WHO urges fully vaccinated people to continue to wear masks as delta Covid spreads

[keep-itreal]

https://www.cnbc.com/2021/06/25/delta-who-urges-fully-vaccinated-people-to-continue-to-wear-masks-as-variant-spreads.html

Another L for VAXXXcucks :roll:

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[ArbitraryWater]

lmaoooooo

[diamenz]

do the vaccines protect against the delta variant as far as deaths and hospitalizations, or not?

[Manny98]

Remember who was the first person to say that they're going to use the "new variants" to extend the lockdowns and to still enforce restrictions

https://media.giphy.com/media/MP1kygLQzjCve/giphy.gif

Anyways I don't wear a mask anymore anyway nobody is really enforcing it apart from a few weirdos who still believe this is the plague

[keep-itreal]

Vaxxxcucks avoiding this thread like a plague:roll:

[n00bie]

Remember who was the first person to say that they're going to use the "new variants" to extend the lockdowns and to still enforce restrictions

https://media.giphy.com/media/MP1kygLQzjCve/giphy.gif

Anyways I don't wear a mask anymore anyway nobody is really enforcing it apart from a few weirdos who still believe this is the plague

Heard the UK cases are going back up?

[n00bie]

https://www.cnbc.com/2021/06/25/delta-who-urges-fully-vaccinated-people-to-continue-to-wear-masks-as-variant-spreads.html

Another L for VAXXXcucks :roll:

https://monophy.com/media/GV3aYiEP8qbao/monophy.gif

Funny cuz our govts here just said if we are fully vaccinated, masks aren't needed and we can throw indoor parties with other fully vaccinated people.

[Manny98]

Heard the UK cases are going back up?

Testing has also rapidly gone up

Besides cases don't mean shit it's all about hospitalisations and now everyone is vaccinated hardly anyone should be getting severely sick

I don't watch the news so I am actually not sure what the current deaths per day are from Covid

[coin24]

Yep masks and lockdowns back in effect.

So much for the “vaccine”.. the one that doesn’t stop you contracting or passing the virus on, by its own definition is not even a vaccine:roll:
But yeah, line up sheep. They can’t guarantee that it works or if you can catch the virus again or not, but definitely no side effects! They thoroughly tested it for a whole 12 weeks!:roll::roll:

[Lebron23]

Testing has also rapidly gone up

Besides cases don't mean shit it's all about hospitalisations and now everyone is vaccinated hardly anyone should be getting severely sick

I don't watch the news so I am actually not sure what the current deaths per day are from Covid

You live in your basement bruh

[SATAN]

Never heard anyone say that there's a 100% chance you won't catch covid again, rather you are very less likely to get severe symptoms. It's possible you still spread it but in general the vaccines make it way harder for this thing to spread and do harm.

You're making fools out of yourselves.

[Axe]

Trolls like the poster above are more likely to contract them though. ;)

[ZenMaster]

Never heard anyone say that there's a 100% chance you won't catch covid again, rather you are very less likely to get severe symptoms. It's possible you still spread it but in general the vaccines make it way harder for this thing to spread and do harm.

You're making fools out of yourselves.

If they don't get tested, how will vaccinated people know whether or not they're spreading covid?

[Joey Turnbuckle]

First full week in Iowa with no days above 100 new COVID-19 cases since early April 2020

6 days ago

:confusedshrug:

[iamgine]

Isn't this already a known thing? Even with vaccine you have a chance to get and spread covid (much less chance but still).

What vaccines do very well are preventing severe symptoms and deaths.

[iamgine]

another thing that prevents severe symptoms and deaths is being under age 70 and not being morbidly obese or dying from cancer already. or being tested for covid and dying in a car accident a week later

The chance of severe symptoms and deaths is much lower with vaccine compared to no vaccine for almost all circumstances.

[PistonsFan#21]

Funny cuz our govts here just said if we are fully vaccinated, masks aren't needed and we can throw indoor parties with other fully vaccinated people.

Parties? You aren't allowed more than 5 people indoor, vaccinated or not. Who are you trying to fool? :roll:

[ZenMaster]

https://media.patriots.win/post/wrLlwKMY.png

[iamgine]

so instead of a 0.001 chance of dying i would have a 0.0001 chance?

cause taking untested unverified rushed out vaccines one after another after another for every single god damn variant seems like a bit more of an unnecessary risk tbh


cause sure its probly 1 in 50,000 of dying from a vaccine. but take 5 then its 1 in 10,000 lol... and those kinds of unnecessary odds are not worth accepting voluntarily

i mean... the odds of me dying from covid are only if i GET covid ( which i have and beat it quite easily ) ... and now i probly have some immunities built up anyway...


when comparing covid risks to vaccines they should be counting everyone in comparison to covid deaths. not just people infected. because everyone will take the vaccine if they had their way. while only 1 in like every 50 people will catch covid eventually
Eventually everyone will come in contact with Covid. Without vaccine, it's much easier to get infected.

