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DABIGSALSISHA
06-09-2021, 06:26 PM
IMO,

YES

He is a much superior player than LeFraud and is already ahead of him!!!

SouBeachTalents
06-09-2021, 06:29 PM
He's already passed him

ZenMaster7210
06-09-2021, 06:31 PM
Durant took a massive piss on Lebronze in 17 and 18. He just keeps on pissing on him, now it’s basically overkill hahaha lol.

DABIGSALSISHA
06-09-2021, 06:32 PM
He's already passed him

:applause:

DABIGSALSISHA
06-09-2021, 06:35 PM
Durant took a massive piss on Lebronze in 17 and 18. He just keeps on pissing on him, now it’s basically overkill hahaha lol.

Isn't that true ? Durant's game will age a lot better too, he can rely on his jump shot!

3ball
06-09-2021, 07:13 PM
Easily

Kyrie has become a top 5 player alongside Durant's 50% lower hold-time than Lebron.

Durant's more sophisticated skillset simply yields higher team ceilings - everyone plays amazing next to KD, including Kyrie, Klay, Curry, and even a cancer like Westbrook (mini-Lebron)

AirBonner
06-09-2021, 07:20 PM
Durant is a better midrange and 3pt shooter than MJ

coin24
06-09-2021, 07:27 PM
Destroyed him twice h2h in the finals, far superior player..

LeTiny is barely top20:lol

nineiron
06-09-2021, 07:31 PM
Easily

Kyrie has become a top 5 player alongside Durant's 50% lower hold-time than Lebron.

Durant's more sophisticated skillset simply yields higher team ceilings - everyone plays amazing next to KD, including Kyrie, Klay, Curry, and even a cancer like Westbrook (mini-Lebron)

This

DABIGSALSISHA
06-11-2021, 09:32 AM
Easily

Kyrie has become a top 5 player alongside Durant's 50% lower hold-time than Lebron.

Durant's more sophisticated skillset simply yields higher team ceilings - everyone plays amazing next to KD, including Kyrie, Klay, Curry, and even a cancer like Westbrook (mini-Lebron)

TRUE Statement. :cheers:

Airupthere
06-11-2021, 10:18 AM
Peak for peak, if they had similar help, KD destroys Lebron.

RogueBorg
06-11-2021, 10:24 AM
IMO,

YES

He is a much superior player than LeFraud and is already ahead of him!!!

I have no respect for a guy who had to join a 73-win team to get his rings and then follow that up by going to Brooklyn. This crap started in 2011 and it's bad for the game. I wish teams could only afford one superstar forcing the talent to spread out to other teams. Who's going to join Lilliard in Portland? No one, it's gong to force him to go team up somewhere else. Lebron's probably recruiting him right now. That being said, Durant and Lebron are cut from the same cloth. Lebron started it because he looked at Boston and Orlando and felt he would have a hard time beating them and went to Miami. But Durant is a better player than Lebron.

kenneth_griffin
06-11-2021, 10:33 AM
Durant needs 5 since this is the same shitty era leroid got his bogus rings. so they're all equally worthless..but 5 worthless rings is more valuable than 4

especially when one of them is a bubble buddy ring

its just facts since lebron got gifted more regular season mvps so he media will bring that up too along with the 2016 overhyped bs

PP34Deuce
06-11-2021, 10:41 AM
Grown men melt downs

kenneth_griffin
06-11-2021, 10:46 AM
to everyone in this thread. we have to be consistent. we can't change our criteria and be hypocrites like leroid fans and say one guy is better cause he won more often in the finals then reverse our stance and say a modern legend with 3 rings is better than a guy with 4.. thats a leroid fan point of view.. the fact is we just have to wait and not jump the gun like these clowns. Durant has plenty of time... so does kawhi and curry. theyre all in position to pass lebron over the next 10 years. theyre not the ones fat and gassed after 5 minutes of running. be patient

theman93
06-11-2021, 10:50 AM
Absolutely not

dankok8
06-11-2021, 10:55 AM
Obviously not but he's entrenching himself in the top 15 all time. At that point it would be very hard to make an argument he isn't top 15.

TheCorporation
06-11-2021, 11:07 AM
7,631 is a tall order. Good luck KD!

