● Why does LeBron turn the ball over so much? ●

[Spurs m8]

Most turnovers in history AND playoff history?

How can a so-called GOAT be so wreckless with the ball?

The playoff one is extra interesting....

LeBron 975

the next worst is Magic with only 696...thats a BIG gap.

And let's not even get started on most missed shots in playoff history...LeBuckle buckles under playoff pressure.

GOAT :bowdown:

[Proctor]

:roll:

[MadDog]

:lebronamazed:

LeBron's legacy looking safe, boys. Who will catch this GOAT feat?

[warriorfan]

The gold standard.

[NBAGOAT]

lol ok point but his ast/to or to% are fine for a lead guy. warriorfan should really look know the weaknesses of his own favorite player a little more. Curry gets praised all the time for his offball play as he should but what's less impressive is his to% is higher than bron's even while bron is way more ball dominant. ast/to ratio in playoffs 7.2/3.7 for bron to 6.3/3.5 for curry.

[Spurs m8]

Mate, we are taking the bron stan approach to this thread...

We don't use context and longevity paints the whole picture.

[SATAN]

Why does OP spend so much time thinking about LeBron?

[Spurs m8]

Why does OP spend so much time thinking about LeBron?

It's more I come here...see dumb threads...so balance it out

[000]

Same reason he has the most missed shots in playoff history

[ImKobe]

Because of his ball-dominant style of play. Same reason why Luka, Westbrook & Harden average 4-5 TOs a game.

[deathawaitu]

Leturnover

The gold standard

[dreamshake]

Most turnovers in history AND playoff history?

How can a so-called GOAT be so wreckless with the ball?

The playoff one is extra interesting....

LeBron 975

the next worst is Magic with only 696...thats a BIG gap.

And let's not even get started on most missed shots in playoff history...LeBuckle buckles under playoff pressure.

GOAT :bowdown:

:roll: :roll:

[Wally450]

Why does OP spend so much time thinking about LeBron?

It’s either LeBron or Harden. Dude can’t put a coherent thought together.

[Spurs m8]

It’s either LeBron or Harden. Dude can’t put a coherent thought together.

Okay, Mr Team Hopper

[dreamshake]

Leturnover

The gold standard

LeNoHandles

[3ba11]

Elite juimpshooting and ball-movement (off-ball) are primary tenets of the game - a player is disqualified from goat without them

So even without considering Lebron's team-hopping (never learned to win, aka organic), and even without him mostly losing with super-tams or his turnover records, he was already disqualified for goat based for skill reasons.

[Full Court]

Give him a break. The guy's just selfless and generous. He shares the ball with the other team. How can you criticize him for that?

[Spurs m8]

Give him a break. The guy's just selfless and generous. He shares the ball with the other team. How can you criticize him for that?

Well he kind of needs to.

Without stiff arming and fast breaks, the dude can't really get his own shot off too well

[Axe]

At least he ain't a ball hog. :confusedshrug:

[Airupthere]

Wow, the margin against the second one is huge. 1.5fold higher than magic’s. Turnover per game is quite high too at 3.7. This is a record that will be very hard to break.

Per game averages suck. Totals are the only thing that matter. Lol

[Spurs m8]

Wow, the margin against the second one is huge. 1.5fold higher than magic’s. Turnover per game is quite high too at 3.7. This is a record that will be very hard to break.

Per game averages suck. Totals are the only thing that matter. Lol

Yeah mate...longevity is where it's at

Thank me later :cheers:

:pimp::pimp:

[And1AllDay]

show me the assist and assist to turnover ratio? :pimp: thanx bb boi :dancin

[Gohan]

Lmao at totals that's a frauds method

[And1AllDay]

Lmao at totals that's a frauds method

show me totals assists and we good bb boi :pimp:

next

[Spurs m8]

Lmao at totals that's a frauds method

Exactly

[TheCorporation]

https://i.postimg.cc/rwBpP2Mb/AST-to-TO-ratio.png

Any questions? :confusedshrug:

[dreamshake]

https://i.postimg.cc/rwBpP2Mb/AST-to-TO-ratio.png

Any questions? :confusedshrug:

So you’re telling me for every 2 good passes, LeBron has one bad pass? That’s an awful ratio. The top point guards in the league can get 10 assists with 2 turnovers. LeBron is such an overrated playmaker.

[TheCorporation]

So you’re telling me for every 2 good passes, LeBron has one bad pass? That’s an awful ratio. The top point guards in the league can get 10 assists with 2 turnovers. LeBron is such an overrated playmaker.

MJ did even less.
Kobe did even less.

Plus LeBron is a #1 option, not a passer like Nash or CP3. Those guys couldn't sniff 30 ppg playoffs like LBJ, MJ, and Kobe. Don't make this ether any easier than it needs to be, but I will say I'm glad you're learning the difference between a 18 ppg PG and a 30 PPG SG/SF.

Questions?

[dreamshake]

MJ did even less.
Kobe did even less.

LeBron is a #1 option, not a passer like Nash or CP3. Those guys couldn't sniff 30 ppg playoffs like LBJ, MJ, and Kobe. Don't make this easier than it needs to be for me, but I will say I'm glad you're learning.

Questions?

The latter aren’t overrated playmakers. Thanks for exposing this truth to the general public. LeBron is a less than steller playmaker that gets more credit than he deserves in that department.

[TheCorporation]

The latter aren’t overrated playmakers. Thanks for exposing this truth to the general public. LeBron is a less than steller playmaker that gets more credit than he deserves in that department.

MJ and Kobe maxed out at 1k playoff assists. LeBron's approach 2k. Double what they produced. They couldn't hang in this field as a #1 option because their passing was elementary at best. They hit their limit.

Questions?

[AirBonner]

MJ and Kobe maxed out at 1k playoff assists. LeBron's approach 2k. Double what they produced. They couldn't hang in this field as a #1 option because their passing was elementary at best. They hit their limit.

Questions?

Bang! Thread over /

[dreamshake]

MJ and Kobe maxed out at 1k playoff assists. LeBron's approach 2k. Double what they produced. They couldn't hang in this field as a #1 option because their passing was elementary at best. They hit their limit.

Questions?

Deflect more dawg

[Spurs m8]

LeExposure ITT

[TheCorporation]

Deflect more dawg

Questions?

[And1AllDay]

https://i.postimg.cc/rwBpP2Mb/AST-to-TO-ratio.png

Any questions? :confusedshrug:

:oldlol::roll:

silenced everyone quick

[Spurs m8]

Still baffles me

[And1AllDay]

https://i.postimg.cc/rwBpP2Mb/AST-to-TO-ratio.png

Any questions? :confusedshrug:

anyone still baffled? :oldlol:

[Airupthere]

anyone still baffled? :oldlol:

Yeah im still baffled by 2011. You give a guy all the advantages in the world and still gets himself outscored by a bench player and loses in the finals?

[And1AllDay]

Yeah im still baffled by 2011. You give a guy all the advantages in the world and still gets himself outscored by a bench player and loses in the finals?

make a new thread if your shook

read the title of this topic

[theman93]

Jordan, who's primary trait is scoring, has an assist/turnover ratio that's only 0.1 behind Lebron, who's primary trait is assisting? LOL this actually makes MJ look better.

[Airupthere]

Jordan, who's primary trait is scoring, has an assist/turnover ratio that's only 0.1 behind Lebron, who's primary trait is assisting? LOL this actually makes MJ look better.

:D but assisting is lebron’s forte man

[theman93]

:D but assisting is lebron’s forte man

I guess he's even more overrated than I thought