also never put him as the top guy

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pro_Wrestling_Illustrated#PWI_500

[Code Breaker]

Where is Booker T?

[Code Breaker]

Kurt Angle should be much higher he had the full package very few wrestlers had.

[kenneth_griffin]

Where is Booker T?

kind of a joke in wwe

totally overrated. not better than anyone I mentioned

he was basically put in wwe to get made fun of by the rock and stone cold. he was great in Harlem heat but his run at the top of wcw is mainly why they went out of business. vince russo didn't have a clue that hogan was still the top draw and he proved it with his return to wwe a few years later.

the king booker stuff was just sad. he has a great life story. not a great wrestling one

[kenneth_griffin]

Kurt Angle should be much higher he had the full package very few wrestlers had.

his run in wwe was like 5 years. had to lower him like warrior for that exact same reason. the tna stuff was ok but anyone can be at the top in a place like that. he wasted his career popping pills. had he wrestled in wwe for 15 to 20 years I would have him right there with jericho in the top 20

[Charlie Sheen]

kind of a joke in wwe

totally overrated. not better than anyone I mentioned

he was basically put in wwe to get made fun of by the rock and stone cold. he was great in Harlem heat but his run at the top of wcw is mainly why they went out of business. vince russo didn't have a clue that hogan was still the top draw and he proved it with his return to wwe a few years later.

the king booker stuff was just sad. he has a great life story. not a great wrestling one


WWE buried all the WCW guys. That said, I don't understand what puts Randy Orton around top 50 all time while Book doesn't even make it. What exactly does orton do so much better besides being pushed harder than anyone else?

Not being a hater, I liked your list and reading the comments. :cheers:

Can't get on board with you about booker t though

[Patrick Chewing]

No gripe with the list other than I would swap The Rock and Stone Cold. I would also move Kurt Angle a bit higher because he was probably the best and most skilled athlete that's ever wrestled.


My defense of Booker T being on there is because he was a top draw in WCW's last days and the WWE kind of buried him a bit, but his feud with Stone Cold Steve Austin was one of the best I've ever seen. That supermarket brawl to this day is the best out of the ring brawl the WWE has ever produced. Even better than The Rock throwing Stone Cold Steve Austin off a bridge.

[kenneth_griffin]

WWE buried all the WCW guys. That said, I don't understand what puts Randy Orton around top 50 all time while Book doesn't even make it. What exactly does orton do so much better besides being pushed harder than anyone else?

Not being a hater, I liked your list and reading the comments. :cheers:

Can't get on board with you about booker t though

randy orton has been a main event top title contender or holder for almost 20 years

booker T has never held the top title or really been in the main event picture on raw aside from his initial joke feuds with stone cold and the rock where they made him into a comedy routine

it might say booker T is a 5 or 6 time champion but I think 4 of them came in wcw during its final days not making any money. booker didnt draw a dime.. and the 2 big gold belts he win in wwe were secondary titles. 1 during the invasion story line I believe where there was a wwe champion and wcw champion. then later on he won the smackdown big gold belt


it was never a goldberg or triple H world heavyweight title run on raw ( the #1 brand)

orton on the other hand has been one of the top draws in wwe forever and won the legit wwe title like 9 or 10 times I think. he is looked at as right now the most all around best and most valuable wrestler. he has a 10/10 look. a 9/10 promo and is an 8/10 wrestler. nobody else really comes close right now. hes the last of a dying breed of glory day era wrestlers. and hes still at the tail end of his prime while jericho is nearing the end

ortons fueded with nearly everyone and had popular rko memes go super viral. hes probably never been the most popular wrestler at any given point but that's mostly due to him being a bad guy 99% of the time and wwe always wanting to push roman or Cena to sell tickets to kids and families.

orton has never been looked at as a comedic wrestler. bookers entire wwe career was been very rakishi-esq where he's known more for a dance move than any of his matches


can you even think of a single great booker T match?.. his finisher is a rock bottom rip off. the grocery store fight with stone cold was a top 5 moment ever. but that's only because Austin dragged him around mopping the floor with his a** while slapping diapers on him and covering him with baby powder and many kinds of food.

when he got to wwe the rock said "who are you?" which caused sting to avoid going there for his entire prime. I dont remember the rock saying that to goldberg. so its not just a gimmick. it was a real legitimate lack of respect. and for good reason because he bankrupted a company as champion under vince russos direction and was a 2nd tier show star with a 2nd tier belt for a small amount of time before running to tna and retiring early. he is nowhere near a randy orton level talent. please stop

[Charlie Sheen]

randy orton has been a main event top title contender or holder for almost 20 years

booker T has never held the top title or really been in the main event picture on raw aside from his initial joke feuds with stone cold and the rock where they made him into a comedy routine

it might say booker T is a 5 or 6 time champion but I think 4 of them came in wcw during its final days not making any money. booker didnt draw a dime.. and the 2 big gold belts he win in wwe were secondary titles. 1 during the invasion story line I believe where there was a wwe champion and wcw champion. then later on he won the smackdown big gold belt


it was never a goldberg or triple H world heavyweight title run on raw ( the #1 brand)

orton on the other hand has been one of the top draws in wwe forever and won the legit wwe title like 9 or 10 times I think. he is looked at as right now the most all around best and most valuable wrestler. he has a 10/10 look. a 9/10 promo and is an 8/10 wrestler. nobody else really comes close right now. hes the last of a dying breed of glory day era wrestlers. and hes still at the tail end of his prime while jericho is nearing the end

ortons fueded with nearly everyone and had popular rko memes go super viral. hes probably never been the most popular wrestler at any given point but that's mostly due to him being a bad guy 99% of the time and wwe always wanting to push roman or Cena to sell tickets to kids and families.

orton has never been looked at as a comedic wrestler. bookers entire wwe career was been very rakishi-esq where he's known more for a dance move than any of his matches


can you even think of a single great booker T match?.. his finisher is a rock bottom rip off. the grocery store fight with stone cold was a top 5 moment ever. but that's only because Austin dragged him around mopping the floor with his a** while slapping diapers on him and covering him with baby powder and many kinds of food.

when he got to wwe the rock said "who are you?" which caused sting to avoid going there for his entire prime. I dont remember the rock saying that to goldberg. so its not just a gimmick. it was a real legitimate lack of respect. and for good reason because he bankrupted a company as champion under vince russos direction and was a 2nd tier show star with a 2nd tier belt for a small amount of time before running to tna and retiring early. he is nowhere near a randy orton level talent. please stop

Booker made a bad business decision. No one gave more of themself to the WWE in the invsasion angle. It could be said he carried the WWE by jobbing to their top talent.

Orton was always the chosen one by WWE. He was a safe pick. He was pushed HARD, but Cena was the guy the fans chose.

You don't like Booker and I don't like Orton. :cheers:

[kenneth_griffin]

Booker made a bad business decision. No one gave more of themself to the WWE in the invsasion angle. It could be said he carried the WWE by jobbing to their top talent.

Orton was always the chosen one by WWE. He was a safe pick. He was pushed HARD, but Cena was the guy the fans chose.

You don't like Booker and I don't like Orton. :cheers:



lol wtf. he carried the wwe during a time when they had

stone cold Steve Austin
the rock
Kurt angle
chris benoit
Eddie guerrero
kane
the undertaker
mick Foley
chris jericho
big show
Jeff Hardy
edge
triple H
rob van dam
???

the feud was for a few months. carried? lmao the rock could go out with a broom stick and sell out an arena

and I loved watching Booker. same as I loved watching rakishi, doink, the boogeyman, Santino Marella, heath slater and other comedic wrestlers

[Charlie Sheen]

lol wtf. he carried the wwe during a time when they had

stone cold Steve Austin
the rock
Kurt angle
chris benoit
Eddie guerrero
kane
the undertaker
mick Foley
chris jericho
big show
Jeff Hardy
edge
triple H
rob van dam
???

the feud was for a few months. carried? lmao the rock could go out with a broom stick and sell out an arena

You're focusing on "carried" and missing the larger point. There was no invasion angle if Booker doesn't eat losses to the WWE's top guys Angle, Rock and Austin

[kenneth_griffin]

You're focusing on "carried" and missing the larger point. There was no invasion angle if Booker doesn't eat losses to the WWE's top guys Angle, Rock and Austin

If the real top stars of wcw went to wwe during the invasion Booker T probly never gets a job

I would much rather have seen hogan, hall, nash, sting, goldberg, steiner, macho, sid, jarrett

he was the top guy coming over because he was literally the only guy that opted out if his wcw guaranteed money


even flair coming out of retirement instead of being an office man gimmick would have been a better option to feud with austin.

even a crippled bret hart would have been more legitimate lmao

booker T and ddp with no hair made wcw look like an utter failure and is why vince buried the brand and didn't make a show like he did with ecw

[kenneth_griffin]

and booker T is lucky jericho, malenko, benoit, guerrero and big show already jumped before the fall of wcw or else booker T literally ends up homeless selling drugs and robbing fast food joints to pay his rent again

[Code Breaker]

Tell us how you really feel about Booker T. Dude had the Wrestling skills ,Promos, charisma that most Wrestlers wished they had. Also most wrestlers that performed with him had nothing but positive things to say about him. (Also bonus points for beating up a cocky Batista in the locker room). He carried his matches with Batista and Triple H in Wrestlemania. Have some more respect lol.

[kenneth_griffin]

Tell us how you really feel about Booker T. Dude had the Wrestling skills ,Promos, charisma that most Wrestlers wished they had.

name a great match he had

I never said he had a bad gimmick

and I know there's guys on my list that weren't the best wrestlers either but they all did more for the business than booker T

one of the last guys I listed was Dustin Rhodes.. a guy that's been in wrestling his entire life and been one of the top workers in the ring as well as in promos and re invented himself countless times and is still relevant today having matches of the year with Cody while booker T is doing podcasts. and Dustin started BEFORE booker


at best you could bump Cody for booker but for how long? because he's the creator of AEW and its about to take over as the top wrestling brand in the world

I just don't see the impact of a booker aside from a few laughs

[kenneth_griffin]

I think what it comes down to is.. booker T is black


that's really the issue here. how can a popular black wrestler not be top 100

boo hoo lol


BECAUSE HE ISNT THATS WHY

:no:


maybe top 150 with guys like sid, there's another guy that had a bigger impact and didn't even make my list

sid was wwe champion during the golden era. booker couldn't even become wwe champion at a time when nobodies were winning it

sid took it off bret AND shawn I think lmao

[kenneth_griffin]

batista and JBL deserve a spot before booker too

[BurningHammer]

Taker should be above Savage.

[JohnnySic]

Solid list but Goldberg should be higher. At his WCW peak he was a top 3 guy with Austin and Rock in terms of popularity. Also perhaps the greatest power guy ever.

[kenneth_griffin]

Taker should be above Savage.


savage was arguably on the same level as hogan for a few years during hogan's peak

in terms of overall career undertaker probly has a case for top 3 with hogan/flair but I took into consideration the level each guy reached also and undertaker was never the top guy or an equal to hogan.

savage was as close to perfect as it gets. 10/10 look, 10/10 promo, 9/10 wrestler

his match with Ricky Steamboat is arguably the best wrestlemania match ever. and it wasn't just 100 finisher kick outs like taker vs shawn. it was choreographed start to finish with no wasted motion.. nobody imitates the undertaker but everyone says wooo, ooh yeah, brother etc..

taker is the most skilled big man in the ring but even with that being said he never sold anything. that was his gimmick though. we'll never know if he could make anything look painful

so there's some serious knocks on taker but he has a top 3 longevity. top 1 gimmick and top 10 overall spot all time. the guys ahead of him are just slightly better IMO. some might say taker is #1 but I don't ever remember savage showing up once a year for wrestlemania the last 10 years he wrestled. he was a real worker

[kenneth_griffin]

