whos legacy goes down this yr after making it to finals and losing?

[And1AllDay]

will it be chris paul?
jokic?
kd?
giannis?

should they went the 1-9 route and lose more and sooner in 1st rd to protect legacy?

which legacy takes a hit for winning more games and not losing sooner?

[ImKobe]

Lebron. Lost to a bunch of Playoff virgins and a washed up/injured CP3 in the first round. :kobe:

[And1AllDay]

Lebron. Lost to a bunch of Playoff virgins and a washed up/injured CP3 in the first round. :kobe:
which legacy takes a hit for winning more games and not losing sooner?

[ImKobe]

which legacy takes a hit for winning more games and not losing sooner?

Only those who are held up to a GOAT standard. If you're trying to argue Lebron's case, you have to take some points off for his losing Finals record. How can he be MJ or Kareem or Duncan or Kobe, when he's come up short 6x on the big stage? And no, he doesn't have to be 100% in the Finals, that's only something MJ was capable of. The 2011 Finals loss is too much to overcome IMO.

[Airupthere]

Lebron lost the most this season. Lost the ample respect that people had for him. Showed clearly how big ADs contribution to last year and this year’s success was to the Lakers. Showed that a hobbling AD playing kept the series alive at 2-2. Showed that Lebron gives up on teammates. Showed that he does not creat a winning culture. He needs readymade stars to win and he needs to be physically dominany to win. He showed lack of skills and versatility with his offense, limited to barreling his way through opponents. He showed lack of sportsmanship. All because of this year’s early exit.

I honestly had him at top2-3 before. I said this year should not have affected that, but it did. No way he is ahead of bird and magic with that mentality.

[DoctorP]

Butthurt Branstains strike again

[MadDog]

Would be their first finals. Save for Giannis, they'd all be underdogs too. None of them would be rebuked for it. This isn't a LeBron situation where you stack the deck and lose as the favorite.

[Akeem34TheDream]

Healthy AD's stocks went wayy up this playoffs.

[And1AllDay]

Only those who are held up to a GOAT standard. If you're trying to argue Lebron's case, you have to take some points off for his losing Finals record. How can he be MJ or Kareem or Duncan or Kobe, when he's come up short 6x on the big stage? And no, he doesn't have to be 100% in the Finals, that's only something MJ was capable of. The 2011 Finals loss is too much to overcome IMO.

so bran shouldnt win more games he should have lost sooner like 1-9 mike? should kd do the same?

[ImKobe]

so bran shouldnt win more games he should have lost sooner like 1-9 mike? should kd do the same?

Like I said, he didn't need to be 100% but he lost way too many times with HCA or as the clear favorite. MJ never lost with HCA.

[Dbrog]

KD is the only one on that list who's expected to win anything. Jokic doesn't have a legacy of anything except a great passing big. It's not like he's won anything other than individual accolades. Same with Giannis about the individual accolades. CP has a lot to gain but not much to lose. Most people here or elsewhere thought the Suns might be eliminated 1st round but then that's been CPs legacy right? Taking teams that aren't projected to do amazing and elevating them to overperforming. It would be amazing to win a Championship that way but CP hasn't shown he can do that either.

Again, KD's Nets are LARGELY favored over any of the teams remaining. If he doesn't win it would be quite the black mark

[bullettooth]

Bronsexuals are STILL melting down?

[kenneth_griffin]

the guy that has a shot at chasing MJ for goat


so kawhi, Durant and especially Giannis.... outside chance booker, mitchell

for guys like cp3, George and harden it would be a bonus for them to just make the finals since they no longer have any shot at legendary status due to all the choking.



I've tried explaining this to lebron fans but they just keep ignoring me. the new bar/standard for being GOAT is having zero blemishes in the finals


if you're chasing goat status then losing in the finals is bad

if you're just trying to be like everyone else then it's OK


Lebron fans should have just compared their guy to a more suitable legend like magic or bird.. but nooooo.. they had to pick MJ


kobes finals Ls got shat on for a long time too. hes not the only one

[And1AllDay]

so if you lose the 1st rd its better

:oldlol:

bb bois shook

[ImKobe]

so if you lose the 1st rd its better

:oldlol:

bb bois shook

No, but if your team is the favorite to win it all and you lose with HCA, you're not on MJ's level.

