bron still has another ring in him

[red1]

congrats to all of the haters. enjoy your premature ejaculations as per usual.



this lakers team is going to win another ring. AD is going to come back and redeem himself and they're going to add another star in the next year.



losing in the first round is going to turn out to be a blessing for old and fragile players like lebron and AD. they're going to get a top-2 seed in the league and will shit on the entire NBA next year.

[3ball]

congrats to all of the haters. enjoy your premature ejaculations as per usual.



this lakers team is going to win another ring. AD is going to come back and redeem himself and they're going to add another star in the next year.



losing in the first round is going to turn out to be a blessing for old and fragile players like lebron and AD. they're going to get a top-2 seed in the league and will shit on the entire NBA next year.


It's clear that lebron needs a lot more help than Jordan needed - Lebron needs super-teams and 1b's

[elementally morale]

The Lakers organization, maybe.

LeBron... the way he used to have rings in him, not any more. But LA being LA and players wanting to go there another ring or even two is not out of the question. LeBron as the best player on the team has no more rings in him. He may win next year but is he does I doubt he will be the best player on the team.

[Airupthere]

congrats to all of the haters. enjoy your premature ejaculations as per usual.



this lakers team is going to win another ring. AD is going to come back and redeem himself and they're going to add another star in the next year.



losing in the first round is going to turn out to be a blessing for old and fragile players like lebron and AD. they're going to get a top-2 seed in the league and will shit on the entire NBA next year.

Lol, sht yeah. Typical lebron.

[Code Breaker]

With that wording I was expecting something else :milton

[3ball]

The Lakers organization, maybe.

LeBron... the way he used to have rings in him, not any more. But LA being LA and players wanting to go there another ring or even two is not out of the question. LeBron as the best player on the team has no more rings in him. He may win next year but is he does I doubt he will be the best player on the team.


In 2020...

AD was MVP of the "real" Finals vs Denver and led statistically all year

So it's debatable whether lebron was the best Laker last year because you can't be the best player if teammates are routinely out-producing you and being the main guy against the best comp

So last year's ring is debatable at best

[red1]

It's clear that lebron needs a lot more help than Jordan needed - Lebron needs super-teams and 1b's

thats fair.



its also clear that jordan never beat a 70-win team. or a dynasty-level franchise like the spurs, giving them their only loss in the finals. :)

[dbugz]

congrats to all of the haters. enjoy your premature ejaculations as per usual.



this lakers team is going to win another ring. AD is going to come back and redeem himself and they're going to add another star in the next year.



losing in the first round is going to turn out to be a blessing for old and fragile players like lebron and AD. they're going to get a top-2 seed in the league and will shit on the entire NBA next year.

worry 1st about your team because the raptors isn't making the playoffs in the next 5 years :roll: :roll:

[3ball]

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Thread Cliffs


6 rings > 5 rings

rings without super-teams or 1b's > rings with super-teams and 1b's

[red1]

The Lakers organization, maybe.

LeBron... the way he used to have rings in him, not any more. But LA being LA and players wanting to go there another ring or even two is not out of the question. LeBron as the best player on the team has no more rings in him. He may win next year but is he does I doubt he will be the best player on the team.

he has a lot left in the tank. you can tell that with a minutes restriction you'll still get another run or two.


the problem this year was purely health, it wasnt chemistry. AD was gimpy all season. Im not even willing to throw kuzma and schroder and other role-players who struggled under the bus. the lakers are a two-man team and they always were. you aren't doing shit without lebron and AD BOTH playing at an elite level at the same exact time.


you can still get that for another year or two. AD and lebron are still the best duo in the game.

[red1]

worry 1st about your team because the raptors isn't making the playoffs in the next 5 years :roll: :roll:

we're rebuilding. its going to be fun watching them rebuild because they are pretty good with their assets and pretty good in the draft.


truly a blessing being a raps fan. high IQ franchise top-to-bottom.

