Bladefd -"No one has died from the COVID vaccine" Oh really? [Archive] - Message Board Basketball Forum

keep-itreal

07-02-2021, 12:53 PM

https://www.freep.com/story/news/2021/07/02/jacob-clynick-pfizer-covid-vaccine/5323095001/

Michigan boy dies 3 days after getting Pfizer COVID-19 vaccine, CDC is investigating

Jacob was healthy, she said, and had no known underlying medical conditions. He was looking forward to starting classes in the fall as a freshman at Carrollton High School.

He complained of common post-vaccine symptoms, she said, in the two days between his immunization and death, which included fatigue and fever.

On the night of June 15, he had a bit of a stomach ache, too, but it wasn't severe enough to cause serious concern, Burages said.

Jacob went to sleep that night, and never woke up.

"He passed away in the middle of the night at home," she said.
The family was told that preliminary autopsy findings suggest Jacob's heart was enlarged when he died and there was fluid around his heart, Burages said.

https://childrenshealthdefense.org/defender/13-year-old-jacob-clynick-dies-pfizer-vaccine-myocarditis/

https://childrenshealthdefense.org/wp-content/uploads/Jacob-Clynick-Pfizer-Covid-vaccine-death-feature-800x417.jpg
https://childrenshealthdefense.org/wp-content/uploads/Tammy-Burages-vaccine-card-Clynick-1170x601-1-1024x526.jpg

bladef@gd be like....."uhhh that means the vaccine is working durr" :facepalm

BigKobeFan

07-02-2021, 01:09 PM

My brother got full blown shingles from taking the vaccine. He took 1 dose and full blown shingles for a month. **** this shit.

BigKobeFan

07-02-2021, 01:10 PM

https://www.freep.com/story/news/2021/07/02/jacob-clynick-pfizer-covid-vaccine/5323095001/

https://childrenshealthdefense.org/defender/13-year-old-jacob-clynick-dies-pfizer-vaccine-myocarditis/

https://childrenshealthdefense.org/wp-content/uploads/Jacob-Clynick-Pfizer-Covid-vaccine-death-feature-800x417.jpg
https://childrenshealthdefense.org/wp-content/uploads/Tammy-Burages-vaccine-card-Clynick-1170x601-1-1024x526.jpg

bladef@gd be like....."uhhh that means the vaccine is working durr"

Blade is up there on the retard level with kabar and jasper

Patrick Chewing

07-02-2021, 01:15 PM

People like blade have blood on their hands.

Objectivity

07-02-2021, 01:24 PM

post hoc ergo propter hoc logical fallacy

bladefd

07-02-2021, 01:29 PM

Another covid-related thread from someone melting down.

keep-itreal

07-02-2021, 01:34 PM

Another covid-related thread from someone melting down.

Another meltdown thread started by someone obsessed with covid.

Another meltdown thread.

you okay there, babyboi? Cause it seems like you're having a meltdown right now :oldlol:

https://64.media.tumblr.com/819c4fae134dc9a125dfdde341d257b7/d4ed2f654d61a9d7-2d/s250x400/5afaf47267041a2ac8fabba0ba8c87cc0377f4a5.jpg

BigKobeFan

07-02-2021, 01:38 PM

you okay there, babyboi? Cause it seems like you're having a meltdown right now :oldlol:

https://64.media.tumblr.com/819c4fae134dc9a125dfdde341d257b7/d4ed2f654d61a9d7-2d/s250x400/5afaf47267041a2ac8fabba0ba8c87cc0377f4a5.jpg:roll:

warriorfan

07-02-2021, 01:44 PM

Show me the proof!!!! It was Donald Trumps fault!

coin24

07-02-2021, 02:42 PM

Manny98

07-02-2021, 02:58 PM

Cleverness

07-02-2021, 03:34 PM

Per the CDC and their COVID-19 Vaccine safety updates (link (https://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:WYhcFkA3Fz8J:https://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/acip/meetings/downloads/slides-2021-06/03-COVID-Shimabukuro-508.pdf+&cd=1&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us))

for every 1,000,000 Covid-19 vaccinations in 12-17 year olds, 200 hospitalizations & 1 death from Covid-19 would be prevented.

for every 1,000,000 Covid-19 vaccinations in 12-15 year olds & 16-25 year olds, 3000 events in which medical care in ER/hospital would occur from vaccination.

rawimpact

07-02-2021, 04:23 PM

Norcaliblunt

07-02-2021, 04:41 PM

All y’all anti vaxxers won’t go all the way though. You know actually accept that germ and viral theory in it’s entirety is BS.

