Players that lost to same team 3 years in a row? Jordan, DeRozan, who else?

[Shooter]

Loser: Derozan
Winner: Cleveland Cavaliers
3 straight years: 2016, 2017, 2018


Loser: Jordan
Winner: Detroit Pistons
3 straight years: 1988, 1989, 1990

Who else has lost to the same team 3 years in a row?

-Derozan
-Jordan

[And1AllDay]

dont forget cleveland cavs won over gilbert arenas wizards 3 yrs straight

[3ball]

dont forget cleveland cavs won over gilbert arenas wizards 3 yrs straight


That was after lebron had 3 years to build his team into a high-seeded favorite before entering the playoffs in 06' (including stealing Arenas sidekick)

Lebron has been a non-competitor his whole career (stealing the opposition's best players and teaming up with opponents)

[And1AllDay]

That was after lebron had 3 years to build his team into a high-seeded favorite before entering the playoffs in 06' (including stealing Arenas sidekick)

Lebron has been a non-competitor his whole career (stealing the opposition's best players and teaming up with opponents)

Who else has lost to the same team 3 years in a row?

-Derozan
-Jordan

:oldlol::oldlol:

more similar then you think :oldlol:

[Shooter]

Who else has lost to the same team 3 years in a row?

-Derozan
-Jordan

:oldlol::oldlol:

more similar then you think :oldlol:

Bingo :lol

These bois are SHOOK n SILENT

Just how I like it :pimp:

[Spurs m8]

That was after lebron had 3 years to build his team into a high-seeded favorite before entering the playoffs in 06' (including stealing Arenas sidekick)

Lebron has been a non-competitor his whole career (stealing the opposition's best players and teaming up with opponents)

This.

Keep melting OP...its hilarious hahhaha

[Shooter]

This.

Keep melting OP...its hilarious hahhaha

Head down Kawhi m8 / Derozan m8

[And1AllDay]

ne1 else?

[HBK_Kliq_2]

Luka if he loses to Kawhi again next year

[8Ball]

Loser: Derozan
Winner: Cleveland Cavaliers
3 straight years: 2016, 2017, 2018


Loser: Jordan
Winner: Detroit Pistons
3 straight years: 1988, 1989, 1990

Who else has lost to the same team 3 years in a row?

-Derozan
-Jordan

Jerry West.

Demar Derozan.
Jerry West
Jordan

A good list.

[Shooter]

Jerry West.

Demar Derozan.
Jerry West
Jordan

A good list.

Very good list

Wasn't Jerry 1-9 as well?

[TheCorporation]

Loser: Derozan
Winner: Cleveland Cavaliers
3 straight years: 2016, 2017, 2018


Loser: Jordan
Winner: Detroit Pistons
3 straight years: 1988, 1989, 1990

Who else has lost to the same team 3 years in a row?

-Derozan
-Jordan

Damn...BRING SHOOTER BACK

[Full Court]

So let's see....Baby Jordan lost to a dynasty.

Lebron lost to the Spurs, Detroit, the Mavericks, the Warriors (twice), the Suns, and I know I'm forgetting a few.

[Hey Yo]

So let's see....Baby Jordan lost to a dynasty.

Lebron lost to the Spurs, Detroit, the Mavericks, the Warriors (twice), the Suns, and I know I'm forgetting a few.

Detroit a dynasty?

So Miami was a dynasty from 2011-2014, correct?

[kawhileonard2]

These are a few.


http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?489748-When-KD-and-Lebron-go-head-to-head
http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?t=459570

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?495113-Vassilis-Spanoulis-Giannis-Antetokounmpo-s-And-Luka-Doncic-s-Idol-Retired
https://www.espn.com/olympics/wbc2006/news/story?id=2568543

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?495940-Lebron-with-Shaq-2nd-round-exit-Giannis-with-Middleton-a-Title

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?495955-Giannis-just-blasted-those-who-join-super-teams-in-post-conference-interview

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?493982-Devin-Booker-Vs-Lebron-James-who-is-better-currently

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?496095-Devin-Booker-put-up-47-his-playoff-career-high-on-Lebron

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?496253-Lebron-won-2-bronze-medals-for-the-United-States-of-America-How

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?496256-Lebron-with-Tim-Duncan-Bronze-Medal-in-Olympics-Vince-with-KG-Gold-Medal

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?496255-Lebron-with-Carlos-Boozer-No-Playoffs-Deron-Williams-with-Carlos-Boozer-WCF

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?496549-Lebron-stacking-the-deck-in-2022-because-he-is-afraid-of-Devin-Booker

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?492941-1-Title-in-11-Years-for-the-Franchise-that-you-originally-played-for


http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?496831-times-when-each-top-10-player-all-time-Lost-when-they-were-expected-to-win

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?486706-Rob-Parker-LeBron-is-the-FFOAT

Record against teams with an SRS of 5.0 or higher.
http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?497187-Record-against-teams-with-an-SRS-of-5-0-or-higher



Not 3, not 4, 5, 6, 7, 8 or Playoff Mode Activated or A Storm is Coming
http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?494319-Not-3-not-4-5-6-7-8-or-Playoff-Mode-Activated-or-A-Storm-is-Coming/page2


