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ArbitraryWater
06-12-2021, 02:51 AM
https://twitter.com/stephenasmith/status/1403400243757076482


I agree

What do you think?

His ceiling is higher than Malone's and he will end up higher than him on the all time list.

kenneth_griffin
06-12-2021, 03:00 AM
skill wise probably.

Malone and Stockton obviously have the better careers and are ranked higher but just like I said in another thread those 2 are useless without each other. Mitchell doesn't depend on anyone to be great.. and btw Mitchell is team kobe. isn't OP a leturd fan

000
06-12-2021, 03:02 AM
Does that mean durant is jordan

Axe
06-12-2021, 03:03 AM
Not toody? Aww. :ohwell:

Xiao Yao You
06-12-2021, 03:05 AM
skill wise probably.

Malone and Stockton obviously have the better careers and are ranked higher but just like I said in another thread those 2 are useless without each other. Mitchell doesn't depend on anyone to be great.. and btw Mitchell is team kobe. isn't OP a letard fan

Mitchell depends on Gobert(with the help of Conley this year) carrying the team to the playoffs. Malone and Stockton are two of the greatest two way players ever. To say they would have been useless without each other is laughable. It's ridiculous to even talk about

Compare this lottery player to Mitchell. Very similar stats. The lottery player is younger. Pretty sure there are several others that compare favorably to him as well on bad teams

https://www.basketball-reference.com/players/m/mitchdo01.html

https://www.basketball-reference.com/players/s/sextoco01.html

Manny98
06-12-2021, 03:12 AM
Dude just compared Mitchell to Colin ****ing Sexton :facepalm

Smoke117
06-12-2021, 03:17 AM
And this is why we call him Autistic Waters.

000
06-12-2021, 03:55 AM
Dude just compared Mitchell to Colin ****ing Sexton :facepalm

Someone needs to call Dennis lindsey, tell him to trade mitchell for sexton

Its for the teams future

Dr Hawk
06-12-2021, 04:24 AM
He is not a superstar nor is even close from being the best player ever for Utah. He is a good player that is in a hot streak right now.

ArbitraryWater
06-12-2021, 04:59 AM
He is not a superstar nor is even close from being the best player ever for Utah. He is a good player that is in a hot streak right now.

he seems to be in a hot streak a lot when the playoffs are around

Xiao Yao You
06-12-2021, 05:22 AM
Someone needs to call Dennis lindsey, tell him to trade mitchell for sexton

Its for the teams future

that's actually why I was looking at his numbers because he's rumored to be on the trade block. Cheaper, younger with similar stats. He can't be worse defensively and has a lot more upside

000
06-12-2021, 05:23 AM
that's actually why I was looking at his numbers because he's rumored to be on the trade block. Cheaper, younger with similar stats. He can't be worse defensively and has a lot more upside

Lol

Xiao Yao You
06-12-2021, 05:23 AM
He is not a superstar nor is even close from being the best player ever for Utah. He is a good player that is in a hot streak right now.

He's not Dantley, Maravich, Deron Williams...

000
06-12-2021, 05:56 AM
mitchell - 39/8 per 100 on 57% ts
tatum - 36/6 per 100 on 58% ts
booker - 37/6 per 100 on 59% ts

colin sexton doe, amirite?

miggyme1
06-12-2021, 06:10 AM
Im sick of the “shock jock” reporting of most of todays journalist. This is donovans 4th year in the league....No mvps....hasnt even finished top 3 in a mvp race,hasnt been past the second round in the playoffs. Has a few utah jazz records under his belt but nothing anybody will remember 10 years from now and stephen smith is already calling him the greatest jazz player. Funny....nobody started calling kobe the greatest laker ever until he won those last two rings without shaq. Nobody called jordan the greatest bull ever until he got past the pistons.....think it was like his 7th year in the league. Larry bird had to win 3 rings in 10 years with 3 MVPS and 2 finals Mvps to become the greatest celtic of all time. Smh

Xiao Yao You
06-12-2021, 06:50 AM
Im sick of the “shock jock” reporting of most of todays journalist. This is donovans 4th year in the league....No mvps....hasnt even finished top 3 in a mvp race,hasnt been past the second round in the playoffs. Has a few utah jazz records under his belt but nothing anybody will remember 10 years from now and stephen smith is already calling him the greatest jazz player. Funny....nobody started calling kobe the greatest laker ever until he won those last two rings without shaq. Nobody called jordan the greatest bull ever until he got past the pistons.....think it was like his 7th year in the league. Larry bird had to win 3 rings in 10 years with 3 MVPS and 2 finals Mvps to become the greatest celtic of all time. Smh

no all NBA selections, Not the best player on his team.