[elementally morale]

he has a lot left in the tank. you can tell that with a minutes restriction you'll still get another run or two.


the problem this year was purely health, it wasnt chemistry. AD was gimpy all season. Im not even willing to throw kuzma and schroder and other role-players who struggled under the bus. the lakers are a two-man team and they always were. you aren't doing shit without lebron and AD BOTH playing at an elite level at the same exact time.


you can still get that for another year or two. AD and lebron are still the best duo in the game.


Actually, most players with real talent struggle playing with LeBron. It's crazy how much worse he makes good players. Sure, he elevates mediocre to bad ones. That's what his ball dominant style does. Good players don't get enough opportunity and regress. Mediocre to end of the bench players get better on the other hand. It's because of the drive and kick.

I can see your point though. Yes, LeBron may have not one but two more seasons in him where he can produce at a top 10-15 level. (Top 5 he can't do any more. Too much talent in the NBA.) Problem is: if your best player is a top 10-15 player you are not going to win a ring. So in a sense I think we are both right. LeBron may come back better next year than he was since April. But I don't think he can win more rings as the best player on the team any more. (Even last year's title is debatable... but I think LeBron was more valuable than AD... by a hair. But it was the last such season for him I think.)

[ImKobe]

The Lakers organization, maybe.

LeBron... the way he used to have rings in him, not any more. But LA being LA and players wanting to go there another ring or even two is not out of the question. LeBron as the best player on the team has no more rings in him. He may win next year but is he does I doubt he will be the best player on the team.

This. Lakers need to retool the roster and AD has to be the man in order for the Lakers to win another ring. The days of Lebron averaging 30/10/10 and dominating the Lakers in scoring are over, at least if we want to win in the Playoffs. He's not an elite shooter and he can't consistently attack the paint anymore, there isn't going to be another 4-month vacation prior to the Playoffs.

[nineiron]

yeah, a ring of bbq sauce around his c0ck from OP suckin on it all day.

[red1]

Actually, most players with real talent struggle playing with LeBron. It's crazy how much worse he makes good players. Sure, he elevates mediocre to bad ones. That's what his ball dominant style does. Good players don't get enough opportunity and regress. Mediocre to end of the bench players get better on the other hand. It's because of the drive and kick.

I can see your point though. Yes, LeBron may have not one but two more seasons in him where he can produce at a top 10-15 level. (Top 5 he can't do any more. Too much talent in the NBA.) Problem is: if your best player is a top 10-15 player you are not going to win a ring. So in a sense I think we are both right. LeBron may come back better next year than he was since April. But I don't think he can win more rings as the best player on the team any more. (Even last year's title is debatable... but I think LeBron was more valuable than AD... by a hair. But it was the last such season for him I think.)

Yeah I agree with some of that. Overall though I think the ball-dominant narrative is a factually inaccurate hater-narrative led by skip bayless used to diminish the incredible efficiency of lebron.

In reality you dont win without multiple offensive weapons. We all know that. The reason this narrative even exists is because lebron's ability to elevate offensively challenged teams. Skip isnt making a great point when he says the cavs lost to the celtics in 2010 - in hindsight we know that the celtics werent in their prime but they had a LOT left the same way bron has a lot left right now. If they made a couple of open shots vs the lakers in staples they'd have two rings - they came as close as you can come to winning that year. Meanwhile the cavs had...


You notice something about the lakers the last two years? They made the playoffs twice despite being one of the worst shooting teams in the league. The shooting at times was just TERRIBLE.


This team has huges holes they cant hit open threes but they overachieve because of how dominant overall AD and lebron both are. They can probably shut down any team left in the playoffs for a couple of possessions just by turning up that intensity. We saw it last year vs the nuggets and rockets. That defense was elite.


All they need is a decent pointguard and to obviously just keep tweaking the roster. Schroder was supposed to fill that pointguard hole. They dont even need a lillard type player even though I think it will happen. LOL how funny would that be.


The bron diminishing teammates narrative is also a hater narrative. You have guys like tristan thompson and varejao who were undersized bigs but became elite contributors because their offensive rebounds would be used efficiently by bron-ball based teams. Guaranteed jr smith wasnt winning shit without those cavs. Those are just the easy examples.

