Kds legacy safe from finals loss *whew* giannis still at risk

[And1AllDay]

good thing for kd he lost sooner

[Walk on Water]

True. The further you get, the more the expectations are. Like when the Warriors won 73, they were expected to win.

[Shooter]

True. The further you get, the more the expectations are. Like when the Warriors won 73, they were expected to win.

That's right. Better to lose early and lower any expectations so as to boost your legacy :lol Moron

[Shooter]

Guys?

Good thing KD saved his legacy with a 2nd round exit.
Oh shoot, Giannis won, now he is one step closer to putting his legacy at risk :lol

[Airupthere]

Its fine to lose in the finals. Unless you were on a team that was expected to win “not 7” and lose to a bunch of grandpas. Now that is embarrassing. When you stack your team up, you have no right losing. That automatically disqualifies you from any goat talks

[Gohan]

yea but when giannis wins it makes lebrowski look bad for hopping teams while giannis waited it out and did it the hardway

[Shooter]

Its fine to lose in the finals. Unless you were on a team that was expected to win “not 7” and lose to a bunch of grandpas. Now that is embarrassing. When you stack your team up, you have no right losing. That automatically disqualifies you from any goat talks

Nope, Finals loss is a legacy destroyer.

Good thing KD lost in the 2nd round. He's safe. Giannis is at risk tho!

[Airupthere]

This is after the jazz swept the lakers.

"This is special, no doubt about it," a stoic Malone said afterward. "I'll admit it, it's nice to take the Lakers out in this fashion. But we didn't come here to win a conference finals. We came for the ring. There's still one round to go."

[Airupthere]

Well not just lebron, how about we celebrate all finals losses on ish as well?

Can we have like a weekly thread celebrating those that reached the finals and lost?

[Airupthere]

Can anyone do a tribute thread for the 2009 orlando magic for reaching the finals but losing? That was a moment of victory for dwight and cast.

[Shooter]

Can anyone do a tribute thread for the 2009 orlando magic for reaching the finals but losing? That was a moment of victory for dwight and cast.

Nope 2009 hurt his legacy to lose in the Finals.

[Airupthere]

Nope 2009 hurt his legacy to lose in the Finals.

Why? But he reached the finals.. surely that counts a ton right?

[Airupthere]

Reminds me of the 2002-2003 nets. Damn, back to back finals losses. That should boost kidd and kenyon’s careers.

[Shooter]

Why? But he reached the finals.. surely that counts a ton right?

I've heard it is the ultimate destroyer and it's better to pull MJ 1-9's in the 1st round :roll::roll:

Is it true? :lol

[Spurs m8]

Giannis doesn't claim to be a GOAT...and also already have a pathetic finals loss record.

Gaslighting cvnt

[Shooter]

Giannis doesn't claim to be a GOAT...and also already have a pathetic finals loss record.

Gaslighting cvnt

He should have pulled a 1-9 legacy saver instead :lol

[Airupthere]

I've heard it is the ultimate destroyer and it's better to pull MJ 1-9's in the 1st round :roll::roll:

Is it true? :lol

When starting out, hampered by early injury and drug infested team/organization that showede minimal professionalism. Kid must have a strong head not to give in to that culture. But once you have assembled that team, once they made it to the finals.. never lost.

Lebron painstakingly risked a lot and put eveything into forming superteams.. goddamit at least make sure you seal the deal when you reach the finals, at the highest stage. But for lebron, no

[Shooter]

When starting out, hampered by early injury and drug infested team/organization that showede minimal professionalism. Kid must have a strong head not to give in to that culture. But once you have assembled that team, once they made it to the finals.. never lost.

Lebron painstakingly risked a lot and put eveything into forming superteams.. goddamit at least make sure you seal the deal when you reach the finals, at the highest stage. But for lebron, no

Oh, so once he had a team that could carry him he never lost :lol

So it sounds like his career was very...teammate dependent? :pimp:

Be careful with me, you know how this goes :lol

No Pip, No Chip.

Exactly what we knew. MJ's career was teammate dependent. He needed Pippen and Jackson.

[Spurs m8]

He should have pulled a 1-9 legacy saver instead :lol

6 out of 6 as the man...without collusion
Highest skilled and goat to most.

It keeps you up at night.

Jordan d1cks you on the daily

[Shooter]

6 out of 6 as the man...without collusion
Highest skilled and goat to most.

It keeps you up at night.

Jordan d1cks you on the daily

Just as long as Pippen was there to carry him, right? :lol

[Airupthere]

Oh, so once he had a team that could carry him he never lost :lol

So it sounds like his career was very...teammate dependent? :pimp:

Be careful with me, you know how this goes :lol

No Pip, No Chip.

Exactly what we knew. MJ's career was teammate dependent. He needed Pippen and Jackson.

Unlike bronstans, I dont claim that MJ did it by himself. I appreciate those Bulls lineups. MJ was the driver and made sure they never lost in the finals. 6/6, damn. Two 3peats. You do realize how fragile things are and 3peating once takes every ounce of drive and competitiveness one has.

