View Full Version : How much do you blame Bulls GM Jerry Krause for the dissolution of the Bulls?
72-10
07-11-2021, 01:44 PM
Though it's difficult to recall what they were, do you agree with Jerry Krause's rails against Michael Jordan to improve the team? Do you think Michael Jordan would be knowledgable about improving his team's chances of winning?
8Ball
07-11-2021, 02:17 PM
Though it's difficult to recall what they were, do you agree with Jerry Krause's rails against Michael Jordan to improve the team? Do you think Michael Jordan would be knowledgable about improving his team's chances of winning?
Jerry Krause built the bulls dynasty.
He deserves credit for its creation.
Jordan could have stayed. So jordan was the one that broke up the bulls.
Orange_Cassidy
07-11-2021, 02:25 PM
Jerry Krause built the bulls dynasty.
He deserves credit for its creation.
Jordan could have stayed. So jordan was the one that broke up the bulls.
rod thorn drafted jordan so he created the bulls dynesty
i mean how hard is it to get one other good player to put along side the goat to turn that thing around
72-10
07-11-2021, 02:29 PM
Jerry Krause built the bulls dynasty.
He deserves credit for its creation.
Jordan could have stayed. So jordan was the one that broke up the bulls.
Do you think he also ****ed it up royal?
Sucks they had underpaid pippen throughout the dynasty's existence. Nevertheless, he had good loyalty to the team since he returned to them in his retirement season.
Jerry Krause built the bulls dynasty.
He deserves credit for its creation.
Jordan could have stayed. So jordan was the one that broke up the bulls.
Lol krause took over in '85. But yes, he was responsible for rounding them up. However, he also did split them up when he said he wouldn't sign the zen master phil jackson anymore after they got their sixth ring. Didn't care if they could go 82-0 in the succeeding season or something like that. He's fired.
coin24
07-11-2021, 08:02 PM
Over 20 years ago, might be time to move on..
Bronbron23
07-11-2021, 08:50 PM
Jerry Krause built the bulls dynasty.
He deserves credit for its creation.
Jordan could have stayed. So jordan was the one that broke up the bulls.
What an idiotic take. Your job as a gm is to win and they already had the pieces to do that and that includes phil jackson. Jerry let his ego cloud his judgment. He thought he didn't need phil or mj or anyone. He legit thought he could rebuild and win again and he was flat out wrong. When u have a nucleus like he had u don't mess with it. You ride that shit until the wheels fall off because u may never get a chance like that again.
What an idiotic take. Your job as a gm is to win and they already had the pieces to do that and that includes phil jackson. Jerry let his ego cloud his judgment. He thought he didn't need phil or mj or anyone. He legit thought he could rebuild and win again and he was flat out wrong. When u have a nucleus like he had u don't mess with it. You ride that shit until the wheels fall off because u may never get a chance like that again.
Well, part of that decision could be that their core is already more than 30 years old and weren't they one of the teams with the oldest players to make it into the finals? I think so. Also with regards to their rebuilding, krause made it clear that he didn't want phil jackson to return already but despite that reinsdorf tried to offer him an extension. However, phil declined tho because he didn't want to be part of that rebuild.
kawhileonard2
07-11-2021, 09:49 PM
When you say a team could go 82-0 and win the title that they weren't coming back then you were the cause.
Bronbron23
07-11-2021, 09:59 PM
Well, part of that decision could be that their core is already more than 30 years old and weren't they one of the teams with the oldest players to make it into the finals? I think so. Also with regards to their rebuilding, krause made it clear that he didn't want phil jackson to return already but despite that reinsdorf tried to offer him an extension. However, phil declined tho because he didn't want to be part of that rebuild.
I don't care if they're 40 years old. Squeeze every drip out that squad. Your not guaranteed to ever get that close again and it turned out they never did. As far as phil declining i can't blame him knowing tge gm didn't want him. Again that shit was all on krause. Phil would of stayed if he wasn't such a idiot.
Xiao Yao You
07-11-2021, 10:00 PM
yep you for 4 straight. You don't blow it up
I don't care if they're 40 years old. Squeeze every drip out that squad. Your not guaranteed to ever get that close again and it turned out they never did. As far as phil declining i can't blame him knowing tge gm didn't want him. Again that shit was all on krause. Phil would of stayed if he wasn't such a idiot.
No, phil can still coach well during that time which was lampshaded when he got more titles with shaq and kobe. So i wasn't talking about him. And yea, they never got anywhere in the first five years of the rebuild since the 90s dynasty so that sucks rofl.
Sarcastic
07-11-2021, 10:28 PM
Sucks they had underpaid pippen throughout the dynasty's existence. Nevertheless, he had good loyalty to the team since he returned to them in his retirement season.
He wasn't underpaid when he first signed the contract. He was a top 10 highest paid player the first few years, making more than Hakeem, Karl Malone, Barkley, Ewing, and Drexler.
He was just very stupid to sign a long term contract right when the CBA was about to expire. Reinsdorf even warned him to not sign it. He didn't listen.
getting_old
07-12-2021, 02:52 PM
he was just sitting there and lucked out totally on the way up
so he gets no blame as it naturally fell apart
ImKobe
07-12-2021, 03:01 PM
Most of the blame. He wanted to blow it up before '98 and didn't get along with MJ nor Phil, he let his feelings get in the way of more team success because those guys got all the credit for it.
RogueBorg
07-12-2021, 05:29 PM
When you say a team could go 82-0 and win the title that they weren't coming back then you were the cause.
This
Most of the blame. He wanted to blow it up before '98 and didn't get along with MJ nor Phil, he let his feelings get in the way of more team success because those guys got all the credit for it.
The others probably often overlooked krause when it came to their success because of how he looks. Well, probably. And his narcissism too i suppose.
72-10
07-18-2021, 09:46 PM
Most of the blame. He wanted to blow it up before '98 and didn't get along with MJ nor Phil, he let his feelings get in the way of more team success because those guys got all the credit for it.
Ah yes, I remember that now. Krause also seemed to not pay Michael much heed for any of Michael's suggested player acquisitions to improve the team. It's an awkward situation because it's difficult to say how much of a say a player as great as Michael should have in his team's management. I don't think there's any written guidelines pertaining to this scenario.
Bill Russell had a similiar situation.
TheMan
07-19-2021, 09:36 AM
Most of the blame. He wanted to blow it up before '98 and didn't get along with MJ nor Phil, he let his feelings get in the way of more team success because those guys got all the credit for it.
Yep, most successful GMs who have built multiple dynasties like Jerry West are content to stay in the background, this fat little Jew wanted the same credit the players and PJax got. :facepalm Once you have a generational talent like MJ in your team, it shouldn't take rocket science to surround him with capable teammates. Krause was full of himself, not nearly as good as what he thought he was. He blew up that dynasty and then failed miserably in trying to build another contender, starting with that shitbird Tim Floyd. Ended his days basically back where he started, as a lowly scout for the White Sox :lol F him, he cost the Bulls at least one title, I'm convinced they could've won in '99, especially considering it was a strike shortened season.
ScottieQuitting
07-19-2021, 09:59 AM
50% Krause
35% Pippen
15% Jackson
But I mean, Reinsdorf could’ve stepped in and done what was necessary. But he’s consistently loyal to all the wrong people.
Jasper
07-19-2021, 10:01 AM
When you say a team could go 82-0 and win the title that they weren't coming back then you were the cause.
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Xiao Yao You
07-19-2021, 10:07 AM
Yep, most successful GMs who have built multiple dynasties like Jerry West are content to stay in the background, this fat little Jew wanted the same credit the players and PJax got. :facepalm Once you have a generational talent like MJ in your team, it shouldn't take rocket science to surround him with capable teammates. Krause was full of himself, not nearly as good as what he thought he was. He blew up that dynasty and then failed miserably in trying to build another contender, starting with that shitbird Tim Floyd. Ended his days basically back where he started, as a lowly scout for the White Sox :lol F him, he cost the Bulls at least one title, I'm convinced they could've won in '99, especially considering it was a strike shortened season.
strike season probably would have hurt them more than helped them like it did Utah
ScottieQuitting
07-19-2021, 10:11 AM
1999 would’ve been a lock, even if MJ continued to stick up and stick his neck out for Scottie. Even though the trade for McGrady could’ve prolonged his contending for more titles from like 1999 - 2003 when he retired anyway :facepalm
TheMan
07-19-2021, 10:11 AM
strike season probably would have hurt them more than helped them like it did Utah
I don't see what the correlation is between the Jazz not making it through to the Finals in 99 and what the Bulls could've done. Less games, less wear and tear, especially for veteran teams, no?
ScottieQuitting
07-19-2021, 10:16 AM
strike season probably would have hurt them more than helped them like it did Utah
Nah. Their legs needed rest, lockout would’ve actually helped.
But Mike and the breakfast club (Scottie and Harper) would’ve kept in great shape and not let their body deteriorate. Mike was still wanting and ready to play that season before the lockout.
If the old New York Knicks made it to the Finals, sans Ewing?
Chicago would’ve been more than fine. And their strengths would have neutered SA’s strengths and prey on their weakness on the perimeter.
1999 would’ve been a lock for Chicago Bulls winning a 7th, IMO.
Xiao Yao You
07-19-2021, 10:18 AM
I don't see what the correlation is between the Jazz not making it through to the Finals in 99 and what the Bulls could've done. Less games, less wear and tear, especially for veteran teams, no?
the season was compacted. There was less rest once the season started. Was too much for the Jazz old legs
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