Which version of Pippen was worse than 2013 and 2014 playoff Wade?

[Pip' N Rodman]

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[ImKobe]

Every single one.

[Pip' N Rodman]

Every single one.


no

[Axe]

Every single one.
You need to judge them by overall impact, not just by ppg numbers alone.

[nayte]

That kinda goes against the whole 7900 points thing doesn't it ?

[Pip' N Rodman]

That kinda goes against the whole 7900 points thing doesn't it ?

What the hell are you talking about

[3ba11]

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every version:


Wade 2013 Finals......... 19.6 on 47%... 4.6 apg.. 2.2 turnovers (outscored opposing #1 option)
Pippen Career Finals'.... 19.0 on 42%... 5.9 apg.. 3.3 turnovers


CONCLUSION - Wade's worst Finals ring > Pippen's average Finals ring

more stats incoming...............

[3ba11]

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Playoffs

13' Wade...... 18.7 PER.. 3.0 bpm.. 1.0 vorp.. 0.108 ws/48
93' Pippen.... 16.9 PER.. 2.0 bpm.. 0.8 vorp.. 0.083 ws/48


Finals

13' Wade............... 19.6 on 47% (outscored opposing #1 option)

96' Pippen............. 15.7 on 34%
97' Pippen............. 19.0 on 42%
98' Pippen............. 15.7 on 41%

Pippen 6 Finals...... 19.0 on 42%



Comparing sidekick help while trying to 3-peat



Playoffs

14' Wade..... 18.5 PER.. 0.086 ws/48.. 1.6 obpm
93' Pippen... 16.9 PER.. 0.083 ws/48.. 1.1 obpm


Per 100 Possessions

14' Wade..... 28.6 pts.. 6.2 ast.. 56.0 ts.. 106 ortg
93' Pippen... 26.2 pts.. 7.4 ast.. 50.0 ts.. 102 ortg

[97 bulls]

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every version:


Wade 2013 Finals......... 19.6 on 47%... 4.6 apg.. 2.2 turnovers (outscored opposing #1 option)
Pippen Career Finals'.... 19.0 on 42%... 5.9 apg.. 3.3 turnovers


CONCLUSION - Wade's worst Finals ring > Pippen's average Finals ring

more stats incoming...............

So what do Wades numbers look like if played in the 90s?

[Hey Yo]

Wade zero All-defensive in 13-14' (didn't in 11 or 12' either)

Pippen was in 96-97-98'

[3ba11]

So what do Wades numbers look like if played in the 90s?


Remember that rookie Wade averaged Pippen stats during the playoffs despite a tougher defensive environment than the 90's - zone and hand-checking were allowed in 2004, yet Wade was still achieving prime Pippen stats and hitting ridiculous clutch game-winners in the playoffs.,, Wade is a near goat-level player that would have 4 rings and 2 FMVP if not for Lebron's choke.. That would be a borderline top 10 resume.

Otoh, only the triangle propped up Pippen - he was a 14 ppg scorer without it

Btw, the stats I posted earlier compared 93' Pippen to old Wade (13' and 14'), yet old Wade still beat him across the board - and if we look at 2012 Wade or before, then Wade blows Pippen away.. 12' Wade had higher BPM, PER and WS/48 than Pippen ever had

[97 bulls]

Remember that rookie Wade averaged Pippen stats during the playoffs despite a tougher defensive environment than the 90's - zone and hand-checking were allowed in 2004, yet Wade was still achieving prime Pippen stats and hitting ridiculous clutch game-winners in the playoffs.,, Wade is a near goat-level player that would have 4 rings and 2 FMVP if not for Lebron's choke.. That would be a borderline top 10 resume.

Otoh, only the triangle propped up Pippen - he was a 14 ppg scorer without it

Btw, the stats I posted earlier compared 93' Pippen to old Wade (13' and 14'), yet old Wade still beat him across the board - and if we look at 2012 Wade or before, then Wade blows Pippen away.. 12' Wade had higher BPM, PER and WS/48 than Pippen ever had

But age doesnt seem to matter with Pippen right? I mean, he was almost 35 when he faced the 67 win Lakers and you don't seem to care about his age, so why is Wades age so important?

But even still, you didn't answer my question. What do Wades numbers look like if he player in the 90s? Let's see how consistent you are.

[3ba11]

But age doesnt seem to matter with Pippen right? I mean, he was almost 35 when he faced the 67 win Lakers and you don't seem to care about his age, so why is Wades age so important?

But even still, you didn't answer my question. What do Wades numbers look like if he player in the 90s? Let's see how consistent you are.


I compared prime Pippen to old Wade, so I'm not sure what your point is - Pippen is getting the break here by being compared to old Wade.

And old Wade averaged 20/5/5 in the 2014 ECF and was equal-scoring partner to Lebron (22/6/6) - so my point is that Wade had 1 bad series in the Finals but was still a 20 ppg scorer through the 2016 Playoffs.. So old Wade would still average 20 alongside MJ in the 90''s particularly because MJ got doubled every play, while Lebron never got doubled..

Btw, Lebron cratered Wade's assists from 7 to 4, while MJ would increase them back to 7 like he did 92' Pippen

[Orange_Cassidy]

i guess the 2 versions of pippen that were a 40/20/60 in the finals

[97 bulls]

I compared prime Pippen to old Wade, so I'm not sure what your point is - Pippen is getting the break here by being compared to old Wade.

And old Wade averaged 20/5/5 in the 2014 ECF and was equal-scoring partner to Lebron (22/6/6) - so my point is that Wade had 1 bad series in the Finals but was still a 20 ppg scorer through the 2016 Playoffs.. So old Wade would still average 20 alongside MJ in the 90''s particularly because MJ got doubled every play, while Lebron never got doubled..

Btw, Lebron cratered Wade's assists from 7 to 4, while MJ would increase them back to 7 like he did 92' Pippen

And yet you still won't answer my question, age shouldn't matter because you don't take Pippens age into consideration when he was 32 in 98. And 32 isn't old.