Playoff Mode: ACTIVATED
http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?473762-Playoff-Mode-ACTIVATED



Lowest Scoring Supporting Cast Overall Playoffs
http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?463869-Lowest-Scoring-Supporting-Cast-Overall-Playoffs/page3


http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?499837-Greatest-floor-raise-of-all-time/page2
Lebron played with Shaq who won league mvp and 3 finals mvp's and lost in round 2. Lebron played with Peak Duncan who had won 2 league mvp's and 3 finals mvp's and won bronze medal. Lebron played with Peak Wade who won finals mvp and got outplayed by Jason Terry. Lebron played with Derrick Rose who won mvp under age 30 which was the same as Kevin Durant who won mvp under 30 while both were on Golden State and Cleveland. Lebron played with mulitple PER leaders as well and now Russell Westbrook a league mvp winner and more triple doubles than Oscar Robertson. Yet despite all of that Lebron lost with all of them.


Jarrett Allen vs Gobert and Jarrett Allen vs Lebron
http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?499786-Jarrett-Allen-vs-Gobert-and-Jarrett-Allen-vs-Lebron



http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?500431-Lakers-were-1-in-Preseason-Odds-in-2021-and-Suns-were-14
Was #1 in Preseason odds and lost to a 14th seed in odds

https://www.basketball-reference.com/leagues/NBA_2021_preseason_odds.html

And Devin Booker walked them down in the playoffs with Devin outplaying Lebron. :confusedshrug:



http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?500416-Why-did-Pelinka-surround-Lebron-with-a-bullshit-roster
He has peak Anthony Davis, the best player on the 2020 squad and the reason the Lakers did anything as the 2019 Lakers missed the playoffs and 2021 Lakers lost in round 1 when AD wasn't around. He has Prime Melo who won a scoring title and all time leader in scoring for the Olympics. He has Dwight Howard a 3x DPOY and a guy who beat Lebron without HCA. He has Westbrook who is the modern day Oscar Robertson and also won league mvp along with average a Triple Double 4 years in a row. He also has Rondo who is a hall of famer.





Why didn't he play it against Dwight Howard in 2009 when Dwight was dominating http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?459570-How-is-it-even-possible-to-lose-to-Dwight-Howard-in-a-series-with-HCA/page10? Or against Duncan or KG or Dirk? Why did he run away from KD a guy at his position?
http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?489748-When-KD-and-Lebron-go-head-to-head

Why didn't he do **** against Booker in the playoffs as well?

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?496095-Devin-Booker-put-up-47-his-playoff-career-high-on-Lebron


Devin Booker broke Lebron
http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?500264-Devin-Booker-broke-Lebron&p=14500724




http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?500440-Russell-Westbrook-leading-the-league-in-Triple-Doubles-Thus-far-in-2022-Season
https://www.statmuse.com/nba/ask/triple-double-leaders-2021-2022-stats



Expected Championships Won and Titles Over Expected
http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?500379-Expected-Championships-Won-and-Titles-Over-Expected/page3&p=14503600



Top 50 All-Time List - Shot Clock Era = #1
http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?497028-Top-50-All-Time-List-Shot-Clock-Era-1&p=14426360&viewfull=1#post14426360

[Spurs m8]

This guy spends his life and NYE, thinking of random things to try and discredit Jordan

Meanwhile he can't move the needle lmao

Hating on Jordon won't change the fact ya boy isn't even in the GOAT discussion

[TheCorporation]

Loser: Derozan
Winner: Cleveland Cavaliers
3 straight years: 2016, 2017, 2018


Loser: Jordan
Winner: Detroit Pistons
3 straight years: 1988, 1989, 1990

Who else has lost to the same team 3 years in a row?

-Derozan
-Jordan

Anyone?

[kawhileonard2]

These are a few.


http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?489748-When-KD-and-Lebron-go-head-to-head
http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?t=459570

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?495113-Vassilis-Spanoulis-Giannis-Antetokounmpo-s-And-Luka-Doncic-s-Idol-Retired
https://www.espn.com/olympics/wbc2006/news/story?id=2568543

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?495940-Lebron-with-Shaq-2nd-round-exit-Giannis-with-Middleton-a-Title

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?495955-Giannis-just-blasted-those-who-join-super-teams-in-post-conference-interview

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?493982-Devin-Booker-Vs-Lebron-James-who-is-better-currently

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?496095-Devin-Booker-put-up-47-his-playoff-career-high-on-Lebron

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?496253-Lebron-won-2-bronze-medals-for-the-United-States-of-America-How

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?496256-Lebron-with-Tim-Duncan-Bronze-Medal-in-Olympics-Vince-with-KG-Gold-Medal

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?496255-Lebron-with-Carlos-Boozer-No-Playoffs-Deron-Williams-with-Carlos-Boozer-WCF

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?496549-Lebron-stacking-the-deck-in-2022-because-he-is-afraid-of-Devin-Booker

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?492941-1-Title-in-11-Years-for-the-Franchise-that-you-originally-played-for


http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?496831-times-when-each-top-10-player-all-time-Lost-when-they-were-expected-to-win