Additionally, Never forget that KD was a pedestrian 4-18 against LeBron before he joined a 73 win team in 2017.

Airupthere
06-11-2021, 11:14 AM
KD's GSW rings (2) = Lebron's MIA rings (2)

If KD wins this year, coming off a serious injury, with Harden hardly playing and considering KD's ability to elevate Kyrie's game, I would say that is equivalent Lebron's 2016 ring (bailed out by Kyrie).

The bubble mickey ring does not count. Exhibition rings should not count anywhere in the world.

That would tie KD and Lebron then. KD ties Lebron with much less PO games and accumulated stats needed.

Shaquille O'Neal
06-11-2021, 11:37 AM
Yes. KD has been better than Lebron from 2015-2019 and 2021 (only due to KD's injury.

kawhileonard2
06-11-2021, 12:30 PM
He's already passed him

We saw this in 2017 and 2018 finals.

TheCorporation
06-11-2021, 12:48 PM
Well, well, well. He's gaining on MJ.

https://i.postimg.cc/v8WhXdBL/lefedor-7631.png

Thenameless
06-12-2021, 03:30 PM
If the Durant greater than Lebron thing was real, then he would be the one that everybody compares to Michael Jordan.

ImKobe
06-12-2021, 04:17 PM
If the Durant greater than Lebron thing was real, then he would be the one that everybody compares to Michael Jordan.

They will in a couple years if Durant keeps his production up & the Nets make multiple Finals and win at least 1 title. KD is one of a kind like Mike was. We've never seen a 7-footer as versatile as Durant on the offensive end. KG was another 7-footer with guard skills, but KG couldn't shoot the 3, nor was his handle as good as Durant's.

red1
06-12-2021, 04:22 PM
sure if thats what you want to believe

Spurs m8
06-12-2021, 04:38 PM
If the Durant greater than Lebron thing was real, then he would be the one that everybody compares to Michael Jordan.

Well no...because Bron isnt even a fair comparison to Mike...that not even a real argument to someone with a brain.

On top of that, a Bron KD argument is actually the kind of argument Bron should be in

Shooter
06-12-2021, 04:39 PM
Well, well, well. He's gaining on MJ.

https://i.postimg.cc/v8WhXdBL/lefedor-7631.png

Good luck, Kevin :lol

Shooter
06-12-2021, 04:40 PM
If the Durant greater than Lebron thing was real, then he would be the one that everybody compares to Michael Jordan.

MJ should be the one compared to KD. #2 is up for grabs.

GOAT #1 is locked up by LeBron, obviously.

kawhileonard2
06-12-2021, 11:32 PM
KD already surpassed Lebron for 10th all time. We saw this here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YVsah5EBKuI

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VpuhTIGVY0c

Shooter
06-12-2021, 11:38 PM
KD already surpassed Lebron for 10th all time. We saw this here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YVsah5EBKuI

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VpuhTIGVY0c

KD's actually 9th

https://i.postimg.cc/v8WhXdBL/lefedor-7631.png

sportjames23
06-12-2021, 11:53 PM
Durant is a better midrange and 3pt shooter than MJ

LOL in a thread that doesn’t have anything to do with nor mentions MJ, a Bron stan always gotta drag Jordan into it when Bron is getting slapped around. :oldlol:

Shooter
06-12-2021, 11:54 PM
LOL in a thread that doesn’t have anything to do with nor mentions MJ, a Bron stan always gotta drag Jordan into it when Bron is getting slapped around. :oldlol:

https://i.postimg.cc/wTqLqW76/Sport-James-Owned.png

This boi has a voice all of a sudden? :lol QUIET peasant

Spurs m8
06-13-2021, 12:03 AM
KD's actually 9th

https://i.postimg.cc/v8WhXdBL/lefedor-7631.png

Does this guy REALLY rank players by their total points scored?hhahahhhahahhaha

I've seen it all now

Hahahhahahhahahhahaha

Shooter
06-13-2021, 12:04 AM
Does this guy REALLY rank players by their total points scored?hhahahhhahahhaha

I've seen it all now

Hahahhahahhahahhahaha

Meltdown

KD is 9th

Good luck, Kevin :pimp:

