View Full Version : I don't get how people say KD is a better scorer than Jordan
Walk on Water
06-24-2021, 03:28 AM
Things have gotten way out of hand. Not only is Jordan the best scorer ever, outside of arguably Wilt Chamberlain, but KD doesn't even average as many points as Jordan. Lol, he doesn't even average more points than Lebron. Think about that. Lebron does a lot more ball-handling than KD and still averages just as many points. Jordan only averaged 22.9 and 20 in his 3rd NBA stint, but still finished with a 30 point per game career average. Plus in Jordan's era, the games were slower.
KD averages 3 points less than Jordan, even while making more 3 pointers. So why doesn't KD average 30 for his career? Because he isn't quite as good at Michael Jordan at scoring. If KD could do it, he would. Some people argue that KD is more gifted because he's taller and shoots 3s better. Since he's taller and shoots 3s better, then he would average more than 30 if he was better at scoring than Jordan.
As a matter of fact Harden is better than KD at scoring arguably. Harden played with Westbrook too and look at the numbers he put up. So you can't use the excuse that it's because KD played with Westbrook.
Also, KD did not average more than Curry in the 3 seasons that they played together.
Yes, he's tall and has a decent 3 point shot. But he doesn't have that many moves other than shooting over people. Jordan could get a fadeaway shot whenver he wanted. KD airballed that potential game winner. Jordan got tough when the tough got going.
Marchesk
06-24-2021, 03:40 AM
He's not. Jordan has 10 scoring titles, tied with Wilt for regular season, and has the top playoff average. Arguably, Harden, West and Kobe are just as good of scorers as KD, with Wilt and Jordan in their own league.
KD does have a 30 point finals average, but so does West. And Jordan, of course, but 3 points higher, as he his over KD across regular season and playoffs as you noted.
Smoke117
06-24-2021, 03:44 AM
Because he is. Facts are facts. :confusedshrug:
Spurs m8
06-24-2021, 03:47 AM
He's not. Jordan has 10 scoring titles, tied with Wilt for regular season, and has the top playoff average. Arguably, Harden, West and Kobe are just as good of scorers as KD, with Wilt and Jordan in their own league.
KD does have a 30 point finals average, but so does West. And Jordan, of course, but 3 points higher, as he his over KD across regular season and playoffs as you noted.
Ether
3ba11
06-24-2021, 05:01 AM
Jordan had the goat drop-step:
http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?492849-The-goat-drop-step
^^^^ This power is why Jordan was far superior to KD - "Jordan's strength was like a big man's" according to Magic Johnson, which gave him an advantage over KD on both ends.. Jordan was a guard that played like a center with "the best post game in basketball":
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SYsbx66LZbA&t=0m43s
So Jordan is an all-time center (and the goat guard), aka overall GOAT
And unlike Lebron (who was outplayed by KD), Jordan had goat jumpshooting skill (in addition to the aforementioned power), so he could pop off in any fashion and overwhelm KD, while Lebron's plodding, dribble-heavy attack couldn't keep up.
ralph_i_el
06-24-2021, 05:42 PM
KD is a much bigger scoring threat off the ball on the perimeter, so the defense has to play him closer at all times.
Manny98
06-24-2021, 06:04 PM
KD scores almost as much as Jordan on WAY higher efficency, therefore he's better
KD has been the best player on some of the greatest teams ever, he will go down as the best player we have ever seen when it's all said and done
Only KD can come back from a torn achilles and be the best player on the planet
LeFossil could never do that because his game is too reliant on his athleticism, same with MJ
Bronbron23
06-24-2021, 06:23 PM
Because he is. Facts are facts. :confusedshrug:
Wtf. Facts say mj is a significantly better scorer. Did u mean opinions are opinions?
Bronbron23
06-24-2021, 06:30 PM
KD scores almost as much as Jordan on WAY higher efficency, therefore he's better
KD has been the best player on some of the greatest teams ever, he will go down as the best player we have ever seen when it's all said and done
Only KD can come back from a torn achilles and be the best player on the planet
LeFossil could never do that because his game is too reliant on his athleticism, same with MJ
Dude do you just lie like this all the time? Kd is barely more efficient than mj even though he faces no double teams less defensive focus and pressure and he takes on a lesser scoring load. Oh and he also played in an easier scoring era.
Manny98
06-24-2021, 07:59 PM
Dude do you just lie like this all the time? Kd is barely more efficient than mj even though he faces no double teams less defensive focus and pressure and he takes on a lesser scoring load. Oh and he also played in an easier scoring era.
KD just averaged 34ppg off 63%TS this playoffs
No player ever has attained KDs level of combined volume and efficiency, that is a fact
3ba11
06-24-2021, 08:14 PM
Kevin Durant has baby-sized hands, while MJ had big man hands at 6'6" - that's goat talent... He also has POWER that Durant lacks, both as a leaper and overall strength - as an example of Jordan's power game, he had the goat drop-step ability for a non-big man..... BY FAR... see examples in gifs here:
http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?492849-The-goat-drop-step
He's probably the goat combo leaper off 1 or 2 (https://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/46/sporting-events/mj-vs-labron-goat-super-aids-containment-thread-1338318/index632.html#post57091073) legs and has the greatest "hang-time" of all-time.. His ability to float through the air and hang on jumpshots is unique to him.. He also had goat jumpshooting form and became the greatest 2-point jumpshooter of all-time, according to the stats:
https://a.espncdn.com/photo/2020/0415/96MidrangeScatterFINAL.jpg
As a guard, he was routinely called the best post player in basketball (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SYsbx66LZbA&t=42s) during the 2nd three-peat - he's the only player that commanded a double team on the post and as the ball-handler.. This is the tip of the iceberg regarding Jordan's talent - KD is taller and shoots threes, but otherwise doesn't compare.. Jordan is also the RAPTOR plus/minus goat (https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/why-michael-jordan-was-the-best/).
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Bronbron23
06-24-2021, 08:17 PM
KD just averaged 34ppg off 63%TS this playoffs
No player ever has attained KDs level of combined volume and efficiency, that is a fact
So your using a one year in the easiest era ever as your sample size as to who is the better scorer? Nice buddy
DevBooker'sMask
06-24-2021, 09:30 PM
He's not. Jordan has ten scoring titles, no player has achieved a number close to ten.
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