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?486706-Rob-Parker-LeBron-is-the-FFOAT

Record against teams with an SRS of 5.0 or higher.
http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?497187-Record-against-teams-with-an-SRS-of-5-0-or-higher



Not 3, not 4, 5, 6, 7, 8 or Playoff Mode Activated or A Storm is Coming
http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?494319-Not-3-not-4-5-6-7-8-or-Playoff-Mode-Activated-or-A-Storm-is-Coming/page2


Playoff Mode: ACTIVATED
http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?473762-Playoff-Mode-ACTIVATED



Lowest Scoring Supporting Cast Overall Playoffs
http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?463869-Lowest-Scoring-Supporting-Cast-Overall-Playoffs/page3


http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?499837-Greatest-floor-raise-of-all-time/page2
Lebron played with Shaq who won league mvp and 3 finals mvp's and lost in round 2. Lebron played with Peak Duncan who had won 2 league mvp's and 3 finals mvp's and won bronze medal. Lebron played with Peak Wade who won finals mvp and got outplayed by Jason Terry. Lebron played with Derrick Rose who won mvp under age 30 which was the same as Kevin Durant who won mvp under 30 while both were on Golden State and Cleveland. Lebron played with mulitple PER leaders as well and now Russell Westbrook a league mvp winner and more triple doubles than Oscar Robertson. Yet despite all of that Lebron lost with all of them.


Jarrett Allen vs Gobert and Jarrett Allen vs Lebron
http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?499786-Jarrett-Allen-vs-Gobert-and-Jarrett-Allen-vs-Lebron



http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?500431-Lakers-were-1-in-Preseason-Odds-in-2021-and-Suns-were-14
Was #1 in Preseason odds and lost to a 14th seed in odds

https://www.basketball-reference.com/leagues/NBA_2021_preseason_odds.html

And Devin Booker walked them down in the playoffs with Devin outplaying Lebron. :confusedshrug:



http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?500416-Why-did-Pelinka-surround-Lebron-with-a-bullshit-roster
He has peak Anthony Davis, the best player on the 2020 squad and the reason the Lakers did anything as the 2019 Lakers missed the playoffs and 2021 Lakers lost in round 1 when AD wasn't around. He has Prime Melo who won a scoring title and all time leader in scoring for the Olympics. He has Dwight Howard a 3x DPOY and a guy who beat Lebron without HCA. He has Westbrook who is the modern day Oscar Robertson and also won league mvp along with average a Triple Double 4 years in a row. He also has Rondo who is a hall of famer.





Why didn't he play it against Dwight Howard in 2009 when Dwight was dominating http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?459570-How-is-it-even-possible-to-lose-to-Dwight-Howard-in-a-series-with-HCA/page10? Or against Duncan or KG or Dirk? Why did he run away from KD a guy at his position?
http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?489748-When-KD-and-Lebron-go-head-to-head

Why didn't he do **** against Booker in the playoffs as well?

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?496095-Devin-Booker-put-up-47-his-playoff-career-high-on-Lebron


Devin Booker broke Lebron
http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?500264-Devin-Booker-broke-Lebron&p=14500724




http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?500440-Russell-Westbrook-leading-the-league-in-Triple-Doubles-Thus-far-in-2022-Season
https://www.statmuse.com/nba/ask/triple-double-leaders-2021-2022-stats



Expected Championships Won and Titles Over Expected
http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?500379-Expected-Championships-Won-and-Titles-Over-Expected/page3&p=14503600



Top 50 All-Time List - Shot Clock Era = #1
http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?497028-Top-50-All-Time-List-Shot-Clock-Era-1&p=14426360&viewfull=1#post14426360

Guys!

[FultzNationRISE]

This guy spends his life and NYE, thinking of random things to try and discredit Jordan

Meanwhile he can't move the needle lmao

Hating on Jordon won't change the fact ya boy isn't even in the GOAT discussion


Can you just try to ****ing stay on topic please???

[Full Court]

Detroit a dynasty?

So Miami was a dynasty from 2011-2014, correct?

Not in 2011 they weren't :roll:

[Hey Yo]

Not in 2011 they weren't :roll:

Neither was Detroit in 1988.

So, according to you, winning 2 titles in a row is a dynasty.

[ELITEpower23]

Neither was Detroit in 1988.

So, according to you, winning 2 titles in a row is a dynasty.

Like clockwork Hey Yo got these bois on skates :oldlol:

[Full Court]

Neither was Detroit in 1988.

So, according to you, winning 2 titles in a row is a dynasty.

Ok, and?

You should be grateful that I'm giving you the opportunity to declare a dynasty for your princess. I mean, it's not like he ever one three in a row.

[ELITEpower23]

Back on track. Who's next to lose to the same team 3 years in a row?

1. Jordan to Pistons
2. Demar to Cavaliers
3. ???

[1987_Lakers]

Neither was Detroit in 1988.

So, according to you, winning 2 titles in a row is a dynasty.

Full court slaughtered again. Dude isn't very bright.

[Full Court]

Full court slaughtered again. Dude isn't very bright.

Maybe not, but compared to you Lebronies I'm freaking genius level.

