So refs check the replay to see if Cousins elbowed Paul

[FKAri]

If they had seen that Cousins elbowed him, he gets a technical or possibly ejected. But when it's clear as day that Paul flopped, what happens? Absolutely nothing...Actually they gave Cousins a technical anyways :oldlol:

Why would players stop flopping if this is how stupid the league is going to be? Literally no consequences to flopping even when you're caught on replay! I hate this league.

[highwhey]

Mods! :mad:

[highwhey]

Real talk tho, what ever happened to that new rule years ago that they would fine flippers? :lol Did anyone even get fined?


Here is a 2012 explanation of these new rule:

https://official.nba.com/explanation-of-anti-flopping-rule/


9 years ago lol

[FKAri]

Real talk tho, what ever happened to that new rule years ago that they would fine flippers? :lol Did anyone even get fined?


Here is a 2012 explanation of these new rule:

https://official.nba.com/explanation-of-anti-flopping-rule/


9 years ago lol

Anything involving fines or earnings like that policy needs to be backed by the NBPA. Let's check who's in charge of that. (https://www.google.com/search?q=NBPA+president)

[Shogon]

Anything involving fines or earnings like that policy needs to be backed by the NBPA. Let's check who's in charge of that. (https://www.google.com/search?q=NBPA+president)

The NBA doesn't care about product integrity. They care about money. That's it. It's a lot deeper than just pinning the blame on Chris Paul or any one individual.

It's not like that Chris Paul is going to retire and suddenly the NBA is going to care about flopping.

Flopping helps lame players put up bigger stat lines. Bigger stat lines = more casual viewers.

The NBA will never take a full measure on this matter unless there is data that suggests they are losing viewers because of flopping, which likely will not happen in any meaningful and measurable way. They might continue to take half measures, as they have done in the past and even as recently as altering rules because of Trae Young's behavior, but they will never take full measures. They will never truly get rid of it.

[FKAri]

The NBA doesn't care about product integrity. They care about money. That's it. It's a lot deeper than just pinning the blame on Chris Paul or any one individual.

It's not like that Chris Paul is going to retire and suddenly the NBA is going to care about flopping, haha.

Getting rid of flopping results in a better product and is thus better for the bottom line.

[Shogon]

Getting rid of flopping results in a better product and is thus better for the bottom line.

You would think, but I would imagine it would be extremely difficult to ascertain data that definitively proves that the NBA is losing viewers because of flopping.

There was a pretty radical shift away from physical basketball after the Pistons/Pacers brawl. The process had already begun in an attempt to manufacture the next Michael Jordan and that was another event that just added rocket fuel to the process.

[FultzNationRISE]

Getting rid of flopping results in a better product and is thus better for the bottom line.

This is an application of logic. Paradoxically, however, applying logic to predict the behavior of consumers and/or the public... is illogical.

[FKAri]

This is an application of logic. Paradoxically, however, applying logic to predict the behavior of consumers and/or the public... is illogical.

This isn't a prediction of consumers being rational. It is a prediction of a rational company based on its expected prediction of consumers. Perfectly sound economics.


You would think, but I would imagine it would be extremely difficult to ascertain data that definitively proves that the NBA is losing viewers because of flopping.

There was a pretty radical shift away from physical basketball after the Pistons/Pacers brawl. The process had already begun in an attempt to manufacture the next Michael Jordan and that was another event that just added rocket fuel to the process.

Lack of physical play is a related but distinguishably separate issue. That's a good example of something that's probably bad for the game from a purist's standpoint but good for the game in terms of bottom line. However, there's no fans out there thinking, "I actually kinda like the flopping. It adds a new dimension to the game." and if there are they are vastly outnumbered by those who feel it detracts from the game.

[Norcaliblunt]

Plays like that are just funny. It’s when a player drives and jerks his body around like he’s been hit that is annoying. Paul George had a play driving in like he had Parkinson’s flopping around where the refs didn’t bite and he turned it over.

[ArbitraryWater]

shogon starface n fkari flexing their IQ's

[ArbitraryWater]

If they had seen that Cousins elbowed him, he gets a technical or possibly ejected. But when it's clear as day that Paul flopped, what happens? Absolutely nothing...Actually they gave Cousins a technical anyways :oldlol:

Why would players stop flopping if this is how stupid the league is going to be? Literally no consequences to flopping even when you're caught on replay! I hate this league.

what is the consequence?

This wasnt a flop out of contact.

This was a "selling" kind of flop.

There was still foul play by Cousins involved.

[red1]

chris paul has leverage on silver


probably caught silver clapping cheeks of his secretary and has evidence



only explanation how they let this little ****er get away with it

[Shooter]

chris paul has leverage on silver


probably caught silver clapping cheeks of his secretary and has evidence



only explanation how they let this little ****er get away with it

:lol :lol

[FKAri]

what is the consequence?

This wasnt a flop out of contact.

This was a "selling" kind of flop.

There was still foul play by Cousins involved.

They didn't even end up giving him a foul for contact. Cousins got a technical for "physical taunting".

[Shogon]

Lack of physical play is a related but distinguishably separate issue. That's a good example of something that's probably bad for the game from a purist's standpoint but good for the game in terms of bottom line. However, there's no fans out there thinking, "I actually kinda like the flopping. It adds a new dimension to the game." and if there are they are vastly outnumbered by those who feel it detracts from the game.

It's not distinguishably separate. There is definitely some overlap there.

NBA coming down harder on physical play means that non physical play is promoted which means that players are indirectly encouraged to act and sell fouls more than ever before due to the utter lack of physical defense that is allowed. It's also very difficult to officiate this sport in real time with only 3 sets of eyes on 10 players which leads to officials sometimes guessing on calls.

Why there isn't some rule on the books, however, that permits officials to just overturn calls on a replay when a guy clearly flopped, is... something I don't quite have a grasp on... perhaps it's just a general level of apathy towards the subject by all parties involved. Which is sad, but hey.

[Full Court]

Flopping needs to get a technical foul. That's the only way to fix this lame crap.

[iamgine]

I think they just weigh the act against one another. Intentional elbow to the face/neck warrants a flagrant 2. But since CP flopped so hard, and the elbow didn't connect, they reduce it to technical.

[imdaman99]

For as talented and great as he is, this is why I'll never root for Chris Paul. Hope whoever comes out of the east to win.

[999Guy]

You idiots realize he clearly went for and grazes his neck right?

If a guy shoots a gun at you and misses, it means nothing because his aim was bad?

And in this case his aim wasn’t bad. It wasn’t Ron Artest on Harden, but it was definitely something.

If you don’t think it was something you’re stupid and don’t understand the realities of 6’11 280 pounds of anger issues playing dirty against you several times throughout the game.

And also the realities of getting punked. You dummies saw what Beverley did. I guarantee you he grazes CP3 and gave little nudges and bumps on the way up to the push.

It’s typical don’t-get-bitched 101 but I obviously see what most would do in this spot. Let a guy get aggressive with you until it’s built up past something you can control.

It was a good and logical flop. Easily. You have to be an unrealistic shithead to not get that.

[ArbitraryWater]

They didn't even end up giving him a foul for contact. Cousins got a technical for "physical taunting".


im not familiar with the rule.

does physical taunting mean it couldnt be contact involved?

[Mulder]

https://youtu.be/VO1n0q6OQJ8