Get Giannis some help for the love of god.

[coastalmarker99]

Absolute ****ing embarrassing from everyone not named Giannis, Tucker, or Connaughton. Just took an amazing game from Giannis and spit, pissed, on it. 42 damn points in the Finals and no one else hit 20. Mustered a positive +/- in a double-digit loss (only player on the team).

This Bucks team should be ashamed of themselves. Khris and Jrue looked like below-average role players and they are getting paid 30 million a year. ****ing trash.


The Bucks are about to lose in 5 while Giannis is +7 over the series. The Bucks need to get him some help.

[coastalmarker99]

Eric Bledsoe playoff shooting splits with the Bucks: — 41.1 FG% — 25.4 3P% — 73.2 FT%

Jrue Holiday playoff shooting splits with the Bucks: — 41.1 FG% — 28.9 3P% — 67.3 FT%

Jrue has been utterly embarrassing in this series to give up all your assets and pay him 250 million dollars only for him to play like this in the biggest games the team has played in 47 years is just horrible for the Bucks.

[coastalmarker99]

I'm glad Giannis at least is putting on some truly impressive performances on the national stage on one knee to boot.


Anyone that watched a lot of the Bucks (which is only Bucks fans) knows that the criticism of him not being able to be successful in the playoffs was misguided and lazy (putting it politely). It's a shame his two "all-star" level teammates can't hit a shot.

[FultzNationRISE]

He had a great game, but it’s not like he carries them every night. Sometimes he’s the one botching their chances.

Pretty much every Bucks player has a Jekyll and Hyde aspect to their game.

[coastalmarker99]

People will still blame Bud, but when your second and third options are this embarrassing, he really isn't at fault for the two losses.

[FultzNationRISE]

Youre right not everything is Bud’s fault, but he’s still looked generally incompetent throughout the playoffs.

[HoopsNY]

Absolute ****ing embarrassing from everyone not named Giannis, Tucker, or Connaughton. Just took an amazing game from Giannis and spit, pissed, on it. 42 damn points in the Finals and no one else hit 20. Mustered a positive +/- in a double-digit loss (only player on the team).

This Bucks team should be ashamed of themselves. Khris and Jrue looked like below-average role players and they are getting paid 30 million a year. ****ing trash.


The Bucks are about to lose in 5 while Giannis is +7 over the series. The Bucks need to get him some help.

Bro there has to be some accountability on Giannis' basic style of play. Giannis is a pure-iso scorer. Clear out and do the same move over and over. His style diminishes teammates and relegates them to standing on the perimeter, which doesn't create shots, enhance playmaking, or spread ball movement.

Not to mention, Giannis' play requires teammates clear out the paint, so if and when he misses, there is little opportunity for offensive rebounds. I'm afraid Giannis will never win a title at this rate given his style of play. It's just not conducive to winning.

[coastalmarker99]

Bro there has to be some accountability on Giannis' basic style of play. Giannis is a pure-iso scorer. Clear out and do the same move over and over. His style diminishes teammates and relegates them to standing on the perimeter, which doesn't create shots, enhance playmaking, or spread ball movement.

Not to mention, Giannis' play requires teammates clear out the paint, so if and when he misses, there is little opportunity for offensive rebounds. I'm afraid Giannis will never win a title at this rate given his style of play. It's just not conducive to winning.



Jrue is missing wide-open layups along with Middleton I don't know what more you can expect Giannis to do offensively besides grab their bricks and score or get fouled.

[HoopsNY]

Jrue is missing wide-open layups along with Middleton I don't know what more you can expect Giannis to do offensively besides grab their bricks and score or get fouled.

Milwaukee can't tire Phoenix's defense out. It's stand around and watch an iso player do his thing, and it's usually Giannis. When shots don't fall, you have to rely on other aspects, something that Milwaukee can't do.

Phoenix right now is winning because they're playing a better brand of basketball. They're moving the ball a lot more and trying to find the open man. Tonight's game saw them do that a lot where at times, it resembled 2000s or 90s ball with how many guys were touching the ball.

This is putting Milwaukee's defense on edge and tiring them out.

Milwaukee has to adjust. When shots don't fall, you have to use strategy. But Milwaukee's style of play isn't high caliber to begin with. There's a reason why adding Paul raised the ceiling for this Phoenix team.

[AngelEyes]

This is a ridiculously bad take, Holiday and Middleton are both consistently missing wide open shots time and time again. They had an abundance of great looks and they just could not get it done, Giannis did not diminish them, the moment has been too big for them. On the other hand, Giannis coming off a serious injury has risen to the occasion but has just not had enough support from his team.

[RRR3]

Giannis has been fantastic but stop saying “one one leg” dude is clearly healthy lmfao

[Code Breaker]

Milwaukee can't tire Phoenix's defense out. It's stand around and watch an iso player do his thing, and it's usually Giannis. When shots don't fall, you have to rely on other aspects, something that Milwaukee can't do.

Phoenix right now is winning because they're playing a better brand of basketball. They're moving the ball a lot more and trying to find the open man. Tonight's game saw them do that a lot where at times, it resembled 2000s or 90s ball with how many guys were touching the ball.

This is putting Milwaukee's defense on edge and tiring them out.

Milwaukee has to adjust. When shots don't fall, you have to use strategy. But Milwaukee's style of play isn't high caliber to begin with. There's a reason why adding Paul raised the ceiling for this Phoenix team.

:applause:

[HoopsNY]

This is a ridiculously bad take, Holiday and Middleton are both consistently missing wide open shots time and time again. They had an abundance of great looks and they just could not get it done, Giannis did not diminish them, the moment has been too big for them. On the other hand, Giannis coming off a serious injury has risen to the occasion but has just not had enough support from his team.

You're not wrong in that Middleton and Jrue aren't playing well. But when shots aren't falling, you have to adjust. Milwaukee appears as though they have no game plan to adjust. The mistakes they were making in game 1, they were making again in game 2.

If the shots don't fall or your guys are standing around watching Giannis, then what do you do? Clearly Phoenix has this figured out. They pass the rock, space the floor, get guys involved, far more than what we're seeing from Milwaukee. Milwaukee's offense looks lost a lot of the time out there.

I'm not saying his team is supporting him. They're not. But when that happens, you have to make adjustments.

[coastalmarker99]

Giannis is now averaging 31-14.5-4 on 63.6% shooting through two Finals games, and his team is +4 in his 75 minutes and -27 in the 21 minutes he's sat, and his knee folded the wrong way nine days ago

[bobopenguin]

good luck Giannis, u are locked with team until 2025.
and u aint gonna pass Nets for next few years... expecting lot of lockerroom noise.

[DoctorP]

meltdown

[Orange_Cassidy]

giannis IS the help.. the day he realizes this and they run it through Middleton is when the bucks become legit contenders. they looked fluid without giannis. with him back they're stagnant again. he needs to play the ayton role and just do the dirty work. get inside and clean up the f*cking boards. enough threes. enough standing outside. enough with the face up spin moves from the top of the key. get position and pin your man down. lob it in and f*cking throw your defender through the rim you goofy f*ck

[HoopsNY]

giannis IS the help.. the day he realizes this and they run it through Middleton is when the bucks become legit contenders. they looked fluid without giannis. with him back they're stagnant again. he needs to play the ayton role and just do the dirty work. get inside and clean up the f*cking boards. enough threes. enough standing outside.

Bingo; we saw how Middleton played last year when Giannis went down in game 4 against Miami. We saw how the Bucks responded without Giannis against Atlanta in games 5 and 6 this year.

Giannis is an iso player who diminishes the roles of the other guys. He doesn't have LeBron's skillset where he can play-make and be ball dominant at the same time. Instead, guys have to clear out and watch him play, with little chance for an offensive rebound.

Phoenix is playing smart basketball as they have a genius PG. It takes much more effort and exertion to run around and chase the ball and offensive players who work through ball movement than it is to simply pass the roc until you find an open man.

Kuddos to Phoenix because everyone is getting touches and is involved.

[hold this L]

Jrue being as bad as Bledsoe offensively has to be one of the most shocking events this PS.

[3ba11]

The Suns' offense wouldn't be so potent if they were being worn down more defensively

But the Bucks' offense is sputtering and not applying effective pressure - they can turn the series around on the OFFENSIVE end by blowing the Suns doors off - then the Suns won't be so fresh and look so great on offense

This series won't be won in a defensive lockdown series - no big series in today's game will be won that way.

[3ba11]

Jrue being as bad as Bledsoe offensively has to be one of the most shocking events this PS.


Giannis isn't elevating them - looks like he went back to shooting threes again - Middleton and Jrue played great when Giannis abandoned threes, while setting a lot of screens and playing like a center on offense.

So it looks like Giannis still has some more learning to do before he learns to WIN (organic)... He isn't fully up the "organic winning learning curve".. it's a steep curve and takes a while to overcome it

[insight]

Not sure why the Bucks didn't run any pick n roll with Jrue and Giannis. Their offense has been pretty static, Jrue passes the ball to Giannis, everyone gets out of the way, Giannis drives to the basket, occasionaly kicks it out or takes a 3. They will try to find the mismatch every once in a while but at some point everyone defers to Giannis which makes thier offense 1 dimensional. I wouldn't be surprised if Millwakee's role players play much better at home and they win the next two at home but they will need to become more dymanic offensively if they want to win the series.

[RRR3]

Idiots blaming Giannis for last game lmao. Middleton and Holiday had plenty of good looks, that’s on them.

[Wally450]

Let’s see what happens in Milwaukee before we make this take. Things like this happen all the time to teams that lose their first two games on the road.

[ImKobe]

Giannis really needs better shooters around him. Middleton is the closest thing to a consistent 3PT shooter that Milwaukee has, but he goes cold every other PO game with 5/16 & 6/22 FG type performances :facepalm .

[DoctorP]

Giannis really needs better shooters around him. Middleton is the closest thing to a consistent 3PT shooter that Milwaukee has, but he goes cold every other PO game with 5/16 & 6/22 FG type performances :facepalm .

He's always been that.

They could try trading for Lillard

[tpols]

giannis IS the help.. the day he realizes this and they run it through Middleton is when the bucks become legit contenders. they looked fluid without giannis. with him back they're stagnant again. he needs to play the ayton role and just do the dirty work. get inside and clean up the f*cking boards. enough threes. enough standing outside. enough with the face up spin moves from the top of the key. get position and pin your man down. lob it in and f*cking throw your defender through the rim you goofy f*ck

Yup.

Giannis is reverting back to his old self of spam dribbling up top. When he became the roll guy and post man vs the Nets the Bucks won. Jrue and Middleton need to be primary ball handlers and not spotting up off giannis dribbling. They're doing it backwards.

[tpols]

Giannis isn't elevating them - looks like he went back to shooting threes again - Middleton and Jrue played great when Giannis abandoned threes, while setting a lot of screens and playing like a center on offense.

So it looks like Giannis still has some more learning to do before he learns to WIN (organic)... He isn't fully up the "organic winning learning curve".. it's a steep curve and takes a while to overcome it

Yea it pisses me off he did it vs the Nets for like 3 or 4 games and is now pulling the same old shit again. :facepalm damn it we would've been champs if he just didn't do it for that small stretch.

[Sportal]

It's not the first stint LeBron Cavs... But with the East the way it is, it may as well be now... It could be quite literally now or never for Giannis, I know that's insane to say, he's young, but he really might not get another shot at this for at least 5 years... He'd still only be what, 30 or something, but this could quite literally be the only time he plays for a championship.

[coastalmarker99]

giannis IS the help.. the day he realizes this and they run it through Middleton is when the bucks become legit contenders. they looked fluid without giannis. with him back they're stagnant again. he needs to play the ayton role and just do the dirty work. get inside and clean up the f*cking boards. enough threes. enough standing outside. enough with the face up spin moves from the top of the key. get position and pin your man down. lob it in and f*cking throw your defender through the rim you goofy f*ck

Uh, I'm not sure if you've actually been watching these first 2 games but Giannis has been allowing other guys to create/run the offense in the first half which has lead to terrible results. They're bricking open shots and even layups. T

Then when Giannis subs out the team falls apart (+4 with him on the floor, -27 with him off in only 21 minutes - 110 ORrtg with him playing, 95 ORtg with him off).


Thus Giannis took over in the 2nd half. They had a 144 ORtg in the 3rd q last night and only won the quarter by 1 point because their defense couldn't stop anything.

In-game 1, Middleton was the guy who took over in the 2nd half and it didn't matter in the slightest.


There are many issues the Bucks have, but Giannis being aggressive is the least of their problems. Their offensive team production has been amazing when he's taking over.

This sounds a lot like people blaming LeBron for dominating the ball/the team falls apart with him on the bench.

[Carbine]

I don't cite numbers as the end all be all but damn the man put up a 40 burger on 15-22 shooting. That probably has been done a handful of times in NBA Finals history.

Blaming him for this one is absurd and agenda driven. I don't even like Giannis game but damn, haters gonna hate.

[ShawkFactory]

Uh, I'm not sure if you've actually been watching these first 2 games but Giannis has been allowing other guys to create/run the offense in the first half which has lead to terrible results. They're bricking open shots and even layups. T

Then when Giannis subs out the team falls apart (+4 with him on the floor, -27 with him off in only 21 minutes - 110 ORrtg with him playing, 95 ORtg with him off).


Thus Giannis took over in the 2nd half. They had a 144 ORtg in the 3rd q last night and only won the quarter by 1 point because their defense couldn't stop anything.

In-game 1, Middleton was the guy who took over in the 2nd half and it didn't matter in the slightest.


There are many issues the Bucks have, but Giannis being aggressive is the least of their problems. Their offensive team production has been amazing when he's taking over.

This sounds a lot like people blaming LeBron for dominating the ball/the team falls apart with him on the bench.

This is exactly what it is.

Shit ain't about Giannis.

[lakerstekkenn]

Absolute ****ing embarrassing from everyone not named Giannis, Tucker, or Connaughton. Just took an amazing game from Giannis and spit, pissed, on it. 42 damn points in the Finals and no one else hit 20. Mustered a positive +/- in a double-digit loss (only player on the team).

This Bucks team should be ashamed of themselves. Khris and Jrue looked like below-average role players and they are getting paid 30 million a year. ****ing trash.


The Bucks are about to lose in 5 while Giannis is +7 over the series. The Bucks need to get him some help.


Bucks have to step up their defense & rebounding the offense isn't the problem because Giannis scored 40 and they still lost 4 Suns were in double figures with 1 having 30, while Paul is capable to give you 40, the Suns are getting all of the rebounds and put backs they are playing superior defense & rebounding & scoring.

[jayfan]

Bogdanovic would have made a big difference on this team. Too bad it fell through.



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[StrongLurk]

Giannis should be happy that the Nets had injuries to Kyrie/Harden, otherwise they would've had another second round playoff exit.

[DMAVS41]

I understand this given the circumstances of the league now, but he watched his team win 2 playoff games without him in the ECF to get to the Finals.

Is it a great supporting cast? No, but it is a lot better than many all-time great players get for the majority of their careers.