Axe
06-13-2021, 12:11 AM
KD's actually 9th

https://i.postimg.cc/v8WhXdBL/lefedor-7631.png
Curry not even making it to the top 10, despite his team making it to five straight finals. Which is second most in league history. :ohwell:

Shooter
06-13-2021, 12:17 AM
Curry not even making it to the top 10, despite his team making it to five straight finals. Which is second most in league history. :ohwell:

He likes to disappear often in the big moments :(

He's good for 28th at the moment. He could have gained more legacy but he um. Well. He missed the playoffs in his prime :(

DABIGSALSISHA
06-13-2021, 02:27 AM
DURANT VS LEBRON WHEN THEY FACED EACH OTHER in the finals:

https://i.ytimg.com/vi/vNAY4CwjGmE/maxresdefault.jpg

DABIGSALSISHA
06-13-2021, 02:28 AM
LOL in a thread that doesn’t have anything to do with nor mentions MJ, a Bron stan always gotta drag Jordan into it when Bron is getting slapped around. :oldlol:

:lol:lol:lol

000
06-13-2021, 02:30 AM
hes already passed him

would he be top 10 of alltime though? 1 kia mvp, 4 scoring titles, 3 fvmp. Pretty decent

000
06-13-2021, 02:32 AM
He likes to disappear often in the big moments :(

He's good for 28th at the moment. He could have gained more legacy but he um. Well. He missed the playoffs in his prime :(
sheesh, durant beat the brakes off lebron, ~30 ppg kyrie and kevin love with that guy???

DABIGSALSISHA
06-13-2021, 02:34 AM
hes already passed him

would he be top 10 of alltime though? 1 kia mvp, 4 scoring titles, 3 fvmp. Pretty decent

Well, at this point, we ALL know that he already passed LeGOOF, but Let me ask you, how far ahead is he now and if he wins it all this year?

000
06-13-2021, 02:38 AM
Well, at this point, we ALL know that he already passed LeGOOF, but Let me ask you, how far ahead is he now and if he wins it all this year?

not sure exactly, but a lot if he wins

DABIGSALSISHA
06-13-2021, 02:44 AM
not sure exactly, but a lot if he wins

And he is only 32. If this Brooklyn team is for real then he will put LeJunk in his rear view mirror by a MILE in ALL STATS and everything else we could imagine in the next 4 year span. :basketball

It WON'T look good for LeESPN when it's all set and done. :lebronamazed::banghead::lebroncry: Guy couldn't shoot to save Gloria from Delonte, never mind Durant.

Lebron is already retired, that LOSER.

000
06-13-2021, 02:46 AM
And he is only 32. If this Brooklyn team is for real then he will put LeJunk in his rear view mirror by a MILE in ALL STATS and everything else we could imagine in the next 4 year span. :basketball

It WON'T look good for LeESPN when it's all set and done. :lebronamazed::banghead::lebroncry:
yeah - 7 ft shooter, who easily recovered from an achilles? wow

hes gonna have great longevity. definitely wont miss the playoffs right after a finals run, thats for sure

Spurs m8
06-13-2021, 03:12 AM
yeah - 7 ft shooter, who easily recovered from an achilles? wow

hes gonna have great longevity. definitely wont miss the playoffs right after a finals run, thats for sure

Exactly

Durant can actually shoot and doesn't rely on stiff arm bully ball.

That's why LeLeader fell right off the cliff this playoffs...the dude has nothing...without AD, that is

000
06-13-2021, 03:15 AM
Exactly

Durant can actually shoot and doesn't rely on stiff arm bully ball.

That's why LeLeader fell right off the cliff this playoffs...the dude has nothing...without AD, that is
hey now, hes really good at making lightly contested threes down 30 in the 3rd quarter

DABIGSALSISHA
06-13-2021, 03:16 AM
Exactly

Durant can actually shoot and doesn't rely on stiff arm bully ball.