ImKobe
06-12-2021, 08:02 AM
That's a bit of an overreaction, but that's what the media does in order to sell the new product.

Malone and Stockton are both better, I'm not sure I'd even put Mitchell over Deron or Boozer yet. Deron was competing with CP3 for the best PG in the league title in the late 2000s, Mitchell is not on that level as of right now.

ArbitraryWater
06-12-2021, 08:19 AM
That's a bit of an overreaction, but that's what the media does in order to sell the new product.

Malone and Stockton are both better, I'm not sure I'd even put Mitchell over Deron or Boozer yet. Deron was competing with CP3 for the best PG in the league title in the late 2000s, Mitchell is not on that level as of right now.

Not just is he at that level, Deron was only relevant for 4 years.

Boozer? Stop clowning to prop up Kobe.

Boozer was terrible.

Xiao Yao You
06-12-2021, 08:28 AM
Not just is he at that level, Deron was only relevant for 4 years.

Boozer? Stop clowning to prop up Kobe.

Boozer was terrible.

Deron was the best player on his team. Mitchell isn't even in the top two on his

tpols
06-12-2021, 08:32 AM
Xiao furious.

Imagine watching a guy on your favorite team drop 41/5/3 on elite efficiency and saying he ain't good.

tpols
06-12-2021, 08:33 AM
Not just is he at that level, Deron was only relevant for 4 years.

Boozer? Stop clowning to prop up Kobe.

Boozer was terrible.

Boozer was a multiple time All Star and made the All NBA team. He was far from sucking on the Jazz.

ImKobe
06-12-2021, 08:35 AM
Not just is he at that level, Deron was only relevant for 4 years.

Boozer? Stop clowning to prop up Kobe.

Boozer was terrible.

Deron was a 20 pt 10 ast guy who could also shoot 3s. He led his team to the WCF and didn't have deeper runs because AK-47 was injury-prone & Kobe was there to stop him 3 years in a row from 08-10.

Boozer terrible? He averaged 20/13/3 in his playoff career in Utah and he was All-NBA in '08. He outplayed Yao Ming when Utah upset them in the 1st round in 7 games in '07. Boozer had 35/14/5 62%TS in a road Game 7 and Deron had 20 pts 14 ast 63%TS as well to upset a healthy T-Mac & Yao Ming @Houston.

ArbitraryWater
06-12-2021, 09:20 AM
Deron was a 20 pt 10 ast guy who could also shoot 3s. He led his team to the WCF and didn't have deeper runs because AK-47 was injury-prone & Kobe was there to stop him 3 years in a row from 08-10.

Boozer terrible? He averaged 20/13/3 in his playoff career in Utah and he was All-NBA in '08. He outplayed Yao Ming when Utah upset them in the 1st round in 7 games in '07. Boozer had 35/14/5 62%TS in a road Game 7 and Deron had 20 pts 14 ast 63%TS as well to upset a healthy T-Mac & Yao Ming @Houston.

Trash era, as you can see.

Boozer had zero skills, which is why he fizzled out so quickly.

red1
06-12-2021, 09:27 AM
mitchell is going down as a superstar. we already know this.


those spiderman shoes are going to sell a shitload. I was already looking at his shoes before the bubble last year and he's done nothing but shit on everyone since that series with the nuggets last year.

ImKobe
06-12-2021, 09:41 AM
Trash era, as you can see.

Boozer had zero skills, which is why he fizzled out so quickly.

What? Boozer was one of the toughest rebounders and a very underrated defensive player and he was automatic from mid-range in his prime and played his ass off in Chicago. The only reason you're not giving him any respect is because Lebron missed the Playoffs with him. He had a higher PER, winshares & BPM than Lebron in 2004 and went to the Jazz the following year and eventually became a star 20/10 player there.

tpols
06-12-2021, 09:51 AM
If anything Boozer lacked it was athleticism lol... he was skilled but slow. Just looked it up... He made All NBA over Pau. :oldlol:

ImKobe
06-12-2021, 09:55 AM
If anything Boozer lacked it was athleticism lol... he was skilled but slow. Just looked it up... He made All NBA over Pau. :oldlol:

Yeah, he was all heart and a 40-50% mid-range shooter in his prime. Lol @ calling him trash when he outplayed prime Yao in the Playoffs & went toe to toe with prime Duncan in the WCF.

tontoz
06-12-2021, 10:11 AM
Dude has never even made 3rd team All-NBA. I like Mitchell but get real he's made 2 All-Star games.

