LeBron’s VORP stat seems like a typo…

[GrayGoat]

1. LeBron James 137.28
2. Michael Jordan* 116.08
3. John Stockton* 106.50
4. Karl Malone* 99.03
5. Kevin Garnett* 96.85
6. Tim Duncan* 91.12
7. Chris Paul 89.71
8. Kareem Abdul-Jabbar* 85.72
9. Dirk Nowitzki 84.82
10. David Robinson 81.96
11. Charles Barkley*80.46
12. Kobe Bryant* 80.14
13. Julius Erving* 80.05
14. Magic Johnson* 79.97
15. Larry Bird* 77.24
16. Shaquille O'Neal*75.51
17. Hakeem Olajuwon*74.40
18. Jason Kidd* 73.45
19. Kevin Durant 71.59
20. Clyde Drexler* 70.22

:biggums:

[And1AllDay]

this is why people underrated cp (the dumb fans) becos his advanced #s are off the chart

and naturally we see leking at numero uno

#no1isclose

:oldlol: and dirk is 9? where is terry cummings? :roll:

lewins for lefam

[Airupthere]

Looks legit. Stock at 3, KG at 5. :oldlol:

[GrayGoat]

Looks legit. Stock at 3, KG at 5. :oldlol:

You are a LeHater. You created an account just to hate on LeBron. Crazy world we live in.

[nayte]

Three and four were scrubs apparently. Great thread op we now see who had the harder finals opponents. Glad to see you come around

[And1AllDay]

Three and four were scrubs apparently. Great thread op we now see who had the harder finals opponents. Glad to see you come around

letop1

just as long as you know who is numero uno chico

[nayte]

That's fine.lol. I don't have a problem with that.kinda ruins about 127 threads to the contrary tho.im just trying to help you lot keep your stories straight.:roll:

[And1AllDay]

That's fine.lol. I don't have a problem with that.kinda ruins about 127 threads to the contrary tho.im just trying to help you lot keep your stories straight.:roll:

letop1 is all that needs to be said

you see it
i see it, op sees it, we all see letop1

[MadDog]

VORP is a cumulative stat, so that makes sense. Kareem should've been higher. He left a lot of numbers on the table by playing with Magic. Understandably though. The Lakers were a dynasty. Does LeBron know what that is? :oldlol:

[And1AllDay]

VORP is a cumulative stat, so that makes sense. Kareem should've been higher. He left a lot of numbers on the table by playing with Magic. Understandably though. The Lakers were a dynasty. Does LeBron know what that is? :oldlol:


congrats, every thing is cumulative :oldlol:

rings, pts, allstars, all nba, mvps, rebs, asts

idiot :oldlol:

[MadDog]

congrats, every thing is cumulative :oldlol:

rings, pts, allstars, all nba, mvps, rebs, asts

idiot :oldlol:

Don't be remedial. Cumulative numbers are totals. Per game AKA rate-stats are the best measure of performance. Unless you think guys like Dolph Schayes, Bob Cousy and Karl Malone > Hakeem, Bird and Magic. :confusedshrug:

[nayte]

letop1 is all that needs to be said

you see it
i see it, op sees it, we all see letop1

:roll:
That's fine. Tell me about those Milkmen and mechanics again.oh and that scrub at 20:roll:

[And1AllDay]

Don't be remedial. Cumulative numbers are totals. Per game AKA rate-stats are the best measure of performance. Unless you think guys like Dolph Schayes, Bob Cousy and Karl Malone > Hakeem, Bird and Magic. :confusedshrug:

everything is cumulative retart :oldlol:

[HoopsNY]

Very impressive. It speaks to LeBron's longevity, durability, endurance, and all-around game. Hard to imagine that anyone could ever break that record.

[MadDog]

everything is cumulative retart :oldlol:

Just so we're clear. PPG and total points are the "same" thing? Yeah..... Time for you to logoff, and enroll into school.

[HBK_Kliq_2]

Tim Duncan playoff vorp at the end of 29 years old season: 11.5

Kawhi leonard playoff vorp at the end of 29 year old season: 12.2

Shaquile O'Neal playoff vorp at the end of 29 year old season: 11.1

So kawhi is doing work, he just wasn't a ballhog as soon as he came into the league like LeBron

[3ba11]

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VORP is an accumulative stat based on games and minutes - Lebron simply played more games but the best VORP seasons are all MJ:

https://www.basketball-reference.com/leaders/vorp_season.html



https://i.makeagif.com/media/7-08-2021/dKbhhP.gif

[ShawkFactory]

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VORP is an accumulative stat based on games and minutes - Lebron simply played more games but the best VORP seasons are all MJ:

https://www.basketball-reference.com/leaders/vorp_season.html



https://i.makeagif.com/media/7-08-2021/dKbhhP.gif

From 87-98 Jordan never played less than 78 games. Played 82 seven times, 81 once, and 80 once. Averaged ~40 minutes a game through all that.

Lebron has only played 82 once. And has a lot of 74-77 seasons in their. Plus the 62 for the lockout year (7.6 VORP still). Averaged around 38 minutes a game too.

The cumulative shit is an Jordan’s side. And on that of many others

[ImKobe]

From 87-98 Jordan never played less than 78 games. Played 82 seven times, 81 once, and 80 once. Averaged ~40 minutes a game through all that.

Lebron has only played 82 once. And has a lot of 74-77 seasons in their. Plus the 62 for the lockout year (7.6 VORP still). Averaged around 38 minutes a game too.

The cumulative shit is an Jordan’s side. And on that of many others

How is it on Jordan's side :kobe: . MJ sat out 147 games of his prime (94, 95) and had the broken foot his 2nd year that cost him basically the entire year.

[ShawkFactory]

How is it on Jordan's side :kobe: . MJ sat out 147 games of his prime (94, 95) and had the broken foot his 2nd year that cost him basically the entire year.

It’s merit is being a season by season statistic..

No one is going to make an actual career VORP argument.

[kuniva_dAMiGhTy]

Bron is a longevity monster.

With nutrition and training advancements, I'm thinking he'll play past 40.


It’s merit is being a season by season statistic..

No one is going to make an actual career VORP argument.

Isn't that what the original poster did? :lol

[ShawkFactory]

Bron is a longevity monster.

With nutrition and training advancements, I'm thinking he'll play past 40.



Isn't that what the original poster did? :lol

It appears so :lol

I have him on ignore in my defense

[ImKobe]

It’s merit is being a season by season statistic..

No one is going to make an actual career VORP argument.

Yeah, I wish we had a VORP/48 stat or something, but I think MJ still blows Lebron out of the water, as he does with every other stat. MJ led the league in VORP 9x as did Lebron and that's with him losing 3 seasons from 84-98.

[3ba11]

From 87-98 Jordan never played less than 78 games. Played 82 seven times, 81 once, and 80 once. Averaged ~40 minutes a game through all that.

Lebron has only played 82 once. And has a lot of 74-77 seasons in their. Plus the 62 for the lockout year (7.6 VORP still). Averaged around 38 minutes a game too.

The cumulative shit is an Jordan’s side. And on that of many others


That's part of Jordan's value above replacement - more minutes - more games - just MORE

But career-wise, the accumulation favors Lebron, which is why he has more VORP career-wise - it's a direct correlation with seasons played - but within those individual seasons, Jordan is far superior and gives you MORE.

[tpols]

Yall have to stick to one story. Is Kobe better than Magic, Bird, Shaq, and Hakeem? Because elsewhere you say he isnt. Are Karl Malone and Stockton top 5 GOATs? Why didn't they win a single championship together then?

[Sarcastic]

Now do the advanced stats that matter, like PER, WS/48, and BPM.

[HoopsNY]

This is so dumb. VORP cannot be viewed in isolation of a greater context. LeBron's VORP is massively impressive, but it doesn't spell the entire story. Just appreciate it for what it is and stop trying to weaponize it against MJ's legacy. Because quite frankly, it won't work.

[000]

Lebron being outscored by Jason Terry in the Finals seems like a typo too