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coastalmarker99
07-02-2021, 12:49 AM
Here is a video showing off Wilt's insane speed.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R6sQhV7ipks

I decided to use only NBA clips, without his more famous college footage and It's unbelievable how fast Wilt was at 7'1 and 290-315 lbs



If you gave Wilt the PEDs and fancy shoes of today instead of chuck Taylors you would see an utter monster unrivalled in NBA history.

coastalmarker99
07-02-2021, 12:54 AM
The more footage we get of a prime Wilt shows that he was a top elite decathlon type athlete that could have been great at any sport he had chosen to play in.

Hell, he is in the volleyball Hof and he only picked up that sport in the last couple of years of his career.

coastalmarker99
07-02-2021, 01:04 AM
Can you imagine how people would react to a player today that is just as quick as Lebron and also stronger than Shaq plus also has a 40 vertical jump as a seven-footer



People would be losing their minds.





There is this backward notion today by some people that LeBron is the "most remarkable physical specimen the game has ever known"



Wilt isn't necessarily the best player ever but he very certainly is the greatest athlete and dominant physical presence in NBA history without a shadow of a doubt.

coastalmarker99
07-02-2021, 01:08 AM
why was he the 5th leading scorer on the sixers when they won

Who cares as he put up 21/29/9/9 with I think 4 or 6 quadruple doubles over the course of an entire playoff run while also beating the greatest dynasty in NBA history in 5 games....yet you only choose to focus on his ppg ....

coastalmarker99
07-02-2021, 01:15 AM
why was he the 5th leading scorer on the sixers when they won

Great, you found one single thing. Might even find a handful more if you try to dive into some other nuances.

However, if you were being fully honest or objective about Wilt and attempted to acknowledge the number of things that Wilt did that your hero Kobe never did just for objectivity sake.




That list would be exhaustive by comparison. Wilt is a clear cut GOAT candidate to all who saw him play Kobe isn't. And there are exponentially more things that Wilt did that Kobe never did than the other way around.

coastalmarker99
07-02-2021, 01:19 AM
why was he the 5th leading scorer on the sixers when they won


Here are Wilt stats in the 1967 NBA FINALS when he was the 5th leading scorer on the Sixers in the finals when they won the title in six games.

GAME 1 16 PTS 33 REBS 10 ASTS 10 BLKS 75% FG

GAME 2 10 PTS 38 REBS 10 ASTS 10 BLKS 40% FG

GAME 3 26 PTS 26 REBS 5 ASTS 8 BLKS 52 % FG

GAME 4 10 PTS 27 REBS 8 ASTS 15 BLKS 50 % FG

GAME 5 20 PTS 24 REBS 4 ASTS 13 BLKS 60 % FG

GAME 6 24 PTS 23 REBS 4 ASTS 14 BLKS 61 % FG

NBA FINALS AVERAGE 17.6 PTS 28.5 REBS 6.8 ASTS 11.6 BLKS 56%FG


If a player gives you 2 quadruple doubles in the finals along with 5 triple-doubles then I am sure that his teammates wouldn't care at all that he is the 5th leading scorer on the team as long as they win the title.

coastalmarker99
07-02-2021, 01:28 AM
1. where the hell are you getting those block numbers?



2. wilt averaged 17/7.. don't care about his inflated rebounding numbers. lets call it 12 k

so 17/12/7 ... solid


but 4 guys still outscored you... thats a draymond ring at best

Wilt is arguably the greatest 7 foot defensive center in NBA history. The late, great Harvey Pollack did keep track of blocked shots when Wilt played for the Warriors/76ers, and despite the 76ers in the 1980s later discarding a good number of those statistics that Pollack kept in his notebooks he estimated that the Big Dipper averaged 8-12 blocks a game during his prime years.



In Chamberlain's last 2 seasons with the 76ers and his 5 years with Lakers, sportswriters (e.g., UPI, AP, Sixer/Laker beat writers) were being more diligent about keeping track of blocked shots. This was especially the case in the playoffs. Examples include...

1967 PLAYOFFS 21.7 PTS 29.1 REBS 9.0 ASTS 9.2 BLKS FG% 57.9

1968 PLAYOFFS 23.7 PTS 24.7 REBS 6.5 ASTS 9.7 BLKS FG% 53.4

1969 PLAYOFFS 13.9 PTS 24.7 REBS 2.6 ASTS 8.5 BLKS FG% 54.5

1971 PLAYOFFS 18.3 PTS 20.2 REBS 4.4 ASTS 6.0 BLKS FG% 45.5

1973 PLAYOFFS 10.4 PTS 22.5 REBS 3.5 ASTS 6.9 BLKS FG% 55.2

coastalmarker99
07-02-2021, 01:31 AM
1. where the hell are you getting those block numbers?



2. wilt averaged 17/7.. don't care about his inflated rebounding numbers. lets call it 12 k

so 17/12/7 ... solid


but 4 guys still outscored you... thats a draymond ring at best


Please if anyone has a Draymond ring then that is Kobe in 2000 as he was basically worthless in those finals as he watched Shaq carry both him and the Lakers on his back to the title.




To average 15 points per game on 36 percent shooting and 41 TS as the second option for an entire finals series is disgusting, to say the least.

Reggie43
07-02-2021, 01:35 AM
https://youtu.be/f1i8K-u0yFo

coastalmarker99
07-02-2021, 01:38 AM
https://youtu.be/f1i8K-u0yFo


David in this era would play the same type of game as Giannis.

coastalmarker99
07-02-2021, 01:41 AM
One thing is for sure, I will never stan for this...

2000 - 15.6 ppg | 39 fg%
2001 - 24 ppg | 41.5 fg% | 50 TS%
2002 - 27 ppg | 51 fg% | 62 TS% elite
2004 - 23 ppg | 38 fg% | 46 TS% garbage
2008 - 26 ppg | 40.1 fg% | 50.5 TS%
2009 - 32 ppg | 43 fg% | 52.5 TS%
2010 - 29 ppg | 40.1 fg% | 52.8 TS%


One or two good finals for Kobe in 7 attempts is not impressive at all.

SouBeachTalents
07-02-2021, 01:42 AM
One thing is for sure, I will never stan for this...

2000 - 15.6 ppg | 39 fg%
2001 - 24 ppg | 41.5 fg% | 50 TS%
2002 - 27 ppg | 51 fg% | 62 TS% elite
2004 - 23 ppg | 38 fg% | 46 TS% garbage
2008 - 26 ppg | 40.1 fg% | 50.5 TS%
2009 - 32 ppg | 43 fg% | 52.5 TS%
2010 - 29 ppg | 40.1 fg% | 52.8 TS%


One or two good finals for Kobe in 7 attempts is not impressive at all.
His elimination game numbers are even worse

1987_Lakers
07-02-2021, 01:50 AM
how many rings did wilt chamberlain win with a broken hand, sprained ankle, torn knee, torn shoulder and food poisoning


cause i can back a guy who wins 5 under those conditions you fake cop wannabe f*ggot

https://cdn.bleacherreport.net/images_root/slides/photos/000/395/681/shaq_kobe_jpg_original.jpg?1284525462

1987_Lakers
07-02-2021, 01:56 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N_rRScSLnGY

"Please don't leave me Shaq, I need you, I'm sorry."

coastalmarker99
07-02-2021, 02:14 AM
Wilt actually won a ring and finals MVP in 1972 with a broken hand you jackass.

He posted (24/29/8/8) in game 5 with a broken hand to win LA its first title in LA.






https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZF9LkwdiLe8

coastalmarker99
07-02-2021, 02:16 AM
It's sad to think that Wilt with a broken hand had a better single finals game performance then Kobe ever did in his seven finals.

(24/29/8/8) on 71 percent shooting with a broken hand in a finals closeout game while holding his matchup in HOFer Jerry Lucas to 14 points and 9 rebounds on 5-14 shooting is just awesome.

