Why do Kobe fans keep their heads down when we talk about MVPs?

[Shooter]

He had 1 MVP in 20 years (yikes)
He had 2 FMVP in 20 years (yikes)

Is that why?

[Spurs m8]

He had 1 MVP in 20 years (yikes)
He had 2 FMVP in 20 years (yikes)

Is that why?

Because they arent stupid like you idiots hahaha

[000]

Kia Mvp = derrick rose award
Bill russell Fmvp = andre iguodala award

[Dr Hawk]

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[Shooter]

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5 Finals without a FMVP you are correct. 2 for 7. He missed 5 times

[Dr Hawk]

5 Finals without a FMVP you are correct. 2 for 7. He missed 5 times

He cared more about winning than about trophies. 5 rings out of 7 Finals. I will take it.

[000]

5 Finals without a FMVP you are correct. 2 for 7. He missed 5 times
Won back to back with 1 allstar. Something leking James has yet to do

[highwhey]

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is that mrfonzworth sitting behind kobe?

[Shooter]

is that mrfonzworth sitting behind kobe?

:roll::roll::roll:

[Spurs m8]

He cared more about winning than about trophies. 5 rings out of 7 Finals. I will take it.

Amazing that by now these stans STILL can't compute LeStatPadding is why his finals record is so bad.

And these other guys played to win

[Shooter]

Amazing that by now these stans STILL can't compute LeStatPadding is why his finals record is so bad.

And these other guys played to win

You know Kobe has three 1st round exits right? And he missed the playoffs in his prime? :lol :lol

[Spurs m8]

You know Kobe has three 1st round exits right? And he missed the playoffs in his prime? :lol :lol

He also has 5 rings and a 3peat (because he put the team ahead of himself)

[SouBeachTalents]

He also has 5 rings and a 3peat (because he put the team ahead of himself)
Having peak Shaq and Phil Jackson might've had something to do with that as well

[Shooter]

He also has 5 rings and a 3peat (because he put the team ahead of himself)

Head down please. Thanks

[coin24]

LeTiny in the west:

Missed playoffs
Rode Davis to pathetic bubble title
Lost first round, only 2 wins with Davis beasting

Big time yikes!!!

[Shooter]

LeTiny in the west:

Missed playoffs
Rode Davis to pathetic bubble title
Lost first round, only 2 wins with Davis beasting

Big time yikes!!!

You, too. Head down please. Thanks

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[Shooter]

Won back to back with 1 allstar. Something leking James has yet to do

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Head • DOWN

[Hey Yo]

He cared more about winning than about trophies. 5 rings out of 7 Finals. I will take it.

2004 Finals disagrees with you.

[Hey Yo]

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He was asked how many times Colorado Kate screamed no and told him to stop.

[tpols]

Shaq only had 1 MVP dummy. Its a great award but is circumstantial. Iverson was like 1/3 of the player Shaq was and he won it over him. Rose won it over 2011 Dirk. Westbrook A first round bust won it in 2017 over Curry And Durant. Giannis wins it getting swept in the 2nd round while getting locked up.

Its nice but as long as you won one that's all that matters. Proves best in the league status.

[Shooter]

Shaq only had 1 MVP dummy. Its a great award but is circumstantial. Iverson was like 1/3 of the player Shaq was and he won it over him. Rose won it over 2011 Dirk. Westbrook A first round bust won it in 2017 over Curry And Durant. Giannis wins it getting swept in the 2nd round while getting locked up.

Its nice but as long as you won one that's all that matters. Proves best in the league status.

Definitely YOU keep your head down :lol Could be the worst one of the bunch as a Kobestan

Head down please. Thanks

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[Axe]

is that mrfonzworth sitting behind kobe?
:milton

[Spurs m8]

LeTiny in the west:

Missed playoffs
Rode Davis to pathetic bubble title
Lost first round, only 2 wins with Davis beasting

Big time yikes!!!

The exposure is real.

Davis literally had to score 34 each time the Lakers won in the first round.

LeBron literally can't win a playoff game without him.
Can't get to the playoffs without him.

[Shooter]

The exposure is real.

Davis literally had to score 34 each time the Lakers won in the first round.

LeBron literally can't win a playoff game without him.
Can't get to the playoffs without him.

Anthony Davis had won 1 playoff series before joining LeBron. Just 1.