Solid list but Goldberg should be higher. At his WCW peak he was a top 3 guy with Austin and Rock in terms of popularity. Also perhaps the greatest power guy ever.




like with warrior I gotta dock a guy for only having a 2 year run.. both are top 10 characters all time but it just didn't last long enough

[BurningHammer]

Also, there is no:

- Giant Baba (better promoter than Inoki, actually won NWA Heavyweight belt many times, etc)
- El Santo (the most popular and most influential luchadore ever, starred in actual movies under mask, etc)
- Kenta Kobashi (the #1B of Four Pillars along with Misawa, top star in both AJPW and NOAH, has tons of 5-star matches, etc)
- Mil Mascaras (one of the most influential luchadores along with El Santo and Blue Demon)
- Fabulous Moolah (dominated women's wrestling scene for decades)
- Carlos Colon (the biggest name in Puerto Rican wrestling, founder of WWC)
- Jesse Ventura (one of the greatest talkers pro wrestling ever produced, former Governor of Minnesota, etc)
- Michael Hayes (the leader of a very successful trio Freebirds in Southern territories)

etc.

[JohnnySic]

A couple of other minor things:

- You're overrating Curt Hennig a bit as an in-ring performer. He was excellent but nothing extraordinary on an all-time level. Benoit, Guerrero, Angle were better.

- Lex Luger should be somewhere on the list. Yeah, he sucked, but he had a long run, won a lot of titles, and had some big moments.

[kenneth_griffin]

Also, there is no:

- Giant Baba (better promoter than Inoki, actually won NWA Heavyweight belt many times, etc)
- El Santo (the most popular and most influential luchadore ever, starred in actual movies under mask, etc)
- Kenta Kobashi (the #1B of Four Pillars along with Misawa, top star in both AJPW and NOAH, has tons of 5-star matches, etc)
- Mil Mascaras (one of the most influential luchadores along with El Santo and Blue Demon)
- Fabulous Moolah (dominated women's wrestling scene for decades)
- Carlos Colon (the biggest name in Puerto Rican wrestling, founder of WWC)
- Jesse Ventura (one of the greatest talkers pro wrestling ever produced, former Governor of Minnesota, etc)
- Michael Hayes (the leader of a very successful trio Freebirds in Southern territories)

etc.



theres only 100 spots. who do you bump. Cody is the only guy I can think of and I would probly put JBL in his place.

Hayes was nothing more than a drunk. ventura was more of a commentator, I'm not putting women on the list and if I was then I couldn't put moolah without Chyna, Medusa, Lita, Trish, Gail Kim, Sherri, aj Lee, Charlotte etc...

baba, El Santo, kobashi maybe. but then who gets bumped

[kenneth_griffin]

A couple of other minor things:

- You're overrating Curt Hennig a bit as an in-ring performer. He was excellent but nothing extraordinary on an all-time level. Benoit, Guerrero, Angle were better.

- Lex Luger should be somewhere on the list. Yeah, he sucked, but he had a long run, won a lot of titles, and had some big moments.



ask bret hart who the best guy he ever wrestled was

its not all about back flips or jumping off cages

ring psychology and execution is a big factor. benoit was a top notch wrestler but the guy smashed his head in so many times his brain turned to mush. not exactly on hennigs level. Kurt Angle also beat his body to death performing high risk stuff. part of wrestling skill is performing moves safely

I could go back and watch curt henning matches 100 times over

[Wally450]

Booker T > Cody Rhodes

[kenneth_griffin]

Booker T > Cody Rhodes

JBL > booker T though.

[Manny98]

OP actually knows his wrestling :cheers:

Shame he turns into a complete retard when discussing Basketball tho :facepalm

[Gruppenführer]

Where on that list is Das Wunderkind Alex Wright??

[BurningHammer]

theres only 100 spots. who do you bump. Cody is the only guy I can think of and I would probly put JBL in his place.

