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theman93
06-15-2021, 03:37 PM
We know you love your longevity stats (ie Lebron being a better scorer than MJ because he has more playoff points), but we need to put that love to the test.


Was Dennis Johnson the better scorer than Allen Iverson?


https://i.ibb.co/YtfQ8dM/johnsoniverson.png

000
06-15-2021, 03:40 PM
Yes :rockon:

8Ball
06-15-2021, 03:41 PM
Shooter here.

LeBron is at 7500.

Where little minions like Allen Iverson and Dennis Johnson end up at the bottom are irrelevant.

LeBron is the greatest playoff scorer of all time.

Soon will take Kareem's unbreakable record.

000
06-15-2021, 03:42 PM
:cry:
:lol

Airupthere
06-15-2021, 03:43 PM
Absolutely :oldlol: You can clearly conclude who the more capable scorer is within a game based on their cumulative career points.

8Ball
06-15-2021, 03:47 PM
:lol

NBA & ABA Career Playoff Leaders and Records for Points

1. LeBron James 7631
2. Michael Jordan 5987
3. Kareem Abdul-Jabbar 5762
4. Kobe Bryant 5640

Jordan is #2. :rockon:

000
06-15-2021, 03:49 PM
:rant
:wtf:

8Ball
06-15-2021, 03:50 PM
For future reference purposes:

1. LeBron James 7631
2. Michael Jordan 5987
3. Kareem Abdul-Jabbar 5762
4. Kobe Bryant 5640


I consider this discussion settle debate.

8Ball
06-15-2021, 03:51 PM
:cry:


You alright there young kid?

000
06-15-2021, 03:53 PM
Parker over wade. Why not

theman93
06-15-2021, 03:55 PM
So that settle's it.

Shooter does in fact believe Dennis Johnson is the better scorer than Allen Iverson.

Good discussion and we now have some good information moving forward. Feel free to lock this one up mods thank you

000
06-15-2021, 03:56 PM
So that settle's it.

Shooter does in fact believe Dennis Johnson is the better scorer than Allen Iverson.

Good discussion and we now have some good information moving forward. Feel free to lock this one up mods thank you

:applause:

RogueBorg
06-15-2021, 04:04 PM
So that settle's it.

Shooter does in fact believe Dennis Johnson is the better scorer than Allen Iverson.

Good discussion and we now have some good information moving forward. Feel free to lock this one up mods thank you

Got 'em

Brilliantly done :applause:

RogueBorg
06-15-2021, 04:06 PM
Shooter here.

LeBron is at 7500.

Where little minions like Allen Iverson and Dennis Johnson end up at the bottom are irrelevant.

LeBron is the greatest playoff scorer of all time.

Soon will take Kareem's unbreakable record.

You got Kobayashi Maru'd, chewed up and spit out.

000
06-15-2021, 04:09 PM
We know you love your longevity stats (ie Lebron being a better scorer than MJ because he has more playoff points), but we need to put that love to the test.


Was Dennis Johnson the better scorer than Allen Iverson?


https://i.ibb.co/YtfQ8dM/johnsoniverson.png
Decimation

theman93
06-15-2021, 04:09 PM
:applause:



Got 'em

Brilliantly done :applause:

https://media1.tenor.com/images/55b73661c82b37b320642941b3c0bde3/tenor.gif?itemid=15990597

Shooter
06-15-2021, 04:22 PM
Shooter here.

LeBron is at 7500.

Where little minions like Allen Iverson and Dennis Johnson end up at the bottom are irrelevant.

LeBron is the greatest playoff scorer of all time.

Soon will take Kareem's unbreakable record.

Shooter
06-15-2021, 04:22 PM
NBA & ABA Career Playoff Leaders and Records for Points

1. LeBron James 7631
2. Michael Jordan 5987
3. Kareem Abdul-Jabbar 5762
4. Kobe Bryant 5640

Jordan is #2. :rockon:

We gottem spinnin

:lol

:hammertime:

000
06-15-2021, 04:23 PM
:lebroncry:

:(

outofstomach
06-15-2021, 04:24 PM
We know you love your longevity stats (ie Lebron being a better scorer than MJ because he has more playoff points), but we need to put that love to the test.


