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ZenMaster7210
07-14-2021, 04:35 PM
Anyone? Different eras but I think it’s pretty even.

TheCorporation
07-14-2021, 04:39 PM
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Gudo
07-14-2021, 04:43 PM
https://youtu.be/d6Jwt00dYHQ

I like klay but the disrespect on horny is ridiculous.

ImKobe
07-14-2021, 04:59 PM
He isn't

title runs

2015: 19/4/3 39%3PT/55.3%TS
2017: 15/4/2 38.7%3PT/50.3%TS
2018: 20/4/2 42.7%3PT/57.9%TS

All he did was shoot 3s and play some defense but he wasn't a better all-around player than Hornacek, who could play the PG role when needed and who was damn near a 50/40/90 guy (51/44/89) while averaging 20/5/5/2 on a 53-win team at his peak.

Orange_Cassidy
07-14-2021, 04:59 PM
its funny cause if the jazz utilize horny more in both finals vs chicago they probly win the series. but they didn't know about the 3 ball glitch era analytics yet


i think those were the years he was back to back 3 point shoot out champion

Bronbron23
07-14-2021, 05:12 PM
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It's not as crazy as it sounds buddy. It's weird how bron stans will use stats to make an argument but they'll ignore ignore them when it's inconvenient for them. Fact of the matter is klay and horn are very close in every area of the game. Rebounds are even although reb in horns era were harder because of more traffic so the edge could be given to horn. Horn was also the better passer. Klay was the better defender. Most people would assume klay is the bettet scorer but even that is alot closer than u think. Efficiency wise they're pretty much even. The only difference is klay shot a few more shots because he plays in an easier scoring era and an era that focuses more on perimeter shooting and where teams shoot way more shots. Klay shoots 17-18 shots a game and scores about 22 points a game. Hirn usually shot around 13 shots a game because the era was more focused on post play. The closest he had ti klay in attempts to klay is 15 shots a game and he averaged 20 points. It didn't effect his efficiency either. He went 44% from 3pt and 51% overall.

I would go with klay by a thin margin but It's alot closer than u think.

ImKobe
07-14-2021, 05:21 PM
its funny cause if the jazz utilize horny more in both finals vs chicago they probly win the series. but they didn't know about the 3 ball glitch era analytics yet


i think those were the years he was back to back 3 point shoot out champion

Yeah, Hornacek could have definitely made 37-38% of his 3s at 4-5 a game, especially with the shortened line in '97. He was a great all-around player & was not used enough as a scorer, same with Stockton. Sloan was a ****ing idiot and also held Deron back. Give MDA the '07 Jazz roster and they probably win it all.

Iverson3
07-14-2021, 09:51 PM
Because Klay put up better numbers in the regular season playoffs and NBA finals. Hornacek averaged 9.7 ppg in the 1998 nba finals. Pretty pathetic for a 2nd scoring option.

3ba11
07-14-2021, 10:00 PM
its funny cause if the jazz utilize horny more in both finals vs chicago they probly win the series. but they didn't know about the 3 ball glitch era analytics yet


i think those were the years he was back to back 3 point shoot out champion


keep that on the low brah

the bulls had no help and any strategic improvement by opponents would've won a lot of those Finals...

or injuries could've also changed the result.. I'm not sure the Bulls win in 1991 if Worthy is healthy and playing like he did in the 87-90' Playoffs (completely dominant)

and they would've been destroyed in 93' if KJ was healthy and playing like he did in 94' and 95' against Hakeem (29/5/9) or when upsetting Magic's 1 seeded Lakers to make the 90' WCF (22/11)

Axe
07-14-2021, 10:15 PM
Hornacek will be just a janitor these days.

HoopsNY
07-14-2021, 10:18 PM
Hornacek was not better than Klay. Klay is the superior defensive player and elite scorer.

HoopsNY
07-14-2021, 10:19 PM
Hornacek will be just a janitor these days.

That's a pretty ridiculous take. If anything, he'd be lighting it up. In Hornacek's peak he could give you 20/5/5 on 50/40/90. So why wouldn't he do that today?

SouBeachTalents
07-14-2021, 10:22 PM
keep that on the low brah

the bulls had no help and any strategic improvement by opponents would've won a lot of those Finals...

or injuries could've also changed the result.. I'm not sure the Bulls win in 1991 if Worthy is healthy and playing like he did in the 87-90' Playoffs (completely dominant)

and they would've been destroyed in 93' if KJ was healthy and playing like he did in 94' and 95' against Hakeem (29/5/9) or when upsetting Magic's 1 seeded Lakers to make the 90' WCF (22/11)
Yep, lots of asterisk titles for Jordan, agreed 100%

Axe
07-14-2021, 10:23 PM
That's a pretty ridiculous take. If anything, he'd be lighting it up. In Hornacek's peak he could give you 20/5/5 on 50/40/90. So why wouldn't he do that today?
Umm they were the ones who said the 90s were filled with car mechanics, plumbers, crack addicts, drunk dudes, grocery baggers, etc. that still made it to the league somehow.

FKAri
07-14-2021, 10:23 PM
Klay would light it up in any era and I'd take him over Hornacek. Not as dynamic but put him next to some stars and he's a killer.


Umm they were the ones who said the 90s were filled with car mechanics, plumbers, crack addicts, drunk dudes, grocery baggers, etc. that still made it to the league somehow.

That was the 80s.

j3lademaster
07-14-2021, 10:25 PM
Klay would light it up in any era and I'd take him over Hornacek. Not as dynamic but put him next to some stars and he's a killer.This. You aren't looking at either of them as someone you can build a winner around, so as a 2nd or 3rd option Klay is superior due to size and defense. And that's with me giving Hornacek the benefit of the doubt and assuming he'd be on Klay's level as a shooter.

AirBonner
07-14-2021, 10:26 PM
Hornacek would be a backup to TJ McConnell in today’s nba

Axe
07-14-2021, 10:26 PM
That was the 80s.
Oh