Vaccine also protects against future variants more than natural infection. Like the current vaccine is still effective against the new variant. Not to mention preventing hospitalization and severe symptoms.

[SATAN]

If they don't get tested, how will vaccinated people know whether or not they're spreading covid?

:facepalm

[ZenMaster]

:facepalm

Like always, you have no idea how to answer.

[SATAN]

Your comment was so stupid it wasn't worth writing words back to you. No offense.

[ZenMaster]

Your comment was so stupid it wasn't worth writing words back to you. No offense.

Sure thing buddy, have you been tested a lot since taking vaccine injections?

It's cool that the idea of asymptomatic super spreaders is used when arguing for mask wearing:


The prominence of asymptomatic superspreaders in transmission mean universal face masking should be part of COVID-19 de-escalation strategies

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7263215/

But it's not cool to suggest that people who have gotten the vaccine can spread the virus without showing symptoms, even though it's clear now that the vaccine doesn't actually prevent you from getting covid, just makes it a lot more likely you won't show symptoms.

[SATAN]

Sure thing buddy, have you been tested a lot since taking vaccine injections?

No. I don't care if anti vaxxers die of covid passed on from me.

[ZenMaster]

No. I don't care if anti vaxxers die of covid passed on from me.

Your carelessness will be what causes a Delta Plus Plus Plus Plus variant that the vaccine won't protect against.
Walking around, letting covid sit in your body, passing it on to other vaccinated people and them doing the same. All without ever breaking infection chains, "because you were protected".


https://youtu.be/3AhddW8GMKI

[SATAN]

:oldlol:

[ZenMaster]

:oldlol:

I'd be happy to agree that asymptomatic spread isn't a thing, but it seems only the case if you're vaccinated - remarkable..


Yes, this is a very important point that vaccine developers keep in mind. And as you know, we have some vaccines, like measles, which you don't need to change at all. You make the vaccine, it works pretty much all the time. But you also have vaccines like against the influenza virus, where you have to change the structure of the vaccine every year, based on the circulating strains and WHO coordinates this global network that actually identifies which strain should be used every year.

Now for SARS-CoV-2 we're still learning, we're still observing and our knowledge is evolving. But at this point in time, most scientists believe that the vaccines that are currently in development and a couple that have been approved should provide protection against this variant and other variants because these vaccines elicit a fairly broad immune response, a host of antibodies and cell-mediated immune responses.

And so a couple of changes or mutations in the virus should not make these vaccines ineffective. But right now there are studies going on in labs around the world to actually confirm that. And in the small possibility that perhaps these are less effective against one or both of these variants, nowadays the way vaccines are developed, it will be possible actually to also change the composition of the antigens and the vaccines quite quickly.

https://www.who.int/emergencies/diseases/novel-coronavirus-2019/media-resources/science-in-5/episode-20---covid-19---variants-vaccines

[PistonsFan#21]

Eventually everyone will come in contact with Covid. Without vaccine, it's much easier to get infected.

Vaccine also protects against future variants more than natural infection. Like the current vaccine is still effective against the new variant. Not to mention preventing hospitalization and severe symptoms.

Any links or studies done that prove it? I saw multiple peer reviewed studies that shows natural immunity is just as strong if not better than 2 doses of vaccine.

[keep-itreal]

reminder iamgine made this post


One might be forgiven for thinking, "but it's only been a few months. What about side effects that would take years to show up?" Nope. With this many people vaccinated, there's nothing that will show up that hasn't already. Would be different if the sample is only a few hundreds or a thousand.

one of the dumbest poster on this board. Literally a braindead moron who believes anything CNN tells him.

[keep-itreal]

pro vaccine turds after taking their 10th variant needle by next year

https://i.gifer.com/Oihv.gif

:roll:

[Mulder]

https://www.thepubliceditor.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/04/Joes_Sniffer_Mask_Babylon_Bee.jpg

[theman93]

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[n00bie]

reminder iamgine made this post



one of the dumbest poster on this board. Literally a braindead moron who believes anything CNN tells him.

I think his argument can go both ways. Will there be side effects from the vaccine years from now? Nobody knows for certain.