Was Dennis Johnson the better scorer than Allen Iverson?


https://i.ibb.co/YtfQ8dM/johnsoniverson.png

guys???

Hey Yo
06-15-2021, 04:25 PM
Did Iverson voluntarily take 2yr break in his prime and quit a 2nd time when he could have still played, that held is playoff scoring idle?? If not, bad example.

Jordan chose to quit. Nobodies fault but his that others have more postseason points.

000
06-15-2021, 04:29 PM
Did Iverson voluntarily take 2yr break in his prime and quit a 2nd time when he could have still played, that held is playoff scoring idle?? If not, bad example.

Jordan chose to quit. Nobodies fault but his that others have more postseason points.
Great point. Jordan chose not to pad his stats, whereas lebron didnt choose to take 6 finals Ls, one of them to jason terry - his adversaries simply forced themselves on him:banana:

Hey Yo
06-15-2021, 04:40 PM
Great point.
I see your white flag with the giant L on it.

Airupthere
06-15-2021, 04:43 PM
Great point. Jordan chose not to pad his stats, whereas lebron didnt choose to take 6 finals Ls, one of them to jason terry - his adversaries simply forced themselves on him:banana:

"Larry Bird had 30 points, 12 rebounds, 10 assists and 9 steals for the Celtics to come within one steal of recording a quadruple-double as Boston beat the Utah Jazz, 110-94, at Salt Lake City.

But, when informed of his opportunity, Bird chose not to go back into the game after being taken out in the third quarter. He totaled 33 minutes.


Jones went to the end of the bench, knelt in front of Bird and delivered this information.

Bird shook his head sideways, left his warmups on, and never reentered a game the Celtics ended up winning easily.

In the visitors locker room, reporters surrounded Bird, asking why he didn’t go back in the game.

He said he didn’t see the point. The game was already in hand. Why rub it in? I distinctly remember him saying, “That’s not why I play.” Apparently, numbers didn’t mean that much to him"


Meanwhile, Lebron is taking technical foul free throws in a blowout loss to the suns in the playoffs. LOL. Talk about statpadding.

000
06-15-2021, 04:46 PM
"Larry Bird had 30 points, 12 rebounds, 10 assists and 9 steals for the Celtics to come within one steal of recording a quadruple-double as Boston beat the Utah Jazz, 110-94, at Salt Lake City.

But, when informed of his opportunity, Bird chose not to go back into the game after being taken out in the third quarter. He totaled 33 minutes.


Jones went to the end of the bench, knelt in front of Bird and delivered this information.

Bird shook his head sideways, left his warmups on, and never reentered a game the Celtics ended up winning easily.

In the visitors locker room, reporters surrounded Bird, asking why he didn’t go back in the game.

He said he didn’t see the point. The game was already in hand. Why rub it in? I distinctly remember him saying, “That’s not why I play.” Apparently, numbers didn’t mean that much to him"


Meanwhile, Lebron is taking technical foul free throws in a blowout loss to the suns in the playoffs. LOL. Talk about statpadding.
"That's your best free throw shooter?"


:rant
:cry::cry::cry:
Understandable, have a great day

8Ball
06-15-2021, 04:50 PM
We gottem spinnin

:lol

:hammertime:

Shooter they making threads about you.

Jordan being 2nd in all time playoff points is not sitting well.

Should we tell them again?

Shooter
06-15-2021, 04:51 PM
Don't like your lower numbers, play more. Win more. Advanced more frequently. Multiple 1st round exits and minimal Final apperances do have their consequences. Sorry MJ.

When fans talk about most touchdowns, home runs or goals scored do we do it on a per-game basis? No, because that's silly. Brady is the playoff goat. Not a soul says "But hE pLaYed mOre gAmeS dOe?!!"

No one says "But how many games did Hank Aaron play doe?! But how many tournaments did Tiger play in?!"

Why would you penalize a player for having a more dominant career over a longer period of time? Ez answer: You don't.

7,631 > 5,987

000
06-15-2021, 04:51 PM
Shooter they making threads about you.

Jordan being 2nd in all time playoff points is not sitting well.