Chick Stern

07-02-2021, 07:16 PM

My brother got full blown shingles from taking the vaccine. He took 1 dose and full blown shingles for a month. **** this shit.

Shingles come from the chicken pox virus.

ps - that kid had moobs

BigKobeFan

07-02-2021, 08:45 PM

All y’all anti vaxxers won’t go all the way though. You know actually accept that germ and viral theory in it’s entirety is BS.

Its not anti vaxxing. Its anti covid vaccine. Its an experimental vaccine that was pushed due to politics

bladefd

07-02-2021, 09:45 PM

Just one thing I would like to add to expose the OP.

The post he is citing and intentionally misquoted is this (in reference to the rare heart inflammation):

Those are extremely rare and minor side effects and nobody has died from it.

Covid, many people have died from. If your argument is that we don't know the long-term side effects of the vaccines, you don't know the long-term side effects of covid either with lungs scarring and breathing issues that people have had.
http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?495308-FDA-to-add-warning-about-rare-heart-inflammation-to-Pfizer-Moderna-vaccines&p=14379778&viewfull=1#post14379778

Yes, it's true that nobody has died from the rare heart inflammation. OP has no credibility and shouldn't be taken seriously.

SATAN

07-02-2021, 10:08 PM

Its not anti vaxxing. Its anti covid vaccine. Its an experimental vaccine that was pushed due to politics

You are one of the dumbest people I have ever come across.

BigKobeFan

07-02-2021, 10:19 PM

You are one of the dumbest people I have ever come across.

Ok blade

Manny98

07-03-2021, 07:38 AM

A 12 year old girl Maddie suffered severe memory loss and is now consigned to a wheelchair after getting Pfizer’s COVID-19 vaccine.

https://greatgameindia.com/12-year-memory-loss-wheelchair-vaccine/

Who cares tho she didn't die :facepalm

Norcaliblunt

07-03-2021, 05:27 PM

Its not anti vaxxing. Its anti covid vaccine. Its an experimental vaccine that was pushed due to politics

Exactly! You’re view is only political. If you really knew wuz up, you’d know that all vaccines and germ theory is BS.

n00bie

07-03-2021, 10:46 PM

Its not anti vaxxing. Its anti covid vaccine. Its an experimental vaccine that was pushed due to politics

I decided to take the vaccine but I do not look down on people that think like you. Other vaccines have been around for decades while the covid19 vaccine was rushed out quickly.

Anti-vaxxers are definitely not the same as anti-covid19 vaccines.

Axe

07-04-2021, 03:27 AM

Funny how they call others sheep if they believe what the news tell them.

BurningHammer

07-06-2021, 03:01 AM

Funny how they call others sheep if they believe what the news tell them.
The Fox News shits they are watching is not even news.

Axe

07-06-2021, 04:57 AM

The Fox News shits they are watching is not even news.
Heh lol

Manny98

07-06-2021, 08:01 AM

13-Year-Old Dies in Sleep After Receiving Pfizer COVID Vaccine; CDC Investigating
https://www.newsweek.com/13-year-old-dies-sleep-after-receiving-pfizer-covid-vaccine-cdc-investigating-1606529

Manny98

07-06-2021, 08:02 AM

Boy, 16, had cardiac arrest after exercise following 1st Pfizer vaccine dose
https://news.yahoo.com/boy-16-cardiac-arrest-exercis-covid-vaccine-110750152.html

FKAri

07-06-2021, 05:49 PM

Someone died AFTER getting the vaccine? How's that possible? I thought it made you immortal.

Axe

07-06-2021, 07:57 PM

Boy, 16, had cardiac arrest after exercise following 1st Pfizer vaccine dose
https://news.yahoo.com/boy-16-cardiac-arrest-exercis-covid-vaccine-110750152.html
They said these vaccines are qualified for people with ages 18 and above.