[BallsOut]

congrats to all of the haters. enjoy your premature ejaculations as per usual.



this lakers team is going to win another ring. AD is going to come back and redeem himself and they're going to add another star in the next year.



losing in the first round is going to turn out to be a blessing for old and fragile players like lebron and AD. they're going to get a top-2 seed in the league and will shit on the entire NBA next year.

:lebronamazed:

[red1]

This. Lakers need to retool the roster and AD has to be the man in order for the Lakers to win another ring. The days of Lebron averaging 30/10/10 and dominating the Lakers in scoring are over, at least if we want to win in the Playoffs. He's not an elite shooter and he can't consistently attack the paint anymore, there isn't going to be another 4-month vacation prior to the Playoffs.

his high-scoring days are over but controlling the game and generating good shots? he can probably do that for another 4 years.

[3ball]

his high-scoring days are over but controlling the game and generating good shots? he can probably do that for another 4 years.


Lebron holding the ball (Lebron-ball) without the scoring??

Sounds like the 4/10 win rate becomes 0/100000

[red1]

Lebron holding the ball (Lebron-ball) without the scoring??

Sounds like the 4/10 win rate becomes 0/100000

you ever watch a cavs or lakers game with bron on the bench? how do they typically do when he goes to the bench? :oldlol:


how many rings did the cavs win without him all of those years they were in the league? clearly he's held them back like you say, no? surely they must have a few rings without him. :oldlol:

[elementally morale]

The bron diminishing teammates narrative is also a hater narrative. You have guys like tristan thompson and varejao who were undersized bigs but became elite contributors because their offensive rebounds would be used efficiently by bron-ball based teams. Guaranteed jr smith wasnt winning shit without those cavs. Those are just the easy examples.

I think it's a very real one.

LeBron knows only one way of playing: top heavy. Bosh, Wade, Love... very good players. All regressed... very soon and by a lot. Even Ingram. Kuzma who had a great rookie season basically forgot how to play basketball. He is practically useless on the curt and he had talent. Ingram got out... and kinda proved himself.

So I think it's a very valid point that good player suffer playing next to LeBron. Mediocre players and end of thebench players on the other hand thrive. It's because of the same thing: the whole team is so top heavy and everything is LBJ-LBJ-LBJ that when he is out...the team stops functioning. They are not used to having the ball... and there is not the same drive and kick... which leads to super +/- ratings... but it's mainly an illusion.

LeBron teams were designed top heavy. It worked. Good player got worse the team as a whole probably didn't because LBJ was great enough. When he was off the court... team ceased to exist. It's not (was not) a bad way to build a team around this idea. But it can't go on.

If LeBron wants to win he needs to take a backseat. At the very least he has to accept the 1A-1B concept but I think him and the team were both better off would he be able to accept his time as the best player is over. It happens to the best of them.



(Also: Varejao and JR Smith are the examples I myself gave you. The NOT very good player who benefitted. Yes, LeBron elevates mediocre players which both Varejao and JR Smith were.)

[red1]

I think it's a very real one.

LeBron knows only one way of playing: top heavy. Bosh, Wade, Love... very good players. All regressed... very soon and by a lot. Even Ingram. Kuzma who had a great rookie season basically forgot how to play basketball. He is practically useless on the curt and he had talent. Ingram got out... and kinda proved himself.

So I think it's a very valid point that good player suffer playing next to LeBron. Mediocre players and end of thebench players on the other hand thrive. It's because of the same thing: the whole team is so top heavy and everything is LBJ-LBJ-LBJ that when he is out...the team stops functioning. They are not used to having the ball... and there is not the same drive and kick... which leads to super +/- ratings... but it's mainly an illusion.

LeBron teams were designed top heavy. It worked. Good player got worse the team as a whole probably didn't because LBJ was great enough. When he was off the court... team ceased to exist. It's not (was not) a bad way to build a team around this idea. But it can't go on.

If LeBron wants to win he needs to take a backseat. At the very least he has to accept the 1A-1B concept but I think him and the team were both better off would he be able to accept his time as the best player is over. It happens to the best of them.



