Proving yourself today is really all about playing in FIBA

[90sgoat]

I knew Donovan Mitchell and Kemba Walker would have career years after I watched them in FIBA World Cup.

I knew Demarcus Cousins was a bum after failing to even stay on the floor.

The NBA today is so geared towards certain players that it doesn't say much about skill.

If a player wants to prove themselves, they need to go win in FIBA.

[ClipperRevival]

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[90sgoat]

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Who do you think will step up?

My prediction is that Dame will look like a deer caught in the headlights once there isn't a clear lane to the rim. You run a pick and roll but... there's a 7 footer in that paint. Then what?

[ralph_i_el]

I think Dame will thrive. He's just too good of a shooter. Nico Manion was cooking...

[Kblaze8855]

Prove yourself to who? Nobody these people interact with give two shits about fiba. Hell I watch the games and barely know who was on the 2016 Olympic team. I have two people I’m pretty sure of but that’s it. And I’m 100% sure I watched every time they played.

It’s an off-season distraction not something I care how anyone performs in. I’ve watched too many people shine in one and not the other to even care how they do in each. Vspan couldn’t do shit the nba….Carlos arroyo was a role player….Saraunus Jasawhatthe****evervious looked great in 2000 and 04 to me but couldn’t get on the floor even under Don Nelson.

I just look at them as totally different things and don’t care how anyone performed in either when talking about the other.

Melo and Marbury were better internationals than Tim Duncan. Certainly doesn’t make them more fundamentally sound.

Just asked to play a different way in brief stints in the offseason. Tells very little really.

[SouBeachTalents]

Prove yourself to who? Nobody these people interact with give two shits about fiba. Hell I watch the games and barely know who was on the 2016 Olympic team. I have two people I’m pretty sure of but that’s it. And I’m 100% sure I watched every time they played.

It’s an off-season distraction not something I care how anyone performs in. I’ve watched too many people shine in one and not the other to even care how they do in each. Vspan couldn’t do shit the nba….Carlos arroyo was a role player….Saraunus Jasawhatthe****evervious looked great in 2000 and 04 to me but couldn’t get on the floor even under Don Nelson.

I just look at them as totally different things and don’t care how anyone performed in either when talking about the other.

Melo and Marbury were better internationals than Tim Duncan. Certainly doesn’t make them more fundamentally sound.

Just asked to play a different way in brief stints in the offseason. Tells very little really.
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Destroyed OP and his shitty agenda :applause:

[90sgoat]

Prove yourself to who? Nobody these people interact with give two shits about fiba. Hell I watch the games and barely know who was on the 2016 Olympic team. I have two people I’m pretty sure of but that’s it. And I’m 100% sure I watched every time they played.

It’s an off-season distraction not something I care how anyone performs in. I’ve watched too many people shine in one and not the other to even care how they do in each. Vspan couldn’t do shit the nba….Carlos arroyo was a role player….Saraunus Jasawhatthe****evervious looked great in 2000 and 04 to me but couldn’t get on the floor even under Don Nelson.

I just look at them as totally different things and don’t care how anyone performed in either when talking about the other.

Melo and Marbury were better internationals than Tim Duncan. Certainly doesn’t make them more fundamentally sound.

Just asked to play a different way in brief stints in the offseason. Tells very little really.

Everything you wrote is just a big excuse.

The MVP is a euro, one of the finalists is a euro and the best young player in the league is a euro.

American basketball sucks considering how many people play it. If the US had the size of Lithuania or Slovenia it wouldn't even qualify.

[Kblaze8855]

An excuse for what? Winning all but one olympics for 30+ years and winning 5 world championships when no other country has more than 3? America has lost I think 4 olympics in 90 years with 1 we boycotted and didn’t play, one among the most notoriously questionable endings in sports history, and all but one sending college kids and not the nba.

Who needs an excuse for being the most successful despite literally never sending its best?

It was 60 years before America stopped putting one hand behind its back not allowing its pros despite other nations sending theirs.

Usa sent like 10 non all stars in 2019. No Steph, Lebron, Durant, Harden, Davis and on and on and on.

Even the dream team didn’t have Isiah or Shaq and had Bird just for show instead of a dozen better healthy 3s who weren’t retired.

No team usa has ever had its full power. Even in 08 they had a couple role players.

USA laps the world in basketball success sending random groups of poorly fitting guys to play games the nation barely cares about.

Those are absolute facts. And nothing to excuse.

[kawhileonard2]

I knew Donovan Mitchell and Kemba Walker would have career years after I watched them in FIBA World Cup.

I knew Demarcus Cousins was a bum after failing to even stay on the floor.

The NBA today is so geared towards certain players that it doesn't say much about skill.

If a player wants to prove themselves, they need to go win in FIBA.

This makes sense. Lebron was not able to do this as when he played in it he won bronze medal.

[90sgoat]

This makes sense. Lebron was not able to do this as when he played in it he won bronze medal.

A complete failure that was. Compete and utter failure.

[FKAri]

The NBA today is so geared towards certain players that it doesn't say much about skill.

Skill is defined by whatever the NBA is geared towards. You could be the GOAT plastic cup stacker but since it's not a requisite NBA skill, it doesn't make you skilled in the NBA.

[90sgoat]

Skill is defined by whatever the NBA is geared towards. You could be the GOAT plastic cup stacker but since it's not a requisite NBA skill, it doesn't make you skilled in the NBA.

The NBA is developing into a new sport. It's becoming a case of rugby, which has two very different rulesets, in which either champion would lose under different rules.

[dreamshake]

Players like Giannis and LeBron get exposed in international play because the refs actually call traveling and carrying. The international showcase is the best stage to watch for basketball purists. NBA tweaks rules to manufacture stars that otherwise suck in international play (basketball with enforced rules).

[MadDog]

Players like Giannis and LeBron get exposed in international play because the refs actually call traveling and carrying. The international showcase is the best stage to watch for basketball purists. NBA tweaks rules to manufacture stars that otherwise suck in international play (basketball with enforced rules).

Talk your shit. All of what you said, plus the game is more physical. Less ticky-tack fouls and more body checks. Pretty sure FIBA doesn't allow hand-checking, but they're more liberal in the way its called.

[Iverson3]

Players like Giannis and LeBron get exposed in international play because the refs actually call traveling and carrying. The international showcase is the best stage to watch for basketball purists. NBA tweaks rules to manufacture stars that otherwise suck in international play (basketball with enforced rules).
LeBron is a better international player than Kobe. Both Kobe and Duncan sucks at Fiba Competition. At least LeBron won a Gold medal while Duncan is a Bronze Medallist. And he was a starting 5 in 2004

[Sportal]

LeBron is a better international player than Kobe. Both Kobe and Duncan sucks at Fiba Competition. At least LeBron won a Gold medal while Duncan is a Bronze Medallist. And he was a starting 5 in 2004

Err.. Idk about that one.

[ralph_i_el]

Durant is the best player under FIBA rules imo.

[Lebron23]

Err.. Idk about that one.


https://www.basketball-reference.com/international/teams/united-states/2008.html

https://www.basketball-reference.com/international/teams/united-states/2012.html

A 19 years old LeBron got benched in 2004 Olympics. I think Larry Brown would also bench a 19 years old Kobe because a 19 years old LeBron was a superior player than a 19 years old Kobe. When both LeBron and Kobe played for team USA. LeBron outperformed him.

https://www.usab.com/history/national-team-mens/mens-fiba-americas-championship-2007.aspx

[iamgine]

I mean can't we just let OP have his dumb opinion :lol

[dreamshake]

https://www.basketball-reference.com/international/teams/united-states/2008.html

https://www.basketball-reference.com/international/teams/united-states/2012.html

A 19 years old LeBron got benched in 2004 Olympics. I think Larry Brown would also bench a 19 years old Kobe because a 19 years old LeBron was a superior player than a 19 years old Kobe. When both LeBron and Kobe played for team USA. LeBron outperformed him.

https://www.usab.com/history/national-team-mens/mens-fiba-americas-championship-2007.aspx

You forgot to log back into your Iverson3 account before replying. Exposed.

[Axe]

Err.. Idk about that one.
Kobe made almost 70+ shots and only made 17 in 2008. So he's like a sports car with a large-displacement pushrod v8 NA engine that makes the same amount of horsepower that smaller performance turbocharged engines make these days.

[kawhileonard2]

https://www.basketball-reference.com/international/teams/united-states/2008.html

https://www.basketball-reference.com/international/teams/united-states/2012.html

A 19 years old LeBron got benched in 2004 Olympics. I think Larry Brown would also bench a 19 years old Kobe because a 19 years old LeBron was a superior player than a 19 years old Kobe. When both LeBron and Kobe played for team USA. LeBron outperformed him.

https://www.usab.com/history/national-team-mens/mens-fiba-americas-championship-2007.aspx

Lebron only won bronze medals before he joined forces with Kobe.