Shohei Ohtani

[Stanley Kobrick]

incredibe how fast asians and dominicans took over Americans greatest past time


https://i.postimg.cc/0yQ21hvP/WWPINYP.jpg (https://postimg.cc/4mDTzLnS)


what a phenom, asian fam hold this W :cheers:

[highwhey]

whites are fuming

[BurningHammer]

I still wonder why there aren't that many MLB level American players who can do both before Shohei came in.

[scuzzy]

I still wonder why there aren't that many MLB level American players who can do both before Shohei came in.
Believe it or not they can, many pro bullpen pitchers up until college were full on sluggers in HS

Mike Trout threw a no-hitter in high school, he also won a hr derby in high school batting lefty.

Once you reach NCAA/Minor league level your defensive strengths just get overshadowed by players who can throw/field better

Every outfielder, 3rd, SS and catcher has a 80-90mph cannon arm. Most can't throw it 50 times a game with precision.

Pitching is a god gifted ability imo, you can get better to only a certain extent

[MrFonzworth]

:hammertime::dancin:djparty:dancin:hammertime:

[GOBB]

I still wonder why there aren't that many MLB level American players who can do both before Shohei came in.

Why would anyone want to do both tho? That’s a lot of work and wear/tear on your body.

[DoctorP]

Why would anyone want to do both tho? That’s a lot of work and wear/tear on your body.

Because he can

[imdaman99]

Why would anyone want to do both tho? That’s a lot of work and wear/tear on your body.

Exactly this. DeGrom came up as a shortstop and guess what? I don't wanna see him batting again, I don't care if he is a .300 hitter. He has hurt himself hitting. Look at Ohtani's last start against the Yankees (pitching). He got knocked out in the 1st inning and they had to pinch hit hitters at the leadoff spot whenever it came up.

[TheMan]

incredibe how fast asians and dominicans took over Americans greatest past time


https://i.postimg.cc/0yQ21hvP/WWPINYP.jpg (https://postimg.cc/4mDTzLnS)


what a phenom, asian fam hold this W :cheers:

Babe Ruth was never even a decent pitcher, 14 Ks to 47 base on balls is absolutely putrid.

[GOBB]

Babe Ruth was never even a decent pitcher, 14 Ks to 47 base on balls is absolutely putrid.

Spoken like someone that didn’t do his homework on babe Ruth as a pitcher. Guy reads a stat and automatically concludes he wasn’t a decent pitcher. Yikes

[Lakers Legend#32]

American League MVP 2021

[ShawkFactory]

Babe Ruth was never even a decent pitcher, 14 Ks to 47 base on balls is absolutely putrid.

Cy Young himself had two seasons where he walked more guys than he struck out.

[72-10]

Most of the best pitching arms are Texans.

[72-10]

SHOH-HAY Oh-TAWN-ee

[72-10]

:hammertime::dancin:djparty:dancin:hammertime:

Party @ MrFonzworth's house. Will MC Hammer attend?

[TheMan]

Spoken like someone that didn’t do his homework on babe Ruth as a pitcher. Guy reads a stat and automatically concludes he wasn’t a decent pitcher. Yikes

Unlike you, I wasn't around during the Babe's era.

I get it that those were different times but that strikeouts to walks ratio gets you nowhere near sniffing the bigs today.

[FKAri]

Hope he can sustain it just 1 season. But he's also going to do both at the all-star game AND do the HR derby. I don't see how his body doesn't give out.


Exactly this. DeGrom came up as a shortstop and guess what? I don't wanna see him batting again, I don't care if he is a .300 hitter. He has hurt himself hitting. Look at Ohtani's last start against the Yankees (pitching). He got knocked out in the 1st inning and they had to pinch hit hitters at the leadoff spot whenever it came up.

That's the thing Ohtani's a great pitching talent but we don't know how good he could be because he hasn't been able to focus on it.

[GOBB]

Unlike you, I wasn't around during the Babe's era.

I get it that those were different times but that strikeouts to walks ratio gets you nowhere near sniffing the bigs today.

And you looked up his other pitching stats when? Oh you never did. Nor did you do any research on Babe Ruth’s ability as a pitcher. You saw one stat and formed an entire opinion around it. Way too many people do that. Yikes

[FKAri]

And you looked up his other pitching stats when? Oh you never did. Nor did you do any research on Babe Ruth’s ability as a pitcher. You saw one stat and formed an entire opinion around it. Way too many people do that. Yikes

Babe transitioned from a being a league average or good pitcher to a Godly hitter. I think only 1 or 2 seasons in between did he actually do both simultaneously and at that point his hitting was not where it would eventually be. And you can make a compelling argument that at no point was he simultaneously as good at both as Ohtani is right now(relative to peers). This begs the question, if Ohtani gave up one how good would he be at the other? He may be on a hot streak but he's still doing both things "part time".

Again, comparing their dominance has to be done relative to peers. There's no other way to compare guys 100 years apart. Babe became so good as a hitter that he completely changed the metagame. In that sense maybe you could argue that it's easier to be that far ahead of the competition when you're ahead of the curve.

[Orange_Cassidy]

whites are fuming

1. when ruth wasn't pitching he played outfield. while ohtani is DH'ing

2. when ruth hit 29 homeruns in 1919 that was more than any other teams entire roster. it was the dead ball era. it would be like ohtani hitting 300 homeruns.. and if he somehow hits 60+ like ruth did a few years later it would be like hitting 600 homeruns compared to today

ruth was so far advanced beyond his time it was just silly and is why hes the untouchable goat. his numbers for his time can't even be comprehended

[FatrickChewing]

1. when ruth wasn't pitching he played outfield. while ohtani is DH'ing

2. when ruth hit 29 homeruns in 1919 that was more than any other teams entire roster. it was the dead ball era. it would be like ohtani hitting 300 homeruns.. and if he somehow hits 60+ like ruth did a few years later it would be like hitting 600 homeruns compared to today

ruth was so far advanced beyond his time it was just silly and is why hes the untouchable goat. his numbers for his time can't even be comprehended

Did you get banned again Kennethgriffin? You baldheaded loser.

[Orange_Cassidy]

Did you get banned again Kennethgriffin? You baldheaded loser.

how come you can make fun of his ugly bald scalp but he can't make fun of your voice lol.. seems petty and very self conscious of you. you should bring him back. he was entertaining

[FKAri]

1. when ruth wasn't pitching he played outfield. while ohtani is DH'ing

2. when ruth hit 29 homeruns in 1919 that was more than any other teams entire roster. it was the dead ball era. it would be like ohtani hitting 300 homeruns.. and if he somehow hits 60+ like ruth did a few years later it would be like hitting 600 homeruns compared to today

ruth was so far advanced beyond his time it was just silly and is why hes the untouchable goat. his numbers for his time can't even be comprehended

I mentioned that when comparing across eras, how you stand up to your peers is important but it isn't the only thing to take into account. Saying one needs to hit 600 homers today to be on Babe's level of dominance in his era, is ridiculous.

[Patrick Chewing]

They should just make Ohtani a Hitter full-time. Don't stress your body out by pitching. Bash 70 homers and bring in MVP's. If the Angels would spend money on pitching, they would finally have a good team. They are wasting the talents of guys like Ohtani, Rendon, and Trout.

[Orange_Cassidy]

Saying one needs to hit 600 homers today to be on Babe's level of dominance in his era, is ridiculous.

is it? is it really though... cause when entire teams hit 20 and the next biggest homerun guy has like 9.... yeah .. 300 at the very minimum would be what ohtani needs

[FKAri]

is it?
Yes. Of course. Unless you're implying Babe Ruth would be hitting 600 homers a season in today's league.

[Orange_Cassidy]

Yes. Of course. Unless you're implying Babe Ruth would be hitting 600 homers a season in today's league.

no but he probably hits more.

with todays juiced balls, extra hart lumber and way smaller parks.. and imagine giving him the ability to see tape, research pitchers tendencies, use technology to steal signs.. take hgh etc...

did you know every time babe ruth hit a ball to center field it had to go basically 500 feet to be a homerun


In 1927, capacity was 62,000. Dimensions were 415 feet to left, 490 feet to left center, 487 feet to center, 429 feet to right center,

https://www.angelfire.com/pa/1927/stadium1.html

that little hall of fame they built used to be part of the field

https://i.ibb.co/ZSK8VWk/Screen-Shot-2021-07-09-at-9-38-55-PM-1.png

so even back then he probly hits 70+ with todays dimensions... and with all the advancements he probly hits 80+

[72-10]

FWIW, the second demarcated line is where Frank Thomas hit HR's

[Lakers Legend#32]

Bow before Sho.

[CelticBaller]

goat

[ShawkFactory]

no but he probably hits more.

with todays juiced balls, extra hart lumber and way smaller parks.. and imagine giving him the ability to see tape, research pitchers tendencies, use technology to steal signs.. take hgh etc...

did you know every time babe ruth hit a ball to center field it had to go basically 500 feet to be a homerun



https://www.angelfire.com/pa/1927/stadium1.html

that little hall of fame they built used to be part of the field

https://i.ibb.co/ZSK8VWk/Screen-Shot-2021-07-09-at-9-38-55-PM-1.png

so even back then he probly hits 70+ with todays dimensions... and with all the advancements he probly hits 80+

You’re completely ignoring a huge aspect, that being the advancement of pitching.

Walter Johnson was an absolute unicorn throwing 91.

[Patrick Chewing]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oB_sZQIbUxQ


That double standard by ESPN and Black America. Blacks can be racist without impunity. :oldlol:

[Orange_Cassidy]

You’re completely ignoring a huge aspect, that being the advancement of pitching.

Walter Johnson was an absolute unicorn throwing 91.

less speed makes it harder to hit the ball 500 feet. in fact it makes it nearly impossible. which probly explains why everyone else couldn't hit one

you could use that excuse for the batting averages I guess

and back then there was probly more movement type pitches due to substances not being banned yet. guys probly used pine tar and super glue lmao


people were obviously using crazy shit all the way up to sandy Koufax's day.. I've still never seen anyone's curve ball break like that since

[FKAri]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oB_sZQIbUxQ


That double standard by ESPN and Black America. Blacks can be racist without impunity. :oldlol:

He's right. It's sad that he had to bow to the everything-is-racist culture and apologize for making a universally agreed upon statement. Anyone who knows anything about marketing will tell you that you'd rather have a guy who speaks English to market to an English speaking audience.

[Orange_Cassidy]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oB_sZQIbUxQ


That double standard by ESPN and Black America. Blacks can be racist without impunity. :oldlol:

the thing is it's not racist if it's true. Stephen A Smith shouldn't be canceled for this and neither should all the white people who call out the obvious


I dont let myself fall to the level of a liberal sjw clown just to get revenge. never will. cancel culture is the downfall of humanity.. so is identity politics.

[Patrick Chewing]

He's right. It's sad that he had to bow to the everything-is-racist culture and apologize for making a universally agreed upon statement. Anyone who knows anything about marketing will tell you that you'd rather have a guy who speaks English to market to an English speaking audience.

Completely disagree. When players like Hideo Nomo, Ichiro, and Hideki Matsui were around, the fans were in the seats and the sport didn't take a hit. It grew. Ohtani is young, good-looking, and is putting up POWER numbers where players like Matsui and Ichiro weren't. This is different. Ohtani is better and will be better for marketing.


SAS continues to be a clown.

[FKAri]

Completely disagree. When players like Hideo Nomo, Ichiro, and Hideki Matsui were around, the fans were in the seats and the sport didn't take a hit. It grew. Ohtani is young, good-looking, and is putting up POWER numbers where players like Matsui and Ichiro weren't. This is different. Ohtani is better and will be better for marketing.


SAS continues to be a clown.

You're ignoring logic and bandwagoning along to how this piece was spun by the media. It's not about him being bad for the sport. It's that if he could speak English or better yet was of the same culture as the MLB's target demo, he'd be EVEN bigger than he is now. That's all Stephen was saying. And he's completely right. Find me ad executive who isn't a sjw to agree with you.

[Patrick Chewing]

You're ignoring logic and bandwagoning along to how this piece was spun by the media. It's not about him being bad for the sport. It's that if he could speak English or better yet was of the same culture as the MLB's target demo, he'd be EVEN bigger than he is now. That's all Stephen was saying. And he's completely right. Find me ad executive who isn't a sjw to agree with you.

That's not what SAS said. Read his exact words again:



"The fact that you got a foreign player that doesn't speak English, believe it or not, I think contributes to harming the game to some degree, when that's your box office appeal," Smith said during Monday's "First Take." "It needs to be somebody like Bryce Harper, Mike Trout, those guys. And unfortunately at this point in time, that's not the case.


The fact that he's a foreign-born player that doesn't speak English contributes to harming the game to some degree? We're not parsing words here. That's exactly what the man said. How does being foreign and not speaking the language harm the game? Explain.


The outrage is over that, not over the fact that of course if he spoke English he would more accessible. Everyone knows that.

And then there's the double-standard outrage that if a White ESPN broadcaster had said that, they'd be looking through the Classifieds right now for a new job.

[ShawkFactory]

less speed makes it harder to hit the ball 500 feet. in fact it makes it nearly impossible. which probly explains why everyone else couldn't hit one

you could use that excuse for the batting averages I guess

and back then there was probly more movement type pitches due to substances not being banned yet. guys probly used pine tar and super glue lmao


people were obviously using crazy shit all the way up to sandy Koufax's day.. I've still never seen anyone's curve ball break like that since

In practice this isn’t true. Less speed makes the ball easier to square up and barrel. Easier to barrel means easier to hit farther.

Why do you think the home run derby shots are always farther than regular games for these guys.

[FKAri]

That's not what SAS said. Read his exact words again:





The fact that he's a foreign-born player that doesn't speak English contributes to harming the game to some degree? We're not parsing words here. That's exactly what the man said. How does being foreign and not speaking the language harm the game? Explain.


The outrage is over that, not over the fact that of course if he spoke English he would more accessible. Everyone knows that.

And then there's the double-standard outrage that if a White ESPN broadcaster had said that, they'd be looking through the Classifieds right now for a new job.

I'll concede in that case because I think it can be interpreted both ways. I don't think he meant that literally. I think he was speaking within the context of what MLB marketing would prefer. Of course MLB would prefer had Ohtani been a white dude from Texas who is also into mumble rap and makes TikTok memes. On the other hand I do think Stephen A was a bit racist back during Linsanity.

[Lakers Legend#32]

Shoei: Better Than Babe

[Orange_Cassidy]

In practice this isn’t true. Less speed makes the ball easier to square up and barrel. Easier to barrel means easier to hit farther.

Why do you think the home run derby shots are always farther than regular games for these guys.

its easier to hit it just over the fence with juiced balls and bats by juiced players. but its not easier to hit a slow pitch 480 in the dead ball era by all natural players that probly never lifted weights.

in batting practice I never hit the ball over the fence but in games I could clear it easily. its called science. the energy of the pitch transfers into the hit.


Dr. Nathan also explained during our Science of Baseball conversation that while each mph of pitch speed adds 1 ft. to the distance, each mph of bat speed adds 1.2 mph of exit speed.Jul. 23, 2015


https://diamondkinetics.com/dispelling-the-mystery-of-pitch-speed/



I can't believe you're arguing against basic science lol



I remember griffeys homerun derby shots being waaaaay shorter than his actual homeruns during games. he was all natural so he couldn't just Mcguire it 450 feet...

again. this might explain why nobody else couldnt hit homeruns during Ruth's era. the pitching had to become faster for non God like human beings to hit the ball that far. and the fences had to be moved in a bit

[ShawkFactory]

in batting practice I never hit the ball over the fence but in games I could clear it easily. ots called science. the energy of the pitch transfers into the hit.



You just don't know how baseball is actually played :confusedshrug:

Yes, an object being struck in the exact same manner coming at you at a faster speed...will travel farther. That's not what I'm arguing. You're being obtuse for thinking that it is.

Setting the stage to help you understand:

A professional baseball hitter is facing a professional baseball pitcher. With me so far? This is not you and your unathletic 13 year old friends.

When a pitch is thrown 96 MPH, that provides a very short window for the hitter to make a decision on whether to swing or not. Because this window is so short, hitters aren't able to load up and give the most powerful swing that they can. And it's not just that pitches are fast but that they move so much too. You can't afford to commit.

Conversely, when every single pitch you see is 85 MPH and more likely to be in the strike zone (check the walk and ball/strike numbers for most pitchers back then; although I know you probably won't) that decision-making window increases. When that happens hitters can sell out earlier and give a bigger swing.

This is why...again...you see guys hit the ball farther in batting practice and in home run derby's than they do in games.

All of this is actually the largest contributor as to why home run numbers have been so drastically up the last couple of years, despite the balls. Guys are selling out sooner and living with the higher likelihood of a strikeout in exchange for the higher likelihood of a home run with the more powerful swing they're afford by said selling out.

[ShawkFactory]

I remember griffeys homerun derby shots being waaaaay shorter than his actual homeruns during games. he was all natural so he couldn't just Mcguire it 450 feet...

again. this might explain why nobody else couldnt hit homeruns during Ruth's era. the pitching had to become faster for non God like human beings to hit the ball that far. and the fences had to be moved in a bit

Dude, Jesus Christ.

For starters, the longest home run that Ken Griffey ever hit (on record) was at the 1993 home run derby :lol

No one hit home runs like that in Ruth's era for 2 main reasons:

1) he was certainly the best power hitter of the era. That isn't arguable.
2) the way he swung lent itself to home runs in an era when "putting the ball in play" was the goal. It'd be like sending Steph Curry to 1982 and having him play the exact same way. He'd make more threes than most teams. Eventually guys caught on with Ruth and in the next couple years we saw more guys hit in the 30s and 40s with home runs. Though not as much as him because again...he was the strongest guy of the era. And the best hitter in general.

But he wasn't a god. He just transformed the game and was the most talented in the process.

[Orange_Cassidy]

You just don't know how baseball is actually played :confusedshrug:

Yes, an object being struck in the exact same manner coming at you at a faster speed...will travel farther. That's not what I'm arguing. You're being obtuse for thinking that it is.

Setting the stage to help you understand:

A professional baseball hitter is facing a professional baseball pitcher. With me so far? This is not you and your unathletic 13 year old friends.

When a pitch is thrown 96 MPH, that provides a very short window for the hitter to make a decision on whether to swing or not. Because this window is so short, hitters aren't able to load up and give the most powerful swing that they can. And it's not just that pitches are fast but that they move so much too. You can't afford to commit.

Conversely, when every single pitch you see is 85 MPH and more likely to be in the strike zone (check the walk and ball/strike numbers for most pitchers back then; although I know you probably won't) that decision-making window increases. When that happens hitters can sell out earlier and give a bigger swing.

This is why...again...you see guys hit the ball farther in batting practice and in home run derby's than they do in games.

All of this is actually the largest contributor as to why home run numbers have been so drastically up the last couple of years, despite the balls. Guys are selling out sooner and living with the higher likelihood of a strikeout in exchange for the higher likelihood of a home run with the more powerful swing they're afford by said selling out.

stopped reading when you mentioned me being obtuse. sorry I just can't converse with someone that still tries sounding smart by quoting a movie from almost 30 years ago


faster the ball. farther it goes. you think the babe didn't have the vision needed to hit some fast balls? lmao.. keep dancing through hoops though trying to prove science wrong

[ShawkFactory]

stopped reading when you mentioned me being obtuse. sorry I just can't converse with someone that still tries sounding smart by quoting a movie from almost 30 years ago


faster the ball. farther it goes. you think the babe didn't have the vision needed to hit some fast balls? lmao.. keep dancing through hoops though trying to prove science wrong

I have no idea what movie you're referencing. It's a pretty common word.

Stop "not understanding"? Oh well. It seems intentional at this point so I don't care anymore.

[Orange_Cassidy]

I have no idea what movie you're referencing. It's a pretty common word.

Stop "not understanding"? Oh well. It seems intentional at this point so I don't care anymore.

its not a common word

nobodies ever used the word obtuse without quoting shawshank redemption. you're the only one on here that ever uses it. I've made fun of you before multiple times over the years for using it. shut up

[ShawkFactory]

its not a common word

nobodies ever used the word obtuse without quoting shawshank redemption. you're the only one on here that ever uses it. I've made fun of you before multiple times over the years for using it. shut up

Translation: "you've smashed my argument because you actually know what you're talking about, so I'll deflect"

[Orange_Cassidy]

Translation: "you've smashed my argument because you actually know what you're talking about, so I'll deflect"

nobody hits 700+ homeruns during a dead ball era without having insane vision, hand eye coordination and natural strength. especially when the parks are nearly 500 feet everywhere but down the line

you can try dismissing what ruth did because the pitching was slower but for that to make any sense there would need to be other examples of babe Ruth's from that era. but the fact is the next best guy was hitting like 10 homeruns

so you're a jack*ss that just steals lines from played out 90s movies

[ShawkFactory]

nobody hits 700+ homeruns during a dead ball era without having insane vision, hand eye coordination and natural strength. especially when the parks are nearly 500 feet everywhere but down the line

you can try dismissing what ruth did because the pitching was slower but for that to make any sense there would need to be other examples of babe Ruth's from that era. but the fact is the next best guy was hitting like 10 homeruns

so you're a jack*ss that just steals lines from played out 90s movies

Nobody is doing that...

I think you need to re-read what I said. And what it was in response to.

[Orange_Cassidy]

Nobody is doing that...

I think you need to re-read what I said. And what it was in response to.

na

just out of curiosity. are you black

[ShawkFactory]

Just for reference here..

In 1923 there were 5 guys with an OPS above 1.110. Last time someone did that? Albert Pujols with a 1.114 in 2008.

No I'm not black.

[Orange_Cassidy]

Just for reference here..

In 1923 there were 5 guys with an OPS above 1.110. Last time someone did that? Albert Pujols with a 1.114 in 2008.

No I'm not black.

yeah I said the slower pitching probly increased averages. but it hurt home runs. so did the parks and balls/bats


are you asian

[ShawkFactory]

yeah I said the slower pitching probly increased averages. but it hurt home runs. so did the parks and balls/bats


are you asian

Are you trying to catch me on some Shohei, Willie Mays, Barry Bonds fandom? :lol

[Orange_Cassidy]

Are you trying to catch me on some Shohei, Willie Mays, Barry Bonds fandom? :lol

are you asian

[ShawkFactory]

are you asian

I am not :lol

[Orange_Cassidy]

I am not :lol

are you a liberal or minority. have you ever collected welfare

[ShawkFactory]

are you a liberal or minority. have you ever collected welfare

Not really, no, no

[Orange_Cassidy]

Not really, no, no



are you a cuck. do you mostly worship non whites. do you like interracial porn. do you like rap. do you vote democrat. have you checked your white privilege. are you embarrassed by your culture and history. do you try and exclude past great white celebrities/athletes and leaders

[ShawkFactory]

are you a cuck. do you mostly worship non whites. do you like interracial porn. do you like rap. do you vote democrat. have you checked your white privilege. are you embarrassed by your culture and history. do you try and exclude past great white celebrities/athletes and leaders

You're trying to infer all of this because I took issue with your low IQ baseball take that Babe Ruth would hit 80+ home runs a year today?

What even is your world view :lol

You boggle the mind.

[Orange_Cassidy]

You're trying to infer all of this because I took issue with your low IQ baseball take that Babe Ruth would hit 80+ home runs a year today?

What even is your world view :lol

You boggle the mind.

if he hit 700+ and 60 in a season during an era when entire teams hit around 20.. with near 500 foot fences... balls probly wound by hand and baseball bats fashioned out of a tree trunk with imperfections after guzzling back 20 beers and smoking cigars inbetween innings and having zero medical staff or trainers to keep him in shape. then yes he likely does hit more today.

he was an anomaly. he almost wasn't human. its arguable that he may have called his own shot one time. and even at the very end of his career with a failing body he hit 3 homeruns in one game and 1 of them completely out of the stadium. something nobody ever did at forbes field. all cause he was pissed that the team reneged on a promise to make him manager

[ShawkFactory]

if he hit 700+ and 60 in a season during an era when entire teams hit around 20.. with near 500 foot fences... balls probly wound by hand and baseball bats fashioned out of a tree trunk with imperfections after guzzling back 20 beers and smoking cigars inbetween innings and having zero medical staff or trainers to keep him in shape. then yes he likely does hit more today.

he was an anomaly. he almost wasn't human. its arguable that he may have called his own shot one time. and even at the very end of his career with a failing body he hit 3 homeruns in one game and 1 of them completely out of the stadium. something nobody ever did at forbes field. all cause he was pissed that the team reneged on a promise to make him manager

In his 60 home run season he had a teammate who hit 47.

Another guy hit 56 the following year

[Orange_Cassidy]

In his 60 home run season he had a teammate who hit 47.

Another guy hit 56 the following year

and nearly a decade prior he hit 54 with no teammate getting above 11..

and a year before that he hit 29 with everyone else on the team combining for 4 during a year he was pitching every 4 games too

and yes lou gehrig was pretty good too. one might say he was another god like anomaly for his time and ruths successor

but take a look at the difference between ruth and the next best guy

had he not been pitching half the time he probly hits 50+ in 1919 as well

https://i.ibb.co/MGkX3dL/Screen-Shot-2021-07-13-at-7-35-17-PM.png


whats ohtani leading by? a few homeruns between him and the next guy lol

[ShawkFactory]

Keep those years going and you’ll notice a trend. Ruth’s numbers stay the same while everyone else’s go up. Why do you think that is?

It can’t be because they changed the ball or dimensions because then well...Ruth’s should go up too, no?

[Orange_Cassidy]

Keep those years going and you’ll notice a trend. Ruth’s numbers stay the same while everyone else’s go up. Why do you think that is?

It can’t be because they changed the ball or dimensions because then well...Ruth’s should go up too, no?

because ruth was ahead of his time and other guys had to catch up to him but never really came close other than gehrig whos another legend

are you saying anyone ever equaled him? lol.. no one did till roger marris came around 30 years later

and nobody matched them till the steroid boom in the 90s

[Orange_Cassidy]

has anyone other than ruth or maris even hit 60 naturally yet?

[ShawkFactory]

because ruth was ahead of his time and other guys had to catch up to him but never really came close other than gehrig whos another legend

are you saying anyone ever equaled him? lol.. no one did till roger marris came around 30 years later

and nobody matched them till the steroid boom in the 90s

Correct. That's all it is.

He's the GOAT because he was so ahead of his time and completely changed the way baseball is played. And happened to be the best of his time. Not because he was stronger than Giancarlo Stanton.

You can't compare a literal 100 year difference in a vacuum like that.

[Orange_Cassidy]

Correct. That's all it is.

He's the GOAT because he was so ahead of his time and completely changed the way baseball is played. And happened to be the best of his time. Not because he was stronger than Giancarlo Stanton.

You can't compare a literal 100 year difference in a vacuum like that.



so you think after 14 years in the league when guys finally almost caught up to ruth and were hitting 40 homeruns to his 60 you thought "hey ... shouldn't ruth hit 80 then?!?! ... why didn't ruth send himself a time machine when he was actually in his prime and tell him to travel 30 years into the future when maris hit 61 and then go for 80!?!?! DEEERP"

ok so ruth only got up to 60 by age 32... then started declining from alcohol abuse. oops... guess he won't have a chance to prove he can still hit 20-30 more homeruns than the next guy in line since there is this thing called aging and decline... but 46 homeruns and leading the league at age 36 is still pretty good though huh?


especially considering they played like 10 less games every year. ruth probly sacrificed 50 homeruns over his career just due to that