Overdrive
07-02-2021, 04:04 AM
Here is a video showing off Wilt's insane speed.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R6sQhV7ipks

I decided to use only NBA clips, without his more famous college footage and It's unbelievable how fast Wilt was at 7'1 and 290-315 lbs



If you gave Wilt the PEDs and fancy shoes of today instead of chuck Taylors you would see an utter monster unrivalled in NBA history.

First two clips are ok. 3rd is already sped up when he runs.

nayte
07-02-2021, 05:14 AM
It's sad to think that Wilt with a broken hand had a better single finals game performance then Kobe ever did in his seven finals.

(24/29/8/8) on 71 percent shooting with a broken hand in a finals closeout game while holding his matchup in HOFer Jerry Lucas to 14 points and 9 rebounds on 5-14 shooting is just awesome.

Lebron with a broken hand >wilt

HBK_Kliq_2
07-02-2021, 05:39 AM
Who cares as he put up 21/29/9/9 with I think 4 or 6 quadruple doubles over the course of an entire playoff run while also beating the greatest dynasty in NBA history in 5 games....yet you only choose to focus on his ppg ....

So wilt never had a title run like 2019 kawhi leonard when he was the clear cut top scorer? I figured he would have considering how good of an athlete he was.

732 total points on 62% TS in a title run for 2019 kawhi and was by far the top scorer and usage player.

coastalmarker99
07-02-2021, 05:45 AM
So wilt never had a title run like 2019 kawhi leonard when he was the clear cut top scorer? I figured he would have considering how good of an athlete he was.

732 total points on 62% TS in a title run for 2019 kawhi and was by far the top scorer and usage player.


Great, you found one single thing. Might even find a handful more if you try to dive into some other nuances.

However, if you were being fully honest or objective about Wilt and attempted to acknowledge the number of things that Wilt did that Kawhi never did just for objectivity sake.




That list would be exhaustive by comparison. Wilt is a clear cut GOAT candidate to all who saw him play Kawhi isn't even a top 25 player of all time yet.

And there are exponentially more things that Wilt did that Kawhi never did than the other way around.


Plus that 2019 ring would have never happened for Kawhi if not for KD and Klay getting hurt.



Also, Kawhi is a coward who refuses to play and needs load management to stay healthy when he actually decides to play.

HBK_Kliq_2
07-02-2021, 05:56 AM
Great, you found one single thing. Might even find a handful more if you try to dive into some other nuances.

However, if you were being fully honest or objective about Wilt and attempted to acknowledge the number of things that Wilt did that Kawhi never did just for objectivity sake.




That list would be exhaustive by comparison. Wilt is a clear cut GOAT candidate to all who saw him play Kawhi isn't even a top 25 player of all time yet.

And there are exponentially more things that Wilt did that Kawhi never did than the other way around.


Plus that 2019 ring would have never happened for Kawhi if not for KD and Klay getting hurt.



Also, Kawhi is a coward who refuses to play and needs load management to stay healthy when actually decides to play.

Injuries are part of the game.

Giannis is pretty much this era's wilt since 2019 and kawhi was the only player to eliminate Giannis.

Also eliminated curry who is a better point guard then wilt ever played against. Like already said, wilt was never a clear cut scorer of a championship team! He was a choker who cared more about himself, his stats, going to bars and banging girls. He wasn't a team player.

2019's kawhi playoff run > wilt 1967 playoff run because kawhi was the clear cut #1 scoring option

2014 kawhi > 1972 wilt because kawhi didn't have anybody on his team as good as Jerry west

So kawhi has already surpassed wilt's two biggest accomplishments, the rest of his career consisted of counting his stats and being an asshole.

Just my opinion though, I know you like wilt.

coastalmarker99
07-02-2021, 06:03 AM
Injuries are part of the game.

Giannis is pretty much this era's wilt since 2019 and kawhi was the only player to eliminate Giannis.

Also eliminated curry who is a better point guard then wilt ever played against. Like already said, wilt was never a clear cut scorer of a championship team! He was a choker who cared more about himself, his stats, going to bars and banging girls. He wasn't a team player.