Hayes was nothing more than a drunk. ventura was more of a commentator, I'm not putting women on the list and if I was then I couldn't put moolah without Chyna, Medusa, Lita, Trish, Gail Kim, Sherri, aj Lee, Charlotte etc...

baba, El Santo, kobashi maybe. but then who gets bumped

I mean, they got bumped by Barry freakin' Windham. He, but no mean a very good big man in 80's and was very successful in Florida territory scene, is not that memorable when the 90's came; being the least important member of Four Horsemen, winning NWA Heavyweight title right before WCW abandoned it, and his terrible WWE run.

Kerry Von Erich is debatable too. He is of course the best of Von Erich family for sure, but his run in WWE wasn't even that great.

[kenneth_griffin]

I mean, they got bumped by Barry freakin' Windham. He, but no mean a very good big man in 80's and was very successful in Florida territory scene, is not that memorable when the 90's came; being the least important member of Four Horsemen, winning NWA Heavyweight title right before WCW abandoned it, and his terrible WWE run.

Kerry Von Erich is debatable too. He is of course the best of Von Erich family for sure, but his run in WWE wasn't even that great.

I haven't seen a top 100 list online yet that didn't include Barry windham. he's very respected among the wrestling community. Kerry von Erich is a legend. this is silly. pick someone else like Christian and you might have an argument lol

[BurningHammer]

Kerry von Erich is a legend. this is silly.

The legend thing it is more of the family during its WCCW days than just Kerry himself. He was the best among Fritz' sons so he got more highlights than other Von Erichs. His works with less of the family tie in WWF wasn't anything that legendary and his life problems (losing a foot, drugs, etc) would derailed him sooner or later anyway as well.

[Joey Turnbuckle]

Triple H at 75 :(


He should be right there with The Rock, Stone Cold, Undertaker, Mick Foley.

[kenneth_griffin]

Triple H at 75 :(


He should be right there with The Rock, Stone Cold, Undertaker, Mick Foley.


lmao

[kenneth_griffin]

https://youtu.be/cYbQrBgq1k0



https://youtu.be/I7Fz0cQkpaM

bret used to bury the fuxk out of triple h.. loved these interviews

[Iverson3]

Roman Reigns and Seth Rollins should be on the list.

[Patrick Chewing]

Roman Reigns and Seth Rollins should be on the list.

No.

[Joey Turnbuckle]

I don't remember exactly when I stopped watching wrestling but I don't know the newer guys. I watched after wwe bought everybody out and the invasion. Eventually Taz became a commentator. The only tough enough winner and wrestler I remember seeing was Maven.


So I never watched Brock Lesnar, John Cena, Batista, Randy Orton, Sheamus.... those guys as wrestlers mean nothing to me because I stopped watching right before they all came along

[Joey Turnbuckle]

https://youtu.be/cYbQrBgq1k0



https://youtu.be/I7Fz0cQkpaM

bret used to bury the fuxk out of triple h.. loved these interviews

I don't disagree he is a real sleazeball but at the time I just knew him as the wrestler and thought he was awesome. DX was cool and I loved him against the Rock in the ladder match. Triple H was supposed to win king of the ring year austin won it but triple h did the curtain call with hall, nash, shawn. With hall/nash gone and shawn being the current champ and Vince's butt boy, he punished triple h by giving king of ring to Austin. Then triple h won next year



I really hate triple when he was hunter Hurst helmsley European snob

[Joey Turnbuckle]

This theme


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SyUeRXYBYIg




https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XR3-ahF2-ok

[Joey Turnbuckle]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J-yT88X8p1w

[kenneth_griffin]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J-yT88X8p1w



let me guess. mick took every bump plus a few sledgehammer shots and triple h won

[Joey Turnbuckle]

let me guess. mick took every bump plus a few sledgehammer shots and triple h won

Barbed wire bat. You could say same about Undertakers match with mankind. Throwing him off top of cell. Throwing him on tacks. Undertaker wasn't going to be on the receiving end of any of that either

[kenneth_griffin]