[Bawkish]

thread is so arbitrary

i could start a thread like "Players who got swept twice in the Finals" or "Players who had the most lopsided loss in Finals history" but what's the point

[1987_Lakers]

Maybe not, but compared to you Lebronies I'm freaking genius level.

So genius that you didn't even respond to the following post, just packed up and left.


Holy shit, you're a dense retard. The simple fact that you think players who are ATG passers AND scorers having a bit more TOV's is a bad thing (especially when the TOV to Assist ratio is not really that bad), proves how low IQ of a poster you are. Stick to spamming your troll posts and leave the basketball discussion to us.


Magic Johnson averaged 3.9 TOV's a game for his career. He must've ran pretty terrible and sloppy offenses, right? Dude must've been a terrible offensive player. Isaiah Thomas was at 3.8 TOV's per game. Heck, KD and Bird are at 3.1 per game (only 0.4 fewer than LeBron a game). Just because FACTS hurt your feelings, doesn't make them meaningless, kiddo.


LeBron is scoring nearly 9 points more than WB as well, dipshit. I doubt you know this, since you have the basketball (and general) intelligence of a rock, but offensive fouls count as TOV's and lost dribbles or if the ball is stolen from you while trying to score, it counts as a TOV as well.

WB is averaging 1.5 more APG and 1.1 more TOV/G than LeBron, while averaging 8.3 FEWER points than LeBron.

With all that being said, if you actually WATCH the games, you'd know that LeBron has 1-2 TOV's credited to him because players can't handle his passes. There were two of those this previous game as well. LeBron makes a prefect pass, the Laker player can't handle the pass and it goes out of bounds off of his fingers and LeBron gets the TOV. Those were good passes and still LeBron gets credited with the TOV.

I know this is hard for you to grasp, but if you still don't understand it, I definitely can't dumb it down any further. A 4 year old with downs should be able to understand all that.

Your response...


You have an abnormally undersized brain. Keep on believing in your turnover to assist ratio. I'm not going to waste time trying to explain it to you any more. You clearly are incapable of understanding simple things.

Weak :oldlol:

[Full Court]

So genius that you didn't even respond the following post, just packed up and left.




:oldlol:

Actually I did respond. You should do your research before you make dumb posts.

And to be fair, aj1987 is one of the few people on here who are even dumber than you.

[ELITEpower23]

thread is so arbitrary

i could start a thread like "Players who got swept twice in the Finals" or "Players who had the most lopsided loss in Finals history" but what's the point

3 straight years is a bit much, yes?

[Hey Yo]

Ok, and?

You should be grateful that I'm giving you the opportunity to declare a dynasty for your princess. I mean, it's not like he ever one three in a row.

You should feel dumb for thinking B2B titles = a dynasty.

Take the L, chico and move on.

[Full Court]

So genius that you didn't even respond to the following post, just packed up and left.



Your response...



Weak :oldlol:

And since good ole aj couldn't answer me, maybe you can try. If Westbrook is such a terrible turnover machine, and since assist to turnover ratio is such a great metric for looking at it, how do you account for Lebron's and Westbrook's assist-to-turnover ratio being nearly identical?

Is a) Westbrook being unfairly criticized? or b) Lebron just as sloppy of a turnover machine as Westbrook, or c) assist-to-turnover ratio is a completely meaningless stat?

Think carefully before you answer.

[SATAN]

Actually I did respond. You should do your research before you make dumb posts.

And to be fair, aj1987 is one of the few people on here who are even dumber than you.

aj1987 isn't dumb. You might disagree with him but he isn't dumb.

[1987_Lakers]

So let's see....Baby Jordan lost to a dynasty.

Lebron lost to the Spurs, Detroit, the Mavericks, the Warriors (twice), the Suns, and I know I'm forgetting a few.


Detroit a dynasty?

So Miami was a dynasty from 2011-2014, correct?


Not in 2011 they weren't :roll:


Neither was Detroit in 1988.

So, according to you, winning 2 titles in a row is a dynasty.

Like how do you even fall for that?

:roll:

[Full Court]

aj1987 isn't dumb. You might disagree with him but he isn't dumb.

When you can't follow simple trains of logic, which aj1987 severely struggles with, that makes him dumb in my book. But hey, everyone has their own opinion.

[1987_Lakers]

And since good ole aj couldn't answer me, maybe you can try. If Westbrook is such a terrible turnover machine, and since assist to turnover ratio is such a great metric for looking at it, how do you account for Lebron's and Westbrook's assist-to-turnover ratio being nearly identical?

Is a) Westbrook being unfairly criticized? or b) Lebron just as sloppy of a turnover machine as Westbrook, or c) assist-to-turnover ratio is a completely meaningless stat?

Think carefully before you answer.

That's not true at all, since 2017 or so LeBron has averaged 9 apg & 4 topg while Westbrick has averaged 10 apg & 5 topg. Try again.

[Full Court]

That's not true at all, since 2017 or so LeBron has averaged 9 apg & 4 topg while Westbrick has averaged 10 apg & 5 topg. Try again.

I'm talking about THIS YEAR. The year Lebron and Westbrook are playing together. The year that Westbrook is being scapegoated for the Lakers massive underachievement. Let's try this again.