2019's kawhi playoff run > wilt 1967 playoff run because kawhi was the clear cut #1 scoring option

2014 kawhi > 1972 wilt because kawhi didn't have anybody on his team as good as Jerry west

So kawhi has already surpassed wilt's two biggest accomplishments, the rest of his career consisted of counting his stats and being an asshole.

Just my opinion though, I know you like wilt.


Kawhi is the perfect example of not being a team player as he fakes being hurt and he is also a total diva with his demands.


At least with Wilt, he was willing to play through serious injuries for his teammates, unlike Kawhi who is soft.


Also Giannis is not the modern day Wilt as he plays nothing like him

HBK_Kliq_2
07-02-2021, 06:14 AM
Today's era you can just hack wilt chamberlain every play and chuck up 3's every play and then you will beat him hahahaha :roll: :lol

"Ben Wilt Simmons"

coastalmarker99
07-02-2021, 06:27 AM
Today's era you can just hack wilt chamberlain every play and chuck up 3's every play and then you will beat him hahahaha :roll: :lol

"Ben Wilt Simmons"


At least Wilt would be able to get on to the court in today's era, unlike Kawhi who is an injury, prone coward.



Enjoy watching him get hurt again next year HBK like he was in 2018 and 2017 and now 2021 hahahaha:lol

getting_old
07-02-2021, 12:59 PM
why was he the 5th leading scorer on the sixers when they won


his endless psychodrama led him to want the assists title, so he passed up uncontested baskets just for a chance at a dime, Wilt being Wilt

never knew what was going on in his head, except it wasn't about winning clutch games

coastalmarker99
07-03-2021, 12:51 AM
What should make people think Wilt would be dominating today's NBA too is that he's a freak athlete in this era as well.

Height: 7'1
Weight: 290-320 pounds (depends on which year)
7'8 wingspan (he was only officiated measured in a suit however. Legend has it that it's likely 2 inches more)
9'7.5 standing reach.

Imagine somebody of that physical profile, that is also a track star, ridiculous vertical leap, gifted passer (lead the league in assists one year) and with a gifted touch around the rim on the offensive end. Not only that but on defence, a center that is truly capable of guarding 1-5 with his size, length and speed combined. The only current NBA player that could rival him in terms of athleticism is Giannis. Yet physically, he even towers over him.

Giannis in comparison:

Height: 6'11
Weight: 242 pounds
Wingspan: 7'3
Standing reach: 9'2

I have yet to see any player at his position to come along with his combined strength, size and athleticism. Let alone the skills Wilt had on offence and defence.

Micku
07-03-2021, 07:08 AM
What should make people think Wilt would be dominating today's NBA too is that he's a freak athlete in this era as well.

Height: 7'1
Weight: 290-320 pounds (depends on which year)
7'8 wingspan (he was only officiated measured in a suit however. Legend has it that it's likely 2 inches more)
9'7.5 standing reach.

Imagine somebody of that physical profile, that is also a track star, ridiculous vertical leap, gifted passer (lead the league in assists one year) and with a gifted touch around the rim on the offensive end. Not only that but on defence, a center that is truly capable of guarding 1-5 with his size, length and speed combined. The only current NBA player that could rival him in terms of athleticism is Giannis. Yet physically, he even towers over him.

Giannis in comparison:

Height: 6'11
Weight: 242 pounds
Wingspan: 7'3
Standing reach: 9'2

I have yet to see any player at his position to come along with his combined strength, size and athleticism. Let alone the skills Wilt had on offence and defence.

From the games that I seen, I think his skills were less impressive than guys like Willis Reed or Kareem with footwork and shooting touch. But his athleticism and defense really does beat them all. Wilt is skilled, but I felt like those guys were more so. With that said, Wilt was the better scorer and the better talent. Even though Wilt tried to be more of a finesse player, I think his playstyle would change depending on which era he'll play. But he has the versatility to do so. He proved it back then too when he scored less, even though he could score more.

Even now, like you said, he is probably the most athletic nba player.