The issue is that some of my Lebron fam members act as if Finals losses are as impressive as Finals wins with Lebron putting up 30/10/10 while losing by a historic margin.

[MadDog]

so if you lose the 1st rd its better

:oldlol:

bb bois shook

Whose saying that though? Finals credit is nowhere close to winning it. Why do LeBron fans pretend otherwise? :confusedshrug:

[And1AllDay]

Whose saying that though? Making the finals is nowhere close to winning it. Why do LeBron fans pretend otherwise? :confusedshrug:

and how close is 1st rd exits? :oldlol:

you know im right im always right

[ImKobe]

and how close is 1st rd exits? :oldlol:

you know im right im always right

Losing in the 1st round 3x or missing the Playoffs 3x. Which is worse?

[MadDog]

and how close is 1st rd exits? :oldlol:

you know im right im always right

I don't even know who you are.

Everything is situational. LeBron gets no credit being bounced in the 1st round.

[And1AllDay]

I don't even know who you are.

Everything is situational. LeBron gets no credit being bounced in the 1st round.

coach....

[hold this L]

the guy that has a shot at chasing MJ for goat


so kawhi, Durant and especially Giannis.... outside chance booker, mitchell

for guys like cp3, George and harden it would be a bonus for them to just make the finals since they no longer have any shot at legendary status due to all the choking.



I've tried explaining this to lebron fans but they just keep ignoring me. the new bar/standard for being GOAT is having zero blemishes in the finals


if you're chasing goat status then losing in the finals is bad

if you're just trying to be like everyone else then it's OK


Lebron fans should have just compared their guy to a more suitable legend like magic or bird.. but nooooo.. they had to pick MJ


kobes finals Ls got shat on for a long time too. hes not the only one

Kawhi, Giannis, Booker, and Mitchell have a chance at being the goat? Maybe it's time to go back on another 5 year hiatus if those are the kind of takes you're gonna putting out.

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[ImKobe]

Kawhi, Giannis, Booker, and Mitchell have a chance at being the goat? Maybe it's time to go back on another 5 year hiatus if those are the kind of takes you're gonna putting out.

https://media1.tenor.com/images/47150584347f873015f5e81ea7b8bf34/tenor.gif?itemid=13739141

Kawhi and Giannis sure do, the other 2 maybe not but they're so young and have great teammates so who the hell knows. No one had Steph as a future top 20 GOAT at age 24 either, he made his first Playoffs and won his first series at age 25 and it trended up from there, who's to say that Mitchell and Booker can't get to that level?

[hold this L]

Kawhi and Giannis sure do, the other 2 maybe not but they're so young and have great teammates so who the hell knows. No one had Steph as a future top 20 GOAT at age 24 either, he made his first Playoffs and won his first series at age 25 and it trended up from there, who's to say that Mitchell and Booker can't get to that level?
Kawhi if he starts on a tear for the next 5 years, but he is already breaking down. Also noone is going to put him on a goat trajectory when he plays like a punk during RS. Giannis has no chance, even if he wins a few rings. He's an incredibly limited player that is so dominant purely due to his size and strength. Unless he develops some level of skill that an average NBA player has when it comes either shooting or scoring.


Luka if he develops his game might, but he has something special. Book and Mitchell on other hand.. nah. Mitchell a lot of games is the 3rd most impactful player on his team where Conley and CC are his teammates. Both would need to raise their game a lot. Steph is just an outlier, his improvement (as well as Kawhi's) are things you generally don't see.

[And1AllDay]

so anyway a lotta jabber w/ no substance

whose legacy takes big hit for winning more playoffs series and losing less?

[ImKobe]

Kawhi if he starts on a tear for the next 5 years, but he is already breaking down. Also noone is going to put him on a goat trajectory when he plays like a punk during RS. Giannis has no chance, even if he wins a few rings. He's an incredibly limited player that is so dominant purely due to his size and strength. Unless he develops some level of skill that an average NBA player has when it comes either shooting or scoring.