RoseCity07

07-08-2021, 05:49 AM

ZenMaster

07-08-2021, 07:49 AM

I just got the Pfizer yesterday. It wasn't bad but now my arm is pretty sore. Looking at that news story that kid looks like he has genetic issues. You can't vaccinate millions of people and expect no one to die around their vaccination window. If a million people drink orange juice tomorrow. A few will die within that a day or two. That doesn't mean orange juice killed them.

So if someone made the statement that Covid deaths themselves are inflated, you'd also agree?

Covid deaths worldwide have been registered as anyone dying within 30 days of testing positive, and a lot of elderlies and people at risk have been tested over and over again.

You also have re-test, which used to be a big thing when everyone was trying to make sure they didn't have covid. There's guy here on ISH who tested positive, then had to quarantine until testing negative. He tested positive two more times within the quarantine period and all counted as a newly detected case of covid.

Cleverness

07-08-2021, 01:17 PM

So if someone made the statement that Covid deaths themselves are inflated, you'd also agree?

Covid deaths worldwide have been registered as anyone dying within 30 days of testing positive, and a lot of elderlies and people at risk have been tested over and over again.

You also have re-test, which used to be a big thing when everyone was trying to make sure they didn't have covid. There's guy here on ISH who tested positive, then had to quarantine until testing negative. He tested positive two more times within the quarantine period and all counted as a newly detected case of covid.

Yes.

Here's the data on death rates by age in the UK:

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/E5yjr6hVcAUa_b7?format=jpg&name=900x900

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/E5yjr6hVcAUa_b7?format=jpg&name=900x900

On average, people who died with Covid-19 lived longer than people who died without it. I believe this is the first "pandemic" virus that fits this description.

This also lines up with the CDCs estimated benefits of the vaccine I posted earlier:

Per the CDC and their COVID-19 Vaccine safety updates (link (https://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:WYhcFkA3Fz8J:https://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/acip/meetings/downloads/slides-2021-06/03-COVID-Shimabukuro-508.pdf+&cd=1&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us))

for every 1,000,000 Covid-19 vaccinations in 12-17 year olds, 200 hospitalizations & 1 death from Covid-19 would be prevented.

for every 1,000,000 Covid-19 vaccinations in 12-15 year olds & 16-25 year olds, 3000 events in which medical care in ER/hospital would occur from vaccination.

bladefd

07-08-2021, 02:42 PM

I just got the Pfizer yesterday. It wasn't bad but now my arm is pretty sore. Looking at that news story that kid looks like he has genetic issues. You can't vaccinate millions of people and expect no one to die around their vaccination window. If a million people drink orange juice tomorrow. A few will die within that a day or two. That doesn't mean orange juice killed them.

There have also always been breakthrough cases for those fully vaccinated for every vaccine ever created. The whole argument by fools like manny and nanners of a 20,000 cases of people getting covid after the vaccine and claiming the vaccines are useless is a horrendous argument. Find me a vaccine with no breakthrough cases - there is no such thing. Every single vaccine has had a small percentage of breakthrough cases. Not vaccine is 100% effective guaranteed. Even the great polio vaccine wasn't 100% effective.

RoseCity07

07-08-2021, 04:59 PM

ZenMaster

07-08-2021, 05:33 PM

Yes I would, but it would be off by a similar factor. Statistically, some of those people were dying of something else and also had covid. Deaths will be overestimated. But when you have millions of deaths and they all have COVID then millions really did die from this virus. It is negligible if a few thousand were going to die anyway.

Another element to consider there is that covid tests gave false positives and deaths from those were also labeled covid.

The whole thing is interesting, of course it's natural to compare to the official number of covid deaths as a whole, but a lot of how that number came about has been forgotten.

There were quite a few cities which became kind of hotspots for deaths, due to people who were tested positive being sent to retirement homes.

Including false positives over the last year and a half, latest calculations say that real number of total covid infections in the US so far is at about 135 million, around 3.9 times higher than the number of infections caught in tests. I wonder how many people have been tested for antibodies before taking a vaccine.

Cleverness

07-08-2021, 05:38 PM

Yes I would, but it would be off by a similar factor. Statistically, some of those people were dying of something else and also had covid. Deaths will be overestimated. But when you have millions of deaths and they all have COVID then millions really did die from this virus. It is negligible if a few thousand were going to die anyway.

If you have millions of deaths within 30 days of x, then millions really did die from x? I don't think that's always true.

And to your second point, that people were "going to die anyway," aren't we all going to die anyway? I suppose what you're getting at is how much life they had left to begin with. I've pointed out, one of the most important stats on deaths w/ Covid is, on average, people who died with Covid-19 lived longer than people who died without it. I believe this is the first "pandemic" virus that fits this description.

Cleverness

07-08-2021, 05:42 PM

Another element to consider there is that covid tests gave false positives and deaths from those were also labelled covid.

The whole thing is interesting, of course it's natural to compare to the official number of covid deaths as a whole, but a lot of how that number came about has been forgotten.

There were quite a few cities which became kind of hotspots for deaths, due to people who were tested positive being sent to retirement homes.

Including false positives over the last year and a half, latest calculations say that real number of total covid infections in the US so far is at about 135 million, around 3.9 times higher than the number of infections caught in tests. I wonder how many people have been tested for antibodies before taking a vaccine.

Thank you for pointing this out. I've pointed it out several times on here, but I know a lot of folks simply don't know the data.

Another thing to consider: the number of people who were exposed, but not truly infected. We see this time and time again when someone in a household tests positive, but others in the household (exposed) do not test positive nor get sick. This lines up with what the CDC stated on March 8, 2020, that most Americans will be exposed to the virus before the end of 2020 or 2021.

I'm sure plenty of people on this board can relate, especially those with kids. Think of all the times someone in your home has been sick and how many times others in the home didn't get sick. Similar thing happens with Covid-19. ;)

RoseCity07

07-08-2021, 06:00 PM

If you have millions of deaths within 30 days of x, then millions really did die from x? I don't think that's always true.

And to your second point, that people were "going to die anyway," aren't we all going to die anyway? I suppose what you're getting at is how much life they had left to begin with. I've pointed out, one of the most important stats on deaths w/ Covid is, on average, people who died with Covid-19 lived longer than people who died without it. I believe this is the first "pandemic" virus that fits this description.

In engineering we use statistical methods to determine which parameters contribute to outcomes. It works pretty well when trying to troubleshoot problems and find out what the cause is. I imagine that the medical field does similar hypothesis testing. They know what is abnormal. They look at more than one factor when determining if the vaccine is safe. These are statistical calculations and there are errors involved. I trust this data more than anyone's personal opinion.

ZenMaster

07-08-2021, 06:02 PM

Thank you for pointing this out. I've pointed it out several times on here, but I know a lot of folks simply don't know the data.

Another thing to consider: the number of people who were exposed, but not truly infected. We see this time and time again when someone in a household tests positive, but others in the household (exposed) do not test positive nor get sick. This lines up with what the CDC stated on March 8, 2020, that most Americans will be exposed to the virus before the end of 2020 or 2021.

I'm sure plenty of people on this board can relate, especially those with kids. Think of all the times someone in your home has been sick and how many times others in the home didn't get sick. Similar thing happens with Covid-19. ;)

I think most people are under the impression that the numbers are the numbers, and that covid has been kept down due to restrictions.

Same as with herd immunity, people think now that it can only be achieved through vaccine.

Cleverness

07-08-2021, 06:22 PM

In engineering we use statistical methods to determine which parameters contribute to outcomes. It works pretty well when trying to troubleshoot problems and find out what the cause is. I imagine that the medical field does similar hypothesis testing. They know what is abnormal. They look at more than one factor when determining if the vaccine is safe. These are statistical calculations and there are errors involved. I trust this data more than anyone's personal opinion.

The first question I asked was regarding the logic behind your statement. The second question was for you to clarify what you mean by "we're going to die anyway." You didn't address either question.

We just pointed out "the medical field" (aka the gov't) counts deaths within 28 days of a positive test as a death from Covid. Do you think this type of death counting factors in "similar hypothesis testing" and "abnormal"?

Look at more than one factor when determining if the vaccine is safe? I just pointed out the effectiveness and safety using the CDCs own data. According to their opinion, it is safe and effective in children. Do you think it's safe and effective in children?

Personal opinion? Whether or not something is "safe" is personal opinion, no? Even the cause for someone's death is debatable and involves opinion, no?

Cleverness

07-08-2021, 06:27 PM

I think most people are under the impression that the numbers are the numbers, and that covid has been kept down due to restrictions.

