Deaths by covid vs deaths by flu

[oldtimer28]

Anyone have some good links to data by year per country?

I assume a bad flu season would have more deaths and hospitalisations.

This post is not intended to politicise covid. Jusr after the data from others

[Cleverness]

Cumulative deaths with Covid-19 in the US are currently at 605,000.

Cumulative deaths attributed to flu in the US for 2020-2021 season was 646.

[Cleverness]

From England/Wales

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/article-8821113/amp/The-average-age-death-coronavirus-82-4-years-writes-DAVID-ROSE.html?

The average age of people who died from Covid-19 in England and Wales since the pandemic began is 82.4 years.

That figure – computed from Office of National Statistics data by experts at Oxford University – is significantly higher than the average age reached by people recorded as dying from all other causes, which is 81.5.


https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/12886370/average-age-covid-death-82-4-years-shield-vulnerable/


Data analysed by experts at the Centre for Evidence-Based Medicine (CEBM) has revealed that the average age of deaths from the coronavirus is 82.4 years.

This is slightly higher than deaths caused by other illnesses, which has a median age of 81.5.

[Chick Stern]

I sure hate it when the flu causes me to get my foot amputated.

[Axe]

From England/Wales

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/article-8821113/amp/The-average-age-death-coronavirus-82-4-years-writes-DAVID-ROSE.html?

The average age of people who died from Covid-19 in England and Wales since the pandemic began is 82.4 years.

That figure – computed from Office of National Statistics data by experts at Oxford University – is significantly higher than the average age reached by people recorded as dying from all other causes, which is 81.5.


https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/12886370/average-age-covid-death-82-4-years-shield-vulnerable/


Data analysed by experts at the Centre for Evidence-Based Medicine (CEBM) has revealed that the average age of deaths from the coronavirus is 82.4 years.

This is slightly higher than deaths caused by other illnesses, which has a median age of 81.5.
Interesting thesis.

[oldtimer28]

Cumulative deaths with Covid-19 in the US are currently at 605,000.

Cumulative deaths attributed to flu in the US for 2020-2021 season was 646.

This seems nonsense and does not have a reputable source.

EG for what I mean,

It's complex, but statements like covid kills more than the flu are obviously false in Australia.

There was concern initially but let's simply review data.

In 2019 in Australia, 4,124 deaths by flu and pneumonia.

In 2020 and half of 2021, only 910 deaths from covid.

https://www.abs.gov.au/statistics/health/causes-death/causes-death-australia/latest-release?fbclid=IwAR00XMUCMt10qlZSms1G8_EKMqK9g3Nd5 _dn7M08Y5EHv7hChqf22tWA7bw

[coin24]

This seems nonsense and does not have a reputable source.

EG for what I mean,

It's complex, but statements like covid kills more than the flu are obviously false in Australia.

There was concern initially but let's simply review data.

In 2019 in Australia, 4,124 deaths by flu and pneumonia.

In 2020 and half of 2021, only 910 deaths from covid.

https://www.abs.gov.au/statistics/health/causes-death/causes-death-australia/latest-release?fbclid=IwAR00XMUCMt10qlZSms1G8_EKMqK9g3Nd5 _dn7M08Y5EHv7hChqf22tWA7bw



910 deaths.. of which the majority are 70+

[Cleverness]

This seems nonsense and does not have a reputable source.

It isn't nonsense and and several reputable sources of the data confirm. Here are a few:

https://coronavirus.jhu.edu/region/united-states

https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/nvss/vsrr/covid19/index.htm

https://hive.rochesterregional.org/2020/01/flu-season-2020

[MaxPlayer]

I sure hate it when the flu causes me to get my foot amputated.

You got your foot amputated?

[oldtimer28]

It isn't nonsense and and several reputable sources of the data confirm. Here are a few:

https://coronavirus.jhu.edu/region/united-states

https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/nvss/vsrr/covid19/index.htm

https://hive.rochesterregional.org/2020/01/flu-season-2020

Did you even look at the site i provided? It is the official government data. That is why it is from 2019 as the latest official causes of death by cause for Australia.

Please only provide the government approved causes of death for your or other countries.

Preferably your own as you would more likely know that.

Ps. I have appreciated many of your other posts at face value but your posts in this thread make me question your research methods and conclusions.


You are answering a different question to the one I asked. To spell it out now 2019 causes of death versus covid deaths in a year.

[j3lademaster]

Did you even look at the site i provided? It is the official government data. That is why it is from 2019 as the latest official causes of death by cause for Australia.

Please only provide the government approved causes of death for your or other countries.

Preferably your own as you would more likely know that.

Ps. I have appreciated many of your other posts at face value but your posts in this thread make me question your research methods and conclusions.


You are answering a different question to the one I asked. To spell it out now 2019 causes of death versus covid deaths in a year.
https://covid19.who.int/region/amro/country/us

And how is cdc.gov not govt approved data? Are you only looking for data you like to see or do you want the real facts here?