Barbed wire bat. You could say same about Undertakers match with mankind. Throwing him off top of cell. Throwing him on tacks. Undertaker wasn't going to be on the receiving end of any of that either

yeah but undertaker could walk the ropes, dive over the top rope. do a front flip clothesline, reverse tombstone someone.. and besides. I never really said his matches are what made him. its more about his character. triple h was a good character but never someone people paid to see. he was more annoying than hated. I feel like him being married to steph probably gave him that push. because he buried a lot of guys that were more popular at the time

I guess I can see how some people may have liked him but it would only be guys into denom jackets with studs and patches that listen to classic rock and hit up the cottage to ****in giver and whip their hair to some tunes while shotgunning beers. they probly even found girls like Lita pre breast implants as sexy

in fact any woman with a good athletic physique and very little makeup

[bobopenguin]

triple H at #75 is a crime.
His contribution on ring and off ring is huge.

[Lebron23]

triple H at #75 is a crime.
His contribution on ring and off ring is huge.

That guy hated triple h. he is a top 15 wrestlers of all time

[Chick Stern]

leoss

[kenneth_griffin]

here's triple Hs career in a nutshell


- fancy boy with classical music gets squashed by warrior

- fancy boy becomes friends with shawn michaels, razor, xpac and nash and they use politics to push triple h into a bigger role.

- he takes "the game" gimmick that was planned for Owen that he turned down because he was against the attitude era and doing roles where he has affairs with women

- triple h dates Chyna and cheats on her with steph

- then he cheats on steph with Chyna

- he gets Chyna fired and she turns to drugs that eventually kill her.

- triple h keeps her out of the singles hall of fame picture until she was forced to go in with dx

- he uses his marriage to push himself as champion any chance he gets

- he buries every top guy in the same exact match every night with his sledgehammer shots, brawling, spine busters and pedigrees..

- never has a finish that stands out. every match has blood because he worships ric flair and thinks he has to bleed to make it a good match.

- he wins every single match with interference or weapons. mostly with both.

- he was only the top guy on raw for a year because they had brock/Cena and undertaker on smackdown

- a 45 year old hulk hogan beat him for the title because he was still a bigger draw in depends old man diapers than triple h was in his prime

- he never had a match that anyone wants to go back and watch unless he was facing someone that took every bump for him.

- he rode shawn michaels, the kliq, steph, vince and steroids to a hall of fame career

- he ruined goldberg, steiner, sting and many other big name guys that came over from wcw or tna..

- hes ran the wwe into the ground since he started doing sh*t behind the scenes.

- the company is nearly bankrupt and just laid off 100 employees and had to let Braun stroman go because they can't even afford anyone anymore

triple h has ruined the wwe in every single way. hes lucky to be on my list

[kenneth_griffin]

leoss

is grizz dead yet. let me know when I can return

[BurningHammer]

- the company is nearly bankrupt and just laid off 100 employees and had to let Braun stroman go because they can't even afford anyone anymore


Everything went well until this. :facepalm

[kenneth_griffin]

Everything went well until this. :facepalm

stocks are plummeting, they dropped in half since covid. they had one live show in America since the initial shut downs. they're setting up to be sold right now. the company is finished under vince. he filed his xfl brand for bankruptcy. he literally has to sell the company to pay bills. it's over.. aew will be the top wrestling company in a year or 2

[BurningHammer]

stocks are plummeting, they dropped in half since covid.
It has been recovering. It was way overpriced thanks to Smackdown-Fox deal anyway.


they had one live show in America since the initial shut downs.
There is nothing wrong with that. They have relied of good public relation so much they have to be very careful about having live events right. They also invested so much on Thunderdome it would be stupid to fold it too quickly. Even then, Saudi, Fox and Peacock deals keep them afloat anyway.


they're setting up to be sold right now. the company is finished under vince.
It is at the end a speculation. WWE under Nick Khan has been reconstructing the company's system and that could just be the main reason of recent shake-ups.


he filed his xfl brand for bankruptcy.
It's Vince's own money and own project. It's unrelated to WWE as a company.


he literally has to sell the company to pay bills. it's over.
Again, they are making so much money there is no reasons to sell.


aew will be the top wrestling company in a year or 2
Even I love AEW, no they won't, at least in a year or 2.