If Westbrook is such a terrible turnover machine, and since assist to turnover ratio is such a great metric for looking at it, how do you account for Lebron's and Westbrook's assist-to-turnover ratio being nearly identical?

Is a) Westbrook being unfairly criticized? or b) Lebron just as sloppy of a turnover machine as Westbrook, or c) assist-to-turnover ratio is a completely meaningless stat?

Think carefully before you answer.

[Spurs m8]

And since good ole aj couldn't answer me, maybe you can try. If Westbrook is such a terrible turnover machine, and since assist to turnover ratio is such a great metric for looking at it, how do you account for Lebron's and Westbrook's assist-to-turnover ratio being nearly identical?

Is a) Westbrook being unfairly criticized? or b) Lebron just as sloppy of a turnover machine as Westbrook, or c) assist-to-turnover ratio is a completely meaningless stat?

Think carefully before you answer.

AJ, what is the answer?

[Hey Yo]

Like how do you even fall for that?

:roll:

Fall for what? You think Detroit was a dynasty from 88-90 like he claimed?

[1987_Lakers]

I'm talking about THIS YEAR. The year Lebron and Westbrook are playing together. The year that Westbrook is being scapegoated for the Lakers massive underachievement. Let's try this again.

If Westbrook is such a terrible turnover machine, and since assist to turnover ratio is such a great metric for looking at it, how do you account for Lebron's and Westbrook's assist-to-turnover ratio being nearly identical?

Is a) Westbrook being unfairly criticized? or b) Lebron just as sloppy of a turnover machine as Westbrook, or c) assist-to-turnover ratio is a completely meaningless stat?

Think carefully before you answer.

You do realize LeBron is averaging 29 ppg on 63 TS% while Westbrick is at 20 ppg at 52 TS% right?

The reason why people shit on Westbrook is not only because of his turnovers, it's because of his dumb decision making where he is always taking dumb shots, he can't shoot at all, and he's always going at 100 mpg when it isn't necessary. Dude is the definition of low IQ and you are trying to defend him. LOL.

[Full Court]

Fall for what? You think Detroit was a dynasty from 88-90 like he claimed?

Lol. They think they did something clever. Still waiting to see if any of them have the balls to answer my question above.

[1987_Lakers]

Fall for what? You think Detroit was a dynasty from 88-90 like he claimed?

:roll:

[Full Court]

You do realize LeBron is averaging 29 ppg on 63 TS% while Westbrick is at 20 ppg at 52 TS% right?

The reason why people shit on Westbrook is not only because of his turnovers, it's because of his dumb decision making where he is always taking dumb shots, he can't shoot at all, and he's always going at 100 mpg when it isn't necessary. Dude is the definition of low IQ and you are trying to defend him. LOL.

So is it a, b, or c?

And you're the one who brought the topic in from another thread, homie.

[1987_Lakers]

So is it a, b, or c?

And you're the one who brought the topic in from another thread, homie.

d - none.

[Full Court]

d - none.

Which is a completely nonsensical answer. That's ok though. I expected it.

[1987_Lakers]

Which is a completely nonsensical answer. That's ok though. I expected it.

Were the 2011-2014 Miami Heat a dynasty?

a - yes
b - no

[Full Court]

Were the 2011-2014 Miami Heat a dynasty?

a - yes
b - no

Sure, why not?

Lol. You Lebronies are a strange bunch.

[SATAN]

Full Court getting owned but he's too obnoxious to see it.

[TheCorporation]

Full Court getting owned but he's too obnoxious to see it.

+1

He's embarrassing.

[Full Court]

Full Court getting owned but he's too obnoxious to see it.


+1

He's embarrassing.

Thank goodness you guys are here to come to 1987_Lakers' aid. If you read above, he clearly needs it.

[TheCorporation]

Interesting

[8Ball]

Man did Full Court get his shit pushed in.

I really missed out on the forum bukkake over him.

[TheGoatest]

How about this:

Players who lost to same team 2 years in a row, then proceeded to lose to another team 3 years in a row? A 2-3 gang rape combo in a span of 5 years. I can only think of one player raped this badly by two teams switching turns.

[ImKobe]

Pippen lost to the Lakers 4 years in a row (99-02), 3x of those came in the 1st round (his teams were 1 - 9 in those games) and he was on a superteam for the first one.

Pippen went from 3-Peating with MJ to losing in the 1st round 4 out of the next 5 years.

[TheCorporation]

Man did Full Court get his shit pushed in.

I really missed out on the forum bukkake over him.

+1

The poor cuck was bullied at will. Almost feel bad for him.

Almost :lol

[Spurs m8]

Lol, Full Court is so far under crackheads skin, that crackys bumping threads

[Johnny32]

Man did Full Court get his shit pushed in.

I really missed out on the forum bukkake over him.

deep and hard.

[3ba11]

Jordan is 1-3 against the Pistons just like Lebron is 1-3 against the Warriors

However, Klay/Dray hadn't been all-stars heading into the 2015 season and the Warriors were a total surprise team that had never done anything - they were weak compared to the 89-91' Bad Boys that were hardened champions from beating the Celtics/Lakers in legendary wars..