Luka if he develops his game might, but he has something special. Book and Mitchell on other hand.. nah. Mitchell a lot of games is the 3rd most impactful player on his team where Conley and CC are his teammates. Both would need to raise their game a lot. Steph is just an outlier, his improvement (as well as Kawhi's) are things you generally don't see.

Booker and Mitchell are only 24, we can't really say for certain because they're great offensively and have great teammates, so if they can go up another level as they hit their peak years, who the hell knows. If Kawhi wins this year, that's 3 rings/3 FMVPs with 3 different teams and the Clippers are good enough to contend for another 2-3 years, I don't really see a decline in his Playoff production yet so if he ends up with 4-5 rings and FMVPs, he'll definitely be mentioned among the GOATs by some people. Giannis has the RS production, is an elite 2-way player and his team is good enough to contend for titles, so it's a matter of coming through in the POs, he's not out of it yet at age 26, Jordan didn't win his first before age 28.

Luka and Jokic both have top 5 GOAT potential as players, but like everyone else, they'll need incredible luck (great teammates, no injuries) and longevity to have a comparable resume.

[kenneth_griffin]

so if you lose the 1st rd its better

:oldlol:

bb bois shook


if you lose in the first round then its obvious you're nowhere near title contention. it's very very rare like dirk in 2007. and even then the mavs weren't the clear cut favorite. the Spurs had a way deeper team

when you make the finals and have a team built to win championships and you fail.. that takes you out of goat contention. because whenever jordan had a finals team he won. simple as that. worry about lebron vs magic all time debates and we'll stop mocking your boyfriend

[dankok8]

Your king failed in this postseason.

Deal with it!

[kenneth_griffin]

Kawhi, Giannis, Booker, and Mitchell have a chance at being the goat? Maybe it's time to go back on another 5 year hiatus if those are the kind of takes you're gonna putting out.

https://media1.tenor.com/images/47150584347f873015f5e81ea7b8bf34/tenor.gif?itemid=13739141

any extremely young star that's on the cusp of winning titles has a shot at being GOAT some day. why wouldn't they. who knows how good they can be

nobody thought Jordan was much more than a ball hog loser back in the mid 80s

Giannis is a 2 time mvp and could suddenly develop into a more all around player. if that ever happened it would be lights out for everyone else

kawhi lost in the finals in 2013 but I dont think many people would hold that against him. he's a 2 time dpoty and 2 time fmvp

with jokic winning.league mvp just cause everyone else skipped too many games then who knows. he might win one or two if he's lucky. and he will likely be on a contender for the next 10 years since he has that lebron like ability to rig himself a better situation. so what if any of these guys run off a few titles. then you're in position to be taken seriously. but they won't be if they lose too many finals like leb*tch

[LAmbruh]

It's always been better to lose in the 1st round than have a dirty Finals blemish


That's why 80-90's greats like Stockton, Malone, Chuck, Payton, Clyde are held to such high regards and Westbrook/Harden are touted as perennial losers...


o wait

[kenneth_griffin]

so anyway a lotta jabber w/ no substance

whose legacy takes big hit for winning more playoffs series and losing less?

the guy that's chasing the goat who never lost in the finals

like I said. stick to magic comparisons and youl be fine. this is mj..he wins when he should. only lebron takes a loaded team to the finals and gets owned by jj barea

[And1AllDay]

It's always been better to lose in the 1st round than have a dirty Finals blemish


That's why 80-90's greats like Stockton, Malone, Chuck, Payton, Clyde are held to such high regards and Westbrook/Harden are touted as perennial losers...

gottem :oldlol::roll:

[LAmbruh]

gottem :oldlol::roll:
even "trash bro" lowry chipped up

:yaohappy:

[kenneth_griffin]

It's always been better to lose in the 1st round than have a dirty Finals blemish


That's why 80-90's greats like Stockton, Malone, Chuck, Payton, Clyde are held to such high regards and Westbrook/Harden are touted as perennial losers...


o wait

if Stockton or Malone had a bunch of rings and their fans tried saying they were better than MJ then people would give them sh*t for 97 and 98

but they're not chasing MJ.. theyre in the conversation with people like Charles barkley and Patrick Ewing.. so just being a finals loser is special for them