Lebron oth, why the hell would he let their superteam lose in the finals? You worked ao hard to team up and make it to the finals only to let yourselves lose? Wtf? Against a bunch of granpas to boot? When you have the upperhand and condition needed to win, and still fail, that ia downright embarrassing. Lebron was dependent on teammates too. If he wasnt then he aould have stayed in CLE.

[ImKobe]

6 out of 6 as the man...without collusion
Highest skilled and goat to most.

It keeps you up at night.

Jordan d1cks you on the daily

MJ's standards are unreachable.. I don't know why we must do it with every ATG that comes after him but no one's going to be the best player on his team for EVERY Playoff series like MJ was, and win as much as he did. Kareem, Magic, Kobe, Shaq etc all won a bunch of titles, but they weren't the best in the league or the best on their team (and the opposing team for that matter) for EVERY series like MJ was. No one ever outperformed Jordan in a series, whether it was his teammate or the opposing player. That's just insane and damn near impossible to replicate.

[Shogon]

Bill Russell shits on Michael Jordan and everyone else for that matter. The standard was set ~60 years ago and it will likely never be matched because no player has come along since that has the combination of in game understanding and in game will to win that much.

Basketball is a team game and Russell alone might be the only anomaly in league history to buck that fact.

Would he win a league historic 1 on 1 contest? Hell no. But basketball isn't a 1 on 1 contest, despite how thirsty most posters on this board are to make it so, which is why you see certain players ranked significantly higher than they otherwise would be because morons value individual scoring above all. If we were to do a league history 1 on 1 contest, the winner would probably be Kevin Durant. But I have bad news for them. Kevin Durant is far far far from being the best player ever. That's not what basketball is.

**** you all.

[Bronbron23]

good thing for kd he lost sooner

You guys are so wack. It's pretty simple. The better you and your team are the higher the expectations. If your not a very good team when u lose its usually because the other team was significantly better. If your a strong team when you lose its usually for another reason related to performance of the star player, coach and role players. This is why finals loses can be perceived as worse. It's because usually the 2 teams are one of the best in their conference and they're closer in talent and production to one another.

In short it's worse when u have a chance and lose then when you don't have a chance and lose. Lebrons finals loses in 11 and 14 are much worse than his finals losses in 15 and 18 because his team was good enough to win in 11 and 14. They weren't really in 15 and 18.

[Gohan]

He should have pulled a 1-9 legacy saver instead :lol

if he did that he'd have to win 100% of the time in the finals

[Shooter]

Bill Russell shits on Michael Jordan and everyone else for that matter. The standard was set ~60 years ago and it will likely never be matched because no player has come along since that has the combination of in game understanding and in game will to win that much.

Basketball is a team game and Russell alone might be the only anomaly in league history to buck that fact.

Would he win a league historic 1 on 1 contest? Hell no. But basketball isn't a 1 on 1 contest, despite how thirsty most posters on this board are to make it so, which is why you see certain players ranked significantly higher than they otherwise would be because morons value individual scoring above all. If we were to do a league history 1 on 1 contest, the winner would probably be Kevin Durant. But I have bad news for them. Kevin Durant is far far far from being the best player ever. That's not what basketball is.

**** you all.

Bingo

[jayfan]

Again, Lebron's legacy took no hit for getting swept in '07.

It's all relative and it's all about context.



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[8Ball]

good thing for kd he lost sooner

Yes.

Jordan stans actually believe KD losing in the 2nd round is better for his legacy than advancing further in 2021 playoffs yet losing in the finals.

Their arguments are so stupid I destroy them on the daily.

[FireDavidKahn]

Bill Russell shits on Michael Jordan and everyone else for that matter. The standard was set ~60 years ago and it will likely never be matched because no player has come along since that has the combination of in game understanding and in game will to win that much.

Basketball is a team game and Russell alone might be the only anomaly in league history to buck that fact.

Would he win a league historic 1 on 1 contest? Hell no. But basketball isn't a 1 on 1 contest, despite how thirsty most posters on this board are to make it so, which is why you see certain players ranked significantly higher than they otherwise would be because morons value individual scoring above all. If we were to do a league history 1 on 1 contest, the winner would probably be Kevin Durant. But I have bad news for them. Kevin Durant is far far far from being the best player ever. That's not what basketball is.

**** you all.

Someone has never heard of Mikan.

If you go by pure dominance and impact of every part of the game then no one comes close to Mikan. You basically have Bill Russell on defense while being one of the best offensive players in the league.

[SATAN]

good thing for kd he lost sooner

By playing hero ball and throwing up an air ball buzzer beater. All good though. Only second round.

[hold this L]

Bill Russell shits on Michael Jordan and everyone else for that matter. The standard was set ~60 years ago and it will likely never be matched because no player has come along since that has the combination of in game understanding and in game will to win that much.

Basketball is a team game and Russell alone might be the only anomaly in league history to buck that fact.

