[1996] Dennis Rodman: “This league is so filtered and watered down”

[Ne 1]

https://www.deseret.com/1996/1/5/19217469/nba-rosters-diluted-thanks-to-expansion

[coastalmarker99]

Well, he is sort of right as the Bulls wouldn't have even come close to dominating the 1980's as they did in the 1990s as I am not even sure they make 6 finals if they have to play against Bird's Celtics and Moses 76ers.

[coastalmarker99]

The Bulls were going seven games with Ewing who had no real second star alongside him.


So you better believe that Bird and Mchale plus Parish would have been giving the Bulls all they could handle throughout the 1980s in the east.


Then if they get past them they have to face Showtime in the finals who had Kareem who would have feasted going up against the Bulls subpar bigs.

[Micku]

The Bulls were going seven games with Ewing who had no real second star alongside him.


So you better believe that Bird and Mchale plus Parish would have been given the Bulls all they could handle throughout the 1980s in the east.


Then if they get past them they have to face Showtime in the finals who had Kareem who would have feasted going up against the Bulls subpar bigs.

I would think so too.

But the Bulls aren't really a stranger to bigs. They did face Mourning, Shaq and Ewing in 96.

I think they would influence the league earlier playing that slow of a pace and winning before the Pistons, assuming if they played like they did in the 90s. However, the 80s was tough with stacked teams at the top tier. As the article mentioned with Solan and Rodman, you need to have multiple HOFs to win it all usually in the 80s. The talent was more spread out with the expansion.

If the Bulls were to play in the 80s with the championship team, they would probably look a little different. Probably get more talented.

[90sgoat]

Rodman was an alchoholic tranny.

[coastalmarker99]

Rodman was an alchoholic tranny.


He was the most important player for the Bulls during the 1996 finals so what does that say?

[8Ball]

Death sentence to Jordan legacy.

We have been saying this for decades.

Players at the time have been saying it too.



Good find OP. 5 stars

[Jasper]

seems every decade more super stars and all-stars...

Soon the super team will have a core of 5 super stars and never look back

[3ba11]

Well, he is sort of right as the Bulls wouldn't have even come close to dominating the 1980's as they did in the 1990s as I am not even sure they make 6 finals if they have to play against Bird's Celtics and Moses 76ers.


This is true - after the super-team 80's, expansion spread the talent around evenly so 2-star teams could win in the 90's..

So the Bulls wouldn't win in the 80's unless Jordan got more help - he wouldn't need Big 4's like Magic and Bird had, but he'd need more than a low-scoring defender like Pippen.

[kawhileonard2]

https://www.deseret.com/1996/1/5/19217469/nba-rosters-diluted-thanks-to-expansion

He was referring to the mediocre teams. He was used to be in battles that it was easy playing with the GOAT not having a challenge

[Full Court]

Dennis Rodman is definitely the person I would go to for reasoned, cogent analysis.

[TheCorporation]

He's right you know. Didn't the NBA add like six teams in the 90s to water it down and weakened team chemistry. Weak, weak era.

[Bawkish]

He's right you know. Didn't the NBA add like six teams in the 90s to water it down and weakened team chemistry. Weak, weak era.

If someone gave Rodman a time machine and play in this era, he'd probably blew his lid off

[TheCorporation]

If someone gave Rodman a time machine and play in this era, he'd probably blew his lid off

What

[Axe]

Weak era but what's even more amazing is the fact that game 6 of the 1998 finals became the most watched finals game in league history. :oldlol:

He may be a fraud but it gets tiresome when the same shit gets recycled from time to time, just for the sake of pointing out that all of his rings are insignificant.

[iamgine]

I would think so too.

But the Bulls aren't really a stranger to bigs. They did face Mourning, Shaq and Ewing in 96.

I think they would influence the league earlier playing that slow of a pace and winning before the Pistons, assuming if they played like they did in the 90s. However, the 80s was tough with stacked teams at the top tier. As the article mentioned with Solan and Rodman, you need to have multiple HOFs to win it all usually in the 80s. The talent was more spread out with the expansion.

If the Bulls were to play in the 80s with the championship team, they would probably look a little different. Probably get more talented.
That's only due to Magic and Bird though, not because the talent was or wasn't spread out.

[Manny98]

Dennis Rodman is definitely the person I would go to for reasoned, cogent analysis.

Bird, Magic and Barkley and others have also said the 90s was watered down.

The only people acting like the 90s wasn't weaker than other eras are the diehard MJ stans

[nayte]

Bird, Magic and Barkley and others have also said the 90s was watered down.

The only people acting like the 90s wasn't weaker than other eras are the diehard MJ stans

All Stans of any fan base say irrational crap. You should know that by now.lol

[999Guy]

The Bulls were going seven games with Ewing who had no real second star alongside him.


So you better believe that Bird and Mchale plus Parish would have been giving the Bulls all they could handle throughout the 1980s in the east.


Then if they get past them they have to face Showtime in the finals who had Kareem who would have feasted going up against the Bulls subpar bigs.

Chicago handled prime Shaq and Malone.


Parish and McHale aren’t doing shit.

The 80’s were honestly weaker than even the mid to late 90’s.

Just a tad more star power because of Magic and Bird. But the league was much smaller, and the West was truly pathetic.

The NBA has gotten more and more competitive and competent with time. Clear up trend since the 50’s. 90’s aren’t an exception.

[999Guy]

Watering down doesn’t matter. The volume of talent was just clearly higher level and better in 96 than 86. Even if you spread it thinner with 6 more teams.

Now the current NBA has 30 teams and it feels like half of them have a guy who could lead a team to a title.


All eras are shit compared to this one.

[8Ball]

Chicago is 1-1 vs rookie shaq. Not prime shaq.

[nayte]

What do you mean?

[nayte]

It's always funny when you catch a poster in a lie and they can't come and defend it.lol.not the first time for that dude though

[JohnMax]

NBA isn't real, it's fake and scripted like pro-wrestling.

They let older generation stars get their shine first and than kicked them to curb. You think it's a coincidence all stars from 80s retired early? Magic (HIV), Bird (back injury), Isiah (achilles). They probably told them to retire so fan affection could go to someone else and that someone else was Jordan.

[97 bulls]

That's only due to Magic and Bird though, not because the talent was or wasn't spread out.

I can't understand why these people don't see this. The 80s had 4 teams win a championship during that span. The 90s had 4 teams win a championship during their time.

The Western Conference in the 80s was terrible outside of the Lakers. The 80s was mired in a cocaine epedimic in which players were playing high as a kite nightly.

And even still, Rodman is on the record saying the 96 Bulls is the best team ever. And the 90s Bulls is the best dynasty ever.

[Bronbron23]

Bird, Magic and Barkley and others have also said the 90s was watered down.

The only people acting like the 90s wasn't weaker than other eras are the diehard MJ stans

The only problem with the watered down expansion team 90's argument is that every era after that would be effected and watered down just the same. It's weird when proponents of this era use the argument. It shows a huge lack of awareness on their part. The only people who can really use the argument is proponents of the 80's or before.