Did Lebron have anyone calling him the GOAT by Year 9 (2012)?

[3ba11]

Otherwise, Jordan is goat because the most important people in the world were calling him goat by Year 9, like Magic and Isiah during the 1993 Finals:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N6og_pOVi2w


That's how it's supposed to be for the goat - you know right away - the goat isn't supposed to eventually need super-teams and get 1b's because they couldn't win. They have the talent to eventually carry their teams to dynasties.

[theman93]

Well the year prior he lost the Finals and was outscored by a 33 year old bench player who played 67 less minutes so nah.

[Ice Trae]

Well the year prior he lost the Finals and was outscored by a 33 year old bench player who played 67 less minutes so nah.

:oldlol:

[1987_Lakers]

The difference is, LeBron has had a superior career than MJ from age 30-36

LeBron at 35 averaged 30/12/9 on 59% shooting in the Finals
MJ at 35 averaged 33.5/4/2 on 43% shooting in the Finals

MJ at 33 was getting outplayed by Dennis Rodman in the Finals and getting locked up by GP, LeBron at age 31 also beat at 73 win team in the Finals.

[Spurs m8]

LeBrons only had people like Jordans bitter ex-rivals and disabled ISH posters call him GOAT.

Oh, and a couple of cvck media personalities paid to say it, to manufacture the fake hype

[Smoke117]

LeBrons only had people like Jordans bitter ex-rivals and disabled ISH posters call him GOAT.

Oh, and a couple of cvck media personalities paid to say it, to manufacture the fake hype

Settle down, incel m8.

[bison]

I started watching NBA summer of 92. Those memories are very hazy but during my entire time being an NBA fan, I never knew a time where Jordan was anything other than the GOAT.

[Spurs m8]

Settle down, incel m8.

As I've said before, can guarantee you're more of an incel than me...

[Smoke117]

As I've said before, can guarantee you're more of an incel than me...

So you admit you're an incel then? :roll:

[Spurs m8]

So you admit you're an incel then? :roll:

Well I'm in an amazing relationship and getting married in October, so...

[8Ball]

in 1993 they didn't know LeBron existed yet, but if they did, they wouldn't have said a word about Jordan being the GOAT.

[Gohan]

Well I'm in an amazing relationship and getting married in October, so...

tit pics or youre lying...........jk lol

[8Ball]

So you admit you're an incel then? :roll:

He's uneducated.

[Smoke117]

Well I'm in an amazing relationship and getting married in October, so...

Congratulations! That’s great that they allow gay marriage in Australia.

[3ba11]

LeBrons only had people like Jordans bitter ex-rivals and disabled ISH posters call him GOAT.

Oh, and a couple of cvck media personalities paid to say it, to manufacture the fake hype


I thought the paid shills didn't start until around 2015.. It was earlier?

[Spurs m8]

Congratulations! That’s great that they allow gay marriage in Australia.

Lol far out

[Spurs m8]

tit pics or youre lying...........jk lol

:roll:

[8Ball]

Congratulations! That’s great that they allow gay marriage in Australia.

His peak life is a farmer.

[Kblaze8855]

This is what Larry Bird said after the 48th game of Jordan’s career. This is February of his rookie year:



Bird recently volunteered his vote for Jordan as the finest athlete he`d ever witnessed or opposed, mentioning the Bulls` electric rookie in the same monologue as Wayne Gretzky. After observing Jordan gyrate for 41 points, a game-high 12 rebounds and 7 assists Tuesday night, Bird was in no mood for second opinions.

''Best,'' said Bird. ''Never seen anyone like him. Unlike anyone I`ve ever seen. Phenomenal. One of a kind.''

In other words . . .

''One of a kind,'' he repeated. ''That`s what I mean about the league. With guys like him coming in from college year after year, we just can`t help but get a better image, better crowds, better TV ratings. He`s the best. Ever.''

Better than Larry Bird?

''Yup,'' said Bird. 'At his stage in his career, he`s doing more than I ever did. I couldn`t do what he did as a rookie. Heck, there was one drive tonight. He had the ball up in his right hand, then he took it down, then he brought it back up. I got a hand on it, fouled him, and he still scored. And all the while, he`s in the air. You have to play this game to know how difficult that is. You see that and figure, `Well, what the heck can you do?` ''

One of Jordan`s creations didn`t make it to the scorebook. Near the end of the first quarter, he posed at the center line, dribbling seconds away, like an airplane about to take off. Then he bore through and over a sea of green jerseys for a slam. Mike Mathis, the out official, figured something so spectacular couldn`t also be legal, so he whistled Jordan for an offensive foul.

''Best,'' repeated Bird. ''I`d seen a little of him before and wasn`t that impressed. I mean, I thought he`d be good, but not this good. Ain`t nothing he can`t do. That`s good for this franchise, good for the league.''

[Spurs m8]

This is what Larry Bird said after the 48th game of Jordan’s career. This is February of his rookie year:

There ya go smokey....

[1987_Lakers]

This is what Larry Bird said after the 48th game of Jordan’s career. This is February of his rookie year:

Bird on Magic after game 4 of the '87 Finals...


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FoFbi-w-eeY

[FatrickChewing]

Congratulations! That’s great that they allow gay marriage in Australia.

Lmao. He's getting married to PatrickChewing.

[Gohan]

lmao they hating on spurs m8 cause he's doing the right thing...getting married i hope yall stay married cause god doesnt like divorce. have a healthy sexual relationship and please control your thing so you dont committ adultery m8

[3ba11]

The difference is, LeBron has had a superior career than MJ from age 30-36







Pippen

96' Finals.... 15.7 on 41%
97' Finals.... 20.0 on 42%
98' Finals.... 15.7 on 41%

96-98' Playoffs.... 17.6 on 41%


^^^ From 1996-1998, Jordan three-peated as scoring champ and MVP with a cast of defensive role players like ben simmons - that's better than Lebron's entire career of needing super-teams and juggernaut 1b sidekicks that take over series, and it's certainly better than Lebron post-2013 (no MVP's).

So keep dreaming.. Lebron hasn't been MVP or all-defense in 9 years.. That doesn't compare to a league MVP that 3-peats as scoring champ with top 5 DPOY.. Jordan was clearly dominating more based on the things we measure dominance by (MVP, scoring titles, all-defense)






LeBron at 35 averaged 30/12/9 on 59% shooting in the Finals
MJ at 35 averaged 33.5/4/2 on 43% shooting in the Finals





Jordan outscored even Lebron despite carrying defensive role players and therefore facing 5-on-1 defense, while Lebron was sharing the defensive attention with the league's playoffs scoring leader and MVP of the Denver series... Accordingly, Jordan scored a record 38.1% of his team's points with a record 30 clutch points, compared to 27.3% for Lebron and 9 clutch points.. The Bulls/Jazz had a 105/96 ORTG in the 98' Finals, compared to 118/112 in the 20' Finals, so Lebron's Finals was just an easier scoring environment, yet Jordan still outscored him and carried a far bigger burden.






MJ at 33 was getting outplayed by Dennis Rodman in the Finals and getting locked up by GP, LeBron at age 31 also beat at 73 win team in the Finals.







Finals thru 6 games



96' JORDAN.... 27 on 42%... sufficient..... carried defensive role players
13' LEBRON.... 23 on 43%... insufficient... needed bailout and 1b


Lebron needed 1b's and super-teams, while Jordan won the highest quality chips (no 1b's, no 3rd offensive star, no super-teams)

[Spurs m8]

lmao they hating on spurs m8 cause he's doing the right thing...getting married i hope yall stay married cause god doesnt like divorce. have a healthy sexual relationship and please control your thing so you dont committ adultery m8

Thanks mate

Never been a cheater and wouldn't need to with this one anyway...she's a gem.

Cheers

[Kblaze8855]

Bird on Magic after game 4 of the '87 Finals...


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FoFbi-w-eeY

You would have a better point if it were a year after what he said about Jordan not a year before. Not that it has anything to do with the questions on when people started saying Jordan was the best.

[Spurs m8]

Lmao. He's getting married to PatrickChewing.

I'm not down with you guys and your weird hate for each other in the OTC forum

[ImKobe]

Nope. MJ wasn't anywhere near washed to where you needed to bring up longevity records to argue his GOAT case. Jordan didn't need longevity, because he was the undisputed GOAT in the middle of his damn prime.