Should we tell them again?
Dennis johnson better than allen iverson. Y or N?

Shooter
06-15-2021, 04:52 PM
Shooter they making threads about you.

Jordan being 2nd in all time playoff points is not sitting well.

Should we tell them again?

These bois are HURTING :lol :roll:

Gottem all shook. Dey know

000
06-15-2021, 04:53 PM
Don't like your lower numbers, play more. Win more. Advanced more frquently. Multiple 1st round exits and minimal Final apperances do have their consequences. Sorry MJ.

When fans talk about most touchdowns, home runs or goals scored do we do it on a per-game basis? No, because that's silly. Brady is the playoff goat. Not a soul says "But hE pLaYed mOre gAmeS dOe?!!"

No one says "But how many games did Hank Aaron play doe?! But how many tournaments did Tiger play in?!"

Why would you penalize a player for having a more dominant career over a longer period of time? Ez answer: You don't.

7,631 > 5,987
Agree

Lebron shouldnt have blown so many championships by getting beaten by jason terry or locked down by iggy, who ended up winning fvmp LOL

Then his ring numbers would be higher

Shooter
06-15-2021, 04:53 PM
Dennis johnson better than allen iverson. Y or N?

Like what are we supposed to say about MJ only making 6 Finals and getting swept 3x in the 1st round?

Sorry Mikey? :confusedshrug:

000
06-15-2021, 04:54 PM
Like what are we supposed to say about MJ only making 6 Finals and getting swept 3x in the 1st round?

Sorry Mikey? :confusedshrug:
Dennis johnson better than allen iverson. Y or N?

Shooter
06-15-2021, 05:06 PM
Dennis johnson better than allen iverson. Y or N?

Sorry you werent good enough for more Finals Mikey

:confusedshrug:

Better?

000
06-15-2021, 05:09 PM
Sorry you werent good enough for more Finals Mikey

:confusedshrug:

Better?

Dennis johnson better than allen iverson. Y or N?

Spurs m8
06-15-2021, 05:38 PM
Agree

Lebron shouldnt have blown so many championships by getting beaten by jason terry or locked down by iggy, who ended up winning fvmp LOL

Then his ring numbers would be higher

Dennis Johnson was a better scorer than IA

LeBron also has the MOST turnovers and missed shots in playoff HISTORY

000
06-15-2021, 05:47 PM
LeBron also has the MOST turnovers and missed shots in playoff HISTORY
:biggums:

HBK_Kliq_2
06-15-2021, 05:51 PM
Tony parker also has more total playoff points then larry bird. Retard argument

Spurs m8
06-15-2021, 05:54 PM
Tony parker also has more total playoff points then larry bird. Retard argument

That settles it.

Longevity is the most accurate measure of overall ability

RogueBorg
06-15-2021, 06:17 PM
Tony parker also has more total playoff points then larry bird. Retard argument

Tony Parker must be a better scorer than Wilt Chamberlain...retard logic.

theman93
06-15-2021, 06:21 PM
That settles it.

Longevity is the most accurate measure of overall ability

So since L-86ron’s the all-time playoff leader in missed shots and turnovers he’s the worst shooter and most turnover prone player in NBA history?

I concur.

Spurs m8
06-15-2021, 06:26 PM
So since L-86ron’s the all-time playoff leader in missed shots and turnovers he’s the worst shooter and most turnover prone player in NBA history?

I concur.

That's shooters stance on it, yes.

Shooter
06-15-2021, 06:30 PM
Tony Parker must be a better scorer than Wilt Chamberlain...retard logic.

The bottom scraps dont matter. Top 5 is cemented tho

LeBron is at 7500.

Where little minions like Allen Iverson and Dennis Johnson end up at the bottom are irrelevant.

LeBron is the greatest playoff scorer of all time.

Soon will take Kareem's unbreakable record

theman93
06-15-2021, 06:34 PM
Shooter is a copy/paste bot confirmed.

Spurs m8
06-15-2021, 06:34 PM
The bottom scraps dont matter. Top 5 is cemented tho

LeBron is at 7500.

Where little minions like Allen Iverson and Dennis Johnson end up at the bottom are irrelevant.

LeBron is the greatest playoff scorer of all time.

Soon will take Kareem's unbreakable record

What about all time most missed shots and turnovers?

They need to be taken into account as well, if top longevity stats matter so much.

There's never any consistency with you..its all cherry picking What you like and ignoring what you don't.

Shooter
06-15-2021, 06:40 PM
Shooter is a copy/paste bot confirmed.

I'm just waiting for an intellectual response.

Shooter
06-15-2021, 06:41 PM
What about all time most missed shots and turnovers?

They need to be taken into account as well, if top longevity stats matter so much.

There's never any consistency with you..its all cherry picking What you like and ignoring what you don't.

Yes..He took a lot of shots. He also made the most playoff FG all time.

Are you dumb? :lol

theman93
06-15-2021, 06:41 PM
I'm just waiting for an intellectual response.

Dennis johnson better scorer than allen iverson. Y or N

Shooter
06-15-2021, 06:42 PM
Dennis johnson better scorer than allen iverson. Y or N

So who's the bot BulletTooth? SnaggleTooth :lol

theman93
06-15-2021, 06:46 PM
So who's the bot BulletTooth? SnaggleTooth :lol

I’m taking a page out of your book. Now answer the question:

Dennis johnson better scorer than allen iverson. Y or N?

Axe
06-15-2021, 06:48 PM
Poor coach

kawhileonard2
05-20-2022, 12:36 AM
Need an answer on each thread below.

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?489748-When-KD-and-Lebron-go-head-to-head
http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?t=459570

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?495113-Vassilis-Spanoulis-Giannis-Antetokounmpo-s-And-Luka-Doncic-s-Idol-Retired
https://www.espn.com/olympics/wbc2006/news/story?id=2568543

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?495940-Lebron-with-Shaq-2nd-round-exit-Giannis-with-Middleton-a-Title

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?495955-Giannis-just-blasted-those-who-join-super-teams-in-post-conference-interview

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?493982-Devin-Booker-Vs-Lebron-James-who-is-better-currently

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?496095-Devin-Booker-put-up-47-his-playoff-career-high-on-Lebron

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?496253-Lebron-won-2-bronze-medals-for-the-United-States-of-America-How

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?496256-Lebron-with-Tim-Duncan-Bronze-Medal-in-Olympics-Vince-with-KG-Gold-Medal

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?496255-Lebron-with-Carlos-Boozer-No-Playoffs-Deron-Williams-with-Carlos-Boozer-WCF

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?496549-Lebron-stacking-the-deck-in-2022-because-he-is-afraid-of-Devin-Booker

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?492941-1-Title-in-11-Years-for-the-Franchise-that-you-originally-played-for


http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?496831-times-when-each-top-10-player-all-time-Lost-when-they-were-expected-to-win

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?486706-Rob-Parker-LeBron-is-the-FFOAT

Record against teams with an SRS of 5.0 or higher.
http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?497187-Record-against-teams-with-an-SRS-of-5-0-or-higher

Not 3, not 4, 5, 6, 7, 8 or Playoff Mode Activated or A Storm is Coming
http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?494319-Not-3-not-4-5-6-7-8-or-Playoff-Mode-Activated-or-A-Storm-is-Coming/page2


Playoff Mode: ACTIVATED
http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?473762-Playoff-Mode-ACTIVATED

Lowest Scoring Supporting Cast Overall Playoffs
http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?463869-Lowest-Scoring-Supporting-Cast-Overall-Playoffs/page3


http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?499837-Greatest-floor-raise-of-all-time/page2
Lebron played with Shaq who won league mvp and 3 finals mvp's and lost in round 2. Lebron played with Peak Duncan who had won 2 league mvp's and 3 finals mvp's and won bronze medal. Lebron played with Peak Wade who won finals mvp and got outplayed by Jason Terry. Lebron played with Derrick Rose who won mvp under age 30 which was the same as Kevin Durant who won mvp under 30 while both were on Golden State and Cleveland. Lebron played with mulitple PER leaders as well and now Russell Westbrook a league mvp winner and more triple doubles than Oscar Robertson. Yet despite all of that Lebron lost with all of them.


Jarrett Allen vs Gobert and Jarrett Allen vs Lebron
http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?499786-Jarrett-Allen-vs-Gobert-and-Jarrett-Allen-vs-Lebron

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?500431-Lakers-were-1-in-Preseason-Odds-in-2021-and-Suns-were-14
Was #1 in Preseason odds and lost to a 14th seed in odds

https://www.basketball-reference.com/leagues/NBA_2021_preseason_odds.html

And Devin Booker walked them down in the playoffs with Devin outplaying Lebron. :confusedshrug:


http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?500416-Why-did-Pelinka-surround-Lebron-with-a-bullshit-roster
He has peak Anthony Davis, the best player on the 2020 squad and the reason the Lakers did anything as the 2019 Lakers missed the playoffs and 2021 Lakers lost in round 1 when AD wasn't around. He has Prime Melo who won a scoring title and all time leader in scoring for the Olympics. He has Dwight Howard a 3x DPOY and a guy who beat Lebron without HCA. He has Westbrook who is the modern day Oscar Robertson and also won league mvp along with average a Triple Double 4 years in a row. He also has Rondo who is a hall of famer.

Why didn't he play it against Dwight Howard in 2009 when Dwight was dominating http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?459570-How-is-it-even-possible-to-lose-to-Dwight-Howard-in-a-series-with-HCA/page10? Or against Duncan or KG or Dirk? Why did he run away from KD a guy at his position?
http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?489748-When-KD-and-Lebron-go-head-to-head

Why didn't he do **** against Booker in the playoffs as well?

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?496095-Devin-Booker-put-up-47-his-playoff-career-high-on-Lebron


Devin Booker broke Lebron
http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?500264-Devin-Booker-broke-Lebron&p=14500724


http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?503966-3ball-why-can-LeBron-win-with-Irving-but-KD-can-t&p=14584482#post14584482

Lebron won bronze medal twice and lost with HCA 3x. Jordan only won gold medal and never lost with HCA. Prove me wrong!

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?500440-Russell-Westbrook-leading-the-league-in-Triple-Doubles-Thus-far-in-2022-Season
https://www.statmuse.com/nba/ask/triple-double-leaders-2021-2022-stats

Expected Championships Won and Titles Over Expected
http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?500379-Expected-Championships-Won-and-Titles-Over-Expected/page3&p=14503600


How did LeBron go 10-16 vs Kawhi? 7-12 vs Shaq? 17-23 vs Curry?
http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?500334-How-did-LeBron-go-10-16-vs-Kawhi-7-12-vs-Shaq-17-23-vs-Curry

Top 50 All-Time List - Shot Clock Era = #1
http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?497028-Top-50-All-Time-List-Shot-Clock-Era-1&p=14426360&viewfull=1#post14426360


Difference between Lebron and Tmac?
http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?494830-Difference-between-Lebron-and-Tmac
Both 0-2 with HCA against 50+ win teams until they joined forces with someone who won as the man. Also won bronze medals.

Tmac lost to Utah in 2007 while Lebron was losing to a career loser in Dwight Howard and also Carlos Arroyo in the Olympics with peak Tim Duncan on his squad despite playing more minutes than Hakeem even played on the 1996 Olympic team.



LeBron's message that makes the NBA shake: A storm is coming
http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?500734-LeBron-s-message-that-makes-the-NBA-shake-A-storm-is-coming

https://www.marca.com/en/more-sports/2021/04/09/6070b833ca47418e588b45e9.html


http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?480740-Vasileios-Spanoulis-gt-gt-gt-Lebron-James
Outplayed Lebron in FIBA and caused America to get another bronze medal and then Greece got spanked in Gold medal final.:oldlol:

http://archive.fiba.com/pages/eng/fa/game/p/gid/A/grid/75/rid/5152/sid/3507/_/2006_FIBA_World_Championship/statistic.html


First Time Ever a team with 2 guys who won MVP missed the playoffs
http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?503543-First-Time-Ever-a-team-with-2-guys-who-won-MVP-missed-the-playoffs


http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?503981-Why-does-Lebron-have-2-bronze-medals-while-KD-only-has-gold-medals&p=14584371#post14584371

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