Should privately run enterprises / businesses be allowed to refuse you service?

[hiphopanonymous]

I see a lot of people on here really hate that in American society businesses can currently decide to refuse, cancel, or kick you out of their service or facilities if you don't adhere to their rules or regulations or even for whatever other reasons including ones about drumming up what they deem to be controversial or conspiracies etc. For example getting kicked out of a baseball stadium for a "Trump Won" banner, or getting temporarily banned from Facebook or Twitter for also sharing what they deem to be debunked conspiracy theories (whether you agree or disagree that it's debunked it's what they believe and they're just exercising their rights to enforce their rules).

My question is, do you want their freedom to run their business as they see fit to be taken away from them? And if so, how do you want to enforce this? Do you want our government (which constitutionally tries / has been built to stay out of these things) to actually get bigger, take on more responsibility and step in to hurt business owners rights so that your consumer rights to act how you please are greater? If so, isn't this a very liberal idea that goes against conservative values that especially try to open up business freedoms and keep a small government so that it stays out of these kinds of private socially decided things?

The government as I said has traditionally stayed out of things like this and this is what true conservative values actually tends to lean towards (smaller / reduced government interventions). So if you want private businesses to be governed somehow to not be allowed to refuse your services if you speak out or act out in a way that they dislike than who would be the ones to govern them to let you say or do what you want if it isn't a governing body? So I guess my questions boil down to:

* Should new rules be imposed?

If so

* Who should make the new rules?
* Who should enforce the new rules?

I'm having trouble figuring out how this could ever be done without some sort of far bigger more socially controlling government capable of micromanaging businesses (this is bad for businesses and very much against conservative values as it would hinder not promote economic growth). So I guess I'd like to hear your guys thoughts :cheers:

[RRR3]

Privatization shouldn’t exist. Next question.

[FultzNationRISE]

OP is having his psychotic break. Everyone please remain patient.

Refrain from any loud noises or sudden movements.

[hiphopanonymous]

Privatization shouldn’t exist. Next question.
Without privatized exchange you could have never posted on the computer or phone you just posted on. They wouldn't have even been invented without the concept of privatization do you want to live like it's 3 million years ago and fend off leopard attacks at night like before humanity began to grasp the reality of privatization? At some point someone killed a gazelle and a hungry person came by a successful hunter and said "I'll give you a few extra of my finely crafted spear points for a leg from your gazelle you killed" and thus privatization began to enable us to share our personal goods and wealth to improve everyone's lives and pave our way forward.

Thank goodness for privatization.

[JohnnySic]

Some numbnuts at a small shop near me hassled me about not wearing a mask the other day, even though the mask mandate is over. LOL. I just wont shop there anymore, at least when he's on shift. I went back when he was gone and had no problems.

[rawimpact]

Dumbass post

Private businesses should always have the right to choose who they do business with as long as it's within the law. Their hiring and employment conditions should follow similarly.

IF the government ever wanted to enforce something, they would just make it law according to the DOL. Every small business has a poster hanging somewhere that has both federal and state labor laws. The changes they want to make would just be amended to it... simple.

Will this ever happen? Absolutely not. It is completely against capitalism, which is why ISH's punching bag up there makes such stupid statements for it.

[And1AllDay]

OP is having his psychotic break. Everyone please remain patient.

Refrain from any loud noises or sudden movements.

:oldlol::roll:

[baudkarma]

I definitely think business should be able who they will or won't do business with. You don't want to bake a cake for a gay wedding? You should have that right. Don't want to work on foreign cars? You shouldn't have to. My only concern is that a business will use capricious reasons as cover to get away with illegal discrimination. You don't want that black kid shopping in your store? You can't tell him you don't do business with black people, but you can tell him you don't do business with anyone wearing a Public Enemy t-shirt.

[Axe]

I believe there is nothing wrong with privatization. People would want their businesses or companies, with their products or services, to do their best to contribute to the economy anyway. However, it becomes bad once they are managed by corrupt people who are involved in political dynasties for a long time, although the ones usually involved have big names and huge success in them. Honestly, it truly sucks when you have to pay for more only to get less in return.

[Cleverness]

Do you want our government (which constitutionally tries / has been built to stay out of these things) to actually get bigger, take on more responsibility and step in to hurt business owners rights so that your consumer rights to act how you please are greater? If so, isn't this a very liberal idea that goes against conservative values that especially try to open up business freedoms and keep a small government so that it stays out of these kinds of private socially decided things?

The government as I said has traditionally stayed out of things like this and this is what true conservative values actually tends to lean towards (smaller / reduced government interventions). So if you want private businesses to be governed somehow to not be allowed to refuse your services if you speak out or act out in a way that they dislike than who would be the ones to govern them to let you say or do what you want if it isn't a governing body? So I guess my questions boil down to:


lol'd at the bolded parts.


OP is having his psychotic break. Everyone please remain patient.

Refrain from any loud noises or sudden movements.

dude must have just woken up from a two year slumber.

someone may wanna inform him that the biggest, most powerful gov't the world has ever seen, that supposedly is kept "limited" by operating under the Constitution (LOL), that regulates everything from how much toilet water flushes down your toilet, to how you look at someone, just completely obliterated the idea of a private business these past 15 months.

[Shooter]

OP is having his psychotic break. Everyone please remain patient.

Refrain from any loud noises or sudden movements.

:roll::roll:

[Patrick Chewing]

I refuse people that are wearing masks. As a jewelry store owner, I need to see the faces of potential thieves who may want to rob me before I unload my .45 in them. Safest jewelry store in the city.

[BigKobeFan]

I refuse people that are wearing masks. As a jewelry store owner, I need to see the faces of potential thieves who may want to rob me before I unload my .45 in them. Safest jewelry store in the city.:applause:

[tpols]

Very slippery slope. This is what segregation was built on.

[72-10]

I refuse people that are wearing masks. As a jewelry store owner, I need to see the faces of potential thieves who may want to rob me before I unload my .45 in them. Safest jewelry store in the city.

yeah and probably the least profitable

[72-10]

I have never liked the fact that businesses hold their customers to such stringent, higher standards than the law, but in reality I've realized not only that one can expect that, but that it's not so much the business as the fact that a few choice employees that I had happened to interact with have chosen to act like assholes. For instance, I've been denied a drink (not water, of course) as a paying customer on the premise that I had broken the law on the walk to get the drink without the server having any type of evidence of the walk. The employee ended up in jail, as did the rest of the staff on duty, but that didn't change the fact that I didn't have the urgently needed hydration on a hot summer day.

If businesses were not so lean with their customer, suffice it to say that less of their employees would end up in jail.

[Patrick Chewing]

yeah and probably the least profitable

Nonsense. People keep getting married and men keep buying jewelry for their wives, girlfriends and mistresses and sometimes for all three.

Always turning a profit.

[72-10]

Nonsense. People keep getting married and men keep buying jewelry for their wives, girlfriends and mistresses and sometimes for all three.

Always turning a profit.

Very good, as the jewelry is clearly for them.