Who played with less combined All-NBA/All-Defensive players than LeBron?

[Pip' N Rodman]

LeBron only played with 5 combined All-NBA/All-Defensive players his first 16 years in the league, who played with less than that?

List:

2010 Varejao

2011 Wade

2012 Wade

2013 Wade

2015 Irving

[SouBeachTalents]

I'd wager the likes of McGrady, Wilkins, Gervin, KG in Minny

[Pip' N Rodman]

I'd wager the likes of McGrady, Wilkins, Gervin, KG in Minny

So basically only players who won 0 championships (Garnett won 0 in Minny)


Meanwhile LeBron won 4 rings and made 10 Finals with similar help

[SouBeachTalents]

So basically only players who won 0 championships (Garnett won 0 in Minny)


Meanwhile LeBron won 4 rings and made 10 Finals with similar help
I'd bet Hakeem & Dirk have less, and Duncan won 4 titles without another All-NBA player

[Pip' N Rodman]

I'd bet Hakeem & Dirk have less, and Duncan won 4 titles without another All-NBA player

Duncan played with 11 All-NBA teammates and 11 All-Defensive teammates in his career though, thats 22 combined All-NBA teammates compared to 5 for LeBron

So more than 4x the amount of help :roll: :roll:

[Pip' N Rodman]

Dirk played with 3 combined All-NBA/All-Defensive teammates, so close to the 5 that LeBron played with.


And Dirk has only 1 ring to LeBrons 4

[Pip' N Rodman]

There's literally no counter argument to the lack of All-NBA/All-Defensive help LeBron had. No one ever won more with less. :eek:

Its basically the GOAT argument for LeBron, he won just 2 less rings than MJ but had 1/3rd the amount of help, aka did more with less

[Shooter]

Dirk played with 3 combined All-NBA/All-Defensive teammates, so close to the 5 that LeBron played with.


And Dirk has only 1 ring to LeBrons 4

Dirk's success rate is 1 FMVP for 3 All NBA/Defensive: 1/3 = 33%
LeBron's success rate is 4 FMVPs for 5 all/NBA Defensive: 4/5 = 80%
MJ's success rate is 6 FMVPs for 15 all/NBA Defensive: 6/15 = 40

I see. It all makes sense.

So who maximized their talent again? :lol

WE WIN AGAIN

:hammertime:

[Shooter]

There's literally no counter argument to the lack of All-NBA/All-Defensive help LeBron had. No one ever won more with less. :eek:

Its basically the GOAT argument for LeBron, he won just 2 less rings than MJ but had 1/3rd the amount of help, aka did more with less

80% (4/5) > 40% (6/15)

[Pip' N Rodman]

80% (4/5) > 40% (6/15)

3ball rn

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[kawhileonard2]

Lebron played with Shaq who had won 3 finals mvp's and a league mvp. He played with Wade who won a finals mvp.
He also had Tim Duncan, Allen Iverson on the Olympics and won bronze medal.

I'd say Jordan he played with no one who ever won league or finals mvp for a season.

[Shooter]

Dirk's success rate is 1 FMVP for 3 All NBA/Defensive: 1/3 = 33%
LeBron's success rate is 4 FMVPs for 5 all/NBA Defensive: 4/5 = 80%
MJ's success rate is 6 FMVPs for 15 all/NBA Defensive: 6/15 = 40

I see. It all makes sense.

So who maximized their talent again? :lol

WE WIN AGAIN

:hammertime:

So to sum it up.

LeBron has turned 80% of this All NBA/All Defensive selections into Finals MVPs/winners
4 for 5 = 80%

MJ has turned 40% of his All NBA/All Defensive selections into Finals MVPs/winners
6 for 15 = 40%

LBJ elevates his teams by 100% more than MJ (80% vs 40%)

[jalbert009]

Lebron played with Shaq who had won 3 finals mvp's and a league mvp. He played with Wade who won a finals mvp.
He also had Tim Duncan, Allen Iverson on the Olympics and won bronze medal.

I'd say Jordan he played with no one who ever won league or finals mvp for a season.



Lebron also had x4 DPOY Ben Wallace and won a ring with x3 DPOY Dwight Howard

[Smoke117]

Lebron also had x4 DPOY Ben Wallace and won a ring with x3 DPOY Dwight Howard

Why do you dumb asses always bring up guys that were washed up. Who cares what they did in the past.

[kawhileonard2]

Lebron played with Shaq who had won 3 finals mvp's and a league mvp. He played with Wade who won a finals mvp.
He also had Tim Duncan, Allen Iverson on the Olympics and won bronze medal.

I'd say Jordan he played with no one who ever won league or finals mvp for a season.

So to sum it up he had Shaq, Tim Duncan, Allen Iverson on his squads along with Wade, Dwight Howard, Ben Wallace, Ray Allen, Chris Bosh, Kyrie Irving, Anthony Davis, Kevin Love, Carlos Boozer.

Damn. Tmac with that would have won like 8 titles.

[Airupthere]

So to sum it up he had Shaq, Tim Duncan, Allen Iverson on his squads along with Wade, Dwight Howard, Ben Wallace, Ray Allen, Chris Bosh, Kyrie Irving, Anthony Davis, Kevin Love, Carlos Boozer.

Damn. Tmac with that would have won like 8 titles.

When they said lebron makes teammates worse, I didnt expect it to mean he could turn a career winner like duncan into a bronze medalist. Lol

[Pip' N Rodman]

Who did?

[Shooter]

So to sum it up.

LeBron has turned 80% of this All NBA/All Defensive selections into Finals MVPs/winners
4 for 5 = 80%

MJ has turned 40% of his All NBA/All Defensive selections into Finals MVPs/winners
6 for 15 = 40%

LBJ elevates his teams by 100% more than MJ (80% vs 40%)

3ball?

[Pip' N Rodman]

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[And1AllDay]

So to sum it up.

LeBron has turned 80% of this All NBA/All Defensive selections into Finals MVPs/winners
4 for 5 = 80%

MJ has turned 40% of his All NBA/All Defensive selections into Finals MVPs/winners
6 for 15 = 40%

LBJ elevates his teams by 100% more than MJ (80% vs 40%)

3baLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL?

[Pip' N Rodman]

Who did?

[Pip' N Rodman]

Anyone know?