[72-10]

Are you referring to the Influenza Pandemic of 1918 aka the Spanish Flu: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spanish_flu?

[coin24]

Cumulative deaths with Covid-19 in the US are currently at 605,000.

Cumulative deaths attributed to flu in the US for 2020-2021 season was 646.

When you’re finished melting down remember that only 6% of the US deaths were from actual Covid...

[Cleverness]

When you’re finished melting down remember that only 6% of the US deaths were from actual Covid...

I believe the stat was 6% weren't also dying from other illnesses per death certificate... could be due to lazy clinicians not writing other causes on the death cert.

The most important death stat is the median age of death (~80 years old); above average life expectancy.

On average, people who died with Covid lived longer than people who died without it.

[coin24]

I believe the stat was 6% weren't also dying from other illnesses per death certificate... could be due to lazy clinicians not writing other causes on the death cert.

The most important death stat is the median age of death (~80 years old); above average life expectancy.

On average, people who died with Covid lived longer than people who died without it.


Or it was to blatantly inflate the numbers.


No shit. This whole thing shouldn’t even matter to anyone under 70. Vaccinate the old farts and move on already

[warriorfan]

I sure hate it when the flu causes me to get my foot amputated.

That was because of your diabetes bro.

[oldtimer28]

https://covid19.who.int/region/amro/country/us

And how is cdc.gov not govt approved data? Are you only looking for data you like to see or do you want the real facts here?


You must be joking or not well educated. Look at the site I provided. The data provided and its presentation.

CDC and WHO are compromised and even if they weren't. They cherrypicked/slanted the data and are obviously left biased like you. Nonetheless, I still tried to get data from 2019 flu deaths and could not find them. No, comparing since Covid is tainted. Ideally I would have 2009-2019 flu deaths per country per year.

I clearly posted this originally or tried to, just for the data in the same format. Even if I am wrong about the above, no one actually posted the data or reputable links to what I requested.

[Manny98]

I sure hate it when the flu causes me to get my foot amputated.

What?

[jstern]

What?

Her foot was amputated.

[Axe]

I sure hate it when the flu causes me to get my foot amputated.
Trump will be held liable for this.

[72-10]

I sure hate it when the flu causes me to get my foot amputated.

Hopefully not by means of a bowling pin.

[Cleverness]

Some numbers on flu vs covid deaths in pediatrics (< 17 years old).

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/E5yqQvmXIAYPVuv?format=png&name=medium

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/E5yqQvmXIAYPVuv?format=png&name=medium

An estimated 1,161 pediatric deaths from flu during the 2012-13 season.

vs an estimated 216 pediatric deaths with Covid from 2019 through 2021.

[Lakers Legend#32]

C'mon MAGAs all you have to do is take the vaccine.
Just like Trump did back in January.

[Cleverness]

C'mon MAGAs all you have to do is take the Trump vaccine.

Why do they have to? Why do you want them to take it so badly?

[72-10]

C'mon MAGAs all you have to do is take the vaccine.
Just like Trump did back in January.

just imagine some mentally deranged person not taking the vaccine because they forgot it even exists

some people would rather guess what their future holds in store

[Lakers Legend#32]

MAGAs are willing to die for Trump than get vaccinated.

[Chick Stern]

Why do they have to? Why do you want them to take it so badly?
Why do you want them to not take it so badly?

[Axe]

C'mon MAGAs all you have to do is take the vaccine.
Just like Trump did back in January.
I seriously bet they're the same mouth breathers who wear this shirt

https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTY6MzxgMvQoY-almZ0_pagUxx_7bTWtYCK-A&usqp=CAU

[Lakers Legend#32]

Covid 19 Employee of the Month:
Ron Deathsantis

[Cleverness]

Why do you want them to not take it so badly?

I never said that I want them not to take it.

[72-10]

I never said that I want them not to take it.

They just might get dead first.

[theman93]

Covid 19 Employee of the Month:
Ron Deathsantis

Don't disrespect the GOAT

https://www.gannett-cdn.com/presto/2020/09/28/NPPP/78022c29-da3a-4189-8e4b-f172a2f447ee-Trump.jpg?crop=4133,2625,x628,y0

[BurningHammer]

They just might get dead first.

I'm worried they would get others around them dead before themselves.

[Lakers Legend#32]

Conservatives are more upset with mass vaccinations than they are with mass shootings.

[Cleverness]

Conservatives are more upset with mass vaccinations than they are with mass shootings.

Which conservatives on here are upset that people are getting vaccinated?

[72-10]

I'm worried they would get others around them dead before themselves.

Distinct possibility. Let me aks you - why wouldn't it be both. Are they truly that special.

[Lakers Legend#32]

Deathsantis, Moscow Mitch and Fred Flintstone (Hannity) are urging their supporters to get vaccinated.
In other words, they are lawyering up.

[Lakers Legend#32]

Forget the Delta Variant. Call this what it is.
The MAGA Variant.