View Full Version : Jason terry is the real 2011 Fmvp, not dirk
Terry was the x-factor that allowed the mavs to win that series. Dirk Nowinski just got his points but the real winner was jason terry:
- he outscored Lebron when nobody expected him to, totally shifting the series
- he averaged 8 less ppg for the series, but he had 61%ts while dirk had only 54%ts, in addition to nearly doubling his ast% and apg
- terrys scoring was the real killer in that series. The first 3 games he averaged only 14 ppg and the mavs were down 1-2. Lebron was also playing ok, instead of being terrorised by terry. The next 3 games he averaged 22 ppg on 67% ts:eek:; 24 ppg on 78% ts:biggums: in the last 2 games. Mavs suddenly went 3-0... Also lebron mysteriously started playing horribly when terry went off, and averaged 15
- dirk averaged 28 ppg in the first 3 games and 24 (on 48%ts) in the last 3. His style wasnt working so Terry had to bail him out:rockon:
- the followup to the above point is that terry had 27 in the closeout g6, while dirk had only 21 and shot like crap. He also hit a dagger three over lebron in g5
In conclusion, jason terry was robbed of the 2011 Fmvp. All Iguodala fans are welcome in this thread
WhiteKyrie
07-01-2021, 03:54 PM
Easily. I said this as it happened. Dirk didn’t have an amazing Finals. Was putrid for almost three quarters of game 6, and Terry carried them.
Wade would’ve easily been Finals MVP if LeBron didn’t get locked up by old Kidd, Marion and micro JJ Barea.
Easily. I said this as it happened. Dirk didn’t have an amazing Finals. Was putrid for almost three quarters of game 6, and Terry carried them.
Wade would’ve easily been Finals MVP if LeBron didn’t get locked up by old Kidd, Marion and micro JJ Barea.
Terry deserved fmvp. I think the voting shouldve been like this:
7 votes terry
4 votes wade
0 votes dirk
tpols
07-01-2021, 04:01 PM
Terry was awesome but Dirk was commanding all the attention. He also hit all the gamewinners too. Its just not an argument. Might as well say Pippen was better than Jordan or pau was better than kobe.
Airupthere
07-01-2021, 04:01 PM
Terry deserved fmvp. I think the voting shouldve been like this:
7 votes terry
4 votes wade
0 votes dirk
Where are the votes for lebron?
WhiteKyrie
07-01-2021, 04:02 PM
Terry was awesome but Dirk was commanding all the attention. He also hit all the gamewinners too. Its just not an argument. Might as well say Pippen was better than Jordan or pau was better than kobe.
None of those guys statistically out produced their superior, the way Terry did Dirk. Jason talked shit, backed it up and led the turn around against the heavy favorite and much more talented Heat team
Airupthere
07-01-2021, 04:04 PM
None of those guys statistically out produced their superior, the way Terry did Dirk. Jason talked shit, backed it up and led the turn around against the heavy favorite and much more talented Heat team
Surely lebron would not let a little do all that in a finals series right? After he proclaimed not 7 surely?
tpols
07-01-2021, 04:05 PM
None of those guys statistically out produced their superior, the way Terry did Dirk. Jason talked shit, backed it up and led the turn around against the heavy favorite and much more talented Heat team
Terry didn't outproduce Dirk lmao. Dirk had way more combined points rebounds and assists. And gamewinners. Terry was more efficient on far less defensive attention. That's it.
tpols
07-01-2021, 04:07 PM
Dirk averaged 26 PPG. Terry 18.
Terry outproduced Dirk? What?
According to iguodala fans, 3 games of alleged defensive dominance are enough to win fmvp, so clearly 3 games of actual offensive dominance and bailouts should be sufficient as well
ELITEpower23
07-01-2021, 04:08 PM
Where are the votes for lebron?
Please see: 2012, 2013, 2015, 2016, 2020
You're welcome
ELITEpower23
07-01-2021, 04:09 PM
Terry was awesome but Dirk was commanding all the attention. He also hit all the gamewinners too. Its just not an argument. Might as well say Pippen was better than Jordan or pau was better than kobe.
Correct. OP is way off, per usual.
Airupthere
07-01-2021, 04:10 PM
Please see: 2012, 2013, 2015, 2016, 2020
You're welcome
But what happened in 2011 and 2014? They were expected to win not 7..
ELITEpower23
07-01-2021, 04:11 PM
But what happened in 2011 and 2014? They were expected to win not 7..
He didn't get any votes.
SouBeachTalents
07-01-2021, 04:12 PM
The only game Terry outplayed Dirk was Game 6, where he remarkably led the Mavs to a halftime lead on the road despite Dirk's atrocious 3 point, 1/12 first half
The only game Terry outplayed Dirk was Game 6, where he remarkably led the Mavs to a halftime lead on the road despite Dirk's atrocious 3 point, 1/12 first half
No, he outplayed him all three last games when he averaged almost the same ppg on ridiculously better efficiency. Also 1 game is more than enough for a bench player to win fmvp nowadays
Hey Yo
07-01-2021, 04:49 PM
Easily. I said this as it happened. Dirk didn’t have an amazing Finals. Was putrid for almost three quarters of game 6, and Terry carried them.
Wade would’ve easily been Finals MVP if LeBron didn’t get locked up by old Kidd, Marion and micro JJ Barea.
Terry was Wade's direct defensive assignment.
Yikes!!
ShawkFactory
07-01-2021, 04:58 PM
X factor and MVP are not the same.
X factor and MVP are not the same.
Interesting. Does that apply for every finals series
StrongLurk
07-01-2021, 05:16 PM
Terry peaked in the 2011 playoffs.
Stats vs the 11 Lakers (sweep) - 20/2/4 on 59/68/86 splits, 138 ORTG, 75.7 TS% :eek::eek:
Kobe in that same series - 23/3/2 on 46/23/80 splits, 100 ORTG, 51.9 TS%
You could argue Terry outplayed Kobe that series, although Kobe wasn't clearly drained from the three previous finals runs.
Stats vs 11 Heat (won in 6/chip) - 18/2/3 on 49/39/75 splits, 122 ORTG, 60.5 TS%
Lebron - 18/7/7 on 48/32/60 splits 102 ORTG, 54.1 TS%
ShawkFactory
07-01-2021, 05:22 PM
Interesting. Does that apply for every finals series
Very rarely do things apply to 100% of scenarios.
Most people would agree the Steph was actually the Warriors MVP in 2015.
ShawkFactory
07-01-2021, 05:23 PM
Terry peaked in the 2011 playoffs.
Stats vs the 11 Lakers (sweep) - 20/2/4 on 59/68/86 splits, 138 ORTG, 75.7 TS% :eek::eek:
Kobe in that same series - 23/3/2 on 46/23/80 splits, 100 ORTG, 51.9 TS%
You could argue Terry outplayed Kobe that series, although Kobe wasn't clearly drained from the three previous finals runs.
Stats vs 11 Heat (won in 6/chip) - 18/2/3 on 49/39/75 splits, 122 ORTG, 60.5 TS%
Lebron - 18/7/7 on 48/32/60 splits 102 ORTG, 54.1 TS%
Terry was great in 06 too
Terry peaked in the 2011 playoffs.
Stats vs the 11 Lakers (sweep) - 20/2/4 on 59/68/86 splits :eek::eek:
Stats vs 11 Heat (won in 6/chip) - 18/2/3 on 49/39/75 splits
Damn that dude was awesome. And as I showed in the OP he bailed out Dirk doing so. He deserved to the first bench player to win fmvp
Very rarely do things apply to 100% of scenarios.
Most people would agree the Steph was actually the Warriors MVP in 2015.
The voters didnt
StrongLurk
07-01-2021, 05:30 PM
Terry deserves major props for his play in 06/11, he was a very good role player and true X-factor for the Mavs.
MadDog
07-01-2021, 06:37 PM
Idk if Terry was the "Real FMVP", but there were a few games he definitely outplayed Dirk. Still, Dirk outscored Terry by 8 and outrebounded him by 8. Dirk was also the primary focus of Miami.
Idk if Terry was the "Real FMVP", but there were a few games he definitely outplayed Dirk. Still, Dirk outscored Terry by 8 and outrebounded him by 8. Dirk was also the primary focus of Miami.
You dont need to be the leading scorer and centre of defensive attention to win Fmvp nowadays
ShawkFactory
07-01-2021, 06:40 PM
The voters didnt
The voters had lebron dildos inside of them.
MadDog
07-01-2021, 06:42 PM
You dont need to be the leading scorer and centre of defensive attention to win Fmvp nowadays
Who are you referring to? Bubble LeBron? Iguodala? :confusedshrug:
Terry peaked in the 2011 playoffs.
Stats vs the 11 Lakers (sweep) - 20/2/4 on 59/68/86 splits, 138 ORTG, 75.7 TS% :eek::eek:
Kobe in that same series - 23/3/2 on 46/23/80 splits, 100 ORTG, 51.9 TS%
You could argue Terry outplayed Kobe that series, although Kobe wasn't clearly drained from the three previous finals runs.
Stats vs 11 Heat (won in 6/chip) - 18/2/3 on 49/39/75 splits, 122 ORTG, 60.5 TS%
Lebron - 18/7/7 on 48/32/60 splits 102 ORTG, 54.1 TS%
So you're also saying that a role player swept a top 12 goat in the playoffs?
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