Code Breaker
06-12-2021, 10:16 AM
Damn Stephen A BBall analysis has really gone downhill. It would’ve been better if he said top three or on pace to be the best Jazz Player.

kenneth_griffin
06-12-2021, 10:48 AM
Mitchell depends on Gobert(with the help of Conley this year) carrying the team to the playoffs. Malone and Stockton are two of the greatest two way players ever. To say they would have been useless without each other is laughable. It's ridiculous to even talk about

Compare this lottery player to Mitchell. Very similar stats. The lottery player is younger. Pretty sure there are several others that compare favorably to him as well on bad teams

https://www.basketball-reference.com/players/m/mitchdo01.html

https://www.basketball-reference.com/players/s/sextoco01.html

Stockton and Malone depended on each other individually. not success wise. gobert isn't helping Mitchell drop 40 at will in the playoffs

FKAri
06-12-2021, 11:06 AM
he seems to be in a hot streak a lot when the playoffs are around

Something you couldn't say about past Jazz greats

DABIGSALSISHA
06-12-2021, 01:35 PM
He is not a superstar nor is even close from being the best player ever for Utah. He is a good player that is in a hot streak right now.

Utah and Memphis would've gone 7 games had Mitchell not played.

That's how good he is but i agree, not even close to a Malone or a Stockton right now since those two guys accomplished so much more.

Donovan has lots of time to do that and a bright future ahead of him.

DABIGSALSISHA
06-12-2021, 01:39 PM
Damn Stephen A BBall analysis has really gone downhill. It would’ve been better if he said top three or on pace to be the best Jazz Player.

Stephen A. is an idiot. Discrediting Malone and Stockton like that, dumbass.

Bronbron23
06-12-2021, 02:53 PM
https://twitter.com/stephenasmith/status/1403400243757076482


I agree

What do you think?

His ceiling is higher than Malone's and he will end up higher than him on the all time list.

I think your an idiot and hypocrite. Apparently bron is a better scorer because he has more total points than mj but apparently this logic only applies whet it suits your narrative. Your a clown bruh:facepalm

Xiao Yao You
06-12-2021, 03:00 PM
Boozer was a multiple time All Star and made the All NBA team. He was far from sucking on the Jazz.

He's actually more like Mitchell because he played little D either and wasn't the best player on the team. Wasn't even the best at his position on the team like Mitchell

Xiao Yao You
06-12-2021, 03:02 PM
Dude has never even made 3rd team All-NBA. I like Mitchell but get real he's made 2 All-Star games.

and highly debatable if he deserved either

Xiao Yao You
06-12-2021, 03:03 PM
Stockton and Malone depended on each other individually. not success wise. gobert isn't helping Mitchell drop 40 at will in the playoffs

The first 3 baskets last game were off Gobert screens. pretty much all of his misses and turnovers were off iso so yes he does need his teammates

Xiao Yao You
06-12-2021, 03:04 PM
Something you couldn't say about past Jazz greats

you mean when defenders could touch you?

kabacho
06-12-2021, 03:09 PM
Malone was mpv.

Mitchell is barely a one time all-stars.
nba fans have the shortest memory.

Thenameless
06-12-2021, 03:12 PM
Karl Malone is second all time in career points. John Stockton is first all time in career assists. Both in the NBA Top 50. Both on Dream Team.

There's a ways to go yet.

Locked_Up_Tonight
06-12-2021, 04:12 PM
**Insert Billy Madison moderator's remarks here**

kawhileonard2
06-12-2021, 11:15 PM
Something you couldn't say about past Jazz greats

Malone/Stockton went thru Hakeem/Barkley/Drexler and then Duncan/Robinson and then Shaq/Kobe and then had to play MJ in the finals. Talking about brutal. Basically all top 10 players all time in each series.

Hamtaro CP3KDKG
06-12-2021, 11:19 PM
Karl Malone is second all time in career points. John Stockton is first all time in career assists. Both in the NBA Top 50. Both on Dream Team.

There's a ways to go yet.

Stockton's also 1st all-time in steals which might be more unreachable than the assists.