View Full Version : Porzingis for Simmons
Spain_
06-23-2021, 11:12 AM
They both suck with their respective superstar partners maybe Philly is dumb enough to take on that Zingis contract.
Gohan
06-23-2021, 11:15 AM
They both suck with their respective superstar partners maybe Philly is dumb enough to take on that Zingis contract.
if you thought simmons was bad porzingis is even worse despite him having alittle bit of offense. simmons is a great defender and can catch lobs every once in a while atleast
Spain_
06-23-2021, 11:18 AM
if you thought simmons was bad porzingis is even worse despite him having alittle bit of offense. simmons is a great defender and can catch lobs every once in a while atleast
Porzingis averaged 20 and 9 on 37% from 3 this season.
People are overreacting, he is better than Simmons.
FKAri
06-23-2021, 11:25 AM
KP could be out of the league in 5 years and Simmons could still be trucking along. But until then I'd rather have KP than Simmons. At least with KP there's chances he stays healthy and regains form. With Simmons it's a dead end and the kind of player a contending team cannot build around. KP's playstyle makes him very easy to slot in with a greater or reduced role.
AirBonner
06-23-2021, 11:27 AM
It’s a lose lose trade IMO. Even the desperate Celtics traded Kemba for Horford over zinger lol
3ba11
06-23-2021, 12:05 PM
And we already know that having 2 guys in the lineup with a point guard hold time gives teammates less hold-time and assists than they get in 1 point guard lineups.. Lower teammate assists results in low TEAM assists and a low ball-movement brand that yields low team ceilings/Finals record.
But carry on thinking about it your way though, and get surprised by the results every time (never know beforehand what will happen) - Simmons and Luka would be an unmitigated disaster - 2 ball-dominators on the court at once is death for a team - if booker was ball-dominant, he wouldn't win shit with CP3
tontoz
06-23-2021, 12:29 PM
How about John Wall for Simmons? Wall can make standstill 3s and is a good foul shooter. Good distributor and good on the fast break.
Obviously health is an issue. He also needs to reduce the number of midrange jumpers which he loves but sucks at.
dirkdiggler41
06-23-2021, 01:56 PM
Wow. You guys are harsh. Ben Simmons is considered the best defender in the league. He got a ton of basketball IQ. He is 24 years old. He has failed in the playoffs. If there is one thing almost all champions got in common is that they failed the playoffs at a young age and grew from that. Let's not forget Kobe's air balling, Dirk against the Warriors, or LeBron in general. Losing is inevitable for future champions.
FultzNationRISE
06-23-2021, 02:24 PM
I think it's an interesting trade tbh.
The Mavs have plenty of shooting, what they need most is perimeter defense.
What Philly could use is a bit more size/shooting on the wing.
It's not a guarantee either guy ends up being the missing piece of the puzzle, but there'd be reasons for both sides to like the trade.
Spain_
06-23-2021, 02:32 PM
Wow. You guys are harsh. Ben Simmons is considered the best defender in the league. He got a ton of basketball IQ. He is 24 years old. He has failed in the playoffs. If there is one thing almost all champions got in common is that they failed the playoffs at a young age and grew from that. Let's not forget Kobe's air balling, Dirk against the Warriors, or LeBron in general. Losing is inevitable for future champions.
Simmons can't play with Joel, people that can't see this are in denial.
dirkdiggler41
06-23-2021, 02:39 PM
Simmons can't play with Joel, people that can't see this are in denial.
I totally agree. There is not enough spacing. You need to play Simmons with 4 shooters. If some team is able to do that, they will get their Ben-value without a doubt.
Spain_
06-23-2021, 02:53 PM
I totally agree. There is not enough spacing. You need to play Simmons with 4 shooters. If some team is able to do that, they will get their Ben-value without a doubt.
Simmons is not good enough offensively to justify playing him "with 4 shooters".
He is the worst type of player, guy that is talented enough to get max money but at things that aren't worth as much as a max level guy that's a scorer.
He falls into that Rudy category.
Spain_
06-23-2021, 02:54 PM
Simmons is not good enough offensively to justify playing him "with 4 shooters".
He is the worst type of player, guy that is talented enough to get max money but at things that aren't worth as much as a max level guy that's a scorer.
He falls into that Rudy category.
If this was Europe and salary cap wasn't a thing he would be the fourth guy on a stacked team and only shoot 5 times a game.
SouBeachTalents
06-23-2021, 02:58 PM
Wow. You guys are harsh. Ben Simmons is considered the best defender in the league. He got a ton of basketball IQ. He is 24 years old. He has failed in the playoffs. If there is one thing almost all champions got in common is that they failed the playoffs at a young age and grew from that. Let's not forget Kobe's air balling, Dirk against the Warriors, or LeBron in general. Losing is inevitable for future champions.
Comparing Simmons to where those guys were at 24 is a fcking joke :lol
j3lademaster
06-23-2021, 03:24 PM
Comparing Simmons to where those guys were at 24 is a fcking joke :lolright? Lebron gets made fun of for being swept in the finals at 22 after he had an epic performance to upset the pistons, kobe was easily a top 3 player and considered the best already by some, Ben Simmons was expected to… shoot over 50% on his free throws. And not pass up open dunks.
HylianNightmare
06-23-2021, 03:43 PM
Simmons off ball lmao
90sgoat
06-23-2021, 03:49 PM
It could work as a small ball center and running the second unit.
Spurs m8
06-23-2021, 05:21 PM
Well this doesn't make sense what so ever...but okay
AirBonner
06-23-2021, 05:39 PM
Simmons should reposition to center. Bulk up grab rebounds dunk balls
Gohan
06-23-2021, 05:41 PM
simmons should reposition to center. Bulk up grab rebounds dunk balls
when will the girl in your avy have her first child?
dirkdiggler41
06-23-2021, 05:42 PM
Simmons is not good enough offensively to justify playing him "with 4 shooters".
He is the worst type of player, guy that is talented enough to get max money but at things that aren't worth as much as a max level guy that's a scorer.
He falls into that Rudy category.
I consider him a much more mobile Draymond Green. Just think what he would be able to do on that Warriors team. The big difference is Simmons can score in the post. I believe they need to trade him. And whatever team gets him to need to surround him with shooters and of course a Bradley Beal kind of player.
Comparing Simmons to where those guys were at 24 is a fcking joke :lol
Yes, they were much better, but remember, Dirk got destroyed at the age of 28. If that did not happen I doubt he ever wins a championship.
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