Will there will long term health issues from covid? Some people have permenant lung damage but again.. nobody knows for sure.

[keep-itreal]

I think his argument can go both ways. Will there be side effects from the vaccine years from now? Nobody knows for certain.


except he didn't say that. He said he was certain there won't be any long term effects from the vaccine.

[BigKobeFan]

Another conspiracy theory proven right by trump again

[Axe]

Another conspiracy theory proven right by trump again
Yup, a hoax big enough to get biden elected indeed.

[SATAN]

that's fair. I've never cared about anyone dying that isn't my immediate family or a part of my inner circle of friends.

don't see why anyone vaccinated should care about hurting anyone. that's silly

its almost like you were trying to shock someone lol

Wow. You are the MOST edgy, bro! :rockon:

37 years old begging strangers for change online. **** outta here e-hobo. :lol

[insidehoops]

change? I demanded 1000$. that's hardly change


Going to contact your ISP tomorrow to file an abuse complaint if you don't stop f*cking with us, scumbag.

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[SATAN]

Going to contact your ISP tomorrow to file an abuse complaint if you don't stop f*cking with us, scumbag.

dsl...tor.primus.ca

:lebronamazed:

[Spurs m8]

Going to contact your ISP tomorrow to file an abuse complaint if you don't stop f*cking with us, scumbag.

dsl...tor.primus.ca

Lmfao

[FultzNationRISE]

Going to contact your ISP tomorrow to file an abuse complaint if you don't stop f*cking with us, scumbag.

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:hammertime::banana::basketball :party::dancin

[1987_Lakers]

Going to contact your ISP tomorrow to file an abuse complaint if you don't stop f*cking with us, scumbag.

dsl...tor.primus.ca

:oldlol:

[BurningHammer]

Any links or studies done that prove it? I saw multiple peer reviewed studies that shows natural immunity is just as strong if not better than 2 doses of vaccine.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/factcheck/2021/06/21/fact-check-vaccines-offer-safe-consistent-protection-covid-19/7609402002/


The claim that immunity from infection is always stronger than immunity from vaccines is PARTLY FALSE, based on our research. While natural immunity tends to last longer than vaccine immunity, experts say it depends on the pathogen. Vaccines for HPV, tetanus and pneumococcal provide stronger immunity than the disease itself. Scientists are still studying the coronavirus, but evidence from experts, public health officials and research suggests COVID-19 vaccines provide more consistent and safer protection than infection.

[Axe]

Going to contact your ISP tomorrow to file an abuse complaint if you don't stop f*cking with us, scumbag.

dsl...tor.primus.ca
:milton

[Iverson3]

Going to contact your ISP tomorrow to file an abuse complaint if you don't stop f*cking with us, scumbag.

dsl...tor.primus.ca

His parents are paying for it. Hope you teach that Jerk a lesson, and just permaban him from posting in this forum.

[ZenMaster]

What are the symptoms of COVID-19 if you’re fully vaccinated?
Generally, we saw similar symptoms of COVID-19 being reported overall in the app by people who had and hadn’t been vaccinated. However, fewer symptoms were reported over a shorter period of time by those who had already had a jab, suggesting that they were falling less seriously ill and getting better more quickly.

Here is the current ranking of COVID symptoms after 2 vaccinations:

Headache
Runny nose
Sneezing
Sore throat
Other
The previous ‘traditional’ symptoms as still outlined on the government website, such as anosmia (loss of smell), shortness of breath and fever rank way down the list, at 11, 29 and 12 respectively. A persistent cough now ranks at number 8 if you’ve had two vaccine doses, so is no longer the top indicator of having COVID.

Curiously, we noticed that people who had been vaccinated and then tested positive for COVID-19 were more likely to report sneezing as a symptom compared with those without a jab.

If you’ve been vaccinated and start sneezing a lot without an explanation, you should get a COVID test, especially if you are living or working around people who are at greater risk from the disease.

What are the symptoms of COVID-19 if you’ve had only one vaccine dose?
The ranking changes again after one dose of the vaccination as observed below:

Headache
Runny nose
Sore throat
Sneezing
Persistent cough
As we can see, after the protection from only once vaccine, one of the original indicators of a persistent cough has made the top 5 symptoms, but still comes below sneezing and a runny nose in rankings, which were previously thought to be unrelated to infection.

What are the symptoms of COVID-19 if you’re unvaccinated?
If you’ve not yet been vaccinated, then the symptoms are more recognisable to the traditional original ranking, however we can still observe some changes from when COVID-19 first appeared over a year ago.