(Also: Varejao and JR Smith are the examples I myself gave you. The NOT very good player who benefitted. Yes, LeBron elevates mediocre players which both Varejao and JR Smith were.)

Im not even going to engage it because lets be real. Who has he EVER dimished? I guarantee you when you look at it you wont find evidence of a single player who did worse.

Regular season stat dropoffs for bosh and love are meaningless because they are both champions now and both were known as empty-stat padders. And rightfully so. I used to watch bosh put up those stats and NO he is not on kg or duncan's level - whose stats he both exceeded for the year that we use as proof for lebron dimishing his stats.


2009 was top-5 in the league in PER - he was NEVER a top-5 player even though bron and wade "diminished him" into 2 rings.

[ImKobe]

his high-scoring days are over but controlling the game and generating good shots? he can probably do that for another 4 years.

I'd give him another 2 years if Davis can go back to his 2020 level. If Lebron plays like he did in these Playoffs though, I'm not sure if that's even enough with what he has in LA. He doesn't have CP3's all-around shooting ability to make up for his physical decline. He can put up decent numbers in the RS for another 3-4 years sure, but what happens against a good defensive team in the Playoffs?

[elementally morale]

Im not even going to engage it because lets be real. Who has he EVER dimished? I guarantee you when you look at it you wont find evidence of a single player who did worse.

Regular season stat dropoffs for bosh and love are meaningless because they are both champions now and both were known as empty-stat padders. And rightfully so. I used to watch bosh put up those stats and NO he is not on kg or duncan's level - whose stats he both exceeded for the year that we use as proof for lebron dimishing his stats.


2009 was top-5 in the league in PER - he was NEVER a top-5 player even though bron and wade "diminished him" into 2 rings.


You are mixing two arguments.
Diminishing as a player is not the same as a diminishing career.

Yes, Bosh and Love are champions. AD is, too. (Wade is.. but he was beforehand as well.)
ALL these players diminished AS players. Better off careerwise? Probably.

Still... I think you are smart... and you are mixing these arguments on purpose. ;-)

[3ball]

Yes, if he gets completely carried as the 2nd or 3rd best player on the team (4th best?)

[red1]

I'd give him another 2 years if Davis can go back to his 2020 level. If Lebron plays like he did in these Playoffs though, I'm not sure if that's even enough with what he has in LA. He doesn't have CP3's all-around shooting ability to make up for his physical decline. He can put up decent numbers in the RS for another 3-4 years sure, but what happens against a good defensive team in the Playoffs?

size bro. size and IQ.


look at what luka just did right now.


luka isnt that athletic.


he just has size. he's massive for a ballhandler. size and IQ. that combination is unbeatable.

[BlackMamba8]

you ever watch a cavs or lakers game with bron on the bench? how do they typically do when he goes to the bench? :oldlol:


how many rings did the cavs win without him all of those years they were in the league? clearly he's held them back like you say, no? surely they must have a few rings without him. :oldlol:

Bro, usually when bron is on the bench the lakers do well and usually up the lead more.....then when the lakers are up he comes back in, and they give him all the credit for maintaining the lead, fakes, like you, bronsexual

[3ball]

size bro. size and IQ.


look at what luka just did right now.


luka isnt that athletic.


he just has size. he's massive for a ballhandler. size and IQ. that combination is unbeatable.


Lebron has no basketball IQ - that's one of the biggest myths in sports

Ever since he was 10, he employed the playground king style of ball-dominance - it's the EASIEST and most BASIC way to play, and the most beatable (requires super-teans and still mostly loses)

His brand is entirely suboptimal and DUMB, but the media is dumber and conflates his physical talent with an optimal way to play

[red1]

You are mixing two arguments.
Diminishing as a player is not the same as a diminishing career.

Yes, Bosh and Love are champions. AD is, too. (Wade is.. but he was beforehand as well.)
ALL these players diminished AS players. Better off careerwise? Probably.

Still... I think you are smart... and you are mixing these arguments on purpose. ;-)

yeah Ive just seen all of the hater arguments like we all have.


