View Full Version : Do you think the Luxury and repeater tax should be abolished by the NBA.
coastalmarker99
06-25-2021, 01:49 AM
While I can fully understand the logic that NBA used to decide in bringing in those two things.
It has actually hurt smaller teams and Markets as which owner is going to want to pay 400 million dollars per season as the Warriors are going to be doing next season due to the repeater tax.
Also, the Luxury tax may have screwed over the small market thunder team in 2012 from building a dynasty that could have won countless titles throughout the 2010s.
Spurs m8
06-25-2021, 01:54 AM
100%
Use the cap properly.
Make it a level playing field...
Some exceptions for rewarding players and the team that actually drafted them....otherwise no more bullshit.
No more super best friends.
coastalmarker99
06-25-2021, 01:57 AM
100%
Use the cap properly.
Make it a level playing field...
Some exceptions for rewarding players and the team that actually drafted them....otherwise no more bullshit.
No more super best friends.
The NFL is far more popular than the NBA due to small markets actually standing a chance vs the bigger markets.
Plus in the NFL smart management actually ends up rewarding your team, unlike the NBA in which no matter how good you build a team as a small market.
Your star player even then might decide to jump ship to LA or New York to form a super-team with his friends.
Spurs m8
06-25-2021, 02:00 AM
The NFL is far more popular than the NBA due to small markets actually standing a chance vs the bigger markets.
It would do a lot to close the disparity and also make things far more exciting.
Plus if players were more loyal to teams and teams were forced to be more loyal to players, we could actually get some good rivalries going again...actual rivalries in sport are so sick.
Nothing bad could come from this....except the casual fan couldn't see some shit cvnts team up
coastalmarker99
06-25-2021, 02:03 AM
It would do a lot to close the disparity and also make things far more exciting.
Plus if players were more loyal to teams and teams were forced to be more loyal to players, we could actually get some good rivalries going again...actual rivalries in sport are so sick.
Nothing bad could come from this....except the casual fan couldn't see some shit cvnts team up
The NBA would be a lot more popular to casual fans in the US if they decided to cut the season to around 58 games so each game matters more.
Plus if they actually bought back division rivalries as the NBA had in the 1980s and 1990s then more causal fans would be drawn into the game.
As nothing is better watching as a sports fan when two teams hate each other as the Bad boys and the Bulls did.
Or even as the Pacers vs New York in the 1990s with Reggie and Spike getting into it.
iamgine
06-25-2021, 02:08 AM
Isn't luxury tax actually beneficial for small market team due to NBA's revenue sharing?
Spurs m8
06-25-2021, 02:14 AM
The NBA would be a lot more popular to casual fans in the US if they decided to cut the season to around 58 games so each game matters more.
Plus if they actually bought back division rivalries as the NBA had in the 1980s and 1990s then more causal fans would be drawn into the game.
As nothing is better watching as a sports fan when two teams hate each other as the Bad boys and the Bulls did.
Or even as the Pacers vs New York in the 1990s with Reggie and Spike getting into it.
You make another great point there....shorten the reg season lol
58 is the logical number...I agree.
But the NBA won't, I don't think, due to losing dollars.
Seriously though...if they focused more on improving the actual product, the dollars will flow in...
Ref the reg season like the playoffs too...and allow D.
This is basketball...I want battles...I don't want 150 point games with players only trying on one end of the floor.
The sport is awesome and has seen some great eras...the foundation is there...now use it
coastalmarker99
06-25-2021, 02:20 AM
You make another great point there....shorten the reg season lol
58 is the logical number...I agree.
But the NBA won't, I don't think, due to losing dollars.
Seriously though...if they focused more on improving the actual product, the dollars will flow in...
Ref the reg season like the playoffs too...and allow D.
This is basketball...I want battles...I don't want 150 point games with players only trying on one end of the floor.
The sport is awesome and has seen some great eras...the foundation is there...now use it
Stats are very inflated in this era.
As I don't think many of the younger stars of the NBA at the moment such as Trae and Luka would be even close to putting the same numbers they are currently during at the moment if you put them into the 1980s or 1990s or even the early 2000s.
On another note, the NBA overreacted to how dominant the early 2000's Pistons defence was along with those Spurs teams so they decided to basically outlaw defence to turn players like Nash that were average players under the old rules into Mvps under the new rules.
You can't tell me that those suns teams from 2005 to 2007 would have been as successful as they were with their 7 seconds offence if they played under the old defensive rules from 1999 to 2004.
MrFonzworth
06-25-2021, 02:57 AM
The NFL is far more popular than the NBA due to small markets actually standing a chance vs the bigger markets.
Plus in the NFL smart management actually ends up rewarding your team, unlike the NBA in which no matter how good you build a team as a small market.
Your star player even then might decide to jump ship to LA or New York to form a super-team with his friends.