That's why LeLeader fell right off the cliff this playoffs...the dude has nothing...without AD, that is

LeDOWNHILL is DONE !!!:lebroncry::durantunimpressed:

Spurs m8
06-13-2021, 03:35 AM
hey now, hes really good at making lightly contested threes down 30 in the 3rd quarter

:roll::roll:

StrongLurk
06-13-2021, 12:01 PM
This thread is hilarious and so pathetic :roll:

Iverson3
06-13-2021, 06:47 PM
OP jinxed Kevin Durant. Now that Irving suffered an injury let's see if KD is capable of carrying the Nets. He better pray Harden play in Game 5 cause Durant ain't capable of carrying a weaker team in the playoffs.

dreamshake
06-13-2021, 07:15 PM
Durant already passed LeBron.

Shooter
06-13-2021, 07:17 PM
Well, well, well. He's gaining on MJ.

https://i.postimg.cc/v8WhXdBL/lefedor-7631.png

KD could pass West this postseason and gain the #8 spot. I don't see him climbing much higher than that though. Not this post season anyway.

Keep building Kevin. Good luck, Kevin.

ImKobe
06-13-2021, 07:17 PM
OP jinxed Kevin Durant. Now that Irving suffered an injury let's see if KD is capable of carrying the Nets. He better pray Harden play in Game 5 cause Durant ain't capable of carrying a weaker team in the playoffs.

And when did Lebron beat a team as good as the '21 Bucks without a co-star? This ain't the Oladipo Pacers or the rookie Tatum Celtics. :kobe: No shame in losing to that team when the Nets are down Kyrie, Harden & Dinwiddie.

Shooter
06-13-2021, 07:18 PM
And when did Lebron beat a team as good as the '21 Bucks without a co-star? This ain't the Oladipo Pacers or the rookie Tatum Celtics. :kobe: No shame in losing to that team when the Nets are down Kyrie, Harden & Dinwiddie.

I love that you tried to shame the Tatum Celtics and prop up the Giannis/Middleton Bucks :lol

Um.

The 2018 Tatum Celtics BEAT the 2018 Giannis Bucks

Get fu**ed :lol :lol :lol

I'll always own your body. Never forget that

aj1987
06-13-2021, 07:21 PM
And when did Lebron beat a team as good as the '21 Bucks without a co-star? This ain't the Oladipo Pacers or the rookie Tatum Celtics. :kobe: No shame in losing to that team when the Nets are down Kyrie, Harden & Dinwiddie.

Isn't your criteria always 50 win teams? LeBron beat a 60 win team with 4 All-Stars with pretty much ZERO help. Even without Irving and Harden, the Nets are still a decent team. Your retarded ass was melting all over the place when LeBron lost to the much better Suns team. An injured LeBron without AD in his 18th season at 36 years old.

ImKobe
06-13-2021, 07:21 PM
I love that you tried to shame the Tatum Celtics and prop up the Giannis/Middleton Bucks :lol

Um.

The 2018 Tatum Celtics BEAT the 2018 Giannis Bucks

Get fu**ed :lol :lol :lol

The 2018 Giannis Bucks were a .500 team, a 7th seed with Jason Kidd as the HC and they were a few bad calls away from beating the Celtics in 6 :facepalm .

Shooter
06-13-2021, 07:24 PM
The 2018 Giannis Bucks were a .500 team, a 7th seed with Jason Kidd as the HC and they were a few bad calls away from beating the Celtics in 6 :facepalm .

Oh you know you got fu**ed big time on that comparison. Don't try to cover it now, looks worse. Admit you were wrong and owned. Pull those panties down my boy I'm ready for that ass :lebronamazed:

ImKobe
06-13-2021, 07:25 PM
Isn't your criterial always 50 win teams? LeBron beat a 60 win team with 4 All-Stars with pretty much ZERO help. Even without Irving and Harden, the Nets are still a decent team. Your retarded ass was melting all over the place when LeBron lost to the much better Suns team. An injured LeBron without AD in his 18th season at 36 years old.

Irving played almost half the series and it's not like the Hawks were healthy, their 4th "all-star" aka 12 ppg Korver was injured too. The Hawks did not have a legitimate all-star on their roster. Lebron got plenty of help with JR averaging 18/8 on 66%TS and the Cavs shot 40% from 3 as a team, despite Lebron's 5/20 3PT shooting. Lebron had a 50.6%TS in that series and it was a sweep. :kobe: Congrats on sweeping a Jeff Teague-led team, what an achievement :facepalm .

