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Iverson3
06-21-2021, 01:33 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V6DRL-Q_3AY

Iverson is on another level than Little Ben Simmons

Thenameless
06-21-2021, 01:49 AM
No, they're both losers. Iverson is just another punk the opposite of Simmons. He can score, but can't defend.

Session
06-21-2021, 02:01 AM
No, they're both losers. Iverson is just another punk the opposite of Simmons. He can score, but can't defend.
I guess you have not seen Allen Iverson playing. Despite his height he was an elite defender with infinite offensive resources :bowdown:

ImKobe
06-21-2021, 03:15 AM
No shit.

Phoenix
06-21-2021, 05:53 AM
No, they're both losers. Iverson is just another punk the opposite of Simmons. He can score, but can't defend.

Iverson's defense isn't a major liability in the current league. Your PG not taking a single shot in five 4th quarters of a seven game playoff series is.

Plus it's not like A.I was a lamppost defensively. There are limits to your defensive impact at a buck sixty and generously being listed at 6 feet.

miggyme1
06-21-2021, 06:04 AM
Negative. Ai and embiid wouldnt of worked UNLESS embiid was committed to becoming dikembe….no knock on dikembe (he is a hall of famer) but what made AI special was that he would give u 40 or 50 points but he needed 30 shots to do it….in todays Nba AI would prolly be taking 40 plus shots a night……keep in mind the league is more skilled today than it ever was so u gotta factor in shots for your teammates……that leaves about 10 shots for embiid. Not enough for him to impact a game offensively.

HylianNightmare
06-21-2021, 06:09 AM
Easily

Real Men Wear Green
06-21-2021, 07:05 AM
Simmons isn't an MVP caliber player so why make this comparison?

Phoenix
06-21-2021, 07:06 AM
Negative. Ai and embiid wouldnt of worked UNLESS embiid was committed to becoming dikembe….no knock on dikembe (he is a hall of famer) but what made AI special was that he would give u 40 or 50 points but he needed 30 shots to do it….in todays Nba AI would prolly be taking 40 plus shots a night……keep in mind the league is more skilled today than it ever was so u gotta factor in shots for your teammates……that leaves about 10 shots for embiid. Not enough for him to impact a game offensively.

Lol no he wouldn't. That Sixers team was as offensively challenged as any finals team I've ever seen. They basically gave Iverson offensive carte blanche and surrounded him with tough, gritty defenders at every position. Also that era is generally regarded as a tough defensive era so everyone's efficiency was lower than modern stars. All the early 2000's perimeter stars would have better % numbers today. Plus, you really think Larry Brown is going to have A.I out there chucking 25 shots a game if he's got a legit low post scorer in Embid on the block? Mutumbo couldn't' score 20 points if he was alone in a gym for 5 hours.

Iverson gets a bit of a bum rap IMHO. He was a better shooter and off-ball player than people realize. He wasn't a stationary target dribbling the ball for 20 seconds in front of the defense:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZFIwmcgVork


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lZtw8F_bNq4

Gohan
06-21-2021, 09:12 AM
Negative. Ai and embiid wouldnt of worked UNLESS embiid was committed to becoming dikembe….no knock on dikembe (he is a hall of famer) but what made AI special was that he would give u 40 or 50 points but he needed 30 shots to do it….in todays Nba AI would prolly be taking 40 plus shots a night……keep in mind the league is more skilled today than it ever was so u gotta factor in shots for your teammates……that leaves about 10 shots for embiid. Not enough for him to impact a game offensively.

youre an idiot you dont know how well iverson would play with a big man like embiid. that would be a perfect fit for iverson, they were a better team with ratliff than dikembe. iverson would be perfect with embiid. iverson and a decent bigman are title contenders

Jasper
06-21-2021, 02:13 PM
replace Simmons w/ Ball from Pelican's

Spain_
06-21-2021, 02:27 PM
Allen Simmonson would be the GOAT

Smoke117
06-21-2021, 02:55 PM
Nah. Joel Embiid would get fed up with Iverson's chucking and demand a trade.

Gohan
06-21-2021, 03:02 PM
nah. Joel embiid would get fed up with iverson's chucking and demand a trade.

like im getting fed up with your posting and about to demand a ban on your stupid ass

Gohan
06-21-2021, 08:39 PM
lol no he wouldn't. That sixers team was as offensively challenged as any finals team i've ever seen. They basically gave iverson offensive carte blanche and surrounded him with tough, gritty defenders at every position. Also that era is generally regarded as a tough defensive era so everyone's efficiency was lower than modern stars. All the early 2000's perimeter stars would have better % numbers today. Plus, you really think larry brown is going to have a.i out there chucking 25 shots a game if he's got a legit low post scorer in embid on the block? Mutumbo couldn't' score 20 points if he was alone in a gym for 5 hours.

Iverson gets a bit of a bum rap imho. He was a better shooter and off-ball player than people realize. He wasn't a stationary target dribbling the ball for 20 seconds in front of the defense:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zfiwmcgvork


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lztw8f_bnq4

the art of jumpshooting video was simply amazing... I knew he was good but he might be better than lebron

RRR3
06-21-2021, 08:43 PM
the art of jumpshooting video was simply amazing... I knew he was good but he might be better than lebron
Permaban time.

Gohan
06-21-2021, 08:47 PM
permaban time.

existence is pain

Turbo Slayer
06-21-2021, 08:58 PM
They would definitely win more games.

RRR3
06-21-2021, 09:33 PM
please help me I have a severe brain cavity
:biggums:

red1
06-21-2021, 09:34 PM
its addition by subtraction


just removing ben gives more minutes to tyrese maxey and shake milton. adding iverson is overkill.

MadDog
06-21-2021, 09:48 PM
Unlike Ben, AI wouldn't be scared to shoot. He'd have teams scrambling. Prime AI and Embiid are a sickass duo, and would've made the finals.

Gohan
06-21-2021, 09:52 PM
unlike ben, ai wouldn't be scared to shoot. He'd have teams scrambling. Prime ai and embiid are a sickass duo, and wouldve make the finals.

and they would have a closer in iverson. Iverson was a very clutch player at the end of games. He's very underrated in that aspect. The only time i remember him choking was i think game 5 in that detroit series