Im a kobe fan now because I appreciate his greatness - I was a hater during his career because he would shit on my team. kobe had as many haters as anyone - you'd have people complaining after the game that he was a ballhog and took too many shots - then you look at the game statline and see that everyone missed nearly all of their shots.


its the same thing with lebron and his haters. skip bayless is going to write an essay 10 years from now on how lebron is the second best player he's ever seen and the highest IQ player he's ever seen. he's just hating now because its literally his job. :)

[red1]

Lebron has no basketball IQ - that's one of the biggest myths in sports

Ever since he was 10, he employed the playground king style of ball-dominance - it's the EASIEST and most BASIC way to play, and the most beatable (requires super-teans and still mostly loses)

His brand is entirely suboptimal and DUMB, but the media is dumber and conflates his physical talent with an optimal way to play

how do you know he requires superteams? if he was playing stockton and malone in the finals I think he might be able to get a ring or two without a superteam.

[ImKobe]

size bro. size and IQ.


look at what luka just did right now.


luka isnt that athletic.


he just has size. he's massive for a ballhandler. size and IQ. that combination is unbeatable.

Luka doesn't have the miles on his body though. He can attack the basket consistently and take the punishment and recover much faster from it and he's a lot better from mid-range.

Lakers needed that Lowry trade, now I'm not sure who they'll be able to get to fill that void in the off-season, Schroder is clearly not the answer.

[red1]

Luka doesn't have the miles on his body though. He can attack the basket consistently and take the punishment and recover much faster from it and he's a lot better from mid-range.

Lakers needed that Lowry trade, now I'm not sure who they'll be able to get to fill that void in the off-season, Schroder is clearly not the answer.

luka and lebron are the exact same player.


I guarantee the lakers would've beaten the suns without AD if they had a veteran with balls like lowry. I always defend kuzma and schroder. they made it hard for me.


role-players shriveled but its not their fault. team would've lost regardless without AD in the next two rounds. this is a very top-heavy team. no AD no chance.

[elementally morale]

yeah Ive just seen all of the hater arguments like we all have.


Im a kobe fan now because I appreciate his greatness - I was a hater during his career because he would shit on my team. kobe had as many haters as anyone - you'd have people complaining after the game that he was a ballhog and took too many shots - then you look at the game statline and see that everyone missed nearly all of their shots.


its the same thing with lebron and his haters. skip bayless is going to write an essay 10 years from now on how lebron is the second best player he's ever seen and the highest IQ player he's ever seen. he's just hating now because its literally his job. :)

The last player I really hated was Jordan. And I missed out on some of the greatest basketball in the process. Hating is just not a good idea.

As for Kobe (or any other player, friend even gf or wife): the best thing you can do it try learning how to love their mistakes. Everyone has mistakes... and you have to find a way to be amused by it or you are in for a very tough ride in life. Kobe was my favorite player for many years... and he had tons of shortcomings. Both as a player and a person. They didn't irritate me and after a while I stopped 'defending' him/them. Yes, he was flawed... but entertaining and successful. I'm not a LeBron fan because his flaws still irritate me. But I can see why those mistakes don't irritate others.

[elementally morale]

luka and lebron are the exact same player.


Why would you say that? Ball dominance is similar but other than that Luke is nowhere near the physical presence and rim attacker and defender but with a lot more polished offensive skillset. I don't see much similarity to be honest. At fist glanc, due to usage, yes. But that's where it ends for me.

[red1]

Why would you say that? Ball dominance is similar but other than that Luke is nowhere near the physical presence and rim attacker and defender but with a lot more polished offensive skillset. I don't see much similarity to be honest. At fist glanc, due to usage, yes. But that's where it ends for me.
they play the exact same way. control the game create easy shots for themselves and find open teammates when the other team starts paying too much attention to the ball.



The last player I really hated was Jordan. And I missed out on some of the greatest basketball in the process. Hating is just not a good idea.

As for Kobe (or any other player, friend even gf or wife): the best thing you can do it try learning how to love their mistakes. Everyone has mistakes... and you have to find a way to be amused by it or you are in for a very tough ride in life. Kobe was my favorite player for many years... and he had tons of shortcomings. Both as a player and a person. They didn't irritate me and after a while I stopped 'defending' him/them. Yes, he was flawed... but entertaining and successful. I'm not a LeBron fan because his flaws still irritate me. But I can see why those mistakes don't irritate others.