LeQuatro quadrupled his Playoff win series total in one year in 2020 when he carried him to the Finals.

Next :lol

[ImKobe]

Anthony Davis had won 1 playoff series before joining LeBron. Just 1.

LeQuatro quadrupled his Playoff win series total in one year in 2020 when he carried him to the Finals.

Next :lol

Davis won a series, Lebron ain't even won a game without AD in the Wild Wild West.

[Shooter]

Davis won a series, Lebron ain't even won a game without AD in the Wild Wild West.

Low IQ Alert
See: 2012, 2013, 2016

LeBron did what nine Western teams couldn't
Beat the 2012 West Thunder
Beat the 2013 West Spurs
Beat the 2016 West Warriors

Keep. Up. :lol Sheesh

[kuniva_dAMiGhTy]

Low IQ Alert
See: 2012, 2013, 2016

LeBron did what nine Western teams couldn't
Beat the 2012 West Thunder
Beat the 2013 West Spurs
Beat the 2016 West Warriors

Keep. Up. :lol Sheesh

Bean said IN the West.

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[Shooter]

Bean said IN the West.

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Yep, those teams were in the West

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[Smoke117]

Let’s also not forget the one MVP he did get was a sympathy award.

[kuniva_dAMiGhTy]

Yep, those teams were in the West

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But Lebron and his teams weren't.

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[Shooter]

But Lebron and his teams weren't.

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Someone had to stop these Western powerhouse teams. Certainly the weak West wasn't capable of doing it.

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[kuniva_dAMiGhTy]

Lebron had leftover West scraps.

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We'll give him that much.

[Shooter]

Lebron had leftover West scraps.

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We'll give him that much.

Turned a 73 win team into fodder

Turned a dynasty with 5 Hall of famers into their first and only Finals loss (Sorry Duncan)

Turned a big 4 with 3 MVPs into a joke (KD, Russ, Harden, Ibaka)

#WildWildWest

:yaohappy:

Now tell us all about them Jordan chips :lol

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[Lebron23]

But he has more all star MVP Doe LMAO.

[Lebron23]

Only idiots and retards compared Kobe to LeBron. 4x nba MVP, 4x finals are better than 1 MVP and 2 finals MVP. Lakers won an NBA championship with Kobe averaging 15 ppg

[ImKobe]

Only idiots and retards compared Kobe to LeBron. 4x nba MVP, 4x finals are better than 1 MVP and 2 finals MVP. Lakers won an NBA championship with Kobe averaging 15 ppg


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[ImKobe]

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[ImKobe]

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[000]

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but according to the media, kobe is only as good as derrick rose, so none of those actually happened. checkmate

[ImKobe]

but according to the media, kobe is only as good as derrick rose, so none of those actually happened. checkmate

He gets little to not credit for the 1st 3-Peat, despite him being the closer and the playmaker for all 3 + the best player in half the series. FMVP is all people care about (see: Steph's 2015 title), even though all the real Finals happened out West and Kobe was the Lakers' best player when it came to closing out Portland or beating the Spurs in those years.

[Shooter]

Turned a 73 win team into fodder

Turned a dynasty with 5 Hall of famers into their first and only Finals loss (Sorry Duncan)

Turned a big 4 with 3 MVPs into a joke (KD, Russ, Harden, Ibaka)

#WildWildWest

:yaohappy:

Now tell us all about them Jordan chips:lol

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Kuniva?

[Shooter]

Only idiots and retards compared Kobe to LeBron. 4x nba MVP, 4x finals are better than 1 MVP and 2 finals MVP. Lakers won an NBA championship with Kobe averaging 15 ppg

Kobe is top 15 discussion
LeBron is top 1 discussion

[Overdrive]

5 Finals without a FMVP you are correct. 2 for 7. He missed 5 times

I wonder who are the guys who have even more MVPless finals.

[StrongLurk]

All stans are a problem, including OP.

[Shooter]

All stans are a problem, including OP.

:( Probably so, just fighting fire with fire at this point.

[Shooter]

I wonder who are the guys who have even more MVPless finals.