Shooter
06-13-2021, 07:26 PM
Irving played almost half the series and it's not like the Hawks were healthy, their 4th "all-star" aka 12 ppg Korver was injured too. The Hawks did not have a legitimate all-star on their roster. Lebron got plenty of help with JR averaging 18/8 on 66%TS and the Cavs shot 40% from 3 as a team, despite Lebron's 5/20 3PT shooting. Lebron had a 50.6%TS in that series and it was a sweep. :kobe: Congrats on sweeping a Jeff Teague-led team, what an achievement :facepalm .

Damn so now it's not all about "dEm 50 wiNz teAms dOe" anymore? :lol Pick a lane fakkit

Panties down, now.

Iverson3
06-13-2021, 07:33 PM
Imkobe getting roasted in this thread. Change your avatar. You ****ing B1tch.

dreamshake
06-13-2021, 07:34 PM
Imkobe getting roasted in this thread. Change your avatar. You ****ing B1tch.

Go back on your main, Lebron23

Iverson3
06-13-2021, 07:37 PM
Go back on your main, Lebron23

Aren't you RG??

Shooter
06-13-2021, 07:39 PM
Aren't you RG??

What acronym does RG stand for?

ImKobe
06-13-2021, 07:40 PM
Damn so now it's not all about "dEm 50 wiNz teAms dOe" anymore? :lol Pick a lane fakkit

Panties down, now.

Beating legitimate 50+ win teams with All-NBA talent is not comparable to beating a team of rookies (2018 Celtics) or a team of fake "all-stars" (2015 Hawks). All the talent was out West or on the Cavs, so a 12 ppg one-way player in Korver (a ****ing spot-up 3PT shooter) could make the All-Star game in the pathetic Eastern Conference.

All-NBA, EC

2015: James (1st), Gasol (2nd) & Irving (3rd). So Cavs had 2 of the 3 All-NBA players of the entire Conference :kobe: , and to make things worse, Gasol was injured in the 2nd round series against the Cavs, and the Cavs needed a game-winner from Lebron to avoid going down 1 - 3, and that was with Gasol out.

Iverson3
06-13-2021, 07:42 PM
What acronym does RG stand for?

Rocketsgreatness

Shooter
06-13-2021, 07:44 PM
Beating legitimate 50+ win teams with All-NBA talent is not comparable to beating a team of rookies (2018 Celtics) or a team of fake "all-stars" (2015 Hawks). All the talent was out West or on the Cavs, so a 12 ppg one-way player in Korver (a ****ing spot-up 3PT shooter) could make the All-Star game in the pathetic Eastern Conference.

All-NBA, EC

2015: James (1st), Gasol (2nd) & Irving (3rd). So Cavs had 2 of the 3 All-NBA players of the entire Conference :kobe: , and to make things worse, Gasol was injured in the 2nd round series against the Cavs, and the Cavs needed a game-winner from Lebron to avoid going down 1 - 3, and that was with Gasol out.

You said the Bucks were such a touch team for KD to beat, not as weak as the 2018 Tatum Celtics...

But the problem is the T2018 atum Celtics beat the Bucks in 2018. So your argument failed. Your premise failed. You. Failed. Now pull those panties to the side boi

https://media.giphy.com/media/xtuJ917QyMHZ2UyMfJ/giphy.gif

ImKobe
06-13-2021, 07:48 PM
You said the Bucks were such a touch team for KD to beat, not as weak as the 2018 Tatum Celtics...

But the problem is the T2018 atum Celtics beat the Bucks in 2018. So your argument failed. Your premise failed. You. Failed. Now pull those panties to the side boi

https://media.giphy.com/media/xtuJ917QyMHZ2UyMfJ/giphy.gif

Except the 2018 Bucks didn't have their current coach, nor did they have Brook Lopez, PJ Tucker, Jrue Holiday and the same bench pieces, and Giannis is a much better player than he was 3 years ago.

ELITEpower23
06-13-2021, 07:50 PM
Except the 2018 Bucks didn't have their current coach, nor did they have Brook Lopez, PJ Tucker, Jrue Holiday and the same bench pieces, and Giannis is a much better player than he was 3 years ago.