Headache
Sore Throat
Runny Nose
Fever
Persistent cough
Loss of smell comes in at number 9 and shortness of breath comes far down the list at number 30, indicating the symptoms as recorded previously are changing with the evolving variants of the virus.

https://covid.joinzoe.com/post/new-top-5-covid-symptoms#part_1

[Manny98]

Look how they continue to move the goalposts

They literally said earlier this year that we can go back to normal once the vaccine has arrived

Now the vaccine has arrived they're basically telling us that the vaccines don't do f*ck all and we still need to wear masks and take "booster shots"

**** outta here, you have to be a complete ****ing moron if you're still buying this bullshit

[Manny98]

Going to contact your ISP tomorrow to file an abuse complaint if you don't stop f*cking with us, scumbag.

dsl...tor.primus.ca

Wtf :oldlol:

[keep-itreal]

Look how they continue to move the goalposts

They literally said earlier this year that we can go back to normal once the vaccine has arrived

Now the vaccine has arrived they're basically telling us that the vaccines don't do f*ck all and we still need to wear masks and take "booster shots"

**** outta here, you have to be a complete ****ing moron if you're still buying this bullshit

there are numerous reports about vaccinated people testing positive for COVID and yet these losers still defend the vaccine. These people are hopeless:roll:

[bladefd]

there are numerous reports about vaccinated people testing positive for COVID and yet these losers still defend the vaccine. These people are hopeless:roll:

You are clueless how vaccines work. No vaccine is 100% effective. There have been something like 20k breakthrough infections out of 150mill fully vaccinated people and tens of millions more with single vaccine.

Moderna/pfizer vaccine is not 100% effective. 99.99% with 0.01% of breakthrough infections is still a very successful vaccine.

[Manny98]

COVID-19 99.9% survival rate - Blade "Let's freak out and shut down society until we get vaccine"

Vaccine has a 99.9% success rate, hundreds of reports of people suffering serious side effects from the vaccine which hasn't even been properly tested. Blade " Who cares if a couple people die from side effects of the vaccine"

You can't make this up :facepalm

[Manny98]

there are numerous reports about vaccinated people testing positive for COVID and yet these losers still defend the vaccine. These people are hopeless:roll:

People are literally dying from taking the vaccine and this idiot is acting like it's no big deal

And if people are still getting Covid after getting vaccinated turn it doesn't even qualify as a vaccine in the first place :oldlol:

[Jasper]

Never heard anyone say that there's a 100% chance you won't catch covid again, rather you are very less likely to get severe symptoms. It's possible you still spread it but in general the vaccines make it way harder for this thing to spread and do harm.

You're making fools out of yourselves.

I was at the eye doctor today and was required to wear a mask.... hadn't worn one since the 2nd vaccine. (felt a little weird , but after a few minutes a.o.k.)
My veterinarian also requires it.

[Dbrog]

You are clueless how vaccines work. No vaccine is 100% effective. There have been something like 20k breakthrough infections out of 150mill fully vaccinated people and tens of millions more with single vaccine.

Moderna/pfizer vaccine is not 100% effective. 99.99% with 0.01% of breakthrough infections is still a very successful vaccine.

You do realize none of the vaccines have that rate. Even in labs they showed about 95% effective but real world efficacy is around 90%. Just thought I would post this since so many people misquote the effectiveness. Side note, I'm happy they do show about the same effectiveness so far with the Delta variant. No reason to lockdown again

https://www.healthline.com/health/vaccinations/pfizer-vaccine-efficacy#real-world-efficacy

[keep-itreal]

COVID-19 99.9% survival rate - Blade "Let's freak out and shut down society until we get vaccine"

Vaccine has a 99.9% success rate, hundreds of reports of people suffering serious side effects from the vaccine which hasn't even been properly tested. Blade " Who cares if a couple people die from side effects of the vaccine"

You can't make this up :facepalm

:roll::roll:

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[bladefd]

You do realize none of the vaccines have that rate. Even in labs they showed about 95% effective but real world efficacy is around 90%. Just thought I would post this since so many people misquote the effectiveness. Side note, I'm happy they do show about the same effectiveness so far with the Delta variant. No reason to lockdown again

https://www.healthline.com/health/vaccinations/pfizer-vaccine-efficacy#real-world-efficacy

Yes, those 2 vaccines are cited at 95% efficacy, but the number of breakthrough cases has been very rare. Around 0.01%.

[coin24]

:roll::roll:

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:roll::roll:

[bladefd]

Another meltdown thread.