[kenneth_griffin]

even "trash bro" lowry chipped up

:yaohappy:


Jeff. tell your alter egos that if they want their idol to be left alone and be appreciated for his finals appearances then keep MJs name out their mouths and stick to lesser all time comparisons

[Pip' N Rodman]

Jeff. tell your alter egos that if they want their idol to be left alone and be appreciated for his finals appearances then keep MJs name out their mouths and stick to lesser all time comparisons

Can you prove you're kenneth

[kenneth_griffin]

here's a good one


lebron vs shaq

4 titles and 6 finals appearances vs 4 titles and 10 finals appearances


shaq had more legit finals wins but lebron has more mvps

shaq played during a better era but lebron had more.longevity

shaq was more dominant in his prime and only needed 1 other guy


lebron was more all around


see.. this is a normal debate and we wouldn't just laugh at lebrons finals Ls


stick to this formula letards

[And1AllDay]

even "trash bro" lowry chipped up

:yaohappy:

LAmb4uh gott''m spinning

:dancin

[And1AllDay]

here's a good one


lebron vs shaq

4 titles and 6 finals appearances vs 4 titles and 10 finals appearances


shaq had more legit finals wins but lebron has more mvps

shaq played during a better era but lebron had more.longevity

shaq was more dominant in his prime and only needed 1 other guy


lebron was more all around


see.. this is a normal debate and we wouldn't just laugh at lebrons finals Ls


stick to this formula letards

10 finals
4 fmvps

6 finals
3 fmvps

bran had 4 more finals and 1 more fmvp

fail :oldlol:

[BallsOut]

Lebron lost the most this season. Lost the ample respect that people had for him. Showed clearly how big ADs contribution to last year and this year’s success was to the Lakers. Showed that a hobbling AD playing kept the series alive at 2-2. Showed that Lebron gives up on teammates. Showed that he does not creat a winning culture. He needs readymade stars to win and he needs to be physically dominany to win. He showed lack of skills and versatility with his offense, limited to barreling his way through opponents. He showed lack of sportsmanship. All because of this year’s early exit.

I honestly had him at top2-3 before. I said this year should not have affected that, but it did. No way he is ahead of bird and magic with that mentality.

The truth shall set you free

[LAmbruh]

if Stockton or Malone had a bunch of rings and their fans tried saying they were better than MJ then people would give them sh*t for 97 and 98

but they're not chasing MJ.. theyre in the conversation with people like Charles barkley and Patrick Ewing.. so just being a finals loser is special for them
??

They're all regarded as Top 20 with a whopping collection of 0 chips and dozens non Finals exits :confusedshrug:

Why such a large skill gap between top 20 players back then and players today who have identical playoff resumes?

MJ wasn't the road block for John and Karl in their 7 first round exits. What happened?

[kenneth_griffin]

Can you prove you're kenneth

https://i.ibb.co/DR3bDyn/Screenshot-20210610-131834-Gallery.jpg


my empty wisers Texas mickey everyone loves so much

[kenneth_griffin]

10 finals
4 fmvps

6 finals
3 fmvps

bran had 4 more finals and 1 more fmvp

fail :oldlol:

you dont even realize I just got you to do what you should have been doing for the past 5 years or so

dance monkey dance

[LAmbruh]

https://i.ibb.co/DR3bDyn/Screenshot-20210610-131834-Gallery.jpg


my empty wisers Texas mickey everyone loves so much
we want to see the belt


and not the replica one, show us the belt

[Pip' N Rodman]

https://i.ibb.co/DR3bDyn/Screenshot-20210610-131834-Gallery.jpg


my empty wisers Texas mickey everyone loves so much

What happened to your old account

[jayfan]

will it be chris paul?
jokic?
kd?
giannis?

should they went the 1-9 route and lose more and sooner in 1st rd to protect legacy?

which legacy takes a hit for winning more games and not losing sooner?

It's all relative.

For Chris Paul, simply making the Finals would be a boost.

Jokic would also get a boost.

KD's legacy would take a hit.

Giannis needs a miracle to win the series he's in right now. If he somehow does, that's a boost. If he doesn't at least make a series out of it, it's another hit against him.



* By the way, Did Bron's legacy take a hit after getting swept in the '07 Finals?


Answer- No.



.

[kenneth_griffin]

??

They're all regarded as Top 20 with a whopping collection of 0 chips and dozens non Finals exits :confusedshrug:

Why such a large skill gap between top 20 players back then and players today who have identical playoff resumes?

MJ wasn't the road block for John and Karl in their 7 first round exits. What happened?



theres only around 15 or so guys with complete careers.. after that it's less about being a champion, mvp, finals mvp triple threat and more about having a legendary career while just coming up short


rings/mvps are more of a tie breaker between top tier players than what makes a top tier player. cause sometimes the media gets it wrong or someone wins a ring without really deserving it. bit when a guy has a near 20 year career dominating the game like Karl Malone its more than evident that there wasn't just some abnormality fluke anomaly involved


its mostly about context. something letards will never understand

[kenneth_griffin]

What happened to your old account

banned for exposing fonzworth as Jeff. he posted an administrator message under his fonzworth account and I screen shot it. and both had obsessions with Sam hyde

and fonzworth is always connected to lambruh and the 20 other "simon" alts in every thread. it could be Steve or someone else too. I dunno. all I know is I pulled the curtain back and this place has never been the same since

I dont even care if I get banned again for this post. the nba sucks c*ck now

[Pip' N Rodman]

banned for exposing fonzworth as Jeff. he posted an administrator message under his fonzworth account and I screen shot it. and both had obsessions with Sam hyde

and fonzworth is always connected to lambruh and the 20 other "simon" alts in every thread. it could be Steve or someone else too. I dunno. all I know is I pulled the curtain back and this place has never been the same since

I dont even care if I get banned again for this post. the nba sucks c*ck now

What happened to your original account

[kenneth_griffin]

I actually like Sam hyde now.. underrated comedic genius. he needs to lose weight though. he looks pretty f*cked up.these days

[kenneth_griffin]

What happened to your original account

oh .. I gave it to dubeta. one of Jeff's original alts

[MrFonzworth]

I actually like Sam hyde now.. underrated comedic genius. he needs to lose weight though. he looks pretty f*cked up.these days

:cheers:

Hyde really let himself go, very similar to ISH.

[kenneth_griffin]

I remember talking to Jeff through email and he gave me back my original account but when I tried changing emails I locked myself out again

[Pip' N Rodman]

oh .. I gave it to dubeta. one of Jeff's original alts

Where in Ottawa do you live

[And1AllDay]

you dont even realize I just got you to do what you should have been doing for the past 5 years or so

dance monkey dance

fail :oldlol::oldlol:

[And1AllDay]

banned for exposing fonzworth as Jeff. he posted an administrator message under his fonzworth account and I screen shot it. and both had obsessions with Sam hyde

and fonzworth is always connected to lambruh and the 20 other "simon" alts in every thread. it could be Steve or someone else too. I dunno. all I know is I pulled the curtain back and this place has never been the same since

I dont even care if I get banned again for this post. the nba sucks c*ck now

failure :oldlol::roll:

[kenneth_griffin]

Where in Ottawa do you live

just look up my IP.. oh wait I have a fake one that says I'm in Toronto or some shit

just follow the only road silly.. start in downtown ottawa and head east. youl see me eventually

[Indian guy]

Just KD. The rest are either too young or simply not on good enough teams.

Nets are overwhelming favorites on the other hand, with or without Harden. Anything less than a championship would be considered a 'choke'.

[hold this L]

any extremely young star that's on the cusp of winning titles has a shot at being GOAT some day. why wouldn't they. who knows how good they can be

nobody thought Jordan was much more than a ball hog loser back in the mid 80s

Giannis is a 2 time mvp and could suddenly develop into a more all around player. if that ever happened it would be lights out for everyone else

kawhi lost in the finals in 2013 but I dont think many people would hold that against him. he's a 2 time dpoty and 2 time fmvp

with jokic winning.league mvp just cause everyone else skipped too many games then who knows. he might win one or two if he's lucky. and he will likely be on a contender for the next 10 years since he has that lebron like ability to rig himself a better situation. so what if any of these guys run off a few titles. then you're in position to be taken seriously. but they won't be if they lose too many finals like leb*tch
Giannis is never getting a jumper, period. Only way he succeeds is if Jrue balls enough in the 4th Q. You don't start to develop elite shooting or scoring at age 26 when your shot is as broken as he is. Either jRue turns into a star, or he pairs with another top end guard in the next 2 years. People need to stop giving Giannis false hope with him getting jumper.