So now you're arguing that 19 year old Tatum and 21 year old Jaylen Brown were supposed to be better than 23 year old Giannis, 26 year old Middleton, and 28 year old Bledsoe, and 25 year old Brogdon? Now your argument is actually getting weaker. Take the L, be a man.

ImKobe
06-13-2021, 07:56 PM
So now you're arguing that 19 year old Tatum and 21 year old Jaylen Brown were supposed to be better than 23 year old Giannis, 26 year old Middleton, and 28 year old Bledsoe, and 25 year old Brogdon? Now your argument is actually getting weaker. Take the L, be a man.

Yes, because the Bucks didn't have anyone outside of those 4 players and weren't a good defensive team in 2018, while the Celtics were a #1 seed & a Conference Finals team the year before.

Shooter
06-13-2021, 07:57 PM
Yes, because the Bucks didn't have anyone outside of those 4 players and weren't a good defensive team in 2018, while the Celtics were a #1 seed & a Conference Finals team the year before.

So now you're back to #1 seed and 50 winz teamz doe. Idiot move :lol Just admit defeat and take the L. You made a terrible comparison and you must be punished for it

ImKobe
06-13-2021, 08:00 PM
So now you're back to #1 seed and 50 winz teamz doe. Idiot move :lol Just admit defeat and take the L. You made a terrible comparison and you must be punished for it

You're a ****ing idiot for comparing the 2018 Bucks to the current team. Maybe brush up on your bball knowledge and come back when you have something of substance to respond with. You're not funny, nor have you ever added anything to a serious bball discussion.

aj1987
06-13-2021, 08:30 PM
Irving played almost half the series and it's not like the Hawks were healthy, their 4th "all-star" aka 12 ppg Korver was injured too. The Hawks did not have a legitimate all-star on their roster. Lebron got plenty of help with JR averaging 18/8 on 66%TS and the Cavs shot 40% from 3 as a team, despite Lebron's 5/20 3PT shooting. Lebron had a 50.6%TS in that series and it was a sweep. :kobe: Congrats on sweeping a Jeff Teague-led team, what an achievement :facepalm .

****ing retard. The Hawks' FOURTH All-Star was injured, but you want to downplay LeBron missing his #2 and #3? This just PROVES the expectations that people have on LeBron. You mouth breathing retards legit expected a gimpy 18th season LeBron to beat a Suns team without his #2.

Irving played like 40 minutes TOTAL that series.

JR averaged 18 PPG? Damn!. LeBron beat a 60 win team with 4 All-Stars with an 18 PPG sidekick.

While you're at it, why don't you post Delly, Shump, and Jones' stats?

ImKobe
06-13-2021, 09:04 PM
****ing retard. The Hawks' FOURTH All-Star was injured, but you want to downplay LeBron missing his #2 and #3? This just PROVES the expectations that people have on LeBron. You mouth breathing retards legit expected a gimpy 18th season LeBron to beat a Suns team without his #2.

Irving played like 40 minutes TOTAL that series.

JR averaged 18 PPG? Damn!. LeBron beat a 60 win team with 4 All-Stars with an 18 PPG sidekick.

While you're at it, why don't you post Delly, Shump, and Jones' stats?

JR averaged more than the 2nd best scorer on the Hawks and he did it at an unreal efficiency. Jeff Teague was the Hawks #1 option :kobe: and their 2nd scorer averaged 13.8 ppg on 49%TS. The Hawks had 0 All-NBA players. So Lebron was the only All-NBA player (other than Kyrie) in that series, and his 2nd option gave him 18 ppg on 66%TS against a team of 4 "all-stars" . Milsap and Horford were the only legitimate All-Stars on that team, Teague & Korver never made another one. Korver shouldn't have been one to begin with as a 12 ppg spot-up shooter.

aj1987
06-13-2021, 10:12 PM
JR averaged more than the 2nd best scorer on the Hawks and he did it at an unreal efficiency. Jeff Teague was the Hawks #1 option :kobe: and their 2nd scorer averaged 13.8 ppg on 49%TS. The Hawks had 0 All-NBA players. So Lebron was the only All-NBA player (other than Kyrie) in that series, and his 2nd option gave him 18 ppg on 66%TS against a team of 4 "all-stars" . Milsap and Horford were the only legitimate All-Stars on that team, Teague & Korver never made another one. Korver shouldn't have been one to begin with as a 12 ppg spot-up shooter.