Same as with herd immunity, people think now that it can only be achieved through vaccine.

They believe it has been "kept down" in the US by an unknown amount (could very well be ~zero), for an unknown goal over an unknown timeframe, by restrictions that have no positive correlation in Covid-19 outcomes in the US and models off sometimes by factors of 300x.

https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1399868103140556801.html

RoseCity07

07-08-2021, 06:38 PM

The first question I asked was regarding the logic behind your statement. The second question was for you to clarify what you mean by "we're going to die anyway." You didn't address either question.

We just pointed out "the medical field" (aka the gov't) counts deaths within 28 days of a positive test as a death from Covid. Do you think this type of death counting factors in "similar hypothesis testing" and "abnormal"?

Look at more than one factor when determining if the vaccine is safe? I just pointed out the effectiveness and safety using the CDCs own data. According to their opinion, it is safe and effective in children. Do you think it's safe and effective in children?

Personal opinion? Whether or not something is "safe" is personal opinion, no? Even the cause for someone's death is debatable and involves opinion, no?

I never said we are all going to die so who cares. I mean that some of the people that died after the vaccine had an unknown condition that would have killed them within days anyway. I'm not even talking about them getting into a car accident. I'm talking about undiagnosed medical conditions. There were people walking around that dropped dead before the pandemic. It happens every day. Even if the vaccines have killed some people that still would not be a good argument against vaccines. If you can save 100,000, but it doesn't save 10 people, you keep using the vaccine.

Your point on safety is pretty easy to answer. The number is arbitrary but I imagine it would be a number that is far lower than 1 percent. 1 percent of people don't die from a common cold. I don't think 1% died from any flu in the last 80-100 years. 1% is a significant amount of deaths for a flu. We want to see that number more in line with what the numbers said before the pandemic.

Cleverness

07-08-2021, 07:51 PM

Your point on safety is pretty easy to answer. The number is arbitrary but I imagine it would be a number that is far lower than 1 percent. 1 percent of people don't die from a common cold. I don't think 1% died from any flu in the last 80-100 years. 1% is a significant amount of deaths for a flu. We want to see that number more in line with what the numbers said before the pandemic.

Ah, ok. I thought you said "we're going to die anyway" in regards to the fact that many who had a positive Covid test were going to die anyway.

Not sure where you're getting the 1% number from, nor exactly how you're applying it when you say "1% is a significant amount of deaths for a flu."

The % of the world population who has died with/from Covid-19 over the past 18 months is ~4 million (approximately 0.05% of world population). Important to note that the median age of death, however, is above average life expectancy and 80% of the deaths occurred in people over the age of 65. This is very different than something like the Swine flu, which killed upwards of approximately 575,000 worldwide and 80% of the deaths occurred in people under the age of 65.

But nobody here cared about influenza just as nobody cared about the 16 million who die every year from infectious diseases. So keep in mind that when we compare it to influenza / deaths by infectious disease we're comparing it to something nobody cared/cares about.

We want to see that number more in line with what the numbers said before the pandemic.

What do you mean by "we want to see that number?"

RoseCity07

07-09-2021, 02:22 AM

Ah, ok. I thought you said "we're going to die anyway" in regards to the fact that many who had a positive Covid test were going to die anyway.

Not sure where you're getting the 1% number from, nor exactly how you're applying it when you say "1% is a significant amount of deaths for a flu."

The % of the world population who has died with/from Covid-19 over the past 18 months is ~4 million (approximately 0.05% of world population). Important to note that the median age of death, however, is above average life expectancy and 80% of the deaths occurred in people over the age of 65. This is very different than something like the Swine flu, which killed upwards of approximately 575,000 worldwide and 80% of the deaths occurred in people under the age of 65.

But nobody here cared about influenza just as nobody cared about the 16 million who die every year from infectious diseases. So keep in mind that when we compare it to influenza / deaths by infectious disease we're comparing it to something nobody cared/cares about.

What do you mean by "we want to see that number?"

Society. It's never going to zero. There is an acceptable number though. The problem is no one every says what that is. That's one of my biggest problems with the way politicians handle this. Where is the science? What number of deaths is okay? I think it's whatever the current death rate was for a common seasonal flu.

Manny98

07-09-2021, 07:00 AM

Big Pharma eating good off of sheep like Blade :lol

You got to give credit where credit is due these people know how to exploit people for money

I wonder if they will introduce a yearly subscription for booster shots soon:lol

Patrick Chewing

07-09-2021, 11:31 AM

Pfizer telling patients that a third shot is necessary....:oldlol:

Blade already in line.

keep-itreal

07-09-2021, 11:40 AM

Pfizer telling patients that a third shot is necessary....:oldlol:

Blade already in line.

:roll:

bladef@gd on his knees with his mouth open "oh yes daddy, gimme some more"

JohnnySic

07-09-2021, 12:21 PM

This nonsense needs to end already. Anyone who was gonna take the vaccine has taken it already. Those who haven't most likely wont. Scare tactics and free donuts aren't going to work.

coin24

07-09-2021, 04:26 PM

Pfizer telling patients that a third shot is necessary....:oldlol:

Blade already in line.

Govern me harder daddy!:oldlol:

Manny98

07-09-2021, 04:46 PM

Pfizer telling patients that a third shot is necessary....:oldlol:

Blade already in line.
:roll::roll::roll:

warriorfan

07-09-2021, 04:47 PM

Incoming post about Donald Trump.

bladefd

07-09-2021, 06:24 PM

An entire thread devoted just to me!

Conservatives on ISH:
http://karissaknoxsorrell.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/08/dead-poets-society1.jpg

Me:
https://64.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_luscf7KWvD1r03eggo2_r2_500.gif

Axe

07-09-2021, 06:27 PM

Patrick Chewing

07-09-2021, 09:03 PM

You got their asses on a leash

Only thing he has on a leash is his Vaccine card. Ready to show it to anyone.

coin24

07-09-2021, 10:08 PM

Only thing he has on a leash is his Vaccine card. Ready to show it to anyone.

The only time that loser leaves his house is to get another jab:oldlol:

Cleverness

07-09-2021, 10:20 PM

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Society. It's never going to zero. There is an acceptable number though. The problem is no one every says what that is. That's one of my biggest problems with the way politicians handle this. Where is the science? What number of deaths is okay? I think it's whatever the current death rate was for a common seasonal flu.

Ah, now we're talking. :applause:

Correct; it's never going to zero and this was known since March 2020. CDC already announced on March 8th that most Americans would be exposed to the virus before the end of 2020/2021 (true). The only reason for the NPIs to begin with was the hypothesis that hospitals would be overwhelmed. The details of that hypothesis were never revealed, but there were estimations of a hospitalization rate of 15-50% by people in charge when it was made (actual is ~1-2%, heavily weighted towards old/frail people who may have gone to the hospital regardless of Covid). (http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?481119-New-York-Times-These-Places-Could-Run-Out-of-Hospital-Beds-as-Coronavirus-Spreads&p=14026090&viewfull=1#post14026090)

Another big issue with the "acceptable number" is the illusion of control. Thanks to all the brainwashing, society and the politicians make the assumption that this unknown acceptable number is also something that can be controlled, and if we utilize the right combination of pseudoscience, this "acceptable number" will be obtained.

"Where's the science?" Good question. As we know, science is testable/falsifiable. The science given is based on lab experiments - some dating as far back as 2006 - using mannequins, heavyweight t-shirts (not joking), etc, under controlled environments, with plenty of other false assumptions baked into their conclusions from the data.

Where's the science in forcing 2 year olds to wear masks for 15+ months with no end date?

Where's the science behind outdoor dining bans and closing beaches?

Where's the science behind entering a restaurant with a mask, and then taking it off when sitting down?

Where's the science behind 72 inches? Why not 71 inches? Or 73?

Where's the science behind keeping travel bans? More importantly, as you put, what exactly is the achievable goal of each of these measures?

And time and time again, real world data shows no positive correlation between Covid stringency and Covid outcomes between states - including school closures, capacity restrictions, stay-at-home orders, mask mandates, mask compliance %, etc.
https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1399868103140556801.html

March 2020 there was somewhat of an achievable goal ("flatten the curve" to prevent hospitals from being overwhelmed due to insanely high R values and predicted hospitalization rates of up to 50%). But after all the field hospitals were torn down, many after seeing zero patients, Navy ships sailed out, the (somewhat) achievable goal was gone.