[And1AllDay]

:oldlol:

3ball :oldlol: another alt

[JohnFreeman]

The GOAT conversation stopped when he was outplayed by Jason Terry

[000]

The GOAT conversation stopped when he was outplayed by Jason Terry
John Starks isiah Thomas plumbers & car mechanics 10 finals 2016 7631!!!:mad:

[3ba11]

So no one?

Okay, it's confirmed

[8Ball]

Scottie Pippen in LeBron's year 8


LeBron James maybe the greatest player to ever play the game," Pippen said Friday morning on ESPN Radio. "Because he's so potent offensively that not only can he score at will, but he keeps everybody involved and you have to be on your Ps and Qs on defense because no guy on the basketball court is not a threat to score when LeBron James is out there. Not only that, but he's also doing it on the defensive end."



Shut it down. Jordan's own teammate said to the world LeBron was the GOAT year 8.

https://media.tenor.com/images/f40c70a52dbf0e83b9d1da6a9eaf7f52/tenor.gif

[Shooter]

Scottie Pippen in LeBron's year 8





Shut it down. Jordan's own teammate said to the world LeBron was the GOAT year 8.

https://media.tenor.com/images/f40c70a52dbf0e83b9d1da6a9eaf7f52/tenor.gif

https://i.postimg.cc/0jRM6w4q/Le-Giannis.gif

https://media.tenor.com/images/f40c70a52dbf0e83b9d1da6a9eaf7f52/tenor.gif

[Hey Yo]

Well the year prior he lost the Finals and was outscored by a 33 year old bench player who played 67 less minutes so nah.

Why did Wade let his direct defensive assignment go off like that?

[3ba11]

Scottie Pippen in LeBron's year 8





Shut it down. Jordan's own teammate said to the world LeBron was the GOAT year 8.

https://media.tenor.com/images/f40c70a52dbf0e83b9d1da6a9eaf7f52/tenor.gif


link please.. we all know pippen never called lebron goat. he said lebron is the best all-round player but not the best and then reversed about 5 times.... he said there's no game that he would take Lebron over Jordan and he wouldn't take Lebron to the movies with him or something.. we can pull up the tape - you'll have to in order to win this debate.

[8Ball]

link please.. we all know pippen never called lebron goat. he said lebron is the best all-round player but not the best and then reversed about 5 times.... he said there's no game that he would take Lebron over Jordan and he wouldn't take Lebron to the movies with him or something.. we can pull up the tape - you'll have to in order to win this debate.

https://chicago.sbnation.com/2011/5/27/2193167/scottie-pippen-lebron-james-better-michael-jordan

In his own voice:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FpFl7-oqoPA&ab_channel=NBAConfidential



LeBron James maybe the greatest player to ever play the game," Pippen said Friday morning on ESPN Radio. "Because he's so potent offensively that not only can he score at will, but he keeps everybody involved and you have to be on your Ps and Qs on defense because no guy on the basketball court is not a threat to score when LeBron James is out there. Not only that, but he's also doing it on the defensive end."



He called Jordan just a scorer :roll:


Scottie Pippen ALWAYS delivers truth bombs about Jordan. Scottie Pippen is the ultimate Jordan SOOTH SAYER.

[8Ball]

3ball right now after listening to Scottie Pippen's testimonial:


https://i.gifer.com/MJdi.gif

[Axe]

The difference is, LeBron has had a superior career than MJ from age 30-36

LeBron at 35 averaged 30/12/9 on 59% shooting in the Finals
MJ at 35 averaged 33.5/4/2 on 43% shooting in the Finals

MJ at 33 was getting outplayed by Dennis Rodman in the Finals and getting locked up by GP, LeBron at age 31 also beat at 73 win team in the Finals.
Kong is better in that case but at that same age, you just can't overlook that he didn't win the finals. If winning is what really matters, that is.

[Thenameless]

Otherwise, Jordan is goat because the most important people in the world were calling him goat by Year 9, like Magic and Isiah during the 1993 Finals:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N6og_pOVi2w


That's how it's supposed to be for the goat - you know right away - the goat isn't supposed to eventually need super-teams and get 1b's because they couldn't win. They have the talent to eventually carry their teams to dynasties.

Except they didn't know right away when Larry Bird and Isiah Thomas were still taking him to school.

If you want greatness right away, Magic won the NBA Championship in his rookie year. And he had to fill in for a pretty good player in the Finals too.