I think hating is half the fun. watching the clippers choke a 3-1 lead was like watching my team win a championship.


bron is the modern GOAT. an athletic machine. just saying. :)

[Hey Yo]

worry 1st about your team because the raptors isn't making the playoffs in the next 5 years :roll: :roll:

Says the dude who never talks about Boston, but posts about James 100% of the time.

[elementally morale]

I think hating is half the fun. watching the clippers choke a 3-1 lead was like watching my team win a championship.


That's fun hate. My hate for MJ was hate hate. It was not fun. I really wished he would suffer a career ending injury. It was 1990-91. I was 17 at the time. Started hating MJ in 1990 and hated him till 1998. Yeah, I was dumb.

Fun hate is fun. I fun hate Porzingis. I hope he misses all his shots and I LOL when he does.. But I don't really hate him.

[red1]

That's fun hate. My hate for MJ was hate hate. It was not fun. I really wished he would suffer a career ending injury. I was 1990-91. I was 17 at the time. Started hating MJ on 1990 and hated him till 1998. Yeah, I was dumb.

Fun hate is fun. I fun hate Porzingis. I hope he misses all his shots and I LOL when he does.. But I don't really hate him.

porzingis is such trash. he did nothing for luka.


guaranteed the mavs are calling every team in the league right now asking what they can get for him

[elementally morale]

porzingis is such trash. he did nothing for luka.


guaranteed the mavs are calling every team in the league right now asking what they can get for him


Per body language he looked like a player who doesn't want to be there. I think he thinks he is better than he is. He certainly is better than he plays these days... but worse than he thinks. Anyway, I, too, think he is gone. Will benefit all parties. Mavs, Zingis, New Team. Will be a win-win trade.

[TheMan]

congrats to all of the haters. enjoy your premature ejaculations as per usual.



this lakers team is going to win another ring. AD is going to come back and redeem himself and they're going to add another star in the next year.



losing in the first round is going to turn out to be a blessing for old and fragile players like lebron and AD. they're going to get a top-2 seed in the league and will shit on the entire NBA next year.

I doubt it...if we get an 82 game season, that's asking a lot from LeBron who has a ton of mileage and now isn't indestructible anymore plus is showing his age. The Lakers can win but the days of LeBron carrying them are over. AD is injury prone, he's been that way most of his career. I wouldn't bet my mortgage on the Lakers winning next year.

[red1]

I doubt it...if we get an 82 game season, that's asking a lot from LeBron who has a ton of mileage and now isn't indestructible anymore plus is showing his age. The Lakers can win but the days of LeBron carrying them are over. AD is injury prone, he's been that way most of his career. I wouldn't bet my mortgage on the Lakers winning next year.

I think they'll win next year tbh. Watch them get lillard this summer.



Dame is smart he knows anthony marshon davis is his best chance at multiple rings. AD lebron and dame vs the nets with a healthy harden thats an even playing field.

[Xiao Yao You]

The Lakers promised Drummond a starting role to secure his commitment in free agency, (https://www.nytimes.com/by/marc-stein) according to two people familiar with the situation who were not authorized to discuss it publicly. By Game 6, Drummond was rooted to the bench, receiving zero minutes in an elimination game.

– via New York Times (https://www.nytimes.com/by/marc-stein)




size those rings!

[aj1987]

I think it's a very real one.
No, it's not and it's a very moronic one, with ZERO context.


LeBron knows only one way of playing: top heavy. Bosh, Wade, Love... very good players. All regressed... very soon and by a lot. Even Ingram. Kuzma who had a great rookie season basically forgot how to play basketball. He is practically useless on the curt and he had talent. Ingram got out... and kinda proved himself.
Yeah, lets ignore the context of Wade shredding his knee and not being himself after. Remember Wade when he was healthy? Hint: 2011.

How about Bosh being soft AF and refusing to play in the paint? He literally said that as well.