We'll see with Mitchell and Book, but saying goat potential is crazy to me. You have to become an elite player, in the top 10, then top 3-4 in the league and then you can start having discussions. Just way too early relative to their accomplishments. Only players in the last 20 years I can say goat potential is Bron in his first 3 years.

Kawhi I guess has a shot, but to me his chance lies more in top 20, 15 if he continues winning. He will always be regular season loser because he rests 20% of the season, I wouldn't put this guy in the goat list even if he won 3-4 more rings.



I don't put anyone in goat discussions until they earn a lot more equity and so far noone is on that list. I think Luka might have top 10 potential, but he needs to change a lot of his game and their GM needs to get to work.

[Shooter]

Love the thread :lol

All the 1st round exits are safe :lol

Any losers that won in the 1st, 2nd, 3rd round and THEN lost in the Finals are on the chopping block tho!


Whose legacy takes a BIG HIT for winning more playoff series?!

[Spurs m8]

Imagine putting yourself on a GOAT pedestal, but then applying a normal players expectation when it suits you

[Shooter]

Imagine putting yourself on a GOAT pedestal, but then applying a normal players expectation when it suits you

Who is taking a hit bro?

[Spurs m8]

Also, if some player was going to the finals and losing 70% of the time, that would hurt any legacy...let alone a self proclaimed GOAT.

WHAT A LOSER

[And1AllDay]

which legacy goes down after going farther in playoffs?

will it be chris paul?
jokic? *safe from legacy hit
kd?
giannis?
booker?
kawhi?
luka? *safe from legacy hit
embiid?
bran? *safe from legacy hit

which legacy takes a hit for winning more games and not losing sooner?

[kawhileonard2]

Lebron. Lost to a bunch of Playoff virgins and a washed up/injured CP3 in the first round. :kobe:

This!. Also won 2 bronze medals in basketball.

[And1AllDay]

which legacy goes down after going farther in playoffs?

will it be chris paul?
jokic? *safe from legacy hit
kd?
giannis?
booker?
kawhi?
luka? *safe from legacy hit
embiid?
bran? *safe from legacy hit

which legacy takes a hit for winning more games and not losing sooner?

cp3 is at risk now
pg 13 is safe

giannis at risk now
trae is safe

[Shogon]

lol @ this thread. Pulling the mental gymnasts out of the woodwork left and right... those that remain, anyways.

Imagine thinking getting to the Finals and losing somehow detracts from your legacy. This is literally a standard that was invented specifically to argue against LeBron's greatness. It's just made up. It doesn't mean anything.

From a basketball standpoint, LeBron has a grand total of 1 huge stain on his career... the 2011 Finals. Nobody anywhere disputes it. But that's it. The rest is just desperation looking for any reason to detract. His career has otherwise been virtually flawless.

Also... his all time ranking is unknowable, because all time rankings are unknowable.

He's an opportunistic piece of shit on a personal level but basketball? **** out of here, lol.

[Gohan]

poster above me is a bad poster. someone told me he gets the dreadful "bowl cut" at his local barber

[Jasper]

cp3 if he loses , his lagacy will be tarnished , but still a HOF selection.

Giannis if he loses , no big deal - he will be back.
(If he wins it not only solidifies a HOF but could be in PF of all time list. )

[Gohan]

cp3 if he loses , his lagacy will be tarnished , but still a hof selection.

Giannis if he loses , no big deal - he will be back.
(if he wins it not only solidifies a hof but could be in the best of all time list. )

fixed

[Axe]

Giannis.

[MadDog]

Nobody thinks that. Literally nobody. Losing in the finals only "hurts" when you're the favorite to WIN a championship. Or when a player is compared with contemporaries, who have equal or BETTER team success. Again, nobody says losing in the 1st round is greater than making a finals. That's cheap psychology from LeBron fans.