So Jordan beat the far tougher dynasty than the Curry Warriors, and he did it by building a lottery roster ORGANICALLY - he wasn't granted Year 1 favorite status by forming super-teams like 11' or 15' Lebron..

But the real difference between Lebron and MJ is that Jordan didn't just beat the Bad Boy dynasty - he ended their brand from ever being competitive again by developing a BETTER brand based on finesse and ball movement.. That's what organic teams do - they don't win one-offs - they end eras by developing a better way to play basketball (Spurs, Warriors, 90's Bulls)

Unfortunately, Lebron's skillset can't win organically (develop superior brand) because his frontcourt ball-dominance imposes spot-up roles that stall young players and brand, thereby needing ready-made stars to win (talent-based winning... all-star team strategy).. He never evolved out of ball-dominant offenses that revolve around him, so he never learned to elevate teammates beyond spot-up roles.. Since he can't elevate teammates or brand, he can't win organically and is therefore inferior to guys that learned how to win (organic) and also guys that can defeat maximum defensive attention (carry scoring load for playoffs and Finals of title run)..

Lebron can't carry the scoring load on the highest level because his high scoring is too ball-dominant to beat good teams (09'), and his efficiency suffers at higher jumpshooting volume (15').. Since he can't beat good teams with high scoring, aka carry the scoring load, aka defeat max defensive attention, he needs equal-scoring partners to attract equal defensive attention and take attention away

[Johnny32]

the pistons brand of basketball ended when the lg changed the flagrant foul rule to help mj. nice try though.

[hiphopanonymous]

Pretty much every single person / player in the league during the Celtics 9 title streak

Same as with a lot of players / teams during the two Jordan three peats

[3ba11]

the pistons brand of basketball ended when the lg changed the flagrant foul rule to help mj. nice try though.


Teams win organically by developing the best brand of basketball in the league like the Spurs, Warriors or 90's Bulls.

So organic champions win via brand of ball, while Lebron is a talent-based winner that simply assembles enough talent to win.. He never learned a good brand of basketball, so he never learned how to win (organic) and only learned how to team-hop (talent-based winning.. all-star team strategy).

Since Lebron's is bad at brand of ball and doesn't know how to win (organic), he's inferior to guys that DO know how to win, and he's also inferior to guys that can defeat maximum defensive attention (carry the scoring load in playoffs and Finals while winning chip).. Lebron's high scoring is too ball-dominant to beat good teams (poor brand), so he can't carry scoring load/defeat max defensive attention - he needs equal-scoring partners to attract equal defensive attention and CLOSE

[Spurs m8]

Losing 1-4 and then getting swept the following year....along with giving your direct opponent FMVP BOTH times :roll::roll::roll:

[8Ball]

+1

The poor cuck was bullied at will. Almost feel bad for him.

Almost :lol

Bullied AT WILL.

We are like Shaq vs him. When we show up WE decide how much bukkake he drowns in.

BBQ chicken on Full Court. :lol

[Johnny32]

hurrr, winning organically. durrr, maximum defensive attention.

how many times will the window licker type these words in the next 24 hours?

[TheCorporation]

Bullied AT WILL.

We are like Shaq vs him. When we show up WE decide how much bukkake he drowns in.

BBQ chicken on Full Court. :lol

:roll: Full Cuck :lol :roll:

[Shooter]

3 straight years: 2016, 2017, 2018
Loser: Derozan
Winner: Cleveland Cavaliers



3 straight years: 1988, 1989, 1990
Loser: Jordan
Winner: Detroit Pistons


Who else has lost to the same team 3 years in a row?

• Derozan
• Jordan

[Axe]

Interesting (http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/misc.php?do=whoposted&t=494699).

[Full Court]

Man, I sure had the Bronies in a meltdown in this thread. I didn't even see it before. :roll: 8Pauper and TheConstipation in their typical damage control meltdowns.

Thanks for bumping, Spooter.

By the way Spooter, I have a question for you. Which is worse, losing to the same team three years in a row, or losing six years straight to five different teams? You know, like Bronie did from 2006-2011?

Man, don't you ever get tired of getting ethered in your own threads? :roll:

[Johnny32]

what's even more embarrassing is the league had to change the flagrant foul rules just to get jordone by the pistons.

[Full Court]

what's even more embarrassing is the league had to change the flagrant foul rules just to get jordone by the pistons.

Since Spooter won't answer the question, maybe you can, Jabroni32.

Which is worse, losing to the same team three years in a row, or losing six years straight to five different teams? You know, like Bronie did from 2006-2011?

[kawhileonard2]

Lebron lost to players and teams that never won a title and lost to team when Lebron had HCA.

[GrayGoat]

Kawhi lost to the bench 3 years running

[Johnny32]

imagine getting bullied by the twig brothers.

https://media.gettyimages.com/photos/bill-laimbeer-of-the-detroit-pistons-poses-for-a-portrait-circa-1990-picture-id498040078?s=612x612

https://media.gettyimages.com/photos/john-salley-of-the-detroit-pistons-looks-on-in-a-game-during-the-nba-picture-id2074139?s=612x612

[Full Court]

Bronies can't handle simple questions, can they? :lol

[GrayGoat]

Bronies can't handle simple questions, can they? :lol

But can Kawhi defeat the bench and step foot on the court?