“I don’t bang with anybody anymore,” he said. “It’s a tired thing for me. It’s not my strength and I understand that. So, be smart and play within the team offense, but be aggressive at the same time.”

Bosh was soft AF and made Hibbert look like prime Shaq. That's no on "LeBron Ball". That's on Bosh. Then there's the fact that Bosh played on a dog shit team and was putting up stats, while leading them to the lottery year in and year out.

As for Ingram, dude upped his PPG, efficiency, while playing pretty much the same number of minutes as the previous season. So, lets not act like he was putting up monster numbers before LeBron and regressed with him. Ingram was also 21 in his first season with LeBron and has been putting up numbers himself on a shit team with the green light. It's his natural progression. Dude upped his scoring by 5.5 PPG while taking 4 more shots (and 4.5 more FT's) in his two seasons without LeBron. Quit acting like he's scoring 30 a game. With that being said, he's a massively overrated player with negligible impact

Once again, you're ignoring FACTS. Kuzma improved in '19 after his rookie season, while playing WITH LeBron. Dude went from 16 PPG to 19 PPG, with only a 0.03% drop in efficiency, which is literally negligible. Dude is a trash ass player and it's been proven over and over again. Even when he's on the court without LeBron, dude has been straight up garbage.


So I think it's a very valid point that good player suffer playing next to LeBron.
Except for the FACTS that AD, Wade, and Irving (when healthy) have been really good next to LeBron. Three legit good players that LeBron has played with.


Mediocre players and end of thebench players on the other hand thrive. It's because of the same thing: the whole team is so top heavy and everything is LBJ-LBJ-LBJ that when he is out...the team stops functioning. They are not used to having the ball... and there is not the same drive and kick... which leads to super +/- ratings... but it's mainly an illusion.
I get it now, you're just a troll. Yeah, let a GOAT level passer and scorer like LeBron give up the ball to Bosh or Kuzma. That makes a ton of sense. Did you also want Magic to give up the ball to Worthy and let Magic play more off-ball? That make a ridiculous amount of sense, right? Imagine letting Kuzma control the offense more while making LeBron play off-ball and running around screens or rushing to be a screener. That's what 6'9 270 pound GOAT level passers and scorers do. :cheers: :cheers:



LeBron teams were designed top heavy. It worked. Good player got worse the team as a whole probably didn't because LBJ was great enough. When he was off the court... team ceased to exist. It's not (was not) a bad way to build a team around this idea. But it can't go on.
Or maybe because the benches were shit and there were no good players who could run the offense to the way that LeBron could? Also, who are these good players who got worse? Care to point that out, WITH context?

If you look at LeBron's On-Off numbers, the teams defense usually falls off as well, when he sits. How does that work with the mythical "LeBron ball"?


If LeBron wants to win he needs to take a backseat. At the very least he has to accept the 1A-1B concept but I think him and the team were both better off would he be able to accept his time as the best player is over. It happens to the best of them.
While scoring that's how the Lakers team has functioned this season and the last one. AD and LeBron were 1a/1b when it comes to scoring. However, who does LeBron give up the play making to? Kuzma? KCP? Caruso? Matthews? THT? As I said previously, only morons and troll would want a GOAT level passer to play more off-ball.

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There is something in your tone that resulted in my ignore list grow by one name.

[Joey Turnbuckle]

Is that ring on AD's c***? Lebron has AD's c*** ring in him?

[red1]

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[Gohan]

Dbugz that’s your cue post the Mickey Mouse pic

[SATAN]

3ball is extremely immature for a 40+ year old. I wonder if he suffers from some kind of mental illness.

[aj1987]

There is something in your tone that resulted in my ignore list grow by one name.

That's what happened when you're humiliated with facts and you have ZERO response.

Also, aren't you the resident pedophile, who admitted on here to having sex with a 15 year old kid when you were 30?

[Spurs m8]

congrats to all of the haters. enjoy your premature ejaculations as per usual.



this lakers team is going to win another ring. AD is going to come back and redeem himself and they're going to add another star in the next year.



losing in the first round is going to turn out to be a blessing for old and fragile players like lebron and AD. they're going to get a top-2 seed in the league and will shit on the entire NBA next year.