Someone posted this earlier, but I "stole" it. Lets look at LeBron's impact:

LeBron was purposefully slowing down the pace. You don't win against the Warriors (with a garbage ass team no less) playing run and gun ball. They're gonna out shoot you and destroy you. The Cavs would've lost in 4 straight blowouts if they played uptempo basketball.

He couldn't hand over the playmaking duties to others nor was he able to let others make decisions, because they're low IQ players. Shump and JR were terrible and can't create for others. Delly had a hard time bringing the ball up court. Actually, Shump is a below average playmaker, but the other two are worse than garbage.

The game in which Mozgov put up 28 points, the Cavs lost by 21 points. LeBron struggled shooting the ball, but he did have 20/12/8. 12 rebounds and 8 assists (oh wait, rebounds and assists only matter when it's Bird). Delly went 3-14, JR 2-12, Shump 2-9, JJ 0-3, etc.. A combined 18% FG%. Literally no one could hit a shot. To top it off, the Warriors went small and Moz couldn't guard anyone on the court. Bogut was benched and Green was playing at the C.

You're blaming LeBron for Moz not getting more involved in game 5 after the 28 point game, when in fact, the COACH played him 9 minutes. He played over 30 minutes in game 6 and LeBron got him involved. Dude put up 17/12/4.

For the series, the 3 guys who played the 3rd, 4th, and 5th highest minutes managed to score a combined 25.5 points on sub 40% TS. 29% FG% and 28% 3pt%.

LeBron James finished the 2015 NBA Finals with averages of 35.8 points, 13.3 rebounds, and 8.8 assists per game.

LeBron James is the first player in NBA Finals history to lead both teams in points, assists and rebounds for the entire series.

Without James on the floor, Cleveland’s field goal percentage dropped for 40% to 17%, and it’s offensive efficiency fell from 97.3 to 50.9.

According to Tom Haberstroh of ESPN, James accounted for 38.3% of Cleveland's points in the Finals, the second-highest percentage of team points in Finals history. He is edged only by Michael Jordan scoring 38.4% of the Bulls' points in the 1993 Finals, which Chicago won.

He was responsible for an average of 57.7 points per game on points he either scored or assisted on; which in turn, accounted for 62% of the Cavaliers’s points in the NBA Finals.

According to ESPN Stats & Information, by pulling the Elo Ratings for each team to make the NBA Finals before the series began, and taking into account a team’s home-court advantage, it was able to project each team’s chances of winning prior to the Finals. What was discovered was that James’ teams had the lowest expected winning percentage — 37% — out of any of the other players on this list. If you consider that James still managed to win two titles with those odds stacked against him, the four losses don’t seem so terrible. And if we look at the 2015 Finals by itself, we’ll realize that James did was pretty much unprecedented.

“If we look at a multi-year Statistical Plus/Minus talent projection for every NBA Finals team, this Cavs team ranks as the ninth-least talented NBA finalist since 1985. (By contrast, Cleveland’s opponents, the mighty Golden State Warriors, rank as the 14th-most talented.) Remove James, and things get even more dire; his supporting cast ranks as the third-worst team carried by its best player to the NBA Finals since 1985.”

If you were to take James’s talent rating (6.6) and replace it with that of the league-average player (0.0), the Cavaliers’s talent rating would dwindle to -0.1. So what the King ended up doing was carrying one of the three-worst supporting casts in NBA history to within two games of a championship. Of course, what we forgot to mention was that FiveThirtyEight also determined that these Golden State Warriors finished the year with the second-highest peak Elo Rating (1822) in NBA history and third-highest Composite Elo Rating of all time (1796), making them one of the best basketball teams ever. And what James did against them remarkable.

When LeBron was NOT on the floor, JR Smith, Matthew Dellavedova, James Jones and Iman Shumpert DID NOT MAKE A SHOT in the NBA Finals

Without LeBron James on the floor this series.
JR Smith 0/9 FG
Delly 0/7 FG
J. Jones 0/3 FG
Shumpert 0/2 FG
Total 0/21 FG