I count 4 FMVP to 2 FMVP

Your move :pimp:

[SouBeachTalents]

He gets little to not credit for the 1st 3-Peat, despite him being the closer and the playmaker for all 3 + the best player in half the series. FMVP is all people care about (see: Steph's 2015 title), even though all the real Finals happened out West and Kobe was the Lakers' best player when it came to closing out Portland or beating the Spurs in those years.
Lmao, you're completely full of shit. LeBron's titles where he was clearly the best player on the team gets asterisked because his teammate hits a shot, but the guy who was 2nd best for 3 titles gets more credit because of a handful of games and series. Hypocrisy at it's finest :lol The idea y'all would ever give LeBron credit if he won those titles under the same exact circumstances is laughable

[Airupthere]

Not a big kobe fan. But there is nothing to keep your head down for if youre a kobe fan. He had a very respectable career. Quite a unique character even if he took much from jordan, he still made it his own.

[ImKobe]

Lmao, you're completely full of shit. LeBron's titles where he was clearly the best player on the team gets asterisked because his teammate hits a shot, but the guy who was 2nd best for 3 titles gets more credit because of a handful of games and series. Hypocrisy at it's finest :lol The idea y'all would ever give LeBron credit if he won those titles under the same exact circumstances is laughable

False. Lebron wasn't the best player in last year's Playoffs, and he had the benefit of resting 4 months before a Playoff run and played a bunch of injured teams in that title run (Dame injury, Westbrook COVID + injury, Bam and Dragic injury).

Kobe was the best player against the Lakers' toughest opponents for the 3-Peat. Anthony Davis was the best player and the closer against the Lakers' toughest opponent last season (Denver). Lebron iced out AD after Game 1 to win his FMVP but we all know who the MVP of that 2020 Lakers squad was all year.

[SouBeachTalents]

False. Lebron wasn't the best player in last year's Playoffs, and he had the benefit of resting 4 months before a Playoff run and played a bunch of injured teams in that title run (Dame injury, Westbrook COVID + injury, Bam and Dragic injury).

Kobe was the best player against the Lakers' toughest opponents for the 3-Peat. Anthony Davis was the best player and the closer against the Lakers' toughest opponent last season (Denver). Lebron iced out AD after Game 1 to win his FMVP but we all know who the MVP of that 2020 Lakers squad was all year.
But he was clearly the best for his first 3, yet those all conveniently have an asterisk because his teammates hit one shot per playoff run :lol And he has a MUCH stronger argument for best player last year than Kobe does for any of his first 3 titles

And Kobe was not the Lakers best player against the Lakers toughest opponents, Shaq was better than him against '00 Portland and '02 Sacramento

[ImKobe]

But he was clearly the best for his first 3, yet those all conveniently have an asterisk because his teammates hit one shot per playoff run :lol And he has a MUCH stronger argument for best player last year than Kobe does for any of his first 3 titles

And Kobe was not the Lakers best player against the Lakers toughest opponents, Shaq was better than him against '00 Portland and '02 Sacramento

Kobe was the most important player in the Portland series when it came down to elimination by leading them in every category but steals & making every clutch play down the stretch, he also had a game-winning block against Sabonis in that series.

Kobe has more title runs as the best player than Lebron (4 to 3), which I've preached for years now. Kobe was the best player on his team in '01, '02, '09 and '10. Lebron obviously his first 2 titles in Miami and in Cleveland.

This is why MVPs aren't as valuable as some make them out to be. Tony Parker and Iggy won FMVPs, they were not the best players on their team. Nash and Giannis combined for 4 MVPs, they weren't the best player in the league in any of those years.

[StrongLurk]

Kobe stans honestly have it the worse for the modern stans. Clearly overshadowed by MJ and Lebron, but can't accept it.

[aj1987]

Kobe was the most important player in the Portland series when it came down to elimination by leading them in every category but steals & making every clutch play down the stretch, he also had a game-winning block against Sabonis in that series.

Kobe has more title runs as the best player than Lebron (4 to 3), which I've preached for years now. Kobe was the best player on his team in '01, '02, '09 and '10. Lebron obviously his first 2 titles in Miami and in Cleveland.

This is why MVPs aren't as valuable as some make them out to be. Tony Parker and Iggy won FMVPs, they were not the best players on their team. Nash and Giannis combined for 4 MVPs, they weren't the best player in the league in any of those years.

:roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:

Go jump off a cliff at this point, retard.

Also, considering the FACT that you're big on 4th Q's, Pau was a couple of tiers above Brick as a player in the '09 and '10 Finals.

Brick shots 30% and 29% in the '09 and '10 Finals respectively, FYI. :oldlol: