Hypothetically if the virus truly was a hoax or basically a common cold / flu then?

[hiphopanonymous]

What was the point of world health organizations and other medical experts around the world coming up with guidelines like mask wearing? What devious ulterior motive must have been behind that! What was the point of the global race towards developing (or allegedly developing) and then procuring, and then giving out vaccinations?

What did it all mean? What was it all for? If the information we were all told were exaggerations or lies and you feel wiser than the rest of us sheep then please, tell us sheep! Tell us what it all meant! What are the consequences for all of this what have we done!?

:eek:

[bladefd]

It was all to get Biden into the White House, and for overlord Bill Gates to take over the world. Even European countries, Asian countries and African countries are all in on it. There is a connection to 5g and UFOs showing up. I think the aliens might be in on it too. Maybe Bill Gates is an alien and Biden his minion. Jesus and Trump are in a war together against the devil, who is best buddies with Bill Gates. Hillary is the devil's daughter and also involved in spreading his evil.

Crazies :roll::roll:

[000]

What was the point of world health organizations and other medical experts around the world coming up with guidelines like mask wearing? What devious ulterior motive must have been behind that! What was the point of the global race towards developing (or allegedly developing) and then procuring, and then giving out vaccinations?

What did it all mean? What was it all for? If the information we were all told were exaggerations or lies and you feel wiser than the rest of us sheep then please, tell us sheep! Tell us what it all meant! What are the consequences for all of this what have we done!?

:eek:

It was created by the pedo Satanist Deepstate to torture needle phobic people. You dumb sheeple

[hiphopanonymous]

it was engineered in a wuhon lab to either end protests in China or create enough extra mail in ballots to beat trump in all swing states

this much is obvious.its not fake and definitely harmful but not much more than the common flu. and the only reason so many older people died was because they didn't have a vaccine at the time like they do for the flu. and the vaccine was rushed out and causes heart problems so if youre young and healthy its better to not take anything and just build up immunities

the end
Very compelling! Forgive me for inquiring a bit deeper but tell us if you could in a bit more detail how anyone would KNOW leaking a global virus would affect swing states by a few percentage points (in a favorable direction, not an unfavorable one) to inch the election towards Chinas favor?

Also out of curiosity why haven't other countries thought of this before? Soviet Russia had a long history with disease research and had lots of reasons to swing elections with this tactic (if it is indeed, a valid tactic with predictable outcomes). Why didn't China also develop a vaccine first or have it ready and waiting? If the Western countries capitalized on the vaccines first didn't they ultimately win on potential financial and health gains in the end isn't it kinda silly to have allowed them this pretty substantial economic + public health victory knowing this was about to be leaked (seems like an out of control very poorly handled / thought out leak)? Shouldn't this have panned out more like the movie V for Vendetta where vaccines were known in advance so the rich get richer by having rigged the market and investments to the predicted winners? Also where did China get the idea mail in ballots could swing a US election, my parents have been doing it for years and they vote conservative so why would China think this was a thing favorable to the opposing party? Also aren't their cheaper or less risky methods for crowd control in China then leaking a virus which they never developed an answer for in advance?

Idk just curious I'm interested to hear more :)

[Manny98]

Who said it was a hoax?

It has a 99.999% survival rate for people under the age of 60

If you think we should shut down society for a entire year for a virus that has a 99.9% survival rate then that's on you

I don't agree we should have shut down society for this virus and I don't agree with the mask wearing bullshit either and I won't take the vaccine because I am young and healthy

You do you at the end of the day I have posted countless data in the Coranvirus thread. I'd advise people to take the time to actually look at things from both angles before forming your own opinions instead of writing people off as crazy conspiracy theorists just because you don't agree with their views

[hiphopanonymous]

Who said it was a hoax?

It has a 99.999% survival rate for people under the age of 60

If you think we should shut down society for a entire year for a virus that has a 99.9% survival rate then that's on you

I don't agree we should have shut down society for this virus and I don't agree with the mask wearing bullshit either and I won't take the vaccine because I am young and healthy

You do you at the end of the day I have posted countless data in the Coranvirus thread. I'd advise people to take the time to actually look at things from both angles before forming your own opinions instead of writing people off as crazy conspiracy theorists just because you don't agree with their views
What was the harm with wearing a mask?

What is the harm with getting a vaccine if you choose to do so?

From my recollection my state was never shut down but for a day or so (that day was weird I was the only vehicle driving around) as they tried to figure out the best foot forward when hospital cases first spiked - after that it was basically just wear a mask and you're fine to go about your business. Restaurants took a while to open back up to capacity that was annoying but even they've all bounced back now so at the end of the day what was the harm with these cautions?

[hiphopanonymous]

experts have already came out and said it's impossible for the virus to have been created naturally. it was scientifically proven to be engineered and the US is proven to have funded the Wuhan lab.

the meaning behind it is just speculation but it sure as hell didn't come from eating bats.

and why do entire countries have to be in on anything. the same small group of globalists control almost every country so only they really need any knowledge of it. why do you think we go into every country with a dictator and take it over while using human rights violations or nuclear activity as an excuse. it's because they need a system or government in order to corrupt a nation and install their central banking systems.

do you actually think the democrats and China are in any way shape or form separate from each other. theyre the globalists trying to unite the world into a one world government. why do you think they went from wild swinging hippies to censoring communists

imagine democrats from the 60s preaching cancel culture and strict order. imagine anyone ever being pro China. you silly f*cks don't don't have a country anymore lol
You are so woke!

[Manny98]

What was the harm with wearing a mask?

What is the harm with getting a vaccine if you choose to do so?

From my recollection my state was never shut down but for a day or so (that day was weird I was the only vehicle driving around) as they tried to figure out the best foot forward when hospital cases first spiked - after that it was basically just wear a mask and you're fine to go about your business. Restaurants took a while to open back up to capacity that was annoying but even they've all bounced back now so at the end of the day what was the harm with these cautions?
That's why I said you do you

I don't have any issue whatsoever with people wearing a mask and taking the vaccine

Freedom of choice, it should apply to both sides

[hiphopanonymous]

That's why I said you do you

I don't have any issue whatsoever with people wearing a mask and taking the vaccine

Freedom of choice, it should apply to both sides
Yeah that's exactly how it is now - so what's the big deal anymore do you still post in these threads acting bothered? Pretty sure you can just go about your business these days like normal with or without a mask and with or without a vaccine and no one will stop you.

I was more curious what peoples opinions were who think we were somehow harmed by all of this and what the devious motives must have been behind the harm

[hiphopanonymous]

death.. in some cases

but go ahead and take something that has a few months of studies on it. most vaccines take 10 years to develop
daaaaaaaang death!? The risk for getting the vaccine is death!?

That sounds devious af man! What was their motive for that!?

[keep-itreal]

What was the point of world health organizations and other medical experts around the world coming up with guidelines like mask wearing?

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EuzPeTcWQAAtHaJ?format=jpg&name=small

to expose idiots like you.

[keep-itreal]

What devious ulterior motive must have been behind that! What was the point of the global race towards developing (or allegedly developing) and then procuring, and then giving out vaccinations?


Hmm......now why would pharmaceutical companies that make billions of dollars want to develop and give out vaccinations? Why that is just impossible to figure out


:roll::roll::roll:

[hiphopanonymous]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EuzPeTcWQAAtHaJ?format=jpg&name=small

to expose idiots like you.
What's the end-game behind that? It's just a gullible tag basically? Who has anything to gain whatsoever from something so childish as test to see merely who is gullible? :lol

Wait tho - you know I had an epiphany. When you think about it... wouldn't any power that be ACTUALLY want to know who the non-compliant are? And thin out or punish those folks? I mean the compliant gullible masses are the LEAST of their concerns. It's you rogue woke folk that they are really scared of right?

Wouldn't it be a clever trick for the non-compliant to pretend to be compliant so as to blend in and avoid the powers that be from catching onto them?

Idk it almost seems like by not wearing a mask in the middle of this "test" that you put a target on your back - yikes man they may be onto you now! I hope you've prepared for this somehow! Run while you still can!

[keep-itreal]

What's the end-game behind that?

to expose idiots like you

[hiphopanonymous]

Hmm......now why would pharmaceutical companies that make billions of dollars want to develop and give out vaccinations? Why that is just impossible to figure out


:roll::roll::roll:
Why didn't they (who is in on it) develop any of the vaccine before they released the virus? I mean, at the very least to safeguard themselves? Most of these high ranking corporate heads were in the risky age range right? Also why didn't they develop it to be first and have maximum capitol gain why risk being outcompeted by the competition? Weren't there 3+ Western companies and several more from other countries racing towards vaccine development? hmmm interesting they didn't throw the odds more in their favor

[hiphopanonymous]

to expose idiots like you
Color me exposed - and everyone else who shopped at the grocery stores I was shopping at when it was mandated.

Now what? What will the devious entities in control do with this information?

[keep-itreal]

Why didn't they (who is in on it) develop any of the vaccine before they released the virus? I mean, at the very least to safeguard themselves? Most of these high ranking corporate heads were in the risky age range right? hmmm interesting

Because they know the virus is a hoax? :oldlol:

Jesus christ, it's like I have to spoonfeed you everything :oldlol:

[hiphopanonymous]

my uncle tested drugs and vaccines on chimps for 30 years. he told me not to take anything rushed out and that if I do I'm not different than the animals they had locked in cages

theres dozens of side effects for most drugs. nobody knows what these ones are ass9de from the obvious heart issues. it's not a matter of them deliberately harming people. it's just ignorance and stupidity

their ignorance and your stupidity
Welp that's it I'm sold. Your uncle must have cracked quite an egg of knowledge on you. Please tell us some examples of how vaccines in particular (drugs are different, we all know drugs are consumed and can stay in your system), have long term consequences. I'm REALLY curious what the long term consequences of some of the vaccines he told you about are.

[hiphopanonymous]

Because they know the virus is a hoax? :oldlol:

Jesus christ, it's like I have to spoonfeed you everything :oldlol:
How did "they" convince enough people that it wasn't a hoax? I mean, even us gullible masses need to see some carnage before we all start running. Haven't you ever seen a Godzilla movie? Nobody runs until it's too late we have a delayed response to danger.

So explain how they created the illusion of danger substantial enough to trick people into listening? And again... why bother with all of this?

[keep-itreal]

How did "they" convince enough people that it wasn't a hoax?

ironic that you ask this :oldlol:

You should know the answer to that question since you're absolutely convinced by their propaganda. :oldlol:

Keep embarrassing yourself, moron

[bladefd]

experts have already came out and said it's impossible for the virus to have been created naturally. it was scientifically proven to be engineered and the US is proven to have funded the Wuhan lab.

the meaning behind it is just speculation but it sure as hell didn't come from eating bats.

and why do entire countries have to be in on anything. the same small group of globalists control almost every country so only they really need any knowledge of it. why do you think we go into every country with a dictator and take it over while using human rights violations or nuclear activity as an excuse. it's because they need a system or government in order to corrupt a nation and install their central banking systems.

do you actually think the democrats and China are in any way shape or form separate from each other. theyre the globalists trying to unite the world into a one world government. why do you think they went from wild swinging hippies to censoring communists

imagine democrats from the 60s preaching cancel culture and strict order. imagine anyone ever being pro China. you silly f*cks don't don't have a country anymore lol

Link?

[Manny98]

daaaaaaaang death!? The risk for getting the vaccine is death!?

That sounds devious af man! What was their motive for that!?
I think it's population control

I have been hearing for ages how world leaders fear that they're too many people on Earth and not enough resources so they plan to try and cut down the Earth's population

Call me a crazy conspiracy nut all you want but I genuinely believe it to be the case.

[warriorfan]

Op and blade having their weekly psychotic breakdowns as they try to convince themselves that they haven’t been acting like complete nutcases.

Loving it.

[Axe]

daaaaaaaang death!? The risk for getting the vaccine is death!?

That sounds devious af man! What was their motive for that!?
Eating junk foods and smoking cigarettes are more contagious though than anything else. :ohwell:

[bladefd]

Op and blade having their weekly psychotic breakdowns as they try to convince themselves that they haven’t been acting like complete nutcases.

Loving it.

I'm not even the one starting all these covid threads. Most of them are being started by fools like you and Akrozile on his multiple alt accounts or Pattychew raging and ranting about the vaccines.

[FultzNationRISE]

I'm not even the one starting all these covid threads. Most of them are being started by fools like you and Akrozile on his multiple alt accounts or Pattychew raging and ranting about the vaccines.


Bullshit.

The only alt I use is ‘Shogon.’ But I’m completely transparent about it.

[hateraid]

Social media can dictate how we think. They even brought Crocs back to life

[Chick Stern]

Jewish Space Lasers

That is the driver if all of this

[Cleverness]

1) Still waiting for your response here:

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?477454-Official-coronavirus-news-discussion-thread&p=14275692&viewfull=1#post14275692
http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?477454-Official-coronavirus-news-discussion-thread&p=14273380&viewfull=1#post14273380

2) People who died with covid-19 lived longer than people who died without it. When was the last pandemic virus that had a median age of death above average life expectancy?

3) Excess deaths for car accidents, drug overdoses, and homicides skyrocketed in 2020. I think it's safe to say that media & gov't hysteria has caused some excess death.

4) How many lives have been saved by each of Trump's guidelines?

-Travel bans
-Social distancing
-Masks
-Mass testing & trace

5) What do you think the gov't should have done in April 2020 when field hospitals were torn down and Navy ships were sailing out due to hospitals being eerily empty?

6) Why were the hospitals emptier in 2020 than previous years? Also note that ER visits plunged 15% in 2020 compared to 2019.
http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?490193-No-Jobs-For-Doctors-Hospitals-Have-Been-Too-Empty

hiphopanonymous,

You've made some pretty strong claims, but never backed up your case here. ^




What was the harm with wearing a mask?

What was the harm with these cautions?

Are you seriously asking what are the harms of forcing, against their will, 100,000,000+ Americans to cover their face for 12+ months whenever they go out? (Why?)

Maybe you like wearing a mask (after all, it is a symbol of compliance), but to many Americans wearing a mask all day is annoying as ****, a sacrifice in QOL, and they no longer feel like they are free.

