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And1AllDay
07-13-2021, 12:35 PM
is he getting 45 a night? 50?

3ba11
07-13-2021, 12:37 PM
Byron Russell would guard him and KD would be a 100% jumpshooter in that era of packed paints

coastalmarker99
07-13-2021, 12:38 PM
KD in the Jordan era with the illegal defence rules averages 35 points per game.



That's all I will say, imagine allowing a 7-foot guy to play one vs one all the time because you can't help unless you full double


KD would 100% be a better scorer then than now due to the rules of those eras It's literally the best era for a guy like KD, you have two options, you let him score 40+ a game or you double him and leave someone open at all times.


KD has the ball skills of a guard in a 7 footers body

Guards are too small to defend against him and bigs are too slow.



His height and length is literally his "separation". He has built-in latent separation from defenders cuz he can just shoot over them, even tall long ones like LeBron.

And he's an all-time accurate pure shooter. He's one of 8 members of the 50-40-90 club, and he's the 15th most accurate free-throw shooter of all time.

MadDog
07-13-2021, 12:39 PM
You put Lopez in there like its supposed to mean anything. :oldlol: Most guards would light his ass up on the perimeter. Paul did it in Games 2 and 3.

Great take though, Magoo.

coastalmarker99
07-13-2021, 12:40 PM
Byron Russell would guard him and KD would be a 100% jumpshooter in that era of packed paints

Oh dear lord KD is giving that guy 40 a night.

There's not one shot that KD can't make. He's efficient in every shot.. can pull up beyond the arc, he can spot up and shoot, one-dribble jump shot, fadeaway, one leg you name it.



He's able to get to his spots nearly anywhere on the floor.


Due to his skill at his size, he's always a second or step faster than the defence.




There are guys that can play perfect defence on Durant but it wouldn't matter.

3ba11
07-13-2021, 12:42 PM
Oh dear lord KD is giving that guy 40 a night.

There's not one shot that KD can't make. He's efficient in every shot.. can pull up beyond the arc, he can spot up and shoot, one-dribble jump shot, fadeaway, one leg you name it.



He's able to get to his spots nearly anywhere on the floor.


Due to his skill at his size, he's always a second or step faster than the defence.




There are guys that can play perfect defence on Durant but it wouldn't matter.


KD needs to set up neat little jumpers, which requires spacing, so he wouldn't be as good in prior eras - today's spacing makes everything easier.. The unspaced eras required more power and ad-lib ability.

And1AllDay
07-13-2021, 12:42 PM
You put Lopez in there like its supposed to mean anything. :oldlol: Most guards would light his ass up on the perimeter. Paul did it in Games 2 and 3.

Great take though, Magoo.


low iq :oldlol:

also:
jeff hornacek :oldlol:
john starks :oldlol:
terry porter :oldlol:

stop it

coastalmarker99
07-13-2021, 12:43 PM
Byron Russell is 6 5 in height while KD is 6’11 with a 7’5 wingspan. It would be much harder for him to contest his shot than it is for Jordan.


Plus Byron does not have the physical strength to bother KD.

And1AllDay
07-13-2021, 12:43 PM
KD in the Jordan era with the illegal defence rules averages 35 points per game.



That's all I will say, imagine allowing a 7-foot guy to play one vs one all the time because you can't help unless you full double


KD would 100% be a better scorer then than now due to the rules of those eras It's literally the best era for a guy like KD, you have two options, you let him score 40+ a game or you double him and leave someone open at all times.


KD has the ball skills of a guard in a 7 footers body

Guards are too small to defend against him and bigs are too slow.



His height and length is literally his "separation". He has built-in latent separation from defenders cuz he can just shoot over them, even tall long ones like LeBron.

And he's an all-time accurate pure shooter. He's one of 8 members of the 50-40-90 club, and he's the 15th most accurate free-throw shooter of all time.

bingo

coastalamark is bringing high iq to balance out the low iq of 3baLLLLLL

3ba11
07-13-2021, 12:44 PM
bingo

coastalamark is bringing high iq to balance out the low iq of 3baLLLLLL


everything he said was a lie - illegal defense allowed defenders to play halfway, so his post isn't worth responding to

coastalmarker99
07-13-2021, 12:46 PM
everything he said was a lie - illegal defense allowed defenders to play halfway, so his post isn't worth responding to


KD would be viewed as a GOD if you dropped him in the 1980s and 1990s.


Watching him play against 1980's defences would be hilarious.


If George Gervin averaged 30 and 32 during some seasons in the 1980s then what would KD do.

3ba11
07-13-2021, 12:49 PM
KD would be viewed as a GOD if you dropped him in the 1980s and 1990's.


Watching him play against 1980's defences would be hilarious.


80's defenses had no spacing and packed paints, so his numbers would be worse because he would be a jumpshooter exclusively - he wouldn't be able to enter the paint

dankok8
07-13-2021, 12:50 PM
If Giannis hanging up 34/14/5 on 67 %TS on these Suns what is he doing with Wade and Bosh instead of Middleton and Lopez? 4-peat?

Giannis > LeChoke

/thread

Gudo
07-13-2021, 12:55 PM
KD would have to change his game in the 80s, 90s, 00s

And1AllDay
07-13-2021, 12:58 PM
If Giannis hanging up 34/14/5 on 67 %TS on these Suns what is he doing with Wade and Bosh instead of Middleton and Lopez? 4-peat?

Giannis > LeChoke

/thread

make a thread if you wanna this one is about kd bb boi :oldlol:

got bran on the brain always huh? :oldlol:

ShawkFactory
07-13-2021, 02:04 PM
80's defenses had no spacing and packed paints, so his numbers would be worse because he would be a jumpshooter exclusively - he wouldn't be able to enter the paint

Well great, cause he's one of the best ever at that.

If Kiki Vanderweigh and Alex English and them can score 30 a game in the 80s...so could Kevin Durant.

And1AllDay
07-13-2021, 02:08 PM
is 45 a night out of the question with john starks on a island guarding kd 1 on 1? :oldlol:

what about a 50pc on jeffy hornacek?

ImKobe
07-13-2021, 02:39 PM
is 45 a night out of the question with john starks on a island guarding kd 1 on 1? :oldlol:

what about a 50pc on jeffy hornacek?

What about JJ Barea?

https://i.ytimg.com/vi/fLV1oJ9Sxdk/maxresdefault.jpg

coastalmarker99
07-13-2021, 02:44 PM
What about JJ Barea?

https://i.ytimg.com/vi/fLV1oJ9Sxdk/maxresdefault.jpg


I watched that mismatch between Lebron and Barea and it’s ridiculous how much the bigger players get called for offensive fouls when they back down a mismatch.

It's crazy how many small guys just flop when a guy is posting up now and the refs just give it to them.

Micku
07-13-2021, 03:06 PM
KD would 100% be a better scorer then than now due to the rules of those eras It's literally the best era for a guy like KD, you have two options, you let him score 40+ a game or you double him and leave someone open at all times.


I don't think he'll be a better scorer then than he is now actually. Mostly due to how the defense is played and how offense is set up.

KD sometimes average about nearly or ate 80% at the rim in the RS. These playoffs he average near 70%. The league in general has a better % at the rim than 10 years ago. Let alone 30 years ago. That's because of the spacing and the lane is more open and free. And many teams are playing small ball, so there is less resistance there.

Back then there is no defensive 3 seconds and spacing wasn't as good. And the big men were bigger and could play more physical without getting ejected. It's doubtful he'll average as good % at the rim due to how much they clog the paint. Although it is possible. KD game doesn't at the rim like that.

And another thing thing is the spacing. As pointed you out, you either have single coverage or double. It's a little bit of a common misconception that the defense could not prepare. But you still see the type of defense that MJ went through. He still have go through wall. They were preparing mostly off the ball and definitely when he had the ball. And the bulls were one of the best spacing teams in the league at the time, which still doesn't hold a candle to the amount of space that we have today. Not to mention it's easier to stay with your man back then due to the handchecking rules. You could put two hands on them at the time. Teams now play a drop down defense, and would rather guard the 3 b-ball than let you shoot the 3pt shot and attempt to guard the paint. It lives the mid range range game open. Which guys like cp3, Kawhi and KD live at. Their attempts and their effectiveness increase over time due to the defense letting them have that shot. CP3 mentioned it how over the years they just let him do it. And there is a few videos on it that shows why the spacing lets the midrange specialist become more efficient.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mi2zD-5uu1o

You can see the spacing how it was 10 years ago too in that vid. It was bad in comparison to now. And it was worse in the 90s. His teammates would set up for long 2s instead stretching out to the 3pt line. This lets easier help defense to cover the teammate if the opponent beat their man. Nowadays it's much harder to do that. Not to mention more freedom that perimeter players have.

KD is a player with little weakness on the offensive end. He is one of the best shooters. You can't foul'em cuz he hardly miss at the FT line. Due to his height and his handles, he's one of the most difficult players to guard in nba history. I feel like he'll still be one of the most efficient players in the league if not the most efficient player in the league. He definitely have the potential to lead the league with scoring in any era.

With that said, I don't think he'll have it easier in the 90s than now. Nowadays it's more easier for perimeter players to strive. But for a guy like KD, he'll be a stud no matter what era. He will and still is, one of the most unique players.

He might revolutionize the league with his 3pt shot. lol! But the coach would tell'em to stop it.

RogueBorg
07-13-2021, 03:47 PM
If KD can't average 35 a game now in this higher pace open era where players can't be touched, ain't no way he's averaging 35 in the 90's or 2000's.

ShawkFactory
07-13-2021, 04:17 PM
If KD can't average 35 a game now in this higher pace open era where players can't be touched, ain't no way he's averaging 35 in the 90's or 2000's.

There's a huge difference between can't and doesn't.

And1AllDay
07-13-2021, 04:20 PM
If KD can't average 35 a game now in this higher pace open era where players can't be touched, ain't no way he's averaging 35 in the 90's or 2000's.

uhm? KD did hang 35.4 on 50% vs jrue, giannis, lopez so what he doin to jeff hornacek? 45?

theman93
07-13-2021, 04:27 PM
uhm? KD did hang 35.4 on 50% vs jrue, giannis, lopez so what he doin to jeff hornacek? 45?

If Milwaukee was allowed to get in to Durant's body like defenders were allowed to in the 90's he's not hanging 35. And especially not with such a lower pace.

3ba11
07-13-2021, 04:40 PM
There's a huge difference between can't and doesn't.

Jordan could've averaged 50 back then and now, but since he never actually did it, we just say that he could average 37 back then and maybe 40-45 in today's perimeter format

Similarly, Jordan could've averaged 12+ assists.. But since he never did it, we say that he could average 11 in the Finals and otherwise was a 5-8 assist guy