This lame cvnt is still slurping bron under the guise of a Raps fan.

Cool..he can get carried to a other ring....no one cares.

Go have a tantrum somewhere else

[aj1987]

This lame cvnt is still slurping bron under the guise of a Raps fan.

Cool..he can get carried to a other ring....no one cares.

Go have a tantrum somewhere else

He's literally talking basketball, while you're still acting like a **** on her period, just because LeBron lost a series in the first round (which dad killer has done thrice). hahahaha

Go jump off a cliff, cuck m8. hahahahaha

hahahahaha

[red1]

This lame cvnt is still slurping bron under the guise of a Raps fan.

Cool..he can get carried to a other ring....no one cares.

Go have a tantrum somewhere else

derozan m8 is big mad


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These threads are so weird.

Another reason why AD should get out of LA. Dude could carry the Lakers, have the most impact, get triple teamed, and media gonna still give Lebron the Finals MVP.

Meanwhile, if he gets injured, internet nerds and media analysts turn into sports physicians and question his commitment to the game while ignoring lebron's inability to muster up a SINGLE win without AD.

Can't make this up.

[red1]

this is the WWE bitches.



you can stay triggered virgin m8. we're still coming for that azz.


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[red1]

These threads are so weird.

Another reason why AD should get out of LA. Dude could carry the Lakers, have the most impact, get triple teamed, and media gonna still give Lebron the Finals MVP.

Meanwhile, if he gets injured, internet nerds and media analysts turn into sports physicians and question his commitment to the game while ignoring lebron's inability to muster up a SINGLE win without AD.

Can't make this up.

what? you're acting like AD was actually healthy and got robbed of something.



are you retarded son?

[aj1987]

These threads are so weird.

Another reason why AD should get out of LA. Dude could carry the Lakers, have the most impact, get triple teamed, and media gonna still give Lebron the Finals MVP.

Meanwhile, if he gets injured, internet nerds and media analysts turn into sports physicians and question his commitment to the game while ignoring lebron's inability to muster up a SINGLE win without AD.

Can't make this up.

You do know that LeBron himself was injured, right? ****ing idiot.

BTW, try to look up the Lakers' record with a healthy LeBron and without AD and with a healthy AD and without LeBron.

Last seasons ring made you quit this board for almost months. Should've stayed gone. One less retard on this board. :cheers:

[warriorfan]

Damn. Bron stans are melting badly.

[Axe]

These threads are so weird.

Another reason why AD should get out of LA. Dude could carry the Lakers, have the most impact, get triple teamed, and media gonna still give Lebron the Finals MVP.

Meanwhile, if he gets injured, internet nerds and media analysts turn into sports physicians and question his commitment to the game while ignoring lebron's inability to muster up a SINGLE win without AD.

Can't make this up.
Hey, where tf you been when kong won his most recent title last year? :ohwell:

[Lebron23]

Damn. Bron stans are melting badly.

4 MVP
4 Finals MVP

Keep hating Bitch

[And1AllDay]

Actually, most players with real talent struggle playing with LeBron. It's crazy how much worse he makes good players. Sure, he elevates mediocre to bad ones. That's what his ball dominant style does. Good players don't get enough opportunity and regress. Mediocre to end of the bench players get better on the other hand. It's because of the drive and kick.

I can see your point though. Yes, LeBron may have not one but two more seasons in him where he can produce at a top 10-15 level. (Top 5 he can't do any more. Too much talent in the NBA.) Problem is: if your best player is a top 10-15 player you are not going to win a ring. So in a sense I think we are both right. LeBron may come back better next year than he was since April. But I don't think he can win more rings as the best player on the team any more. (Even last year's title is debatable... but I think LeBron was more valuable than AD... by a hair. But it was the last such season for him I think.)

bruh this forum had guys saying kevin love was great :oldlol:

guys were sayin davis looks like kareem :oldlol:

kids were making threads about dwight hwoard last szn :oldlol:

bran elevates

ps: nice shirt

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