[Shooter]

what's even more embarrassing is the league had to change the flagrant foul rules just to get jordone by the pistons.

Precisely this. They saw that MJ had no shot getting past the Pistons after getting Derozan'd for three straight years so they helped him out.

[GrayGoat]

Precisely this. They saw that MJ had no shot getting past the Pistons after getting Derozan'd for three straight years so they helped him out.

MJ lost early to preserve his legacy

[aceman]

Players don't lose to teams other teams do..

[Spurs m8]

Shooter still seething daily :roll:

Fvckjng pathetic loser

[Shooter]

imagine getting bullied by the twig brothers.

https://media.gettyimages.com/photos/bill-laimbeer-of-the-detroit-pistons-poses-for-a-portrait-circa-1990-picture-id498040078?s=612x612

https://media.gettyimages.com/photos/john-salley-of-the-detroit-pistons-looks-on-in-a-game-during-the-nba-picture-id2074139?s=612x612

:roll::roll:

[Spurs m8]

Don't worry shooter....you can spend next weekend here too, melting over MJ!!

And the entire summer!!!

You are a real winner!!!!

[TheGoatest]

jordon went from losing to the same team 2 seasons in a row to then losing to the same team 3 seasons in a row to then suddenly winning 3 championships while the aforementioned 2 teams he lost to became blatantly washed and lost to random, mediocre teams. 90s power vacuum exploitation, folks.

[Baller789]

:roll::roll:

Lambier a twig? And you had to find a picture with the exact angle and lighting to show that.

And you wonder why youre not credible here. :roll:

[Full Court]

But can Kawhi defeat the bench and step foot on the court?

:biggums:

You say that like you think I'm a fan of Mr. Load Management. Fact is that these lame Bronie damage control efforts ignore the fact that Bronie himself lost SIX years in a row to five teams. Chronic loser.

Truth hurts.

:lebroncry:

[Johnny32]

https://pm1.narvii.com/6504/8f16c28763e81479938c4b6b26a8a899668868ce_hq.jpg

lol imagine crying about this man bullying you every season until the league changes the rules for you. my granny has more muscle tone than that "bully." so embarrassing.

[red1]

shooter shitting on lebron_m8 like always :oldlol:

[And1AllDay]

https://pm1.narvii.com/6504/8f16c28763e81479938c4b6b26a8a899668868ce_hq.jpg

lol imagine crying about this man bullying you every season until the league changes the rules for you. my granny has more muscle tone than that "bully." so embarrassing.

issssa big wrap bois we gottem again

:dancin :djparty

[kawhileonard2]

Need an answer on each thread below.

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?489748-When-KD-and-Lebron-go-head-to-head
http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?t=459570

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?495113-Vassilis-Spanoulis-Giannis-Antetokounmpo-s-And-Luka-Doncic-s-Idol-Retired
https://www.espn.com/olympics/wbc2006/news/story?id=2568543

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?495940-Lebron-with-Shaq-2nd-round-exit-Giannis-with-Middleton-a-Title

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?495955-Giannis-just-blasted-those-who-join-super-teams-in-post-conference-interview

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?493982-Devin-Booker-Vs-Lebron-James-who-is-better-currently

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?496095-Devin-Booker-put-up-47-his-playoff-career-high-on-Lebron

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?496253-Lebron-won-2-bronze-medals-for-the-United-States-of-America-How

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?496256-Lebron-with-Tim-Duncan-Bronze-Medal-in-Olympics-Vince-with-KG-Gold-Medal

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?496255-Lebron-with-Carlos-Boozer-No-Playoffs-Deron-Williams-with-Carlos-Boozer-WCF

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?496549-Lebron-stacking-the-deck-in-2022-because-he-is-afraid-of-Devin-Booker

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?492941-1-Title-in-11-Years-for-the-Franchise-that-you-originally-played-for


http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?496831-times-when-each-top-10-player-all-time-Lost-when-they-were-expected-to-win

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?486706-Rob-Parker-LeBron-is-the-FFOAT

Record against teams with an SRS of 5.0 or higher.
http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?497187-Record-against-teams-with-an-SRS-of-5-0-or-higher

Not 3, not 4, 5, 6, 7, 8 or Playoff Mode Activated or A Storm is Coming
http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?494319-Not-3-not-4-5-6-7-8-or-Playoff-Mode-Activated-or-A-Storm-is-Coming/page2


Playoff Mode: ACTIVATED
http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?473762-Playoff-Mode-ACTIVATED

Lowest Scoring Supporting Cast Overall Playoffs
http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?463869-Lowest-Scoring-Supporting-Cast-Overall-Playoffs/page3


http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?499837-Greatest-floor-raise-of-all-time/page2
Lebron played with Shaq who won league mvp and 3 finals mvp's and lost in round 2. Lebron played with Peak Duncan who had won 2 league mvp's and 3 finals mvp's and won bronze medal. Lebron played with Peak Wade who won finals mvp and got outplayed by Jason Terry. Lebron played with Derrick Rose who won mvp under age 30 which was the same as Kevin Durant who won mvp under 30 while both were on Golden State and Cleveland. Lebron played with mulitple PER leaders as well and now Russell Westbrook a league mvp winner and more triple doubles than Oscar Robertson. Yet despite all of that Lebron lost with all of them.