Here are a few more potential harms to consider:


One, it sets a bad precedent for science. In western medicine, we base recommendations on safety and efficacy. Tens of billions, and perhaps over 100B masks have been worn in the US since the beginning of March 2020. No known number of infections prevented thus far. Models for masks have been wildly off.

Two, humans aren't supposed to wear masks all the time. We need to see faces.

Three, a recent study showed 129 billion masks being used every month worldwide and over a billion masks will end up in marine environments:

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?493224-Study-129-000-000-000-face-masks-used-every-month


Four, forcing millions of elderly to wear them could slightly increase risk of falls.

Five, what % wear them properly in practice? How long before they dispose of them or wash? Does everyone change their surgical mask every 2-4 hours?

Six, increase potential for bacterial and fungal infections?

Seven, one study indicates that anywhere from 5-10% of the world population is affected by severe claustrophobia. How many of these people will be forced to wear a mask? Any negative effects for them?

Eight, emotional expression. Are there costs to losing the ability to emotionally express? Our emotional expressions undergird our social relationships.

Nine, increased skin irritation, miliaria (heat rashes), and acne.

Ten, resources. How much money and time will be spent on this? Who will enforce this? What should the punishment be for not adhering?

Eleven, societal impact in the west. This is a HUGE cultural change inflicted upon tens of millions who would prefer not to wear them, and not see their children forced to wear them, some having to wear them 40+ hours per week. How many have had a reduction in quality of life due to this? (Have personal freedoms ever been considered in discussions on mask mandates?)

Twelve, does anyone wearing a mask have their breathing negatively affected?

Thirteen, children. Children are potent vectors of transmitting influenza, but not Covid-19. Should they be forced to wear them? All day at school? A RCT published in JAMA showed that masking children causes hypercapnia. https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jamapediatrics/fullarticle/2781743

Fourteen, how many masks does it take to prevent 1 infection? A study in Norway showed (using the most generous assumption that they worked), based on infection rates, for every 200,000 masks worn correctly, 1 infection could be prevented.

Fifteen, How many times will something be miscommunicated because a mask is worn? Plenty of jobs require in person conversation where important details (on how to take a drug, for example) are discussed face-to-face. Wearing a mask increases the risk of important info not being understood.

Sixteen, how long will people be forced to wear them? What is the argument for not wearing them forever? What is the clear, achievable goal?

Seventeen, how many billions of dollars will the people have to pay for this forced experiment?

I honestly don't care 'that' much about mask mandates as much the rest of the pseudoscience taking place, but there are clearly a lot of downsides not even being considered w/o any clear upside.



What was the harm with these cautions?

It has cost trillions of dollars and trillions of wealth has been transferred from the middle class to the rich.

It has destroyed quality of life from tens of millions, perhaps over a hundred million Americans, for an entire year. And at least hundreds of thousands of once self-sufficient Americans (small business owners) are now dependent on gov't or big corporations.

Horrific precedents set with regard to civil liberties. As Barr puts it, the greatest theft of civil liberties in this country since slavery.

Social fabric torn apart, political divide drastically widened, and trust in gov't health institutions has plummeted.

Here are some more harms of these "cautions":

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/E5Q4akyVUAMBl2W?format=jpg&name=large

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/E5Q4cleVoAArTNe?format=jpg&name=large

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/E5Q4eXEUYAI1MjU?format=jpg&name=large

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/E5Q4hGIUcA48fAx?format=jpg&name=large

[Cleverness]

Pretty sure you can just go about your business these days like normal with or without a mask and with or without a vaccine and no one will stop you.

I was more curious what peoples opinions were who think we were somehow harmed by all of this and what the devious motives must have been behind the harm

I posted some of the harms above.

You're also wrong about "going about business these days like normal with or without a mask and no one will stop you."

Schools are still being taught online in some places, and many schools require the kids to wear masks full time.

I still have to wear a mask 40+ hours a week, and so do many other workers in this country.. And there are still places that require them (airports, for example).

Also, Trump's travel bans on China, Canada, Europe, etc are still in place. This one probably pisses me off the most at the moment, but Democrats LOVE Trump's travel bans and Republicans never question Trump, so they remain in effect.

I'm curious as to what they case was for each NPI used in March 2020, April 2020, May 2020, etc.

I'm also interested to know how many cumulative Covid-19 infections have been prevented so far by each of the following NPIs used:

-travel bans
-school closures
-business restrictions
-mask mandates
-mass testing & trace

[coin24]

Link?

This clown has completely ignored all the lies exposed when fauci was getting grilled on the stand..:lol unless it’s on cnn then it’s lies and conspiracy to this fkn idiot:roll:

The model sheep..

[Stanley Kobrick]

high iq posts from hipopanonymous and blade as always :cheers: