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3ba11
07-17-2021, 03:30 PM
finish off this career ball-dominating loser.. end CP3's misery

end this ball-dominator's career the same way all ball-dominators finish their careers - LOSERS WITH NO RINGS (unless they demanded to play with Kareem or formed super-teams)

Pip' N Rodman
07-17-2021, 04:43 PM
Jordan gave the same message to the mob in 1993

Manny98
07-17-2021, 04:48 PM
Jordan gave the same message to the mob in 1993
:roll:

Overdrive
07-17-2021, 05:35 PM
The moment Giannis wins some chips you're gonna jump on him talking about his ball dominance and how great Middleton was compared to Pippen. You're awful.

outofstomach
07-17-2021, 05:36 PM
Jordan gave the same message to the mob in 1993

:lol

3ba11
07-17-2021, 05:39 PM
The moment Giannis wins some chips you're gonna jump on him talking about his ball dominance and how great Middleton was compared to Pippen. You're awful.


I'll give credit to Giannis for learning to win (organic), so he'll be superior to KD or Lebron, who only learned to team-hop.

But sure, what he's doing doesn't compare to Jordan because Giannis has an equal-scoring partner - only Jordan won a bunch of chips while dominating the scoring distribution (6 carry-jobs)

SouBeachTalents
07-17-2021, 05:41 PM
The moment Giannis wins some chips you're gonna jump on him talking about his ball dominance and how great Middleton was compared to Pippen. You're awful.
That's what makes him such a fakkit, it's a literal non stop agenda. Let's be real, he doesn't give a FCK about CP3 :oldlol: He's just using him to push his anti LeBron/Magic agenda. And he flip flops like a bitch constantly, just a couple days ago CP3 was the "mid range king" or some bullshit, which of course proved Jordan would be the GOAT in this era etc.

You're 100% right, once Giannis gets to 2 or 3 rings he'll be making Middleton > Pippen threads and how his ball dominance & lack of shooting makes him worse than Jordan.

3ba11
07-17-2021, 05:43 PM
That's what makes him such a fakkit, it's a literal non stop agenda. Let's be real, he doesn't give a FCK about CP3 :oldlol: He's just using him to push his anti LeBron/Magic agenda. And he flip flops like a bitch constantly, just a couple days ago CP3 was the "mid range king" or some bullshit, which of course proved Jordan would be the GOAT in this era etc.

You're 100% right, once Giannis gets to 2 or 3 rings he'll be making Middleton > Pippen threads and how his ball dominance & lack of shooting makes him worse than Jordan.


CP3 stopped being the mid-range king and started playing poorly, because that's what always happens to him - his ball-dominance gets figured out - he's lost a ton of series when ahead

And again, I'll give credit to Giannis for learning to win (organic), which makes him superior to KD or Lebron, who only learned to team-hop.. I think that's pretty good props to give Giannis.

But sure, what he's doing doesn't compare to Jordan because Giannis has an equal-scoring partner - only Jordan won a bunch of chips while dominating the scoring distribution (6 carry-jobs)

SouBeachTalents
07-17-2021, 05:48 PM
CP3 stopped being the mid-range king and started playing poorly, because that's what always happens to him - his ball-dominance gets figured out - he's lost a ton of series when ahead

Again, I'll give credit to Giannis for learning to win (organic), which makes him superior to KD or Lebron, who only learned to team-hop.. I think that's pretty good props to give Giannis.

But sure, what he's doing doesn't compare to Jordan because Giannis has an equal-scoring partner - only Jordan won a bunch of chips while dominating the scoring distribution (6 carry-jobs)
Gun to your head and you were forced to pick one for a playoff run, there's no chance in hell you're picking Giannis over a prime LeBron or Durant, why even front :lol

And I guess you'll just pretend literally every team in the playoffs having a significant injury played no role in the Bucks winning the title this year either huh

3ba11
07-17-2021, 05:57 PM
Gun to your head and you were forced to pick one for a playoff run, there's no chance in hell you're picking Giannis over a prime LeBron or Durant, why even front :lol

And I guess you'll just pretend literally every team in the playoffs having a significant injury played no role in the Bucks winning the title this year either huh


Lebron and Durant were playoff disappointers for many years until they formed super-teams - they were literally 1-trick ponies with a reputation for playoff failure before teaming up.. So why wouldn't I pick Giannis over career losers like KD and Lebron?... You're giving credit for super-team rings, which is the definition of dumb.. Why do you think super-team rings are impressive? I don't understand.

Btw, Giannis isn't as good now as he will be after winning these next two games - he needs to come full circle and actually win.. Once he wins, then he'll be capable of leading teams to titles in this era better than KD or Lebron, who need to team-hop and form super-teams..

When a player figures out how to win (organic), their team has a chance to be a juggernaut for years to come - so Giannis provides better championship expectation than KD or Lebron, who employ a weaker brand of ball (team-hopping) that has lower team ceiling and long-run expectation

1987_Lakers
07-17-2021, 06:24 PM
The moment OP makes this thread Giannis is ruled out. Lol

And1AllDay
07-17-2021, 06:26 PM
finish off this career ball-dominating loser.. end CP3's misery

end this ball-dominator's career the same way all ball-dominators finish their careers - LOSERS WITH NO RINGS (unless they demanded to play with Kareem or formed super-teams)

3baLLLLL is the biggest troll i knew you were a lebran fan!

https://i.postimg.cc/yYJzCdVd/3ba-LLLLLLLL-flip-floppin-haha.png

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?495516-Unathletic-mid-range-could-win-title-so-what-would-the-goat-athlete-amp-mid-range-do/page5

1987_Lakers
07-17-2021, 06:27 PM
3baLLLLL is the biggest troll i knew you were a lebran fan!

https://i.postimg.cc/yYJzCdVd/3ba-LLLLLLLL-flip-floppin-haha.png

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?495516-Unathletic-mid-range-could-win-title-so-what-would-the-goat-athlete-amp-mid-range-do/page5

:oldlol:

And1AllDay
07-17-2021, 06:30 PM
3baLLLLL is the biggest troll i knew you were a lebran fan!

https://i.postimg.cc/yYJzCdVd/3ba-LLLLLLLL-flip-floppin-haha.png

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?495516-Unathletic-mid-range-could-win-title-so-what-would-the-goat-athlete-amp-mid-range-do/page5

:oldlol: got his azzzzzzz 3baLLLLLLLLLLLLl down bad :oldlol:

3ba11
07-17-2021, 06:37 PM
:oldlol: got his azzzzzzz 3baLLLLLLLLLLLLl down bad :oldlol:


this thread and that one aren't contradictory

nice try though.

And1AllDay
07-17-2021, 06:38 PM
this thread and that one aren't contradictory

nice try though.

this thread and that one are contradictory

nice try though

:dancin

3ba11
07-17-2021, 06:40 PM
this thread and that one are contradictory

nice try though

:dancin


Mid-range is more effective than ever but CP3 is still a ball-dominant bum that can't win the big one.

I see no problems

paksat
07-17-2021, 06:57 PM
Jordan gave the same message to the mob in 1993

I giggled hard, top giggle

SouBeachTalents
07-17-2021, 07:00 PM
You could fill a book with OP's wrong predictions and flip flops. Just from last month alone

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?483954-Richard-Jefferson-said-Giannis-is-a-Pippen&p=14368791&viewfull=1#post14368791

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?494671-Pippen-lacks-the-breakdown-ability-off-the-dribble-required-to-be-perimeter-star-now&p=14361098&viewfull=1#post14361098

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?494665-Prediction-Bucks-will-blowout-the-Nets-in-game-6-amp-7&p=14359745&viewfull=1#post14359745

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?494563-Durant-is-easily-the-best-player-in-the-world&p=14356973&viewfull=1#post14356973

kuniva_dAMiGhTy
07-17-2021, 07:03 PM
Exactly what posters told me while I ran 'Trada' off the forum.

ArbitraryWater
07-17-2021, 07:12 PM
You could fill a book with OP's wrong predictions and flip flops. Just from last month alone

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?483954-Richard-Jefferson-said-Giannis-is-a-Pippen&p=14368791&viewfull=1#post14368791

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?494671-Pippen-lacks-the-breakdown-ability-off-the-dribble-required-to-be-perimeter-star-now&p=14361098&viewfull=1#post14361098

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?494665-Prediction-Bucks-will-blowout-the-Nets-in-game-6-amp-7&p=14359745&viewfull=1#post14359745

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?494563-Durant-is-easily-the-best-player-in-the-world&p=14356973&viewfull=1#post14356973

lol

3ba11
07-17-2021, 07:12 PM
You could fill a book with OP's wrong predictions and flip flops. Just from last month alone

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?483954-Richard-Jefferson-said-Giannis-is-a-Pippen&p=14368791&viewfull=1#post14368791

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?494671-Pippen-lacks-the-breakdown-ability-off-the-dribble-required-to-be-perimeter-star-now&p=14361098&viewfull=1#post14361098

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?494665-Prediction-Bucks-will-blowout-the-Nets-in-game-6-amp-7&p=14359745&viewfull=1#post14359745

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?494563-Durant-is-easily-the-best-player-in-the-world&p=14356973&viewfull=1#post14356973


^^^ perfectly consistent

My threads routinely say that everyone in history is a "pippen" because everyone needed a teammate to lead in scoring for entire playoff runs

So Giannis a bummy pippen just like everyone else in history - it isn't a big knock because there's only 1 non-pippen, aka GOAT

kuniva_dAMiGhTy
07-17-2021, 07:16 PM
^^^ perfectly consistent

My threads routinely say that everyone in history is a "pippen" because everyone needed a teammate to lead in scoring for entire playoff runs

So Giannis a bummy pippen just like everyone else in history - it isn't a big knock because there's only 1 non-pippen, aka GOAT

Yo Trada

If Phoenix does win, wouldn't Paul still be ball dominant?

He's probably hitting his midrange too, but an 'inferior brand' is still inferior. :lol

3ba11
07-17-2021, 07:18 PM
Yo Trada

If Phoenix does win, wouldn't Paul still be ball dominant?

He's probably hitting his midrange too, but an 'inferior brand' is still inferior. :lol


It's "okay" to be ball-dominant if you aren't the best player or highest ranked player on your team.. Booker is FMVP and clearly the best player if the Suns win

How do you think Magic won all those titles? It's because he wasn't the highest ranked player ln his own team..

SouBeachTalents
07-17-2021, 07:20 PM
It's okay to be ball-dominant if you aren't the best player or highest ranked player on your team.. Booker is FMVP and clearly the best player if the Suns win

How do you think Magic won all those titles? It's because he wasn't the highest ranked player ln his own team..
Huh, you think Booker is ranked higher than CP3 :lol Or do you actually believe Kareem was better than Magic in the late 80's

hold this L
07-17-2021, 07:22 PM
The moment OP makes this thread Giannis is ruled out. Lol

What??

3ba11
07-17-2021, 07:22 PM
Huh, you think Booker is ranked higher than CP3 :lol Or do you actually believe Kareem was better than Magic in the late 80's


Ball-dominators mostly lose regardless of who is on their team.

High APG almost never wins - it's a losing style and skillset - playground ball that turns everyone into spot-up shooter and gets destroyed

kuniva_dAMiGhTy
07-17-2021, 07:26 PM
It's okay to be ball-dominant if you aren't the best player on your team.. Booker is FMVP and clearly the best player if the Suns win

You're taking away from the better option. How would that be okay?


How do you think Magic won all those titles? It's because he wasn't the highest ranked player ln his own team..

https://media1.tenor.com/images/963fbc499340e4ccee7131bd230127c3/tenor.gif?itemid=16058096

3ba11
07-17-2021, 07:27 PM
What??


that poster was momentarily fooled by another thread that showed Giannis' brother out with health protocol, and a lot of people initially thought it was Giannis, including me. I was salty for a second or two until I saw it was his brother

3ba11
07-17-2021, 07:28 PM
You're taking away from the better option. How would that be okay?



https://media1.tenor.com/images/963fbc499340e4ccee7131bd230127c3/tenor.gif?itemid=16058096


Prime Magic couldn't win without Kareem - got obliterated infact

Ball-dominators need abnormal help, like super-teams or being the inferior player, and they still mostly lose

SouBeachTalents
07-17-2021, 07:30 PM
Prime Magic couldn't win without Kareem - got obliterated infact
Prime Jordan couldn't win without Pippen - got obliterated infact

3ba11
07-17-2021, 07:34 PM
Prime Jordan couldn't win without Pippen - got obliterated infact


Jordan was 6/6 and had juggernauts with underwhelming supporting talent because he didn't dominate the ball

If he was a simple ball-dominator like Magic, Lebron, or every playground king in history, his teams would make a bunch of Finals but lose their ass - MJ would need a 3rd star or a superior-producing big man to win any Finals, and he'd still mostly lose like Magic or Lebron

history shows us what would happen if MJ was a ball-dominator - he'd mostly lose regardless of cast like every other ball-dominator in history.

SouBeachTalents
07-17-2021, 07:37 PM
Jordan was 6/6 and had juggernauts with weak supporting talent because he didn't dominate the ball

If he was a simple ball-dominator like Magic, Lebron, or every playground king in history, his teams would make a bunch of Finals but lose their ass - MJ would need a 3rd star or a big man to outproduce him like Magic and Lebron to win most of his Finals

history shows us what would happen if MJ was a ball-dominator - he'd mostly lose regardless of cast like every other ball-dominator in history.

never played without Pippen, but we can only assume he would've won with any 16 ppg sidekick and a top 10 defense.
He played 5 seasons without Pippen, never even had a winning record

3ba11
07-17-2021, 07:39 PM
He played 5 seasons without Pippen, never even had a winning record


Nearly everyone that was drafted to a weak team doesn't win any playoff series in their first few years, including Durant, Lebron, Giannis or Curry

So who cares what young MJ did, or 40-year MJ - the fact that you use this to make your case proves that you have none

Ultimately, MJ was 6/6 because he didn't dominate the ball - history shows us what would happen if MJ was a ball-dominator - he'd mostly lose regardless of cast like every other ball-dominator in history.

If he was a simple ball-dominator like Magic, Lebron, or every playground king in history, his teams would make a bunch of Finals but lose their ass - MJ would need a 3rd star or a superior-producing big man to win any Finals, and he'd still mostly lose like Magic or Lebron

kuniva_dAMiGhTy
07-17-2021, 07:47 PM
He played 5 seasons without Pippen, never even had a winning record

And Magic played, what, 2 years without Kareem? Somehow ... SOMEWAY ... that works out. :lol

Trada's gonna keep bullshitting in every reply. Fun watching him squirm though.

SouBeachTalents
07-17-2021, 07:51 PM
And Magic played, what, 2 years without Kareem? Somehow ... SOMEWAY ... that works out. :lol

Bullshitting in every reply just to save face. Fun watching him squirm though.
And in those 2 seasons, he led the Lakers to 63 wins, then 58 and the Finals. Not sure he wants to go the "never won without" card when backing Jordan :lol esp in regards to Magic

3ba11
07-17-2021, 07:53 PM
And in those 2 seasons, he led the Lakers to 63 wins, then 58 and the Finals. Not sure he wants to go the "never won without" card when backing Jordan :lol esp in regards to Magic


Magic had Worthy, Scott, Green, Vlade, Perkins, Campbell...

It's not even worth replying because your arguments are so dumb

Jordan ragdolled Magic even though Magic had 3 teammates produce like Pippen in those Finals

Accept the facts - ball-dominators mostly lose regardless of cast... Magic and Lebron needed far more help than Jordan to win because they're vastly inferior and dominate the ball.. and they have no jumpshot..

Magic was 5-4 with Kareem - that's nothing compared to Jordan... Jordan would've been 13/13, and you know that

RRR3
07-17-2021, 07:53 PM
What you guys are doing to 3ball in this thread almost strikes me as abuse.

3ba11
07-17-2021, 07:55 PM
What you guys are doing to 3ball in this thread almost strikes me as abuse.


I'm destroying these guys - and now you enter the thread to get some of the beatdown.. smh.

It must suck to see everything I say come to fruition

kuniva_dAMiGhTy
07-17-2021, 08:01 PM
Magic had Worthy, Scott, Green, Vlade, Perkins, Campbell...

It's not even worthy replying the arguments are so dumb

Then why claim Magic got 'obliterated'? He played 2 years without Kareem and made a finals.

:yaohappy:

Any time you wanna admit your argument sucks. No pressure.

paksat
07-17-2021, 08:03 PM
Lol @ 3ball pissing on lebronze trolls in here

RRR3
07-17-2021, 08:04 PM
I'm destroying these guys - and now you enter the thread to get some of the beatdown.. smh.

It must suck to see everything I say come to fruition
You literally get destroyed in every thread you make. You could easily avoid it too if you stopped contradicting yourself and saying ridiculously over the top stuff. But I guess that’s too hard for you.

3ba11
07-17-2021, 08:06 PM
Then why claim Magic got 'obliterated'? He played 2 years without Kareem and made a finals.

:yaohappy:

Any time you wanna admit your argument is trash. No pressure.


Magic was obliterated without Kareem in 1990 - he was like pre-decision Lebron by losing as the massive favorite to Dwight, I mean KJ

And Magic had a 5-time champion veteran team that you're comparing to rookie Jordan's lottery casts, yet I'm the one with bad arguments?

You guys are scrambling with garbage arguments because you can't refute the facts - ball-dominators mostly lose and need exorbitant help to win like a 3rd star scorer (super-team) or a big man to out-produce them (AD, Kareem or Worthy) - and they STILL mostly lose

And1AllDay
07-17-2021, 08:10 PM
You could fill a book with OP's wrong predictions and flip flops. Just from last month alone

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?483954-Richard-Jefferson-said-Giannis-is-a-Pippen&p=14368791&viewfull=1#post14368791

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?494671-Pippen-lacks-the-breakdown-ability-off-the-dribble-required-to-be-perimeter-star-now&p=14361098&viewfull=1#post14361098

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?494665-Prediction-Bucks-will-blowout-the-Nets-in-game-6-amp-7&p=14359745&viewfull=1#post14359745

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?494563-Durant-is-easily-the-best-player-in-the-world&p=14356973&viewfull=1#post14356973

this cat needs to change his name to 3blunder :oldlol: 3blunderball never gets sh1t right :oldlol:
'
and i still think hes a ellaborate bran fan

hes the dumbest smart troll i know

he thinks he is v smart but he is as little smart

but his arguments are so bad and his mind is so rattled that hes actually a retart :oldlol:

amazing display of efforts 3blunder

kuniva_dAMiGhTy
07-17-2021, 08:11 PM
Magic was obliterated without Kareem in 1990 - he was like pre-decision Lebron by losing as the massive favorite to Dwight, I mean KJ

And Magic had a 5-time champion veteran team that you're comparing to rookie Jordan's lottery casts, but I'm the one with bad arguments?

You guys are scrambling with garbage arguments because you can't refute the facts - ball-dominators mostly lose and need exorbitant help to win like a 3rd star scorer (super-team) or a big to out-produce them (AD or Kareem or Worthy)

https://i.postimg.cc/L8y4PCLW/ezgif-3-cf292e920ead.gif

Without Kareem, Magic won a FMVP. Keep tap dancing.

SouBeachTalents
07-17-2021, 08:12 PM
https://i.postimg.cc/L8y4PCLW/ezgif-3-cf292e920ead.gif

Without Kareem, Magic won a FMVP.
That's a good point, Magic won as many playoff games without Kareem in his first try than Jordan did in FIVE seasons without Pippen

3ba11
07-17-2021, 08:15 PM
this cat needs to change his name to 3blunder :oldlol: 3blunderball never gets sh1t right :oldlol:
'
and i still think hes a ellaborate bran fan


I beat SouBeach on that one already by showing that my threads say everyone in history is a Pippen because everyone needed a teammate to lead in scoring for entire playoff runs

So Giannis a bummy pippen just like everyone else in history - it isn't a big knock because there's only 1 non-pippen, aka GOAT

So SouBeach was already proven wrong on that one.... But carry on.. I'm having fun running roughshod

And1AllDay
07-17-2021, 08:15 PM
That's a good point, Magic won as many playoff games without Kareem in his first try than Jordan did in FIVE seasons without Pippen

https://i.postimg.cc/0Q6YQT1B/tenor.gifhttps://i.postimg.cc/0Q6YQT1B/tenor.gif

3ba11
07-17-2021, 08:15 PM
https://i.postimg.cc/L8y4PCLW/ezgif-3-cf292e920ead.gif

Without Kareem, Magic won a FMVP. Keep tap dancing.


When was that

kuniva_dAMiGhTy
07-17-2021, 08:16 PM
That's a good point, Magic won as many playoff games without Kareem in his first try than Jordan did in FIVE seasons without Pippen

https://media.giphy.com/media/l0ErLeqamV3UOARsA/giphy.gif


When was that

Someone wanna handle my lightweight? :oldlol:

And1AllDay
07-17-2021, 08:16 PM
I beat SouBeach on that one already by showing that my threads say everyone in history is a Pippen because everyone needed a teammate to lead in scoring for entire playoff runs

So Giannis a bummy pippen just like everyone else in history - it isn't a big knock because there's only 1 non-pippen, aka GOAT

So SouBeach was already proven wrong on that one.... But carry on.. I'm having fun running roughshod

:oldlol:

these are your rings

https://i.postimg.cc/YCVsFVFY/Mike_defense.jpg

https://i.postimg.cc/1RJhTjWT/49072b9bfbd69aceb5df99f94f79c2c9.gif

3ba11
07-17-2021, 08:18 PM
https://i.postimg.cc/0Q6YQT1B/tenor.gifhttps://i.postimg.cc/0Q6YQT1B/tenor.gif


https://i.makeagif.com/media/6-11-2021/tCRKqL.gif


You don't get to throw in the towel against 3ball... no mercy.. just like Jrue tonight against a bummy ball-dominator

And1AllDay
07-17-2021, 08:19 PM
Message to SouBeach: FINISH HIM.. NO MERCY

3ba11
07-17-2021, 08:21 PM
Message to SouBeach: FINISH HIM.. NO MERCY


Lol.. you must not know SouBeach.. he's on his bike.

8Ball
07-17-2021, 08:46 PM
3baLLLLL is the biggest troll i knew you were a lebran fan!

https://i.postimg.cc/yYJzCdVd/3ba-LLLLLLLL-flip-floppin-haha.png

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?495516-Unathletic-mid-range-could-win-title-so-what-would-the-goat-athlete-amp-mid-range-do/page5

Lol.

One day he is a cp3 goat offensive player fan.

Another day cp3 is a fraud

HBK_Kliq_2
07-17-2021, 08:59 PM
I hope so. He has shot the team out of the game in 3/4 games so far.

But he doesn't flop like Paul or act like a piece of shit like Paul. So I will be cheering for him

1987_Lakers
07-17-2021, 09:16 PM
What??

Its a joke, his brother is ruled out.

DevBooker'sMask
07-17-2021, 09:42 PM
What's going on

Hey Yo
07-17-2021, 10:58 PM
Replace Stockton and Hornacek with Middleton and Holiday?

Malone with B2B FMVP

StrongLurk
07-17-2021, 11:11 PM
OP with more mentally ill politics, I'm sure everyone is shocked.

Also OP conveniently ignores all the injuries to the Suns and Bucks opponents in these playoffs.

AD, Kawhi, Kyrie, Harden all missed games or were seriously hampered while playing.

3ba11
07-17-2021, 11:54 PM
https://media1.tenor.com/images/f539256737a207bb2a513474c6c3a089/tenor.gif

1987_Lakers
07-17-2021, 11:57 PM
.
Ball-dominant, non-shooters like Giannis, Westbrook and Lebron don't have the touch to make this shot from this awkward distance and spot:


https://i.makeagif.com/media/5-25-2019/USGXmS.gif


Also, this shot doesn't use enough dribbling for lebron to execute.. And too much instinct/skill/footwork is required to know which direction to turn for the open shot

Sub-par midrange and 3-point shooters like Westbrook/Giannis/Lebron yield weaker teams than goat 3-point or midrange shooters Curry/MJ- the latter's shooting ability allowed them to play off teammates/off-ball, which facilitates ball movement and better brand of ball/teams..
.

https://media1.tenor.com/images/f539256737a207bb2a513474c6c3a089/tenor.gif

ELITEpower23
07-17-2021, 11:58 PM
OP flip-flopping again?

https://i.postimg.cc/yYJzCdVd/3ba-LLLLLLLL-flip-floppin-haha.png

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?495516-Unathletic-mid-range-could-win-title-so-what-would-the-goat-athlete-amp-mid-range-do/page5[/QUOTE]

1987_Lakers
07-18-2021, 12:01 AM
OP flip-flopping again?

https://i.postimg.cc/yYJzCdVd/3ba-LLLLLLLL-flip-floppin-haha.png

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?495516-Unathletic-mid-range-could-win-title-so-what-would-the-goat-athlete-amp-mid-range-do/page5[/QUOTE]

Dude putting politicians to shame.

Fact is he really wanted Durant to win the title this year, but Giannis (who is a member of the Bron fam) put a stop to that.

3ba11
07-18-2021, 12:01 AM
OP flip-flopping again?

https://i.postimg.cc/yYJzCdVd/3ba-LLLLLLLL-flip-floppin-haha.png

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?495516-Unathletic-mid-range-could-win-title-so-what-would-the-goat-athlete-amp-mid-range-do/page5


It was already explained that the best mid-range wins and Middleton's is better right now

ELITEpower23
07-18-2021, 12:02 AM
Dude putting politicians to shame.

Fact is he really wanted Durant to win the title this year, but Giannis (who is a member of the Bron fam) put a stop to that.

100% He wanted KD to win this year. Then he wanted Chris Paul to win :lol Now he has to settle for a prototype LeBron (Giannis) to win which has to hurt him deep down :lol What a cuck

ShawkFactory
07-18-2021, 12:03 AM
It was already explained that the best mid-range wins and Middleton's is better right now

Well the entire team shot 60% from the field and like 58 from 3.

Holiday was the player of the game

1987_Lakers
07-18-2021, 12:04 AM
It was already explained that the best mid-range wins and Middleton's is better right now

The same Middleton who you said was worse than Jamison?

1987_Lakers
07-18-2021, 12:04 AM
100% He wanted KD to win this year. Then he wanted Chris Paul to win :lol Now he has to settle for a prototype LeBron (Giannis) to win which has to hurt him deep down :lol What a cuck

:oldlol:

3ba11
07-18-2021, 12:06 AM
The same Middleton who you said was worse than Jamison?


that's fair - jamison, middleton, Ingram, Hughes - they're all just "pippen's"

but actually Middleton is proving everyone wrong including me - he's far superior to Pippen... MJ/Middleton win the chip every year including 95'... MJ with actual scoring help would be unreal - he's the only guy that never had any compared to what everyone else gets

SouBeachTalents
07-18-2021, 12:10 AM
that's fair - jamison, middleton, Ingram, Hughes - they're all just "pippen's"

but actually Middleton is proving everyone wrong including me - he's far superior to Pippen... MJ/Middleton win the chip every year including 95'... MJ with actual scoring help would be unreal - he's the only guy that never had any compared to what everyone else gets
MJ got all the scoring help, his 2nd option outscored the opponents 2nd option in 19 of 24 series during their title years. Hell he had Pippen AND Kukoc outscoring the Jazz's 2nd option by nearly 5 ppg in '98 :oldlol:

3ba11
07-18-2021, 12:58 AM
MJ got all the scoring help, his 2nd option outscored the opponents 2nd option in 19 of 24 series during their title years. Hell he had Pippen AND Kukoc outscoring the Jazz's 2nd option in '98 :oldlol:


But his efficiency was worse for nearly 24 of 24 series:


96' Pippen ECSF.... 15 on 33%
96' Oakley ECSF.... 13 on 55%


^^^ So he was outplayed in the majority of series during the championship runs - his weak scoring plus worst-ever efficiency makes him the worst-scoring sidekick ever among winning sidekicks.

Furthermore, his horrific play cost the Bulls titles from 88-90' and 95'.. There's no excuse for not winning 10 titles with Jordan from 88-98' minus the retirements.

3ba11
07-18-2021, 01:25 AM
thread title aged beautifully

That's 3/3 on predictions between this thread and the other thread that predicted the Bucks winning games 5/6 and Cade not being anywhere near Luka...

That's a 3-peat folks...

RRR3
07-18-2021, 01:26 AM
3/3 on predictions between this thread and the other thread that predicted the Bucks winning games 5/6 and Cade not being anywhere near Luka...

That's a 3-peat folks
Not sure how you’re 3/3 when game 6 hasn’t happened and Cade hasn’t even been drafted.

3ba11
07-18-2021, 01:27 AM
Not sure how you’re 3/3 when game 6 hasn’t happened and Cade hasn’t even been drafted.


with the pippen and ingram stances proven correct and this thread title aging beautifully, you should expect everything to come true.. heck, everyone thought IT/Lebron would work - except 3ball

only the oubre/klay prediction was wrong, and that was basically a joke anyway

ELITEpower23
07-18-2021, 01:31 AM
with the pippen and ingram stances proven correct and this thread title aging beautifully, you should expect everything to come true.. heck, everyone thought IT/Lebron would work - except 3ball

only the oubre/klay prediction was wrong, and that was basically a joke anyway

Bird fed

RRR3
07-18-2021, 01:31 AM
with the pippen and ingram stances proven correct and this thread title aging beautifully, you should expect everything to come true.. heck, everyone thought IT/Lebron would work - except 3ball

only the oubre/klay prediction was wrong, and that was basically a joke anyway
You’re consistently wrong about Pippen. Ingram was a number 2 overall pick it’s hardly impressive that you predicted him improving as he got older. As for LeBron and IT most people didn’t expect IT to be completely destroyed by his injury. Note he’s been horrible ever since then and can’t even stay in the league now. Has nothing to do with LeBron.

ELITEpower23
07-18-2021, 01:42 AM
You’re consistently wrong about Pippen. Ingram was a number 2 overall pick it’s hardly impressive that you predicted him improving as he got older. As for LeBron and IT most people didn’t expect IT to be completely destroyed by his injury. Note he’s been horrible ever since then and can’t even stay in the league now. Has nothing to do with LeBron.

Ingram didn't even get better , he is still empty stats. Couldn't even make the 10th seed with Zion. Terrible player.

RRR3
07-18-2021, 01:44 AM
Ingram didn't even get better , he is still empty stats. Couldn't even make the 10th seed with Zion. Terrible player.
He absolutely got better he was a legitimately bad player his first 3 seasons, mainly cuz his jumper was ass. Now that he’s got a great jumper he’s pretty good. He’s nowhere near as good as 3ball claims of course but he’s a useful player and I can tell you for a fact LeBron wishes he kept him instead of Kuzma lol

tpols
07-18-2021, 01:48 AM
I said it in the game thread. No way Chris Paul doesn't get locked up by Jrue after he sucked vs LA, and sucked vs the Clippers outside 1 game when the suns were up. Jrue goes off when the bucks needed him most. He also did it vs the Nets in game 7 in crunchtime. Sucked all game but dominated clutch time all of a sudden.

Koresh
07-18-2021, 11:14 AM
Magic had Worthy, Scott, Green, Vlade, Perkins, Campbell...

It's not even worth replying because your arguments are so dumb

Jordan ragdolled Magic even though Magic had 3 teammates produce like Pippen in those Finals

Accept the facts - ball-dominators mostly lose regardless of cast... Magic and Lebron needed far more help than Jordan to win because they're vastly inferior and dominate the ball.. and they have no jumpshot..

Magic was 5-4 with Kareem - that's nothing compared to Jordan... Jordan would've been 13/13, and you know that

Shut the **** up. Jordan wanted to QUIT after his first TITLE in 1991. After winning three in a row in 1993, even without his father's murder, he said he needed another chalenge. So much for that competitive spirit and all that bullshit. Retired in 1998 because he couldn't have Phil Jackson as his coach, not because he couldn't play anymore. Idiots thinking the Bulls would have won 8 in a row are as delusional as you are.

This lionizing of Jordan has to stop. He has become a mythical creature that can do no wrong. He's 6/6!! OMFGLOLZ! No, he's 6/15. He didn't play 6 seasons. Jordan dickriders like to ignore the first half of his career like he just started winning from the get-go. He came back from retirement in 1995 and lost to the Magic and everyone in the world gave this man excuses, but now no one even remembers that shit because he just won 3 more in a row. He won 3, retirement, came back, won 3 and retired.

Jordan's career wasn't perfect. All all-time greats have blemishes on their resume. Jordan playing with Pippen is an insult like Pippen helping him win those titles is a bad thing. Basketball is a team sport the last time I checked. It's hilarious how this asshole keeps saying ball-dominators don't win, but the same guy who loves looking at numbers can't find Jordan's USG% which is on par with Westbrook, so yes, he did dominate the ball. He didn't win until he got better support just like every other all-time great.

3ball is a clown and always will be a clown. Bozo and Pennywise have nothing on this cocksmith. You are an embarrassment. How dare you prop up Jordan's teammate! Pippen wasn't shit! Jordan did it all himself! 1 vs 5. Basketball is a team sport, dumb-ass. Jordan had amazing teams. Imagine him not having the talent on his team that Krause signed, he wouldn't have won shit or he would have won somewhere else.

MadDog
07-18-2021, 11:18 AM
Holiday is a throwback. Physical defender and one of the few guards who actually impacts that end. He shut down Sister Paul. And when tasked onto Book, Jrue slowed his scoring to a crawl.

ralph_i_el
07-18-2021, 11:26 AM
WOW. The story with Jrue has always been "When he's aggressive..." but it is just such a sight to see when he is. Hell of a game by Holiday.

One thing I really liked about the Bucks last night was how tight Middleton got with Giannis coming around Giannis' screens. His economy of movement is so great, and it has to be with his relatively weak footspeed and vert. Middleton is fast becoming one of those guys (like Steve Nash) that you point to as a model for less athletic players to emulate.

j3lademaster
07-18-2021, 11:31 AM
Holiday is a throwback. Physical defender and one of the few guards who actually impacts that end. He shut down Sister Paul. And when tasked onto Book, Jrue slowed his scoring to a crawl.Yup. He even plays bully-ball in the post.

ImKobe
07-18-2021, 12:18 PM
Jordan gave the same message to the mob in 1993

mods..

000
07-18-2021, 01:51 PM
Shut the **** up. Jordan wanted to QUIT after his first TITLE in 1991. After winning three in a row in 1993, even without his father's murder, he said he needed another chalenge. So much for that competitive spirit and all that bullshit. Retired in 1998 because he couldn't have Phil Jackson as his coach, not because he couldn't play anymore. Idiots thinking the Bulls would have won 8 in a row are as delusional as you are.

This lionizing of Jordan has to stop. He has become a mythical creature that can do no wrong. He's 6/6!! OMFGLOLZ! No, he's 6/15. He didn't play 6 seasons. Jordan dickriders like to ignore the first half of his career like he just started winning from the get-go. He came back from retirement in 1995 and lost to the Magic and everyone in the world gave this man excuses, but now no one even remembers that shit because he just won 3 more in a row. He won 3, retirement, came back, won 3 and retired.

Jordan's career wasn't perfect. All all-time greats have blemishes on their resume. Jordan playing with Pippen is an insult like Pippen helping him win those titles is a bad thing. Basketball is a team sport the last time I checked. It's hilarious how this asshole keeps saying ball-dominators don't win, but the same guy who loves looking at numbers can't find Jordan's USG% which is on par with Westbrook, so yes, he did dominate the ball. He didn't win until he got better support just like every other all-time great.

3ball is a clown and always will be a clown. Bozo and Pennywise have nothing on this cocksmith. You are an embarrassment. How dare you prop up Jordan's teammate! Pippen wasn't shit! Jordan did it all himself! 1 vs 5. Basketball is a team sport, dumb-ass. Jordan had amazing teams. Imagine him not having the talent on his team that Krause signed, he wouldn't have won shit or he would have won somewhere else.
What a meltdown LOL

Koresh
07-18-2021, 04:25 PM
What a meltdown LOL

How about you refute what I said instead of laughing like a little sissy?

1000+ posts in a month and I am melting down? You're like Chronos in Space Jam: A New Legacy. You have way too much time.

dreamshake
07-18-2021, 04:51 PM
Lebron and Durant were playoff disappointers for many years until they formed super-teams - they were literally 1-trick ponies with a reputation for playoff failure before teaming up.. So why wouldn't I pick Giannis over career losers like KD and Lebron?... You're giving credit for super-team rings, which is the definition of dumb.. Why do you think super-team rings are impressive? I don't understand.

Btw, Giannis isn't as good now as he will be after winning these next two games - he needs to come full circle and actually win.. Once he wins, then he'll be capable of leading teams to titles in this era better than KD or Lebron, who need to team-hop and form super-teams..

When a player figures out how to win (organic), their team has a chance to be a juggernaut for years to come - so Giannis provides better championship expectation than KD or Lebron, who employ a weaker brand of ball (team-hopping) that has lower team ceiling and long-run expectation

Great point. Superteams deserve no credit for any championships.

8Ball
07-18-2021, 05:05 PM
Shut the **** up. Jordan wanted to QUIT after his first TITLE in 1991. After winning three in a row in 1993, even without his father's murder, he said he needed another chalenge. So much for that competitive spirit and all that bullshit. Retired in 1998 because he couldn't have Phil Jackson as his coach, not because he couldn't play anymore. Idiots thinking the Bulls would have won 8 in a row are as delusional as you are.

This lionizing of Jordan has to stop. He has become a mythical creature that can do no wrong. He's 6/6!! OMFGLOLZ! No, he's 6/15. He didn't play 6 seasons. Jordan dickriders like to ignore the first half of his career like he just started winning from the get-go. He came back from retirement in 1995 and lost to the Magic and everyone in the world gave this man excuses, but now no one even remembers that shit because he just won 3 more in a row. He won 3, retirement, came back, won 3 and retired.

Jordan's career wasn't perfect. All all-time greats have blemishes on their resume. Jordan playing with Pippen is an insult like Pippen helping him win those titles is a bad thing. Basketball is a team sport the last time I checked. It's hilarious how this asshole keeps saying ball-dominators don't win, but the same guy who loves looking at numbers can't find Jordan's USG% which is on par with Westbrook, so yes, he did dominate the ball. He didn't win until he got better support just like every other all-time great.

3ball is a clown and always will be a clown. Bozo and Pennywise have nothing on this cocksmith. You are an embarrassment. How dare you prop up Jordan's teammate! Pippen wasn't shit! Jordan did it all himself! 1 vs 5. Basketball is a team sport, dumb-ass. Jordan had amazing teams. Imagine him not having the talent on his team that Krause signed, he wouldn't have won shit or he would have won somewhere else.

:applause:


You need to post more. This was one of the greatest posts in insidehoops history. Every sentence. Every paragraph.

Oh dear, more truth in this post than everything 3ball ever wrote in all the message forums put together.

3ba11
07-18-2021, 08:03 PM
You’re consistently wrong about Pippen. Ingram was a number 2 overall pick it’s hardly impressive that you predicted him improving as he got older. As for LeBron and IT most people didn’t expect IT to be completely destroyed by his injury. Note he’s been horrible ever since then and can’t even stay in the league now. Has nothing to do with LeBron.


Everything I said about Pippen is now repeated in the mainstream press (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_VTEz0j5UD0&t=421s) due to Pippen's ridiculous comments, which forced most Pippen supporters (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1S9NOdvj1QY&t=50s) to remove the "6 rings blinders" and see him for what he was - a low-maturity guy that was carried and coddled by MJ

MJ was was just happy to have anyone that could do the minimum needed to sneak over the hump - once they started winning, no one realized or cared that Pippen's production was the very bottom end of the range for what a champion needs from a 2nd option, and often below... So the Bulls barely won titles except 91'.. Every other year the closing games were super-tight and could go either way, with Pippen almost always wetting the bed severely..

And you're just lying about everything else out of shame - I don't care enough to get into it and show all the posts where everyone (in this forum and the media) said Lebron would run the table when IT got back, or that Kuzma was the prize, not Ingram.. lol.. Carry on

8Ball
07-18-2021, 08:05 PM
Great point. Superteams deserve no credit for any championships.

Ok Jordan had the only super team on the 90s.

Wipe it out then :roll:

3ba11
07-18-2021, 08:11 PM
Ok Jordan had the only super team on the 90s.

Wipe it out then :roll:


Super-teams are based on talent (having a star scorer at 3rd option), not the team record at the end of the year.. I guess Dirk's 07' Mavs were a super-team.

ClipperRevival
07-18-2021, 08:11 PM
Shut the **** up. Jordan wanted to QUIT after his first TITLE in 1991. After winning three in a row in 1993, even without his father's murder, he said he needed another chalenge. So much for that competitive spirit and all that bullshit. Retired in 1998 because he couldn't have Phil Jackson as his coach, not because he couldn't play anymore. Idiots thinking the Bulls would have won 8 in a row are as delusional as you are.

This lionizing of Jordan has to stop. He has become a mythical creature that can do no wrong. He's 6/6!! OMFGLOLZ! No, he's 6/15. He didn't play 6 seasons. Jordan dickriders like to ignore the first half of his career like he just started winning from the get-go. He came back from retirement in 1995 and lost to the Magic and everyone in the world gave this man excuses, but now no one even remembers that shit because he just won 3 more in a row. He won 3, retirement, came back, won 3 and retired.

Jordan's career wasn't perfect. All all-time greats have blemishes on their resume. Jordan playing with Pippen is an insult like Pippen helping him win those titles is a bad thing. Basketball is a team sport the last time I checked. It's hilarious how this asshole keeps saying ball-dominators don't win, but the same guy who loves looking at numbers can't find Jordan's USG% which is on par with Westbrook, so yes, he did dominate the ball. He didn't win until he got better support just like every other all-time great.

3ball is a clown and always will be a clown. Bozo and Pennywise have nothing on this cocksmith. You are an embarrassment. How dare you prop up Jordan's teammate! Pippen wasn't shit! Jordan did it all himself! 1 vs 5. Basketball is a team sport, dumb-ass. Jordan had amazing teams. Imagine him not having the talent on his team that Krause signed, he wouldn't have won shit or he would have won somewhere else.

Yikesers! https://media1.tenor.com/images/84ed599e3b630067902bef1cb9b8923f/tenor.gif?itemid=4981204

ELITEpower23
07-18-2021, 08:15 PM
What a meltdown LOL


How about you refute what I said instead of laughing like a little sissy?

1000+ posts in a month and I am melting down? You're like Chronos in Space Jam: A New Legacy. You have way too much time.

Bingo

https://i.postimg.cc/j5Q0Xsph/676767what-the-hell.png

ELITEpower23
07-18-2021, 08:15 PM
Ok Jordan had the only super team on the 90s.

Wipe it out then :roll:

Rebound Bosh, back out to 8ball. His 3 pointer... BaAaaaaNG!!

000
07-19-2021, 04:27 AM
How about you refute what I said instead of laughing like a little sissy?

1000+ posts in a month and I am melting down? You're like Chronos in Space Jam: A New Legacy. You have way too much time.
Just cuz I want to post more than you, doesnt mean you didnt just meltdown like a loser. Now keep on raging and writing giant essays to educate us all that the only guy with 2x threepeats in the modern era, is secretly a big quitter and choker, because he didnt beat the 86 celtics with a sub-.500 team. Chop chop!

And1AllDay
07-19-2021, 09:39 AM
Bingo

https://i.postimg.cc/j5Q0Xsph/676767what-the-hell.png

yiiiiiikes :oldlol::roll:

isssaaaa wrap

:dancin

RogueBorg
07-19-2021, 10:14 AM
mods..

Gotta admit, it was funny.