Jarrett Allen vs Gobert and Jarrett Allen vs Lebron
http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?499786-Jarrett-Allen-vs-Gobert-and-Jarrett-Allen-vs-Lebron

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?500431-Lakers-were-1-in-Preseason-Odds-in-2021-and-Suns-were-14
Was #1 in Preseason odds and lost to a 14th seed in odds

https://www.basketball-reference.com/leagues/NBA_2021_preseason_odds.html

And Devin Booker walked them down in the playoffs with Devin outplaying Lebron. :confusedshrug:


http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?500416-Why-did-Pelinka-surround-Lebron-with-a-bullshit-roster
He has peak Anthony Davis, the best player on the 2020 squad and the reason the Lakers did anything as the 2019 Lakers missed the playoffs and 2021 Lakers lost in round 1 when AD wasn't around. He has Prime Melo who won a scoring title and all time leader in scoring for the Olympics. He has Dwight Howard a 3x DPOY and a guy who beat Lebron without HCA. He has Westbrook who is the modern day Oscar Robertson and also won league mvp along with average a Triple Double 4 years in a row. He also has Rondo who is a hall of famer.

Why didn't he play it against Dwight Howard in 2009 when Dwight was dominating http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?459570-How-is-it-even-possible-to-lose-to-Dwight-Howard-in-a-series-with-HCA/page10? Or against Duncan or KG or Dirk? Why did he run away from KD a guy at his position?
http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?489748-When-KD-and-Lebron-go-head-to-head

Why didn't he do **** against Booker in the playoffs as well?

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?496095-Devin-Booker-put-up-47-his-playoff-career-high-on-Lebron


Devin Booker broke Lebron
http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?500264-Devin-Booker-broke-Lebron&p=14500724


http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?503966-3ball-why-can-LeBron-win-with-Irving-but-KD-can-t&p=14584482#post14584482

Lebron won bronze medal twice and lost with HCA 3x. Jordan only won gold medal and never lost with HCA. Prove me wrong!

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?500440-Russell-Westbrook-leading-the-league-in-Triple-Doubles-Thus-far-in-2022-Season
https://www.statmuse.com/nba/ask/triple-double-leaders-2021-2022-stats

Expected Championships Won and Titles Over Expected
http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?500379-Expected-Championships-Won-and-Titles-Over-Expected/page3&p=14503600


How did LeBron go 10-16 vs Kawhi? 7-12 vs Shaq? 17-23 vs Curry?
http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?500334-How-did-LeBron-go-10-16-vs-Kawhi-7-12-vs-Shaq-17-23-vs-Curry

Top 50 All-Time List - Shot Clock Era = #1
http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?497028-Top-50-All-Time-List-Shot-Clock-Era-1&p=14426360&viewfull=1#post14426360


Difference between Lebron and Tmac?
http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?494830-Difference-between-Lebron-and-Tmac
Both 0-2 with HCA against 50+ win teams until they joined forces with someone who won as the man. Also won bronze medals.

Tmac lost to Utah in 2007 while Lebron was losing to a career loser in Dwight Howard and also Carlos Arroyo in the Olympics with peak Tim Duncan on his squad despite playing more minutes than Hakeem even played on the 1996 Olympic team.



LeBron's message that makes the NBA shake: A storm is coming
http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?500734-LeBron-s-message-that-makes-the-NBA-shake-A-storm-is-coming

https://www.marca.com/en/more-sports/2021/04/09/6070b833ca47418e588b45e9.html


http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?480740-Vasileios-Spanoulis-gt-gt-gt-Lebron-James
Outplayed Lebron in FIBA and caused America to get another bronze medal and then Greece got spanked in Gold medal final.:oldlol:

http://archive.fiba.com/pages/eng/fa/game/p/gid/A/grid/75/rid/5152/sid/3507/_/2006_FIBA_World_Championship/statistic.html


First Time Ever a team with 2 guys who won MVP missed the playoffs
http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?503543-First-Time-Ever-a-team-with-2-guys-who-won-MVP-missed-the-playoffs


http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?503981-Why-does-Lebron-have-2-bronze-medals-while-KD-only-has-gold-medals&p=14584371#post14584371

https://media0.giphy.com/media/l0ErLeqamV3UOARsA/giphy.gif

[Axe]

Hey shout out to jordansbulls of realgm.

[Full Court]

Hey, are any of you guys really knowledgeable about basketball history? There was something I was wondering about. How many times did Lebron three-peat?

[Shooter]

Hey, are any of you guys really knowledgeable about basketball history? There was something I was wondering about. How many times did Lebron three-peat?

Players that lost to same team 3 years in a row? Jordan, DeRozan, who else?

[Full Court]

Are you scared to answer this question, Spooter? Which is worse, losing to the same team three years in a row, or losing six years straight to five different teams? You know, like Bronie did from 2006-2011?