Yea that's not the reason at all and never has been. Your mind is warped and are in need of psychiatric attention immediately if you think that.
insight
02-06-2022, 12:41 PM
The NFL is far more popular than the NBA due to small markets actually standing a chance vs the bigger markets.
Plus in the NFL smart management actually ends up rewarding your team, unlike the NBA in which no matter how good you build a team as a small market.
Your star player even then might decide to jump ship to LA or New York to form a super-team with his friends.
Did it ever occur to you that the NFL is more popular because people like the sport more in the United States?
College Football is more popular than college basketball by a large margin I think you are making a correlation that doesn't exist.
The NBA is more player driven than the NFL. Most NFL Fans may know the QB and 1 or 2 other players but for the most part they are support the team and not the player. The NBA is about the star players, and they generate the TV ratings and interest.
Thenameless
02-06-2022, 02:21 PM
I think the NBA should have a hard cap that's high enough to accommodate a deep pockets owner like Portland, Clippers, and Mavericks but with no exceptions. It should be able to fit 3 max players with half-decent support after that. It shouldn't be so high that an owner could have 5 All-Stars as their starters.
Real Men Wear Green
02-06-2022, 02:42 PM
The NFL is far more popular than the NBA due to small markets actually standing a chance vs the bigger markets.
Plus in the NFL smart management actually ends up rewarding your team, unlike the NBA in which no matter how good you build a team as a small market.
Your star player even then might decide to jump ship to LA or New York to form a super-team with his friends.
The NFL's popularity is about the game itself not free agency. The violence gets people going. It's like two armies go8ng at it. Basketball is cool but it doesn't give people that.
If the NBA was serious about giving small markets a chance they would eliminate caps of any kind and then let some megabillionaire buy a team in Oklahoma and run wild. That's not what this is about. It's about the owners wanting to limit what they have to spend on players. I don't fault them for that but the only people that benefit from a team in a small market winning a ring are the people in that market. The NBA would like nothing better than to have its two biggest stars lead the Knicks and Lakers to the finals every year so that they could get all that media attention. Spurs and Jazz leading "boring" teams to the finals wasn't just about their playing style (in fact Manu and Parker were entertaining players).
Spurs m8
02-06-2022, 03:33 PM
The NFL's popularity is about the game itself not free agency. The violence gets people going. It's like two armies go8ng at it. Basketball is cool but it doesn't give people that.
If the NBA was serious about giving small markets a chance they would eliminate caps of any kind and then let some megabillionaire buy a team in Oklahoma and run wild. That's not what this is about. It's about the owners wanting to limit what they have to spend on players. I don't fault them for that but the only people that benefit from a team in a small market winning a ring are the people in that market. The NBA would like nothing better than to have its two biggest stars lead the Knicks and Lakers to the finals every year so that they could get all that media attention. Spurs and Jazz leading "boring" teams to the finals wasn't just about their playing style (in fact Manu and Parker were entertaining players).
It's not about giving small markets a chance...its about giving everyone an equal chance.
And the way to solve this is a proper cap, which spreads the stars and superstars further across the league...
Also prevents teams from stacking too much, which is the opposite of what we want, regardless of what market a team is in.
Real Men Wear Green
02-06-2022, 04:48 PM
It's not about giving small markets a chance...its about giving everyone an equal chance.
And the way to solve this is a proper cap, which spreads the stars and superstars further across the league...
Also prevents teams from stacking too much, which is the opposite of what we want, regardless of what market a team is in.
That is close to what the NBA has done and it just lead to super-teams in LA and New York. The only way to keep stars from leaving fir big markets is to either kill free agency or give home teams an astronomical advantage, bigger even than they already have. You can't get rid of free agency so you have to get rid of the cap. G State couldn't offer KD enough money to keep him from joining Irving. In reality the cap on team spending and salary led to Durant and Irving joining up in the bigger market
Spurs m8
02-06-2022, 04:58 PM
It's not really a cap though.
They say the cap is like $112m or something....yet teams actual salaries are up to around $170-180m
Who cares about luxury tax...its dumb...doesn't help the league and we have a pointless cap
Real Men Wear Green
02-06-2022, 05:16 PM
It's not really a cap though.
They say the cap is like $112m or something....yet teams actual salaries are up to around $170-180m
Who cares about luxury tax...its dumb...doesn't help the league and we have a pointless cap
The luxury tax money goes to the teams that are under the cap and the league fund in general. And this is more in line with what owners are really after which is money not parity. You are assuming that the goal is a level playing field. It is not. The goal is money. That is the real point.
Thenameless
02-06-2022, 05:42 PM
The luxury tax money goes to the teams that are under the cap and the league fund in general. And this is more in line with what owners are really after which is money not parity. You are assuming that the goal is a level playing field. It is not. The goal is money. That is the real point.
Someone gets it. Others are far too myopic.
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