View Full Version : Rank these small forwards from the past 20 years or so?
L.Kizzle
07-11-2021, 01:31 PM
Glenn Robinson
Rashard Lewis
Andrei Kirilenko
Caron Butler
Khris Middleton
FultzNationRISE
07-11-2021, 01:42 PM
Always have to determine first if we're ranking based on their value in today's era, or their value in their respective eras relative to each other.
Who would I want for a game today is gonna look different from who I would want for a game in 2009.
FultzNationRISE
07-11-2021, 01:48 PM
Anyway I think theyre all pretty similar in value. Probably Butler a little bit below the others in terms of impact. Big Dog is the least reliable guy.
The biggest question mark is Kirilenko, since he's probably the most complete player of the group, but also the most prone to shooting/scoring slumps. So if it's a "jack up shots" era like today he's gonna be lower on the list. If it's a defensive grind type style, he'll be higher.
72-10
07-11-2021, 01:49 PM
Glenn would take a dump on these guys even Kirilenko.
Xiao Yao You
07-11-2021, 01:51 PM
Anyway I think theyre all pretty similar in value. Probably Butler a little bit below the others in terms of impact. Big Dog is the least reliable guy.
The biggest question mark is Kirilenko, since he's probably the most complete player of the group, but also the most prone to shooting/scoring slumps. So if it's a "jack up shots" era like today he's gonna be lower on the list. If it's a defensive grind type style, he'll be higher.
Kirilenko could be more like Dramond Green in today's game. He was best at the 4 before they got Boozer even then
Reggie43
07-11-2021, 07:24 PM
I would still take Kirilenko but Glenn Robinson in today's league would be a perennial allstar and easily the best scorer or atleast the most versatile scoring wise out of the group.
Glenn Robinson
Rashard Lewis
Andrei Kirilenko
Caron Butler
Khris Middleton
glenn robinson
khris middleton
rashard lewis
caron butler
andrei kirilenko
Jasper
07-11-2021, 10:45 PM
Khris Middleton defends , sweet offense great court vision
Glenn Robinson right handed dribbler , shooter
Andrei Kirilenko defender, boards , weak side offense
Caron Butler rounded player 2nd tier
Rashard Lewis 2nd tier , shooter , average defender
Mr.GOAT2408
07-12-2021, 01:17 AM
Depends on the role, I'd take AK47 over all of them if I needed a role player due to his versatility on both ends but if I was needing a sidekick or needed someone to lead my team (which none of these guys are good enough to be that guy anyway) he'd be near the bottom
But if I was going off of that:
Robinson
Middleton
Lewis
Kirilenko
Butler
TheCorporation
07-12-2021, 01:19 AM
glenn robinson
khris middleton
rashard lewis
caron butler
andrei kirilenko
Bingo
Sulico
07-12-2021, 03:09 AM
Andrei Kirilenko
Huge Gap!
Rashard Lewis
Khris Middleton
Glenn Robinson
Caron Butler
This thread is a bit insulting to AK47 and his fans. Those are not players on the same tier as him.
To put it in perspective:
Career BPM:
AK47 - 4.9
Shaquille O'Neal - 5.1
Rashard Lewis - 1.9
Khris Middleton - 0.6
Glenn Robinson - 0.1
Caron Butler - -0.2
ShawkFactory
07-12-2021, 02:16 PM
Andrei Kirilenko
Huge Gap!
Rashard Lewis
Khris Middleton
Glenn Robinson
Caron Butler
This thread is a bit insulting to AK47 and his fans. Those are not players on the same tier as him.
To put it in perspective:
Career BPM:
AK47 - 4.9
Shaquille O'Neal - 5.1
Rashard Lewis - 1.9
Khris Middleton - 0.6
Glenn Robinson - 0.1
Caron Butler - -0.2
Yea I'm not sure why people are acting like he shouldn't be the frontrunner here. He's by far best all around player. If he wanted to I'm sure he could have scored more too. The only issue with him is the durability, which can't be discounted.
But at his best and completely healthy? I'm taking him easily.
Lewis would be a closer second for me. His size was a huge problem for other 3s and he always seemed to make the big shots he took.
Guys like Butler and Robinson
glenn robinson
kirilenko
middleton
lewis
butler
imdaman99
07-12-2021, 02:38 PM
AK47 was so good when he was healthy. One of them guys that could have a 20-5-5-5-5 game. Yeah he wasn't going to get you 30 and wasn't a go-t0 scorer like Middleton or Big Dog could be, but he was a jack of all trades kinda guy that was capable of being DPOY material.
Carbine
07-12-2021, 02:44 PM
As with most of this comparisons it depends on who they're playing with.
Take these Bucks for example, I'd rather have Middleton over all of them. AK47 wouldn't be enough scoring to help Giannis especially when the third option is the erratic Holliday.
If it's the 2015 Warriors I'd rather have AK47.
tpols
07-12-2021, 02:51 PM
Andrei Kirilenko
Huge Gap!
Rashard Lewis
Khris Middleton
Glenn Robinson
Caron Butler
This thread is a bit insulting to AK47 and his fans. Those are not players on the same tier as him.
To put it in perspective:
Career BPM:
AK47 - 4.9
Shaquille O'Neal - 5.1
Rashard Lewis - 1.9
Khris Middleton - 0.6
Glenn Robinson - 0.1
Caron Butler - -0.2
Yup... I was gonna say AK47 is easily the most well rounded dominant player in the group. Robinson and Butler are both inefficient with no defense, roided Rashard was actually dann good perfect stretch 4 with All Star talent, and Middleton is in the middle a 2nd tier All Star.
TAZORAC
07-13-2021, 01:31 AM
1.Glen Robinson
2.Middletown
3.Kirlenko
4.Butler
5.Lewis
72-10
07-13-2021, 11:02 PM
now to answer your question
Glenn Robinson
Caron Butler
Rashard Lewis
Andrei Kirilenko
Khris Middleton
I have noticed that most of these guys don't play much defense most notably Robinson, who didn't try on defense since he had so much in the bag on offense, but they have a lot of tools offensively esp. Robinson. Caron's a defensively sieve. Rashard is a defensive liability. etc. however, defense is where Kirilenko makes his fame.
72-10
07-13-2021, 11:05 PM
now to answer your question
Glenn Robinson
Caron Butler
Rashard Lewis
Andrei Kirilenko
Khris Middleton
I have noticed that most of these guys don't play much defense most notably Robinson, who didn't try on defense since he had so much in the bag on offense, but they have a lot of tools offensively esp. Robinson. Caron's a defensive sieve. Rashard is a defensive liability. etc. however, defense is where Kirilenko makes his fame.
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