I've had a number of them tell me LeBron winning 4 and losing 6 > someone going 5/7. Which means they'd rather have 4 extra appearances over another ring. :oldlol: The imbecile OP was one of them.

[And1AllDay]

trae and kd and pg13 legacy is safe for losing :oldlol:

giannis and chris paul at risk tho :oldlol:

[Mr. Woke]

The Suns and Bucks are lucky as hell that they faced depleted rosters on their way to the Finals.

Just like the Raptors back in the 2019 Finals.

[Spurs m8]

This guy still really struggling that anyone who calls themselves a GOAT, is gonna struggle to be taken seriously when he has a losing finals record

Go play in traffic, do us all a favour

[Orange_Cassidy]

finals losses only hurt if you wanna become the goat. to guys like chris paul making the finals is good win or lose. for giannis you have to win cause he has goat potential.

lebron fans don't understand this. if you're chasing MJ you can't lose. if you're chasing everyone else its ok... because mike is the only league mvp without a finals loss and a bunch of rings

anyone else with 3 or more has a loss on their record

[Spurs m8]

finals losses only hurt if you wanna become the goat. to guys like chris paul making the finals is good win or lose. for giannis you have to win cause he has goat potential.

lebron fans don't understand this. if you're chasing MJ you can't lose. if you're chasing everyone else its ok... because mike is the only league mvp without a finals loss and a bunch of rings

anyone else with 3 or more has a loss on their record

In the end, I think they do actually get it...they just think if they gaslight us enough, maybe we can be swayed.

We can't though.

These guys would be mentally abusive to girlfriends, if they could get one.
Thank god they can't

[8Ball]

In the end, I think they do actually get it...they just think if they gaslight us enough, maybe we can be swayed.

We can't though.

These guys would be mentally abusive to girlfriends, if they could get one.
Thank god they can't


Fans that hate Bron are fans that hate high IQ basketball.

Yall just like carmelo scoring.

[Carbine]

Giannis doesn't have GOAT potential.

Top 10-15 yes. But not the god tier level of Magic/Kareem/MJ/Bron and one or two others

[TheMan]

Fans that hate Bron are fans that hate high IQ basketball.

Yall just like carmelo scoring.

Wrong, there are actually few fans like Skip that "hate" LeBron. We damn well know he's an all time great, but we also know he's not the undisputed GOAT y'all LBJ ******gers try to sell him as. Bron is top 10 GOAT, #8 on my list, had to knock him down a bit after his embarrasing first round exit.

[Gudo]

Wrong, there are actually few fans like Skip that "hate" LeBron. We damn well know he's an all time great, but we also know he's not the undisputed GOAT y'all LBJ ******gers try to sell him as. Bron is top 10 GOAT, #8 on my list, had to knock him down a bit after his embarrasing first round exit.

Exactly this.

[And1AllDay]

This guy still really struggling that anyone who calls themselves a GOAT, is gonna struggle to be taken seriously when he has a losing finals record

Go play in traffic, do us all a favour

this is called projecting. when you keep saying some is 'struggling' or 'taking it hard'

tell us more m8 :oldlol:

[And1AllDay]

finals losses only hurt if you wanna become the goat. to guys like chris paul making the finals is good win or lose. for giannis you have to win cause he has goat potential.

lebron fans don't understand this. if you're chasing MJ you can't lose. if you're chasing everyone else its ok... because mike is the only league mvp without a finals loss and a bunch of rings

anyone else with 3 or more has a loss on their record

mike only went to 6 finals, what happened the other 10 years :oldlol:

[And1AllDay]

Wrong, there are actually few fans like Skip that "hate" LeBron. We damn well know he's an all time great, but we also know he's not the undisputed GOAT y'all LBJ ******gers try to sell him as. Bron is top 10 GOAT, #8 on my list, had to knock him down a bit after his embarrasing first round exit.

:oldlol:

iM nOt a hAteR leBroN iS tOp 8 :oldlol:

2ez to see those tears coming down bb boi :oldlol: