Kobe Bryant and Lebron James finals defense

[Orange_Cassidy]

Kobe:

reggies 2000 finals = 41%fgs
M Jackson 2000 finals = 41% fg's
iversons 2001 finals = 40%fgs
snow 2001 finals = 40%fgs
mckie 2001 finals = 31%fg's
bell 2001 finals = 30%fg's
kidds 2002 finals = 43%fg's
Hamilton 2004 finals = 40%fg's
prince 2004 finals = 38%fg's
pierce 2008 finals = 43%fg's ( finals MVP )
Rondo 2008 finals = 37%fg's
Alston 2009 finals = 36%fg's
lee 2009 finals = 37%fg's
reddick 2009 finals = 40%fg's
nelson 2009 finals = 34%fg's
pierce 2010 finals = 43%fg's
ray 2010 finals = 36%fg's
tony allen 2010 finals = 33%fg's


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Lebron

Parker - 53% ( finals MVP )
Terry - 50%
Marion - 48%
Dirk - 42% ( finals MVP )
Durant - 55%
Kawhi - 51% 2013
Diaw - 50%
Kawhi - 61% 2014 ( finals MVP )
Manu - 50%
Iguodala - 52% ( finals MVP )
Green - 49% ( should be finals MVP. thanks silver ) 2016
Durant - 56% ( finals MVP ) 2017
Iguodala - 53%
Durant - 53% ( finals MVP ) 2018
Green - 52% 2018
Iguodala - 58% 2018
Butler - 55%


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[Hey Yo]

Why didn't you put up Kobe's defensive numbers in his 6th, 7th and 8th straight Finals appearance?

[Orange_Cassidy]

one of the most underrated parts of kobes game. even without ever scoring a bucket he makes the hall of fame just off his defensive accolades and finals performances on the other side of the ball


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NiyODnD0V5k

[Airupthere]

one of the most underrated parts of kobes game. even without ever scoring a bucket he makes the hall of fame just off his defensive accolades and finals performances on the other side of the ball


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NiyODnD0V5k

That coverage. Look at the space kobe gives kyrie and yet kyrie couldnt make anything happen.

Waiting for the video where a teammate pushes kobe into playing defense. Are there any?

[bison]

So in other words, Kobe clamped up hall of famers on the way to 5 rings, while lebron got bested by scrubs and role players on his way to a near unprecedented 6 finals losses.

Mamba mentality >>> $tat$ mentality when it comes to the finals :applause:

[Orange_Cassidy]

Why didn't you put up Kobe's defensive numbers in his 6th, 7th and 8th straight Finals appearance?

hold on. let me get in my delorean and travel to a timeline where kobe plays in the leastern conference

https://media1.tenor.com/images/91864348b7f277eac0c0436001c97209/tenor.gif?itemid=11295533




just got back... apparently after kobe went to 3 straight finals he left the lakers to join the pistons in 2002-03 and goes to another 5 straight finals.. then he signs with boston and goes to another 5 straight from 2007-08 to 2011-12


amazing what the lebron player empowerment mentality can accomplish. apparently in that alternate dimension kobe is the one that invents it

[ArbitraryWater]

LMAO at just randomly attributing those numbers to Kobe :roll::roll:


more stuff that helps keep up the imagination i guess

[ArbitraryWater]

im also 100% positive you cheated on some of those numbers

that'd be classic kenneth

[Hey Yo]

hold on. let me get in my delorean and travel to a timeline where kobe plays in the leastern conference

https://media1.tenor.com/images/91864348b7f277eac0c0436001c97209/tenor.gif?itemid=11295533




just got back... apparently after kobe went to 3 straight finals he left the lakers to join the pistons in 2002-03 and goes to another 5 straight finals.. then he signs with boston and goes to another 5 straight from 2007-08 to 2011-12


amazing what the lebron player empowerment mentality can accomplish. apparently in that alternate dimension kobe is the one that invents it

Take the Delorean back and see how many rings Kobe wins if he let's Jersey draft him. We'll see how loyal he is after 7yrs of that.

[Orange_Cassidy]

LMAO at just randomly attributing those numbers to Kobe :roll::roll:


more stuff that helps keep up the imagination i guess


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who the f*ck was kobe guarding then?

[Orange_Cassidy]

Take the Delorean back and see how many rings Kobe wins if he let's Jersey draft him. We'll see how loyal he is after 7yrs of that.

kobe proved all he needed was one boarderline allstar sidekick 18ppg player with no success by that player as a #1... and a bunch of scrubs behind them from 3-12

kobe can turn any franchise around. he never needed a shaq to win .. and he especially never needed a loaded team


shannon brown?
sasha vujacic?
adam morrison?
dj mbenga?
jordan farmar?
luke walton?
josh powell?
0 allstar game crackhead tranny prostitute bangin lamar odumb?


i guarantee the nets had more depth than that. and didn't they go to back to back finals? and shaq without kobe never makes the finals since he chokes every big western matchup. kobe would be facing duncan in the finals every year and we all know how those series go

[ArbitraryWater]

https://thumbs.gfycat.com/ActiveCoarseHyrax-size_restricted.gif


who the f*ck was kobe guarding then?


He was sagging off Rondo in 2010, lmao.


You're literally just listing any perimeter player that shot a low % (when players generally shot lower then than today, by the way).

Im sure Kobe guarded nelson/redick/lee/alston in '09 :roll::roll:


And mentioning Rondo for '08 but not '10 :roll:


cmon fool

[Orange_Cassidy]

He was sagging off Rondo in 2010, lmao.


You're literally just listing any perimeter player that shot a low % (when players generally shot lower then than today, by the way).

Im sure Kobe guarded nelson/redick/lee/alston in '09 :roll::roll:


And mentioning Rondo for '08 but not '10 :roll:


cmon fool

https://thumbs.gfycat.com/ActiveCoarseHyrax-size_restricted.gif

[Orange_Cassidy]

Im sure Kobe guarded nelson/redick/lee/alston in '09

kobe takes on all challengers

https://www1.pictures.gi.zimbio.com/NBA+Finals+Game+2+Orlando+Magic+v+Los+Angeles+OsUh QZJZvhYx.jpg

https://media.gettyimages.com/photos/courtney-lee-of-the-orlando-magic-drives-past-kobe-bryant-of-the-los-picture-id84333990?s=612x612

https://media.gettyimages.com/photos/jameer-nelson-of-the-orlando-magic-passes-against-kobe-bryant-of-the-picture-id95861857

https://media.gettyimages.com/photos/rafer-alston-of-the-orlando-magic-shoots-against-pau-gasol-and-kobe-picture-id88488127

[ArbitraryWater]

yea he guarded all of them at the same time and was responsible for all of their low shooting



dumbass **** you are lol


how you been doing this for over a decade

[Orange_Cassidy]

yea he guarded all of them at the same time and was responsible for all of their low shooting



dumbass **** you are lol


how you been doing this for over a decade

ok so pick one or 2. they all got locked up you nitwit

[1987_Lakers]

“Kobe's defense, to be accurate, has faltered in recent years, despite his presence on the league's all-defensive team. The voters have been seduced by his remarkable athleticism and spectacular steals, but he hasn't played sound, fundamental defense." - Phil Jackson

Damn, from Kobe's own coach.

[Orange_Cassidy]

“Kobe's defense, to be accurate, has faltered in recent years, despite his presence on the league's all-defensive team. The voters have been seduced by his remarkable athleticism and spectacular steals, but he hasn't played sound, fundamental defense." - Phil Jackson

Damn, from Kobe's own coach.

yeah by 2011 his knees were finished. he could only pick his spots after that. no doubt he has 2 fake all defensive teams he got off reputation. but he was robbed in 2001 and 2002 for 1st team all defense so it balances out

[hiphopanonymous]

Well yeah, just compare with their effort

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[1987_Lakers]

yeah by 2011 his knees were finished. he could only pick his spots after that. no doubt he has 2 fake all defensive teams he got off reputation. but he was robbed in 2001 and 2002 for 1st team all defense so it balances out

Phil Jackson made that quote in 2004, ouch.

[Hey Yo]

yeah by 2011 his knees were finished. he could only pick his spots after that. no doubt he has 2 fake all defensive teams he got off reputation. but he was robbed in 2001 and 2002 for 1st team all defense so it balances out

Phil's quote was from 2001

[tpols]

Lebron defense is comically overrated. Often times hes put on the weakest offensive player so he can "roam" and get those ESPN chase down blocks once or twice a game. Any star he's ever guarded has gone bonkers. Kobe OTOH embraces challenges and locks guys up.

[Orange_Cassidy]

Phil Jackson made that quote in 2004, ouch.

i dunno i remember phil making a comment after kobe made an all defensive team in 2011 or 2012. can't remember if that ones it. don't really care

but phil during 2004 was seething and already writing his book about kobe being the scum of the earth because he was furious about the rape scandal since phils daughter was raped and he took that frustration out on him publicly

https://www.complex.com/sports/2013/05/phil-jackson-admits-his-opinion-towards-kobe-bryant-changed-after-sexual-assault-accusation

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"i distorted my thought of kobe during the 2003-04 season"



"KOBE SUCKS AT DEFENSE!" - phil jackson 2004

:lol

[Orange_Cassidy]

Phil's quote was from 2001

na it was 2004 during phils self admitted distorted view of kobe

https://i.ibb.co/gmZLHj7/Screen-Shot-2021-07-16-at-4-51-51-PM.png



















dunno why you guys bother. i'm too good



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p88rgHt1NZs&list=RDp88rgHt1NZs&start_radio=1

[1987_Lakers]

I've watched hundreds of Kobe's games, fact is when Shaq left he never put 100% effort on defense, when he wanted to he could lock up someone, but the problem was he was often very lazy on that end, never in the right position and took unnecessary gambles. Any die hard laker fan who watched games during Kobe's prime will tell you that.

[Orange_Cassidy]

I've watched hundreds of Kobe's games, fact is when Shaq left he never put 100% effort on defense, when he wanted to he could lock up someone, but the problem was he was often very lazy on that end, never in the right position and took unnecessary gambles. Any die hard laker fan who watched games during Kobe's prime will tell you that.

the coaches voted for all defensive teams. they know more than you do raccoon boy

[HoopsNY]

Yep. That's why it's always funny when Bran stans, like some of them on this thread like 1987_Lakers, claim "LeBron is the most versatile defender!"

Apparently that excludes his own position. LeBron was never and will never be the defensive presence that MJ and Kobe were. His help defense was elite, but his on the ball defense was never exceptional.

Just wait for the responses. We'll hear about one quarter of LeBron guarding a 32 year old Gasol in a regular season game as somehow being proof of his supposed elite defense and versatility. (Yet no response to the consistent dominance of forwards against him in a plethora of big series).

And there are other forwards you left out who also shined against him. Bran stans are a pack of disingenuous liars. Just look at how they try to diminish Kobe (bringing up a random quote from 2004 and ignoring the body of evidence of Kobe's defensive assignments historically).

[1987_Lakers]

the coaches voted for all defensive teams. they know more than you do raccoon boy

I think his own coach who watched him up close every single game would know.

“Kobe's defense, to be accurate, has faltered in recent years, despite his presence on the league's all-defensive team. The voters have been seduced by his remarkable athleticism and spectacular steals, but he hasn't played sound, fundamental defense." - Phil Jackson

[Orange_Cassidy]

I think his own coach who watched him up close every single game would know.

“Kobe's defense, to be accurate, has faltered in recent years, despite his presence on the league's all-defensive team. The voters have been seduced by his remarkable athleticism and spectacular steals, but he hasn't played sound, fundamental defense." - Phil Jackson

sorry did you miss the part when i debunked any negative public opinion phil had towards kobe in 2004?

he took his kids **** raping by an african american out on kobe in the media and through his book after quitting on the team cause he couldn't stand that rapist

phil later realized he needed that rapist to continue his coaching career and he came crawling back for rings #10 and 11

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-XS9QZ7OJV4Q/TkaXUo9sNUI/AAAAAAAAB3E/iy3uIivLeIs/s1600/coach-phil-jackson-kobe-bryant-championship-hug-gay-lovers-nba-funny-photos.jpg

[1987_Lakers]

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?260277-Better-defender-in-his-prime-Kobe-or-LeBron

Look at this thread, pretty much everyone picking LeBron. I went with a thread from 9 years ago cause posters back then actually watched and knew how overrated Kobe was defensively.

[1987_Lakers]

sorry did you miss the part when i debunked any negative public opinion phil had towards kobe in 2004?

he took his kids **** raping by an african american out on kobe in the media and through his book after quitting on the team cause he couldn't stand that rapist

phil later realized he needed that rapist to continue his coaching career and he came crawling back for rings #10 and 11

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-XS9QZ7OJV4Q/TkaXUo9sNUI/AAAAAAAAB3E/iy3uIivLeIs/s1600/coach-phil-jackson-kobe-bryant-championship-hug-gay-lovers-nba-funny-photos.jpg
https://www.ocregister.com/2008/12/05/phil-says-kobe-should-focus-more-on-team-defense/

“We’re trying to work with Kobe in staying inside the team framework of how we play defense,” Jackson said.

“Because he’s such a good defensive player with great anticipation, sometimes he might take a foray into the steal market and come away empty-handed, which compromises our defense,” Jackson said. “The way we’re playing our defense now, it really does (compromise us), because we overload (one side of the court) and sometimes it leaves us naked.”

Phil Jackson in 2008.

It was a constant criticism I had on Kobe as well.

[Orange_Cassidy]

Look at this thread


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[Orange_Cassidy]

https://www.ocregister.com/2008/12/05/phil-says-kobe-should-focus-more-on-team-defense/

“We’re trying to work with Kobe in staying inside the team framework of how we play defense,” Jackson said.

“Because he’s such a good defensive player with great anticipation, sometimes he might take a foray into the steal market and come away empty-handed, which compromises our defense,” Jackson said. “The way we’re playing our defense now, it really does (compromise us), because we overload (one side of the court) and sometimes it leaves us naked.”

Phil Jackson in 2008.

It was a constant criticism I had on Kobe as well.

phil coached publicly and constantly shit on kobe and shaq just to light a fire under guys


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3MA_hq6tMbI


remember when he said kobe and shaq were like kids in a sandbox saying "you have my toy and i want it back"

he was a master troll. never took him too seriously

hes the original bill belichick

[Orange_Cassidy]

meanwhile heres tim duncans coach. a guy that just tells the truth and doesn't play mind games



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=liIYL7YcePI


a guy that coached tim duncan said kobe was the most tallented defender


https://media1.giphy.com/media/xT1XGxEHCmzlM340hi/giphy.gif

[tpols]

I've watched hundreds of Kobe's games, fact is when Shaq left he never put 100% effort on defense, when he wanted to he could lock up someone, but the problem was he was often very lazy on that end, never in the right position and took unnecessary gambles. Any die hard laker fan who watched games during Kobe's prime will tell you that.

'08 Kobe was their defensive coordinator.


https://youtu.be/2VCVP9L25vk

In the first 3 clips he swats AK47, Tim Duncan, and YAO MING. :oldlol:

Any Lakers fan who spends thousands of posts trashing Kobe and stanning Lebron isn't a Lakers fan. That's called being a bitch and a fake. A weasel.

[dreamshake]

Kobe is miles ahead of LeBron on defense and offense. It’s not even close.

[Orange_Cassidy]

'08 Kobe was their defensive coordinator.


https://youtu.be/2VCVP9L25vk

In the first 3 clips he swats AK47, Tim Duncan, and YAO MING. :oldlol:

Any Lakers fan who spends thousands of posts trashing Kobe and stanning Lebron isn't a Lakers fan. That's called being a bitch and a fake. A weasel.

he was team USA's defensive stopper as well in 2008

then had to turn on full mamba mode and carry the offense in the gold medal game cause lebron shat the bed

[1987_Lakers]

'08 Kobe was their defensive coordinator.


https://youtu.be/2VCVP9L25vk

In the first 3 clips he swats AK47, Tim Duncan, and YAO MING. :oldlol:

Any Lakers fan who spends thousands of posts trashing Kobe and standing Lebron isn't a Lakers fan. You're a weasel.

Yes, because showing a 9 minute clip out of Kobe's 3200 minutes that season proves Kobe was a great defender that year, don't be a dumbass.

Every NBA fan knew Kobe was a lazy defender, constant gambles, constant ball watching, only played great 1 on 1 defense when he wanted to, he was inconsistent as fvck. Please don't start an argument with me tpols, I've made you my bitch numerous times already, best to just walk away.

[tpols]

he was team USA's defensive stopper as well in 2008

then had to turn on full mamba mode and carry the offense in the gold medal game cause lebron shat the bed

Yup he busted his ass off on defense when he knew he wouldn't have to carry an offense due to Olympic talent.


https://youtu.be/6IRfQOIcU9A

[tpols]

Yes, because showing a 9 minute clip out of Kobe's 3200 minutes that season proves Kobe was a great defender that year, don't be a dumbass.

Every NBA fan knew Kobe was a lazy defender, constant gambles, constant ball watching, only played great 1 on 1 defense when he wanted to, he was inconsistent as fvck. Please don't start an argument with me tpols, I've made you my bitch numerous times already, best to just walk away.

:roll:

Yea everybody knew Kobe sucked at defense that's why he was all defense for many years.

You're a little weasel looking clown as usual. And not a Lakers fan. We need to put a change name request into the mods. Get you transitioning. :lol

[1987_Lakers]

:roll:

Yea everybody knew Kobe sucked at defense that's why he was all defense for many years.

You're a little weasel looking clown as usual. And not a Lakers fan. We need to put a change name request into the mods. Get you transitioning. :lol

“Kobe's defense, to be accurate, has faltered in recent years, despite his presence on the league's all-defensive team. The voters have been seduced by his remarkable athleticism and spectacular steals, but he hasn't played sound, fundamental defense." - Phil Jackson

/thread

[MadDog]

Kobe was an overrated defender, but gave WAY more effort on that end than LeBron.


'08 Kobe was their defensive coordinator.

Any Lakers fan who spends thousands of posts trashing Kobe and stanning Lebron isn't a Lakers fan. That's called being a bitch and a fake. A weasel.

That guy is a "Lakers" fan? :oldlol: Idk anyone repping L.A. who shits on Kobe. They're loyal through thick and thin.

[Spurs m8]

hold on. let me get in my delorean and travel to a timeline where kobe plays in the leastern conference

https://media1.tenor.com/images/91864348b7f277eac0c0436001c97209/tenor.gif?itemid=11295533




just got back... apparently after kobe went to 3 straight finals he left the lakers to join the pistons in 2002-03 and goes to another 5 straight finals.. then he signs with boston and goes to another 5 straight from 2007-08 to 2011-12


amazing what the lebron player empowerment mentality can accomplish. apparently in that alternate dimension kobe is the one that invents it

Ahhaaahhhahahahahhh

These losers can't use the free trip to the finals, as some sort of legacy boost.

Multiple collusions in the LEast isn't an achievement

Especially when you're embarrassed - more often than not - once you reach your Western opponent...it just proves - even further - how watered down your conference was

And you're a loser who can't get it done when it matters.
While handing your opponent the fmvp.

Loser.

[Orange_Cassidy]

Yes, because showing a 9 minute clip out of Kobe's 3200 minutes that season proves Kobe was a great defender that year, don't be a dumbass.

Every NBA fan knew Kobe was a lazy defender, constant gambles, constant ball watching, only played great 1 on 1 defense when he wanted to, he was inconsistent as fvck. Please don't start an argument with me tpols, I've made you my bitch numerous times already, best to just walk away.

all time leader in 1st team defensive awards

every finals matchup locked up

2008 gold medal as defensive stopper

embarrassed lebron multiple times with all time clamp down highlights

yes kobe took plays off when he was dropping 50/60+ to save his legs

yes kobe declined after 15 years in the league

yes kobes coach hated him in 2004 and criticized him publicly for being a rapist through books and defensive critiques

yes some insidehoops trolls think lebrons better

yes you and them don't matter

the end

[1987_Lakers]

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?260277-Better-defender-in-his-prime-Kobe-or-LeBron


I can honestly say that at times I feel like Kobe is placed on the All-Defensive 1st Team simply because of his name and not because of his defense. Don't get me wrong here. Kobe is a great defensive player, but he's probably been an All-Defensive 1st Team player a handful of times in his career. More of a 2nd Team guy imo.

I think LeBron is the better defender simply because his height can, does and will ward off offensive players a bit, making them rethink their shots, rethink driving into the lane, rethink passing the ball anywhere in the lanes.

This Laker fan knows, problem is most people want to be bias towards their teams and players, but I'm not having that.

I will always be objective to the truth no matter what.

[1987_Lakers]

Kobe was an overrated defender



All I needed to hear.

[Orange_Cassidy]

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?260277-Better-defender-in-his-prime-Kobe-or-LeBron



This Laker fan knows, problem is most people want to be bias towards their teams and players, but I'm not having that.

I will always be objective to the truth no matter what.

oh well if someone thinks kobe deserved 2nd team some years instead of 1st team then its more than obvious kobe sucks d*ck

its settled then







https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FkMWsO_-X7Y

[MadDog]

All I needed to hear.

Kobe definitely was. But for a supposed Lakers fan you're intent on throwing shade. Why? Lol. Kobe gave more effort on defense than LeBron did, whose taken plays off for years. He just quit on defense this last playoff run. Why don't we hear that from you. :confusedshrug:

[Orange_Cassidy]

All I needed to hear.

you gonna be ok little buddy?

https://thumbs.dreamstime.com/z/female-paramedic-gives-oxygen-mask-to-injured-man-sitting-ambulance-car-205120103.jpg

[tpols]

Kobe was an overrated defender, but gave WAY more effort on that end than LeBron.



That guy is a "Lakers" fan? :oldlol: Idk anyone repping L.A. who shits on Kobe. They're loyal through thick and thin.

Never seen it before myself. Its a damn shame.

[Orange_Cassidy]

Kobe definitely was. But for a supposed Lakers fan you're intent on throwing shade. Why? Lol. Kobe gave more effort on defense than LeBron did, whose taken plays off for years. He just quit on defense this last playoff run.

hes 30 and never watched the lakers

hes been following lebron since he started watching the nba

no way a 10 year old watched the lakers back in 2000 and liked shaq/hated kobe. makes no sense. thats some old man sh*t. hes a fraud

[1987_Lakers]

Kobe definitely was. But for a supposed Lakers fan you're intent on throwing shade. Why? Lol. Kobe gave more effort on defense than LeBron did, whose taken plays off for years. He just quit on defense this last playoff run. Why don't we hear that from you. :confusedshrug:

LeBron's defensive peak is far superior, far better help/team defender, more size which allowed him to guard multiple positions, & a far better rim protector. Only advantage Kobe has on him in man defense, but Kobe never played elite man defense on a consistent level, yes as LeBron aged he stopped caring about defense, but both at their defensive peaks LeBron was simply the more highly regarded defender and it isn't even close.

[Orange_Cassidy]

LeBron's defensive peak is far superior, far better help/team defender, more size which allowed him to guard multiple positions, & a far better rim protector. Only advantage Kobe has on him in man defense, but Kobe never played elite man defense on a consistent level, yes as LeBron aged he stopped caring about defense, but both at their defensive peaks LeBron was simply the more highly regarded defender and it isn't even close.

why isn't your name 2004_Cavs

isn't that when you became an NBA fan



and lebron was never a great on ball defender. hes more of a chase down block artist and passing lane defender

hence all his finals matchups having historic shooting percentages

[tpols]

hes 30 and never watched the lakers

hes been following lebron since he started watching the nba

no way a 10 year old watched the lakers back in 2000 and liked shaq/hated kobe. makes no sense. thats some old man sh*t. hes a fraud

Hes a transgender Lakers fan. We need to contact the mods to help him transition to another team he thinks he is.

[1987_Lakers]

hes 30 and never watched the lakers

hes been following lebron since he started watching the nba

no way a 10 year old watched the lakers back in 2000 and liked shaq/hated kobe. makes no sense. thats some old man sh*t. hes a fraud

I fell in love with the Lakers seeing Shaq dominate, Kobe was an after thought to me, yes he was a great player in his own right, but always thought of him as inferior wannabe MJ.

[1987_Lakers]

Hes a transgender Lakers fan. We need to contact the mods to help him transition to another team he thinks he is.

I know you're upset cause I called you out when you said Jason Kidd carried the Mavs to the Finals in 2011, but don't be upset with me, be mad at your own low IQ self that would make such a terrible statement to begin with.

[1987_Lakers]

why isn't your name 2004_Cavs

isn't that when you became an NBA fan



and lebron was never a great on ball defender. hes more of a chase down block artist and passing lane defender

hence all his finals matchups having historic shooting percentages

Wrong, LeBron was locking up MVP rose and a prime Tony Parker in the Finals, he could play very high level man defense if asked too.

[tpols]

I fell in love with the Lakers seeing Shaq dominate, Kobe was an after thought to me, yes he was a great player in his own right, but always thought of him as inferior wannabe MJ.

You didn't see shit boy.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Bxdja2PCUAA63RV.jpg

Now you need to change your name.

[1987_Lakers]

You didn't see shit boy.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Bxdja2PCUAA3RV.jpg

Now you need to change your name.

Ive been on this forum longer than you, I joined during Kobe's peak, I saw all of Kobe's prime and came away very unimpressed.

Now post their 2000 Finals numbers when Kobe averaged 15 ppg on like 30% shooting. We all know Shaq was the undisputed best player on those 3 peat teams and it wasn't even close.

[Orange_Cassidy]

I fell in love with the Lakers seeing Shaq dominate, Kobe was an after thought to me, yes he was a great player in his own right, but always thought of him as inferior wannabe MJ.

no you didn't. you were 10 back then. what 10 year old likes watching ugly back down hooks and air ball free throws

you never were a lakers fan. you made your name 1987 lakers because you were originally posing as a wise student of the game with no affiliation with lebron or the cavs so you could seem like you were a truth teller when you would trash kobe and hype up lebron...


you never have anything positive to say about shaq unless its an anti kobe post. post your collection of shaq memorabilia right now with you holding it

you were 10 so you would have had all kinds of stuff from birthdays and christmas. show us your collection of shaq cards lol

show us your original 90's lakers jersey

not a throw back from china.. i want the OG sh*t you grew up with

https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/gQoAAOSwRG1grw-Y/s-l400.jpg


i bet you got one of these instead

https://ik.imagekit.io/r16kltudm/game7/pub/media/catalog/product/2/0/2006-10_cavs_james_23_adidas_swing_alt_front_.jpg

:roll:

[ScottieQuitting]

Hes a transgender Lakers fan. We need to contact the mods to help him transition to another team he thinks he is.

Any relation to the poster 97bulls? Both throw shade at MJ/Kobe, prop up whatever teammate of theirs to undeserving levels … and both knob slob LeBron from afar. Hmm

[tpols]

I saw all of Kobe's prime and came away very unimpressed.


:lol

Mods... can we PLEASE give this man/woman a name change. He needs to complete his transition to feel okay.

[Orange_Cassidy]

Ive been on this forum longer than you, I joined during Kobe's peak, I saw all of Kobe's prime and came away very unimpressed.

Now post their 2000 Finals numbers when Kobe averaged 15 ppg on like 30% shooting. We all know Shaq was the undisputed best player on those 3 peat teams and it wasn't even close.

what do you think my original name is on here lol

i think my first account on here was in 2006 as griffmoney1984, griffmoneyx1984, kennygriff or something like that

i was on espn boards too

[1987_Lakers]

no you didn't. you were 10 back then. what 10 year old likes watching ugly back down hooks and air ball free throws

you never were a lakers fan. you made your name 1987 lakers because you were originally posing as a wise student of the game with no affiliation with lebron or the cavs so you could seem like you were a truth teller when you would trash kobe and hype up lebron...


you never have anything positive to say about shaq unless its an anti kobe post. post your collection of shaq memorabilia right now with you holding it

you were 10 so you would have had all kinds of stuff from birthdays and christmas. show us your collection of shaq cards lol

show us your original 90's lakers jersey

not a throw back from china.. i want the OG sh*t you grew up with

https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/gQoAAOSwRG1grw-Y/s-l400.jpg


i bet you got one of these instead

https://ik.imagekit.io/r16kltudm/game7/pub/media/catalog/product/2/0/2006-10_cavs_james_23_adidas_swing_alt_front_.jpg

:roll:

Actually, I joined as '87 Lakers cause I loved that team, I used to have every Finals laker DVD from the 80's, I could still name the Lakers 12 man roster from that '87 season off the top of my head, I actually started watching basketball when Shaq was dominating.

Everyone talked about Shaq, all the students, all of media etc, Kobe was somewhat of an afterthought, hell kids preferred Iverson over him growing up, all I saw was this giant of a man getting buckets anytime the ball went down low to him, I was absolutely mesmerized by him. Meanwhile I saw Kobe brick shot after shot and kept thinking to myself, "Why is this dude shooting the ball, give it to Shaq you damn moron". Even then as a kid I knew Shaq was playing at a legendary level and he was carrying the Lakers despite Kobe's horrific performance.

[Orange_Cassidy]

Actually, I joined as '87 Lakers cause I loved that team, I used to have every Finals laker DVD from the 80's, I could still name the Lakers 12 man roster from that '87 season off the top of my head, I actually started watching basketball when Shaq was dominating.

Everyone talked about Shaq, all the students, all of media etc, Kobe was somewhat of an afterthought, hell kids preferred Iverson over him growing up, all I saw was this giant of a man getting buckets anytime the ball went down low to him, I was absolutely mesmerized by him. Meanwhile I saw Kobe brick shot after shot and kept thinking to myself, "Why is this dude shooting the ball, give it to Shaq you damn moron". Even then as a kid I knew Shaq was playing at a legendary level and he was carrying the Lakers despite Kobe's horrific performance.

yeah and i like the 1927 yankees and babe ruth. doesn't mean i was ever truly a yankee fan. you're a f*cking fraud

[1987_Lakers]

:lol

Mods... can we PLEASE give this man/woman a name change. He needs to complete his transition to feel okay.

Says the man child with a cartoon as his avatar. :lol

[1987_Lakers]

yeah and i like the 1927 yankees and babe ruth. doesn't mean i was ever truly a yankee fan. you're a f*cking fraud

You cheered Kobe's death and abandoned your daughter, who's the fraud here?

[SouBeachTalents]

Actually, I joined as '87 Lakers cause I loved that team, I used to have every Finals laker DVD from the 80's, I could still name the Lakers 12 man roster from that '87 season off the top of my head, I actually started watching basketball when Shaq was dominating.

Everyone talked about Shaq, all the students, all of media etc, Kobe was somewhat of an afterthought, hell kids preferred Iverson over him growing up, all I saw was this giant of a man getting buckets anytime the ball went down low to him, I was absolutely mesmerized by him. Meanwhile I saw Kobe brick shot after shot and kept thinking to myself, "Why is this dude shooting the ball, give it to Shaq you damn moron". Even then as a kid I knew Shaq was playing at a legendary level and he was carrying the Lakers despite Kobe's horrific performance.
When Kobe got the team to himself, where did he rank in the league to you from '06-'10, did you ever think he was the BITW? And out of curiosity, just based on peak, which players since 2000 besides LeBron/Shaq/Duncan do you think were better than Kobe?

[ScottieQuitting]

Actually, I joined as '87 Lakers cause I loved that team, I used to have every Finals laker DVD from the 80's, I could still name the Lakers 12 man roster from that '87 season off the top of my head, I actually started watching basketball when Shaq was dominating.

Everyone talked about Shaq, all the students, all of media etc, Kobe was somewhat of an afterthought, hell kids preferred Iverson over him growing up, all I saw was this giant of a man getting buckets anytime the ball went down low to him, I was absolutely mesmerized by him. Meanwhile I saw Kobe brick shot after shot and kept thinking to myself, "Why is this dude shooting the ball, give it to Shaq you damn moron". Even then as a kid I knew Shaq was playing at a legendary level and he was carrying the Lakers despite Kobe's horrific performance.
Kobe had horrific performances? Shaq never won shit without the games 2nd and 3rd best SG … EVER. Kobe was the one constantly carrying his fat lazy ass in the clutch. Or when he was losing games. Had him traded, Lakers picked Kobe over him, went to 3 more championships and won 2 more rings. Shaq got another riding Flash’s coattails.

[Orange_Cassidy]

You cheered Kobe's death and abandoned your daughter, who's the fraud here?

kobes death boosted his career. that's how dedicated I am. still waiting for your shaq memorabilia.. come on man.. you gotta have one of these at the very least mr shaq fan

https://i.ibb.co/tZtjPWL/20210716-181021.jpg

[tpols]

Kobe had horrific performances? Shaq never won shit without the games 2nd and 3rd best SG … EVER. Kobe was the one constantly carrying his fat lazy ass in the clutch. Or when he was losing games. Had him traded, Lakers picked Kobe over him, went to 3 more championships and won 2 more rings. Shaq got another riding Flash’s coattails.

Its amazing he thought Kobe was horrific while averaging 30 a game on elite efficiency. And pertaining to this topic All NBA defense. The fella (?) is messed up and confused maybe.

I propose 1987_Cavs. They had a budding mark price and went on to be decent. Then the weasel gets to Stan bran all he wants.

[Orange_Cassidy]

Kobe had horrific performances? Shaq never won shit without the games 2nd and 3rd best SG … EVER. Kobe was the one constantly carrying his fat lazy ass in the clutch. Or when he was losing games. Had him traded, Lakers picked Kobe over him, went to 3 more championships and won 2 more rings. Shaq got another riding Flash’s coattails.

this is true

shaq got swept or gentleman swept every single year he didn't have an elite kobe or d wade


and with wade he averaged 13 in the finals behind Antoine walker as 3rd option.. and it was a legit 13. not some fake average like kobe in 2000 cause of an injury lmao

[1987_Lakers]

When Kobe got the team to himself, where did he rank in the league to you from '06-'10, did you ever think he was the BITW? And out of curiosity, just based on peak, which players since 2000 besides LeBron/Shaq/Duncan do you think were better than Kobe?

I came away very unimpressed with Kobe in 2005, it was a disastrous season for him, now I will say Kobe from '06-'08 took it to another level, at very worse I had him below Duncan in '06 & '07 and maybe an argument for best player in the league, and I did have Kobe as the league's best player in 2008. 2009 is the year where LeBron surpassed him as a player, Kobe got the chip, but he had superior teams to LeBron. I would probably even take 2009 & 2010 Wade over Kobe, I saw them as the same caliber level of players to be honest.

And just based on peak you can make an argument for KD, Wade, Curry, McGrady, KG all being better than Kobe, of course career wise is a different topic.

[Orange_Cassidy]

I came away very unimpressed with Kobe in 2005, it was a disastrous season for him, now I will say Kobe from '06-'08 took it to another level, at very worse I had him below Duncan in '06 & '07 and maybe an argument for best player in the league, and I did have Kobe as the league's best player in 2008. 2009 is the year where LeBron surpassed him as a player, Kobe got the chip, but he had superior teams to LeBron. I would probably even take 2009 & 2010 Wade over Kobe, I saw them as the same caliber level of players to be honest.

And just based on peak you can make an argument for KD, Wade, Curry, McGrady, KG all being better than Kobe, of course career wise is a different topic.

post your Shaq gear or shut the f*ck up raccoon boy

[1987_Lakers]

post your Shaq gear or shut the f*ck up raccoon boy

Meltdown

[Orange_Cassidy]

Meltdown

"I grew up a shaq fan"

has nothing related to shaq in his possession

at age 10 you were watching pokemon and dragon ball z. you weren't a basketball fan till your idol leroid James made the nba finals

you tossed out your gameboy color and pokemon games and said "this means something.. this is important"

https://i.pinimg.com/564x/44/c1/32/44c132bdd6b5f8aed56e865e4f69ad81--weird-al-videos-oral-history.jpg

[Hey Yo]

You didn't see shit boy.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Bxdja2PCUAA63RV.jpg

Now you need to change your name.

LOL @ the Spurs geriatric backcourt that year.

[Orange_Cassidy]

LOL @ the Spurs geriatric backcourt that year.

most of kobes points came in the paint that series over duncan and robinson. he wasn't that long jumper guy yet. he would hit a few each game but mostly he was attacking

[tpols]

"I grew up a shaq fan"

has nothing related to shaq in his possession

at age 10 you were watching pokemon and dragon ball z. you weren't a basketball fan till your idol leroid James made the nba finals

you tossed out your gameboy color and pokemon games and said "this means something.. this is important"

https://i.pinimg.com/564x/44/c1/32/44c132bdd6b5f8aed56e865e4f69ad81--weird-al-videos-oral-history.jpg

To be fair I just turned 30 and was a Nets fan at the time in question. I hated Kobe and Shaq and always rooted for the kings because a fans natural reaction when watching a series is to root for the underdog. I did it then and I do it now in other sports. But in the later 2000s Nets became ass and I started focusing on the league in general. There I saw how GOAT Kobe was. Defense and offense. Ultimate warrior.

[Orange_Cassidy]

To be fair I just turned 30 and was a Nets fan at the time in question. I hated Kobe and Shaq and always rooted for the kings because a fans natural reaction when watching a series is to root for the underdog. I did it then and I do it now in other sports. But in the later 2000s Nets became ass and I started focusing on the league in general. There I saw how GOAT Kobe was. Defense and offense. Ultimate warrior.

at least you're honest. this 1987 dude that was born in 1991 and started watching basketball in 2007 brags about being a fan of the showtime lakers and shaquille o'neal during his prime

its utterly pathetic lol


i broke this dudes brain so bad hes bumping 9 year old threads and replying to guys that don't even post here anymore saying "i agree"

:roll:

[Hey Yo]

Chico... They had Tim Duncan and David Robinson. Tu eres muy.... muy estupido.

37yr old Terry Porter, 35yr old midget Avery Johnson, 34yr old extremely un-athletic Danny Ferry...

[Orange_Cassidy]

37yr old Terry Porter, 35yr old midget Avery Johnson, 34yr old extremely un-athletic Danny Ferry...

how exactly do you remember kobe scoring his points vs sanantonio back then


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WQxgHgRh95Y

[tpols]

at least you're honest. this 1987 dude that was born in 1991 and started watching basketball in 2007 brags about being a fan of the showtime lakers and shaquille o'neal during his prime

its utterly pathetic lol


i broke this dudes brain so bad hes bumping 9 year old threads and replying to guys that don't even post here anymore saying "i agree"

:roll:

Yea its hilarious to name yourself after a team that you weren't even a gleam in your fathers eye years before you even existed. It screams fraud. I've NEVER heard of a Lakers fan that hated Kobe or was "thoroughly unimpressed" by him. This dude might be Kate Faber. :oldlol:

[Hey Yo]

this is true

shaq got swept or gentleman swept every single year he didn't have an elite kobe or d wade


and with wade he averaged 13 in the finals behind Antoine walker as 3rd option.. and it was a legit 13. not some fake average like kobe in 2000 cause of an injury lmao

2000 Kobe was elite??

[SouBeachTalents]

2000 Kobe was elite??
He wasn't quite the superstar he'd be the next season, but he was for sure a top 10 player. What constitutes "elite" to you, top 5?

[Hey Yo]

how exactly do you remember kobe scoring his points vs sanantonio back then


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WQxgHgRh95Y

If Derek Fisher can go 15-20 from 3 for the series, you really think Kobe is going to go inside for the majority of his FGA??

[Hey Yo]

He wasn't quite the superstar he'd be the next season, but he was for sure a top 10 player. What constitutes "elite" to you, top 5?

Elite / Superstar is basically the same to me.

[1987_Lakers]

at least you're honest. this 1987 dude that was born in 1991 and started watching basketball in 2007 brags about being a fan of the showtime lakers and shaquille o'neal during his prime

its utterly pathetic lol


i broke this dudes brain so bad hes bumping 9 year old threads and replying to guys that don't even post here anymore saying "i agree"

:roll:

I bumped that thread to show you how people thought of Kobe's defense at that time, being that mostly everyone in that thread saw Kobe's prime, and as it shows...Kobe's defense was nothing to brag about.

People today may not remember, but the true students of the game like myself remember how undeserving those All-Defensive teams were for Kobe.

[dreamshake]

1987_Lakers once made a thread on here about how he stole money from EDD unemployment. Don’t believe anything this guy writes.

[1987_Lakers]

1987_Lakers once made a thread on here about how he stole money from EDD unemployment. Don’t believe anything this guy writes.

lies

[LAL]

Actually, I joined as '87 Lakers cause I loved that team, I used to have every Finals laker DVD from the 80's, I could still name the Lakers 12 man roster from that '87 season off the top of my head, I actually started watching basketball when Shaq was dominating.

Everyone talked about Shaq, all the students, all of media etc, Kobe was somewhat of an afterthought, hell kids preferred Iverson over him growing up, all I saw was this giant of a man getting buckets anytime the ball went down low to him, I was absolutely mesmerized by him. Meanwhile I saw Kobe brick shot after shot and kept thinking to myself, "Why is this dude shooting the ball, give it to Shaq you damn moron". Even then as a kid I knew Shaq was playing at a legendary level and he was carrying the Lakers despite Kobe's horrific performance.

Shaq was getting and shooting the ball as many times as he did in Orlando?

[RogueBorg]

Phil Jackson made that quote in 2004, ouch.

That doesn't mean that's what Phil thought the rest of Kobe's career.

[1987_Lakers]

Shaq was getting and shooting the ball as many times as he did in Orlando?

Watch the 2004 Finals and you will know what I'm saying.

[HoopsNY]

LeBron's defensive peak is far superior, far better help/team defender, more size which allowed him to guard multiple positions, & a far better rim protector. Only advantage Kobe has on him in man defense, but Kobe never played elite man defense on a consistent level, yes as LeBron aged he stopped caring about defense, but both at their defensive peaks LeBron was simply the more highly regarded defender and it isn't even close.

Man defense > Help defense and Kobe was > LeBron in that.


Wrong, LeBron was locking up MVP rose and a prime Tony Parker in the Finals, he could play very high level man defense if asked too.

When did he lock up prime Parker? And I guess he was never asked to play a high level of man defense against guys like Kawhi, KD, Butler, Iguodala, etc, (i.e, his OWN position)?

The excuses continue to pile up on the bogus myth that LeBron is a "versatile" defender against all 5 positions.

[RRR3]

Man defense > Help defense and Kobe was > LeBron in that.



When did he lock up prime Parker? And I guess he was never asked to play a high level of man defense against guys like Kawhi, KD, Butler, Iguodala, etc, (i.e, his OWN position)?

The excuses continue to pile up on the bogus myth that LeBron is a "versatile" defender against all 5 positions.
Retarded. Also LeBron was a better man defender on a wider variety of players so irrelevant if Kobe was slightly better against small guards.

[HoopsNY]

That doesn't mean that's what Phil thought the rest of Kobe's career.

Bingo. Anyone can come along and pick random quotes about a specific player from a specific year. It's what 3ball does when he quotes players pre 1991 about Pippen. Does that mean we eliminate the entire body of work just based off of that? Of course not.

Granted, I do believe Kobe was an overrated defensive player, but so has LeBron over the course of his career. He gets praised for individual moments like chase down blocks and gets overlooked for consistency through 18 seasons of play, particularly over the bogus myth of him being versatile against all five positions.

We hear it all the time, but Bran stans ignore him getting torched by his own position.

[HoopsNY]

Retarded.

Why? Help defense is important, don't get me wrong. But moving off of your assignment allows for the offensive player to remain open and spread the floor.

Bird was an excellent help defensive player, but his best defense came when he was a PF and made his name off of man defense. The same for guys like Hakeem, Jordan, GP, Mutombo, Duncan, KG, Dumars, etc.

[RRR3]

Bingo. Anyone can come along and pick random quotes about a specific player from a specific year. It's what 3ball does when he quotes players pre 1991 about Pippen. Does that mean we eliminate the entire body of work just based off of that? Of course not.

Granted, I do believe Kobe was an overrated defensive player, but so has LeBron over the course of his career. He gets praised for individual moments like chase down blocks and gets overlooked for consistency through 18 seasons of play, particularly over the bogus myth of him being versatile against all five positions.

We hear it all the time, but Bran stans ignore him getting torched by his own position.
Literally all available metrics show LeBron was significantly better than Kobe on defense. You’re just butthurt LeBron is close to MJ so you talk up Kobe who you don’t see as a threat.

[RRR3]

Why? Help defense is important, don't get me wrong. But moving off of your assignment allows for the offensive player to remain open and spread the floor.

Bird was an excellent help defensive player, but his best defense came when he was a PF. The same for guys like Hakeem, Jordan, GP, Mutombo, Duncan, KG, Dumars, etc.
Well it’s certainly more important in today’s game. I guess you’re just used to 90s caveman ball where they just dumped it to one guy to post up for 20 seconds on an island with no help defense allowed. Stop watching old VHS tapes gramps.

[1987_Lakers]

Man defense > Help defense and Kobe was > LeBron in that.



When did he lock up prime Parker? And I guess he was never asked to play a high level of man defense against guys like Kawhi, KD, Butler, Iguodala, etc, (i.e, his OWN position)?

The excuses continue to pile up on the bogus myth that LeBron is a "versatile" defender against all 5 positions.

Did you not watch the 2013 Finals? LeBron put the clamps on Parker whenever he was on him.

[1987_Lakers]

Why? Help defense is important, don't get me wrong. But moving off of your assignment allows for the offensive player to remain open and spread the floor.

This is something Kobe did routinely, he often left his man and over helped on the offensive player with the ball which resulted in his original assignment to drain an open shot, Kobe routinely did this shit, constant over helping and putting his team in danger.

[1987_Lakers]

And Parker was not past his prime, he averaged 20 ppg that year which was the 2nd most he's ever averaged and an All-star.

[HoopsNY]

Did you not watch the 2013 Finals? LeBron put the clamps on Parker whenever he was on him.

I did. But I remember Parker having a severely strained hamstring. It came to the point that he even said that he felt like it would tear at any moment. So, I'm not sure why you would rely on that series as proof of him locking up Parker.

[1987_Lakers]

I did. But I remember Parker having a severely strained hamstring. It came to the point that he even said that he felt like it would tear at any moment. So, I'm not sure why you would rely on that series as proof of him locking up Parker.

And he conveniently went back to playing at an All-star level whenever Chalmers was on him, funny how that works.

He had a grade 1 strain, which is the lowest level of injury, lol at believing it was going to tear.

[RRR3]

And he conveniently went back to playing at an All-star level whenever Chalmers was on him, funny how that works.

He had a grade 1 strain, which is the lowest level of injury, lol at believing it was going to tear.
Desperate to keep LeBron away from MJ :oldlol:

I see right through the poor fella.


MJ fans love Kobe cuz he’s not a threat.

[Orange_Cassidy]

Desperate to keep LeBron away from MJ :oldlol:

I see right through the poor fella.


MJ fans love Kobe cuz he’s not a threat.

this message board really only has one MJ fan. most have moved on with their lives knowing their guy can't be caught. only 3ball is still somehow insecure. dunno why. sh*t even I'm comfortable with kobes status to the point where I can leave for 2 years and not give a f*ck.

I never really see any true MJ fans giving any of Jeff or Steve's troll posts much thought. its mostly people like me who come in and destroy them.


and btw by your logic that would mean lebron fans see kobe as their main threat still because honestly I see them trashing kobe far more than they do jordan

like this 2007_cavs poster that pretends to be a showtime Lakers fan.. I've never seen him trash mj.. just kobe




you too.. its really only the biggest trolls who have the audacity to mention MJs name in the same sentence as leturd

[RRR3]

I don’t even read your posts Kenneth. Literally no one takes you seriously you’re most notable for being the only person Jeff actually consistently bans these days. Type up another wall of text I assure you I’m not reading it.

[RRR3]

And he conveniently went back to playing at an All-star level whenever Chalmers was on him, funny how that works.

He had a grade 1 strain, which is the lowest level of injury, lol at believing it was going to tear.
Chalmers was a good defender too.

[1987_Lakers]

this message board really only has one MJ fan. most have moved on with their lives knowing their guy can't be caught. only 3ball is still somehow insecure. dunno why. sh*t even I'm comfortable with kobes status to the point where I can leave for 2 years and not give a f*ck.

You cheered Kobe's death cause you thought it would enhance his legacy, if that isn't insecurity then I don't know what is. We all know you are a mental midget when it comes to Kobe, which is one of the reasons why I love messing with you whenever you bring him up.

[Orange_Cassidy]

I don’t even read your posts Kenneth. Literally no one takes you seriously you’re most notable for being the only person Jeff actually consistently bans these days. Type up another wall of text I assure you I’m not reading it.

i guess that means i'm right since you pulled the "what? i don't care! i don't even like you! this thread sucks anyway. hope you get banned again :( " card...

[RRR3]

You cheered Kobe's death cause you thought it would enhance his legacy, if that isn't insecurity then I don't know what is. We all know you are a mental midget when it comes to Kobe, which is one of the reasons why I love messing with you whenever you bring him up.
Don’t forget he’s a deadbeat dad and a racist. Just an all around scumbag.

[Orange_Cassidy]

You cheered Kobe's death cause you thought it would enhance his legacy, if that isn't insecurity then I don't know what is. We all know you are a mental midget when it comes to Kobe, which is one of the reasons why I love messing with you whenever you bring him up.

i don't like kobe as a person. never have. i only ever worshipped his game

hes a god on the basketball court but a true scumbag in real life.

i don't worship men. i worship talent. him dying meant more to his career being given the respect it deserves. the media nearly destroyed his legacy with the constant bashing and low all time ranking they would bust out every year. his death saved him from becoming another rick barry, kareem abdul jabbar afterthought buried out of spite. i was personally satisfied with what he accomplished and knew somewhere down the line the media would give up their agenda. but with kobes death it jumpstarted the healing process probably 20 years ahead of schedule... and even then i doubt 20 years from now kobe has a major award named after him. his name will never be forgotten now. 60 years from now lebron will be as popular as elgin baylor or bob cousy is today.. but kobe will be talked about every year on allstar weekend. you can't buy that kind of publicity

oh yeah and i'm also glad kobe never lived long enough to become another BLM anti white liberal progressive pro china race baiting sell out cuck like lebron

[Orange_Cassidy]

Don’t forget he’s a deadbeat dad and a racist. Just an all around scumbag.

you know for someone that doesn't care about my presence here you sure do hang onto my every word

and the woman decided not to tell me the kid was mine till age 9. i'm still contemplating whether or not to get a dna test. only found out the other guy wasn't her dad this past month


and everyones a little racist. its built into our dna and genetic memory. its more about tolerance than blind trust. i barely trust my brother

[kuniva_dAMiGhTy]

87 getting his Laker chain snatched. Yeeesh bro, ease up on the Bean hate. :lol

On another note... Anyone else get the creeps when Griff fawns over Kobe's death? I get the whole legacy ordeal, but at least act like you got some integrity. You gotta be one sick, twisted mother****er to be 'glad' Kobe passed.

[RRR3]

87 getting his Laker chain snatched. Yeeesh bro, ease up on the Bean hate. :lol

On another note... Anyone else get the creeps when Griff fawns over Kobe's death? I get the whole legacy ordeal, but at least act like you got some integrity. You gotta be one sick, twisted mother****er to be 'glad' he passed.
Tbh I think anyone who has read enough of Kenny’s posts over the years should have concluded he is literally a psychopath, so not sure why anyone would be surprised. There’s very few posters I think are actual psychopaths tbh, but he’s number one. I’m pretty positive.

[kuniva_dAMiGhTy]

Tbh I think anyone who has read enough of Kenny’s posts over the years should have concluded he is literally a psychopath, so not sure why anyone would be surprised. There’s very few posters I think are actual psychopaths tbh, but he’s number one. I’m pretty positive.

Either that or some form of autism. His lack of awareness is what gets me.

Imagine typing that even as a joke. A 'normal' person would need a shower, asap.

[1987_Lakers]

87 getting his Laker chain snatched. Yeeesh bro, ease up on the Bean hate. :lol

On another note... Anyone else get the creeps when Griff fawns over Kobe's death? I get the whole legacy ordeal, but at least act like you got some integrity. You gotta be one sick, twisted mother****er to be 'glad' Kobe passed.

Ease up? This guy set our franchise back almost 5 years by signing a contract extension which allowed him to steal over 70 million over 3 years when he already was done as a player, not that I blame him, I would do the same, but he set our franchise back, we should have been in rebuild mode after 2013, Kobe stalled all of that.

Luckily for Laker fans, LeBron came in and won us a chip, so it all worked out in the end.

[RRR3]

Either that or some form of autism. His lack of awareness is what gets me.

Imagine typing that even as a joke. A normal person would need a shower, asap.
Autism doesn't equal no empathy which is what Kenneth has clearly displayed for years. It’s more of that autistic people have trouble perceiving and understanding others emotions through nonverbal cues the way neurotypical people do. But they have empathy for sure. Psychopaths do not.

[Orange_Cassidy]

Tbh I think anyone who has read enough of Kenny’s posts over the years should have concluded he is literally a psychopath, so not sure why anyone would be surprised. There’s very few posters I think are actual psychopaths tbh, but he’s number one. I’m pretty positive.



so i'm a psychopath because i say racism is genetics that kept your ancestors alive before tribes started integrating and migrating peacefully? that process took 100,000 years and you think that shits a learned behavior? lol. nobody should be given respect automatically just because they're a difference skin colour. i've never given full trust and respect to some stranger just cause they were white. that sh*ts earned not given. society actually wants people to feel totally comfortable around someone of a different colour and background when i don't even feel that way for another human other than maybe my parents.


the truth doesn't care about your feelings. i'm a logic based person. i never lie

and its also not a lie that kobes death improved his legacy. i'm just straight up about it. is it insensitive? of course. but i'm not a sensitive person

[1987_Lakers]

so i'm a psychopath because i say racism is genetics that kept your ancestors alive before tribes started integrating and migrating peacefully? that process took 100,000 years and you think that shits a learned behavior? lol. nobody should be given respect automatically just because they're a difference skin colour. i've never given full trust and respect to some stranger just cause they were white. that sh*ts earned not given. society actually wants people to feel totally comfortable around someone of a different colour and background when i don't even feel that way for another human other than maybe my parents.


the truth doesn't care about your feelings. i'm a logic based person. i never lie

and its also not a lie that kobes death improved his legacy. i'm just straight up about it. is it insensitive? of course. but i'm not a sensitive person

No, you're a psychopath for saying you would nuke an entire country if it meant it would enhance Kobe's legacy, you actually said this.

[kuniva_dAMiGhTy]

Ease up? This guy set our franchise back almost 5 years by signing a contract extension which allowed him to steal over 70 million over 3 years when he already was done as a player, not that I blame him, I would do the same, but he set our franchise back, we should have been in rebuild mode after 2013, Kobe stalled all of that.

Luckily for Laker fans, LeBron came in and won us a chip, so it all worked out in the end.

Kobe helped get y'all 5 titles. In 4 of them, he played like a damn superstar.

You sound crazy as fukk lol

[RRR3]

No, you're a psychopath for saying you would nuke an entire country if it meant it would enhance Kobe's legacy, you actually said this.
Kenneth honestly terrifies me. Most of the trolls here are just funny and/or stupid, but he’s honestly truly evil. Horrifying stuff, glad I don’t know him IRL.

[1987_Lakers]

Kenneth honestly terrifies me. Most of the trolls here are just funny and/or stupid, but he’s honestly truly evil. Horrifying stuff, glad I don’t know him IRL.

Yea, this is all fun and games to me, but a few weeks ago he went on this weird rant and proceeded to type an essay saying how much he hates me as a person just cause I trashed Kobe's game, it was super bizarre to say the least.

[Orange_Cassidy]

Ease up? This guy set our franchise back almost 5 years by signing a contract extension which allowed him to steal over 70 million over 3 years when he already was done as a player, not that I blame him, I would do the same, but he set our franchise back, we should have been in rebuild mode after 2013, Kobe stalled all of that.

Luckily for Laker fans, LeBron came in and won us a chip, so it all worked out in the end.

thats total nonsense. you were a lebron fan by 2013/14. you had no affiliation to the team whatsoever. you were 10 years old the last time you supposedly cheered for the lakers and you never cheered for them again till what? 2019? and why would you want the lakers to retool and surround kobe with a great roster anyway. you were rooting against him remember.

and kobe did take a pay cut. he could have gotten 35 million and took 25 million instead. and a few years later guys are getting 40 million. and who exactly were the lakers gonna get if kobe took a tim duncan deal. name the free agents that wanted to play with a 1 legged kobe without knowing if he would recover

and personally i considering taking massive pay cuts to stack a team is just as bad as colluding like lebron. its dishonest. kobe was paid for his market value to a team as a business partnership. he sold out arenas and merchandise. he got the lakers their multi billion dollar tv deal. he realistically should have been paid 100 million

and btw the lakers tanking 3 straight years with kobe rehabbing got them all kinds of great picks. and all those picks have turned into stars or borderline ones. the lakers honestly would have been better off going forward with that crew than selling them all out for 1 fake bubble title with leroid and a stolen anthony davis.

[Hey Yo]

Man defense > Help defense and Kobe was > LeBron in that.



When did he lock up prime Parker? And I guess he was never asked to play a high level of man defense against guys like Kawhi, KD, Butler, Iguodala, etc, (i.e, his OWN position)?

The excuses continue to pile up on the bogus myth that LeBron is a "versatile" defender against all 5 positions.

Kawhi won FMVP due to his offense? Same with Iggy? Who else would have done a better job while expected to anchor both ends of the floor?

Who else is expected to stop KD in their 7th and 8th consecutive Finals appearance, while expected to anchor both ends?

[Orange_Cassidy]

No, you're a psychopath for saying you would nuke an entire country if it meant it would enhance Kobe's legacy, you actually said this.

depends on the country


north korea, iran, china, mexico... pretty much anywhere that is a serious threat to world safety or has cartels/jihadists beheading people.

sure many innocent people would die. but many more could feel safe in a new world going forward. the needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few or the one

https://media.tenor.com/images/2b7f7af58da477ad4e2b7ea044c1807e/tenor.gif

[Orange_Cassidy]

Yea, this is all fun and games to me, but a few weeks ago he went on this weird rant and proceeded to type an essay saying how much he hates me as a person just cause I trashed Kobe's game, it was super bizarre to say the least.

it was to get you to expose who you really were. it worked


all i had to do was continue calling you a 60 year old

[1987_Lakers]

thats total nonsense. you were a lebron fan by 2013/14. you had no affiliation to the team whatsoever. you were 10 years old the last time you supposedly cheered for the lakers and you never cheered for them again till what? 2019? and why would you want the lakers to retool and surround kobe with a great roster anyway. you were rooting against him remember.

and kobe did take a pay cut. he could have gotten 35 million and took 25 million instead. and a few years later guys are getting 40 million. and who exactly were the lakers gonna get if kobe took a tim duncan deal. name the free agents that wanted to play with a 1 legged kobe without knowing if he would recover

and personally i considering taking massive pay cuts to stack a team is just as bad as colluding like lebron. its dishonest. kobe was paid for his market value to a team as a business partnership. he sold out arenas and merchandise. he got the lakers their multi billion dollar tv deal. he realistically should have been paid 100 million

and btw the lakers tanking 3 straight years with kobe rehabbing got them all kinds of great picks. and all those picks have turned into stars or borderline ones. the lakers honestly would have been better off going forward with that crew than selling them all out for 1 fake bubble title with leroid and a stolen anthony davis.

Sad that the only memorable Kobe moment after he tore his Achilles was his final game where it took him 50 shot attempts to reach 60 points, I was doing back flips that day, not because of Kobe's 60 points, but because I knew the reign of terror was over, I will forever be grateful to LeBron for joining us, making us competitive again and proceeding to have an all-time great playoffs and bringing home the chip.

[Orange_Cassidy]

Sad that the only memorable Kobe moment after he tore his Achilles was his final game where it took him 50 shot attempts to reach 60 points, I was doing back flips that day, not because of Kobe's 60 points, but because I knew the reign of terror was over, I will forever be grateful to LeBron for joining us, making us competitive again and proceeding to have an all-time great playoffs and bringing home the chip.


this didn't happen

[SouBeachTalents]

depends on the country


north korea, iran, china, mexico... pretty much anywhere that is a serious threat to world safety or has cartels/jihadists beheading people.

sure many innocent people would die. but many more could feel safe in a new world going forward. the needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few or the one

https://media.tenor.com/images/2b7f7af58da477ad4e2b7ea044c1807e/tenor.gif
https://media1.tenor.com/images/ad2dab346abaea4713f9f2e02d97c16c/tenor.gif?itemid=16273376

[1987_Lakers]

this didn't happen

LeBron in his first Finals appearance as a laker proceeded to have a better series than all of Kobe's Final appearances. Pathetic.

[Orange_Cassidy]

https://media1.tenor.com/images/ad2dab346abaea4713f9f2e02d97c16c/tenor.gif?itemid=16273376

what country are you from. because last i checked you lived in the one that dropped 2 nukes on japan because you felt it would benefit the world going forward


sh*t i'd drop a nuke on china right now for free. they've been turning canada and the united states into a socialist nightmare for a while now with their globalist goons pulling the strings on every politician, big tech company and media outlet

sometimes war is a necessary evil


how many more of your top celebrities and politicians do you want turning into this


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zre2p7mg64g

[And1AllDay]

Says the man child with a cartoon as his avatar. :lol


You cheered Kobe's death and abandoned your daughter, who's the fraud here?


throw
the damn

toweLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL


:oldlol:

[Orange_Cassidy]

LeBron in his first Finals appearance as a laker proceeded to have a better series than all of Kobe's Final appearances. Pathetic.

lebron in his first year as a laker missed the playoffs. he even came back and activated playoff mode and lost like 10 out of 13 games to bottom feeders in the east then the media said his groin didn't heal but he was moving around quite well

then he stole anthony davis through collusion with rich paul and clutch sports and davis led the lakers in nearly every category all year and through the first 3 rounds.

lebron then hijacked finals mvp by hogging the ball against an injured 5th seed miami heat squad that they probly sweep if davis continues to be the #1 guy.

then a year after that lebron got outperformed by little devin booker and eliminated from the playoffs in the first round

so lebron never truly did anything you mentioned. he was mostly just along for the ride in their 1 competitive season since he joined LA

you knock kobe for having an 18ppg sidekick. then you say lebron carried them when davis averaged 28ppg on 57% fgs during that bubble b*tch playoff run

[1987_Lakers]

lebron in his first year as a laker missed the playoffs. he even came back and activated playoff mode and lost like 10 out of 13 games to bottom feeders in the east then the media said his groin didn't heal but he was moving around quite well

then he stole anthony davis through collusion with rich paul and clutch sports and davis led the lakers in nearly every category all year and through the first 3 rounds.

lebron then hijacked finals mvp by hogging the ball against an injured 5th seed miami heat squad that they probly sweep if davis continues to be the #1 guy.

then a year after that lebron got outperformed by little devin booker and eliminated from the playoffs in the first round

so lebron never truly did anything you mentioned. he was mostly just along for the ride in their 1 competitive season since he joined LA

you knock kobe for having an 18ppg sidekick. then you say lebron carried them when davis averaged 28ppg on 57% fgs during that bubble b*tch playoff run

Kobe in his first year without Shaq won 34 games and as a team finished dead last in defense, this is the guy you say is a better defender than LeBron? It got so bad that he demanded a trade, "Trade me, I can't do it alone".

LeBron on the other hand has proven he can take teams to the Finals by himself as evident by 2018, for Kobe it was constant first round exits.

[Hey Yo]

James first year, besides his own injury, Ingram, Ball, Rondo and Hart missed 100+ games. Ingram missed the last 19 + others throughout the season.

[Orange_Cassidy]

James first year, besides his own injury, Ingram, Ball, Rondo and Hart missed 100+ games. Ingram missed the last 19 + others throughout the season.

wait.. but i thought lebron could carry bums to the finals. are you saying he can't even carry them to the playoffs in the west?


kobe at least did it in 2006 and 2007


b-b-b-ut ...ooohhohoh blocked by james?

( insert dance gif? )

[Orange_Cassidy]

Kobe in his first year without Shaq won 34 games and as a team finished dead last in defense, this is the guy you say is a better defender than LeBron? It got so bad that he demanded a trade, "Trade me, I can't do it alone".

LeBron on the other hand has proven he can take teams to the Finals by himself as evident by 2018, for Kobe it was constant first round exits.

all i know is kobe with kwame and smush in the starting lineup made the playoffs in 2006 and 2007 and came 1 rebound from eliminated the 2nd seed

the 2005 season was kind of a no win situation after rudy T stepped down. that derailed everything. with him the team was 24-19

when frank hamblin took over they went 10-29... obvious tank job orders sent down by head office


with lebron however they were legit trying to make the playoffs in 2019

[Hey Yo]

wait.. but i thought lebron could carry bums to the finals. are you saying he can't even carry them to the playoffs in the west?


kobe at least did it in 2006 and 2007


b-b-b-ut ...ooohhohoh blocked by james?

( insert dance gif? )

The denial is strong.

LeBron had that team secured in the playoffs before his injury... in his 16th straight season.

Kobe was in his prime when leading to last place + B2B 8th seeds to first round exits.

Then demanded the trade.

[1987_Lakers]

all i know is kobe with kwame and smush in the starting lineup made the playoffs in 2006 and 2007 and came 1 rebound from eliminated the 2nd seed

the 2005 season was kind of a no win situation after rudy T stepped down. that derailed everything. with him the team was 24-19

when frank hamblin took over they went 10-29... obvious tank job orders sent down by head office


with lebron however they were legit trying to make the playoffs in 2019

And LeBron made the Finals with Love averaging 15 on 39% & JR Smith 9 on 35% shooting.

Lamar Odom alone in 2006 & 2007 was a superior player than all of LeBron's teammates combined in 2018, Odom in those years was averaging 19/12 in those playoff runs.

No excuses.

[Orange_Cassidy]

The denial is strong.

LeBron had that team secured in the playoffs before his injury... in his 16th straight season.

Kobe was in his prime when leading to last place + B2B 8th seeds to first round exits.

Then demanded the trade.

when lebron went down the lakers were the 4 seed and separated from the 9th seed by 2 games. nothing was certain

and kobe demanded a trade because phil told kobe they passed on a trade for jason kidd involving andrew bynum and that jerry buss was waiting on him to develop and using kobe to sell tickets until then. they had no intention on winning and were in full franchise tank mode for 3 straight years. kobe got them to the playoffs twice out of his own will


they did the same thing in 2014 to 2016. they had no intention of trying to win. kobe was just there to sell tickets again. lebron better watch out. that buss family are a shady group of greedy individuals

they let glen rice go after the 2000 title just to save a few million on the cap. they're a historically cheap family

[Orange_Cassidy]

And LeBron made the Finals with Love averaging 15 on 39% & JR Smith 9 on 35% shooting.

Lamar Odom alone in 2006 & 2007 was a superior player than all of LeBron's teammates combined in 2018, Odom in those years was averaging 19/12 in those playoff runs.

No excuses.

only because they rigged the indiana and boston series


do you watch any games? seriously lol

[kawhileonard2]

Kobe was a much better defender than Lebron. Lebron had several guys who had won finals mvp over him and outplayed him.

[Orange_Cassidy]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nki9C70-e7M


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bj5Ym4lPLCw


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KycmnZUMcfM

[Orange_Cassidy]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3UvPSZLbV94


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kpxNvRCzxds


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tfoFInnVsUU

:roll:

[Orange_Cassidy]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l36rKwdDHwQ


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7v9zS2SWXn4


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9nzgFGwpUFY

:roll:

[Orange_Cassidy]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JcMnX8QHrNk


maybe 2007_cavs really never watched a game before. who the f*ck brags about this

[SouBeachTalents]

Weird the refs would rig it for the Cavs all playoffs only to ruin their only chance at making the Finals competitive :lol


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hqgvjqqg-m4

[1987_Lakers]

Weird the refs would rig it for the Cavs all playoffs only to ruin their only chance at making the Finals competitive :lol


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hqgvjqqg-m4

:oldlol:

[Orange_Cassidy]

Weird the refs would rig it for the Cavs all playoffs only to ruin their only chance at making the Finals competitive :lol


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hqgvjqqg-m4

would you have tuned in if it was warriors vs Jayson tatum

[RRR3]

Weird the refs would rig it for the Cavs all playoffs only to ruin their only chance at making the Finals competitive :lol


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hqgvjqqg-m4
That was the most rigged shit I’ve ever seen. I’m biased but god damn that game was literally stolen from Cleveland.

[Orange_Cassidy]

this shits actually comical. you flipflop from saying lebron didnt have enough help in 2019 and 2021 to saying lebron can carry bums to the finals in 2018

which one is it. make up your damn minds you nitwits


just accept rhe reality that the difference was east vs west and refs helping vs refs not helping. it has nothing to do with lebron

[SouBeachTalents]

would you have tuned in if it was warriors vs Jayson tatum
That's a terrible Finals :lol But the entire planet knew those Finals were OVER after the Cavs lost Game 1. So I just find it strange you believe the refs rigged it for the Cavs all playoffs, then did a complete 180 and ruined their best chance as a colossal underdog to make the Finals a competitive series

[Hey Yo]

when lebron went down the lakers were the 4 seed and separated from the 9th seed by 2 games. nothing was certain

and kobe demanded a trade because phil told kobe they passed on a trade for jason kidd involving andrew bynum and that jerry buss was waiting on him to develop and using kobe to sell tickets until then. they had no intention on winning and were in full franchise tank mode for 3 straight years. kobe got them to the playoffs twice out of his own will


they did the same thing in 2014 to 2016. they had no intention of trying to win. kobe was just there to sell tickets again. lebron better watch out. that buss family are a shady group of greedy individuals

they let glen rice go after the 2000 title just to save a few million on the cap. they're a historically cheap family

Lakers deliberately tanked... but still made the 8th seeds

Give it up griffmonkey

[Orange_Cassidy]

That was the most rigged shit I’ve ever seen. I’m biased but god damn that game was literally stolen from Cleveland.

don't even need to watch the video. I actually saw all of these playoff games. I dont need highlights. I know that game 1 should have ended in a lebron game winning walk off. he chickened out again as usual and he himself along with jr smith both forgot to call timeout. lebron was right next to a ref. his own utter shame caused him to quit OT and just accept defeat. he quit and took his 2nd finals sweep.

you can cry about lebron possibly deserving a gentleman sweep. that changes nothing. warriors win the series regardless because lebron can't put up 50 every game. he drove away kyrie by belittling him and he quit on his franchise for a 3rd straight time. lebron is the ultimate loser. and the ultimate quitter.. a reeeal Munson

[Hey Yo]

this shits actually comical. you flipflop from saying lebron didnt have enough help in 2019 and 2021 to saying lebron can carry bums to the finals in 2018

which one is it. make up your damn minds you nitwits


just accept rhe reality that the difference was east vs west and refs helping vs refs not helping. it has nothing to do with lebron

Which starters and bench players in 2018 missed 100+ games?

Cavs down 3-2 .... Love gets concussed early in game 6 and didn't score. Then missed game 7, in Boston, then James as the underdog came out on top.

[8Ball]

These threads make me sad.

Kobe is dead and we still have his stans try to bump him into the top 10.

Ain't happening.

LeBron over less number of years has more MVPs. More finals mvp. More all nba teams. More points. More rebounds. More assists. Kobe is knocking on top 10 door, he ain't getting in.

RIP kobe.

[Orange_Cassidy]

Lakers deliberately tanked... but still made the 8th seeds

Give it up griffmonkey

and kobe had to drop 81 just to beat teams like the Raptors that year. they definitely tanked in 2005 after the Rudy T step down. can't go from that far over .500 to that far below it naturally.

as for 06 and 07 I know for a fact buss wasn't trying to compete. it's a factual news story with Phil exposing his convos with buss to kobe. you can look them up. why are you disputing common knowledge

[Orange_Cassidy]

Which starters and bench players in 2018 missed 100+ games?

Cavs down 3-2 .... Love gets concussed early in game 6 and didn't score. Then missed game 7, in Boston, then James as the underdog came out on top.

when lebron activated playoff mode in 2019 he expected the refs and league to carry him to the playoffs like they carried him past Indiana and Boston a year before. it didn't happen. that was the difference

[8Ball]

All the media gate keepers have kobe outside the top 5.

[Orange_Cassidy]

These threads make me sad.

Kobe is dead and we still have his stans try to bump him into the top 10.

Ain't happening.

LeBron over less number of years has more MVPs. More finals mvp. More all nba teams. More points. More rebounds. More assists. Kobe is knocking on top 10 door, he ain't getting in.

RIP kobe.


go away jeff/steve. nobody cares. go make an all time playoff points thread or something

[1987_Lakers]

These threads make me sad.

Kobe is dead and we still have his stans try to bump him into the top 10.

Ain't happening.

LeBron over less number of years has more MVPs. More finals mvp. More all nba teams. More points. More rebounds. More assists. Kobe is knocking on top 10 door, he ain't getting in.

RIP kobe.

Amen brother

[Hey Yo]

when lebron activated playoff mode in 2019 he expected the refs and league to carry him to the playoffs like they carried him past Indiana and Boston a year before. it didn't happen. that was the difference

Dumb...... you could use a TDK bailout right now

[Orange_Cassidy]

Amen brother

well we both know where you and steve/jeff put kobe all time

but remind me where wade/kyrie/AD have kobe/jordan/lebron all time

:lol

[Orange_Cassidy]

Dumb


dude.. its not like lebron was facing the cream of the crop during his playoff mode activation

he activated it on fabruary 20th

https://i.ibb.co/9p43FXG/Screen-Shot-2021-07-16-at-11-47-03-PM.png


since then

loss to pelicans
loss to memphis
loss to milwaukee
loss to phoenix
loss to clippers
loss to denver
loss to boston
loss to toronto
loss to knicks
loss to brooklyn


after that he shut down for the season

[8Ball]

All this effort Kenny and kobe still top 10.

Didn't move the needle.

[kawhileonard2]

Weird the refs would rig it for the Cavs all playoffs only to ruin their only chance at making the Finals competitive :lol


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hqgvjqqg-m4

I don't see the issue here. All legit calls.

[Orange_Cassidy]

you could use a TDK bailout right now

LMD?

let me know when grizz dies btw

[Orange_Cassidy]

All this effort Kenny and kobe still top 10.

Didn't move the needle.

you f*cked up your post. quick. edit it to say "not top 10"

[8Ball]

He right there in the top 10, sometimes top 12 depending on criterias.

10 000 more posts won't change it.

[Hey Yo]

100+ man games missed.

[1987_Lakers]

OP right now...

https://thumbs.dreamstime.com/z/female-paramedic-gives-oxygen-mask-to-injured-man-sitting-ambulance-car-205120103.jpg


:roll:

[Orange_Cassidy]

He right there in the top 10, sometimes top 12 depending on criterias.

10 000 more posts won't change it.

i don't really care where the media ranks kobe. they had him 12th before. now 9th or so... these are the same people that left him completely off their ballot during his best years for league mvp. i don't put much stock into their lists. i only go by the opinions of current and past players/coaches

they all pretty much have kobe top 5 or better

[Orange_Cassidy]

OP right now...

https://thumbs.dreamstime.com/z/female-paramedic-gives-oxygen-mask-to-injured-man-sitting-ambulance-car-205120103.jpg


:roll:

is that my pic that drove you to dig up 10 year old threads and reply to dead people? you've been saving it for a while huh... glad it made a lasting impression on you

[SouBeachTalents]

I don't see the issue here. All legit calls.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HXSLukqfYwM&t=9s

[Orange_Cassidy]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HXSLukqfYwM&t=9s

wow someones angry about getting swept in the finals 3 years ago


you'd think lebron fans would be used to it since it wasn't his first go around

[1987_Lakers]

is that my pic that drove you to dig up 10 year old threads and reply to dead people? you've been saving it for a while huh... glad it made a lasting impression on you

That's you after getting nuked by this forum, we will NOT allow Kobe in the top 10, sorry bucko. Bron will forever be ahead of Bean, deal with it.

[Orange_Cassidy]

That's you after getting nuked by this forum, we will NOT allow Kobe in the top 10, sorry bucko. Bron will forever be ahead of Bean, deal with it.

i don't get it. didn't this forum just vote kobe over lebron

you can't even gang up and rig shit correctly

:roll:

[FatrickChewing]

LeBron will always be rank higher than Kobe. OP is a fakkit.

[Orange_Cassidy]

LeBron will always be rank higher than Kobe. OP is a fakkit.

we asked Dwyane Wade, Kyrie Irving and Anthony Davis and they all determined that was a lie

https://i.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/newsfeed/001/222/682/dc6.jpg

[tpols]

what country are you from. because last i checked you lived in the one that dropped 2 nukes on japan because you felt it would benefit the world going forward


That's kinda an ether south beach. Can't be repping USA and freaking out on countries dropping nukes. Were literally the only country ever to offensively use a nuke.

[SouBeachTalents]

That's kinda an ether south beach. Can't be repping USA and freaking out on countries dropping nukes. Were literally the only country ever to offensively use a nuke.
Where was I repping the US dropping nukes? I literally never said that :lol

[nayte]

This thread is a blast. Kenneth was on a rampage. Taking down guys left and right .l:roll:

[MadDog]

That's you after getting nuked by this forum, we will NOT allow Kobe in the top 10, sorry bucko. Bron will forever be ahead of Bean, deal with it.

But Kobe was rated over LeBron in ISH's recent poll. :oldlol:

[8Ball]

This thread is a blast. Kenneth was on a rampage. Taking down guys left and right .l:roll:

He did all that work and lying and Kobe still top 10-12 and Bron still top 2 all time.

[8Ball]

i don't really care where the media ranks kobe. they had him 12th before. now 9th or so... these are the same people that left him completely off their ballot during his best years for league mvp. i don't put much stock into their lists. i only go by the opinions of current and past players/coaches

they all pretty much have kobe top 5 or better

Wrong.

You had a meltdown and got you account banned here when Kobe was ranked 12th on espn.


Sorry Kenny. No matter how much work you put in Kobe aint getting higher than top 10.

[kawhileonard2]

Kobe would lock up the best player.