Would he win a league historic 1 on 1 contest? Hell no. But basketball isn't a 1 on 1 contest, despite how thirsty most posters on this board are to make it so, which is why you see certain players ranked significantly higher than they otherwise would be because morons value individual scoring above all. If we were to do a league history 1 on 1 contest, the winner would probably be Kevin Durant. But I have bad news for them. Kevin Durant is far far far from being the best player ever. That's not what basketball is.

**** you all.

Bill played with the most stacked team of all time during the worst level of talent ever in the NBA. Stop trying to give it as much weight as when other superstars won decades later.

[Shooter]

By playing hero ball and throwing up an air ball buzzer beater. All good though. Only second round.

And getting blocked by Brook Lopez with 1 min left :lol And zero OT points

[Bronbron23]

Yes.

Jordan stans actually believe KD losing in the 2nd round is better for his legacy than advancing further in 2021 playoffs yet losing in the finals.

Their arguments are so stupid I destroy them on the daily.

Nah it's not better it's not not much worse. That's your problem. You actually think losing later is way better when it's not. At the end of the day you still lost. Your just basically a better loser for whatever that's worth.

And the reason why it can be viewed worse by some is because alot of the time teams lose in the first round it's because they simply aren't as good as the other team. In the finals or semis usually teams are more evenly matched so when you lose its actually worse because u had a legit chance at winning you just couldn't get it done. Case in point look st steph this year and steph in 16. Nobody really faults steph for losing this year because his team clearly wasn't very good due to injuries. Even though he made it way futher in 16 it's way worse because he had a great team and great chance at winning he just couldn't get it done. How you and your flunky bron stan buddies don't understand this is beyond me.

[Gohan]

Nah it's not better it's not not much worse. That's your problem. You actually think losing later is way better when it's not. At the end of the day you still lost. Your just basically a better loser for whatever that's worth.

And the reason why it can be viewed worse by some is because alot of the time teams lose in the first round it's because they simply aren't as good as the other team. In the finals or semis usually teams are more evenly matched so when you lose its actually worse because u had a legit chance at winning you just couldn't get it done. Case in point look st steph this year and steph in 16. Nobody really faults steph for losing this year because his team clearly wasn't very good due to injuries. Even though he made it way futher in 16 it's way worse because he had a great team and great chance at winning he just couldn't get it done. How you and your flunky bron stan buddies don't understand this is beyond me.


great points, it's not like cleveland were underdogs all the time, they were favorites to win some of those championships

[Bronbron23]

great points, it's not like cleveland were underdogs all the time, they were favorites to win some of those championships

I think cle was always an underdog against those warriors teams but it wasn't by much and the teams were very close in talent. Warriors just moved the ball better and played smarter tbh. If steph shows up in game 7 they win. It was only a one possession game and steph had 17pts and 2 assists on 32%fg and 29% 3pt. That's extremely poor for someone of his caliber. He just straight chocked. Steph stans can use the dray being suspended excuse all they want but the truth is if steph dosn't choke warriors win.

[WhiteKyrie]

Its fine to lose in the finals. Unless you were on a team that was expected to win “not 7” and lose to a bunch of grandpas. Now that is embarrassing. When you stack your team up, you have no right losing. That automatically disqualifies you from any goat talks
Facts.

If you got to the Finals as an alpha caliber franchise superstar, HOFer, top 15 or hell a Top 10 or Top 5 player of all time. Let alone what some children now a days might in their retardation think is the GOAT … usually it means your team was good enough to support you to get there.

Let alone potentially being the superior talented team and the favorites in some cases. Regardless of regular season record.

Then losing in the Finals is undoubtedly a skid mark on your legacy to hold your ranking back. See: Wilt and Jerry West.

Way worse than say losing in the first round as a very young player with trash coke head teammates while losing to all time great (top 5 ever) caliber basketball teams led by a Mount Rushmore player.

Now, imagine this self proclaimed, and overhyped by Zoomers as being GOAT, not even being able to make the playoffs, or able to get out of the first round with hand picked it manipulated rosters with an advantage in a series while the other team is missing their best player?!

:oldlol:

[Shooter]

Facts.

If you got to the Finals as an alpha caliber franchise superstar, HOFer, top 15 or hell a Top 10 or Top 5 player of all time. Let alone what some children now a days might in their retardation think is the GOAT … usually it means your team was good enough to support you to get there.

Let alone potentially being the superior talented team and the favorites in some cases. Regardless of regular season record.

Then losing in the Finals is undoubtedly a skid mark on your legacy to hold your ranking back. See: Wilt and Jerry West.

Way worse than say losing in the first round as a very young player with trash coke head teammates while losing to all time great (top 5 ever) caliber basketball teams led by a Mount Rushmore player.

Now, imagine this self proclaimed, and overhyped by Zoomers as being GOAT, not even being able to make the playoffs, or able to get out of the first round with hand picked it manipulated rosters with an advantage in a series while the other team is missing their best player?!

:oldlol:

Another 3balt appears :lol

[Spurs m8]

If you sell yourself as the GOAT, then you're held to the GOAT standard.

And when you fail to live up to that GOAT standard, then you take a hit.

It's really not that hard to understand
..even for the pea brains losers here

But they know this...they're trying to manipulate everyone again.. because facts don't work for them